bring on the hard forks....
as long as the quality of the coin needs it andd the earlier the better... Look at BTC LTC they can not hardfork anymore because they would scare there users to death and tousands and thousands would be on the wrong fork with stucked wallets etc etc... So the earlier the better... We need to maintain the lead over the other ano coins by making a first class product...And build a simple mechanism in the wallet to tell people that they need to upgrade the wallet !!! ASAP this would help a lot ai am shure
Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 5507. (Read 9723733 times)
May 28, 2014, 07:51:36 AM
May 28, 2014, 07:51:01 AM
Maybe all the FUD, attacks, etc. in the last month have left me skittish -- but I wonder even in the short term what might happen to the coin if there is an organized effort to hurt DRK based around pools cheating. If Evan does go through with this then I hope I am just worrying over nothing.
If? It is a given that at least half the pools and big farms (a lot of them nowadays) won't be paying. So the 20% will be more like 10% for the masternodes, =what they were expecting anyway. But it will be a disproportionate weight to the "fair" pools.
The whole thing to appease investors with "ok guys no hard forks" and bagholders of masternodes with "ok guys you'll get 20%" is sketchy. I know I'm harsh but I like things to go right
Price is price. It'll go up, down, sideways etc. Let it be. All the price attention is having an impact in development.
Development must proceed as planned so we can have the final product, nice and polished - no matter if it takes 1-2-3 or 5 hardforks and no matter if investors are bitching that they are losing masternode income because the implementation is late. Do they want to have masternodes of a coin that is GOOD or do they want to have a masternode of a coin that is doing hack-arounds?
The masternode protocol works, the masternode payments work (we saw them - it's not vapor), it's just that there is something introducing instability which has to be debugged and sorted out. If the origin is difficult to trace, then perhaps a different mechanism can be used for doing the payments (not voluntarily)
We also need improvements in DarkSend. The competition (MRO) is integrating I2P (as we've said) and XC will be using encrypted communication between nodes (as it has been said of DRK's future plans as well).
I know this sounds like a mom's "to-do list" to the child until she gets back home, but priorities are priorities, and price or reaching litecoin immediately are not a priority. If the code is sorted out and the product delivered in final form, LTC will start rolling down. Too fast of a price rise with a half-baked product is problematic.
LTC can't compete anyway in fundamentals like inflation (10x the BTCs to absorb LTC production compared to DRK) or innovation so they will be dead anyway by debasement. #2 is a given. Preserving #2 is not due to the competition. Who is gonna buy 300k USD of LTCs per day? It'll go 0.019 -> 18 -> 17 over time. It doesn't look that "hot" of a property. Only buys will be for cost-averaging buys at 0.025+.
Having said that about the #2 competition, the anonymity competition actually looks pretty lame (BCN and clones too many issues, XC mostly vapor for now but that could change a few months ahead as they seem to have the prospects of delivering a product similar to what Evan has at like 70-80% completion). But we can't base our strategy on others failing or being pumps & dumps that are "threatening" us due to pumps => we must excel and take the market. Then bring V2 for "fatality". Otherwise the risk is there for more serious contenders appearing.
My 2 duffs.
Completely seeing eye to eye with you on this one.
I'd much rather follow the original plan (just delayed to work out bugs and test new code) and get a solid piece of software in Darksend -- than go with this new plan which seems to cater to investors (of which I am one) a bit too much.
May 28, 2014, 07:49:17 AM
I checked the trollboxes this morning. Its not something I've done for a long while.
There is a group trying to organise a Darkcoin ATH over the next few weeks. It seems to be starting with a bit of trolling.
May 28, 2014, 07:46:27 AM
More of the trolls trying to manipulate the price
Ah well none of the top wallets are responding to this, let the Trolls have their fun. Dark is the new number two. Then again no one grows without some growingpains, and never ever in one straight line to the top. Just be patient and support the dev team. Those with vision prevail, and the vision is Dark.
the top wallets have been buying more.
I still can't get over that 5k BTC buy from Nr.1 a day or so ago. I haven't sold a single DRK and been buying on the way up, but that is a whole new level of investment.
May 28, 2014, 07:43:02 AM
schools is out in europe and I think they start trolling for a few hours. Rinse their face with some stuff for their acne and go to bed
They are always the same. Just have to ignore them
May 28, 2014, 07:41:44 AM
schools is out in europe and I think they start trolling for a few hours. Rinse their face with some stuff for their acne and go to bed
May 28, 2014, 07:41:10 AM
Quote from: eduffield
As most of your are aware, there was a critical problem with the masternode payments system yesterday that caused the network to fork into many smaller networks and caused a great destabilization. This was either due to an intentional attack on the network or an issue with the masternode payments system, in either case we have a solution for masternode payments that will be safe for the network in the future.
Once we learned the exchanges were on different forks, it was too late to do a proper fork in the future so we opted to fork immediately. The network updated rather quickly and stability was restored within a few hours.
Prognosis of the network
At this time the network is healthy and has been on the same chain since the event. We’ve reached out to every pool and exchange and no funds were lost during the event.
No More Forks
Beyond this point we will not need to hard fork the network to implement the rest of DarkSend features. This is an example of why hard forks are dangerous and we want to avoid them in the future.
Masternode Payments
We’ve wanted to increase masternode payments to 20% for a few weeks now, but have not been able to since the code was already going through the testing and launch stages. This will give us an opportunity to add greater incentive to secure the network and run masternodes.
Before moving onto RC3, the next version of Darkcoin will now include the masternode payment system (with 20% payouts). The method we’re going to use for masternode payments is not critical and can’t cause a hard fork so it should be rather quick to implement, scheduled for June 14th.
Release Candidate 3
DarkSend RC3 will include a greatly improved anonymity model and support for multiple “tickets” per masternode.
After completing masternode payments, over the next few weeks I’m going to be working with the core darkcoin team to establish a full fledged development team to help with Darkcoin and DarkSend. This should allow us to move at a similar pace of development with much greater quality. The next version of DarkSend is scheduled to be released at the end of June.
Know any great developers that want to help with Darkcoin? Please have them reach out to us.
Once we learned the exchanges were on different forks, it was too late to do a proper fork in the future so we opted to fork immediately. The network updated rather quickly and stability was restored within a few hours.
Prognosis of the network
At this time the network is healthy and has been on the same chain since the event. We’ve reached out to every pool and exchange and no funds were lost during the event.
No More Forks
Beyond this point we will not need to hard fork the network to implement the rest of DarkSend features. This is an example of why hard forks are dangerous and we want to avoid them in the future.
Masternode Payments
We’ve wanted to increase masternode payments to 20% for a few weeks now, but have not been able to since the code was already going through the testing and launch stages. This will give us an opportunity to add greater incentive to secure the network and run masternodes.
Before moving onto RC3, the next version of Darkcoin will now include the masternode payment system (with 20% payouts). The method we’re going to use for masternode payments is not critical and can’t cause a hard fork so it should be rather quick to implement, scheduled for June 14th.
Release Candidate 3
DarkSend RC3 will include a greatly improved anonymity model and support for multiple “tickets” per masternode.
After completing masternode payments, over the next few weeks I’m going to be working with the core darkcoin team to establish a full fledged development team to help with Darkcoin and DarkSend. This should allow us to move at a similar pace of development with much greater quality. The next version of DarkSend is scheduled to be released at the end of June.
Know any great developers that want to help with Darkcoin? Please have them reach out to us.
May 28, 2014, 07:41:06 AM
Surely there is some way of just ignoring old/outdated/tampered with versions of whatever software the pool ops are running, to force upgrading and prevent cheats.
This is an old problem, has it not been solved over and over again?
Pool provides some checksum/whatever to masternodes/network, gets told to sod off it it isn't what it should be.
This is an old problem, has it not been solved over and over again?
Pool provides some checksum/whatever to masternodes/network, gets told to sod off it it isn't what it should be.
May 28, 2014, 07:40:54 AM
Can't we pay to the masternodes by implementing a simple PoS function - paying for exact 1000DRK (nevermind if they have 1000 or 1100 or 2100)?
May 28, 2014, 07:39:45 AM
bye bye (...)
ah, the asiacoin promoter is back! how are things going?
May 28, 2014, 07:37:04 AM
May 28, 2014, 07:36:43 AM
Maybe all the FUD, attacks, etc. in the last month have left me skittish -- but I wonder even in the short term what might happen to the coin if there is an organized effort to hurt DRK based around pools cheating. If Evan does go through with this then I hope I am just worrying over nothing.
If? It is a given that at least half the pools and big farms (a lot of them nowadays) won't be paying. So the 20% will be more like 10% for the masternodes, =what they were expecting anyway. But it will be a disproportionate weight to the "fair" pools.
The whole thing to appease investors with "ok guys no hard forks" and bagholders of masternodes with "ok guys you'll get 20%" is sketchy. I know I'm harsh but I like things to go right
Price is price. It'll go up, down, sideways etc. Let it be. All the price attention is having an impact in development.
Development must proceed as planned so we can have the final product, nice and polished - no matter if it takes 1-2-3 or 5 hardforks and no matter if investors are bitching that they are losing masternode income because the implementation is late. Do they want to have masternodes of a coin that is GOOD or do they want to have a masternode of a coin that is doing hack-arounds?
The masternode protocol works, the masternode payments work (we saw them - it's not vapor), it's just that there is something introducing instability which has to be debugged and sorted out. If the origin is difficult to trace, then perhaps a different mechanism can be used for doing the payments (not voluntarily)
We also need improvements in DarkSend. The competition (MRO) is integrating I2P (as we've said) and XC will be using encrypted communication between nodes (as it has been said of DRK's future plans as well).
I know this sounds like a mom's "to-do list" to the child until she gets back home, but priorities are priorities, and price or reaching litecoin immediately are not a priority. If the code is sorted out and the product delivered in final form, LTC will start rolling down. Too fast of a price rise with a half-baked product is problematic.
LTC can't compete anyway in fundamentals like inflation (10x the BTCs to absorb LTC production compared to DRK) or innovation so they will be dead anyway by debasement. #2 is a given. Preserving #2 is not due to the competition. Who is gonna buy 300k USD of LTCs per day? It'll go 0.019 -> 18 -> 17 over time. It doesn't look that "hot" of a property. Only buys will be for cost-averaging buys at 0.025+.
Having said that about the #2 competition, the anonymity competition actually looks pretty lame (BCN and clones too many issues, XC mostly vapor for now but that could change a few months ahead as they seem to have the prospects of delivering a product similar to what Evan has at like 70-80% completion). But we can't base our strategy on others failing or being pumps & dumps that are "threatening" us due to pumps => we must excel and take the market. Then bring V2 for "fatality". Otherwise the risk is there for more serious contenders appearing.
My 2 duffs.
I'm with you. Of course I want my MNs to start paying asap and I want the price to stay high so my kness don't shake. But I prefer to wait for the payments and fear the price if that brings a better built coin. I'm not a coder and I can only imagine the stress of Sunday/Monday mess, but if another hard fork is needed, let's have another hard fork. This time we can prepare better, communicate better and coordinate better. We can have the fucking perfect coin if we are open to some pain along the way.
May 28, 2014, 07:36:33 AM
bye bye masternodes.
hey wasn't that how the anonymity was going to happen?
oh well, how about a name change...vanilla coin...how about i'm a mediocre coder, and need wiki for basic cryptography dev who everyone thinks is our saviour but ive fucked up and dont know how to tell you i dont know how to fix it coin
hey wasn't that how the anonymity was going to happen?
oh well, how about a name change...vanilla coin...how about i'm a mediocre coder, and need wiki for basic cryptography dev who everyone thinks is our saviour but ive fucked up and dont know how to tell you i dont know how to fix it coin
What are you talking about?
Darksend actually works, just the incentive structure has been set back a little, that's more of an achievement then 99% of other coins.
Evan is a boss! Hardest working Dev i have seen in my 1 1/2 years looking at these coins.
Darkcoin will succeed, whether its in 2 weeks or 2 months, it will work!
May 28, 2014, 07:34:43 AM
Had interesting issue today. Did all the steps. Installed wallet.dat - created by my friend's Win8 machine using 9.4.11 wallet. Got incapable masternode. Checked balance - 1000 darks exists in one wallet address. He tried creating another wallet.dat using 10.8.11. Also incapable masternode. He then switched to Win7 9.4.11 wallet. Also got incapable masternode. Then I used a test wallet.dat that I created using my Win7 and 9.4.11 wallet and it WORKS! Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas?
May 28, 2014, 07:34:19 AM
So, where is this buying frenzy caused by the 20% masternode payments. Seems no one cares.
May 28, 2014, 07:30:34 AM
bye bye masternodes.
hey wasn't that how the anonymity was going to happen?
oh well, how about a name change...vanilla coin...how about i'm a mediocre coder, and need wiki for basic cryptography dev who everyone thinks is our saviour but ive fucked up and dont know how to tell you i dont know how to fix it coin
hey wasn't that how the anonymity was going to happen?
oh well, how about a name change...vanilla coin...how about i'm a mediocre coder, and need wiki for basic cryptography dev who everyone thinks is our saviour but ive fucked up and dont know how to tell you i dont know how to fix it coin
May 28, 2014, 07:28:26 AM
HELP EVAN BUILD A DEV TEAM
May 28, 2014, 07:25:49 AM
Maybe all the FUD, attacks, etc. in the last month have left me skittish -- but I wonder even in the short term what might happen to the coin if there is an organized effort to hurt DRK based around pools cheating. If Evan does go through with this then I hope I am just worrying over nothing.
If? It is a given that at least half the pools and big farms (a lot of them nowadays) won't be paying. So the 20% will be more like 10% for the masternodes, =what they were expecting anyway. But it will be a disproportionate weight to the "fair" pools.
The whole thing to appease investors with "ok guys no hard forks" and bagholders of masternodes with "ok guys you'll get 20%" is sketchy. I know I'm harsh but I like things to go right
Price is price. It'll go up, down, sideways etc. Let it be. All the price attention is having an impact in development.
Development must proceed as planned so we can have the final product, nice and polished - no matter if it takes 1-2-3 or 5 hardforks and no matter if investors are bitching that they are losing masternode income because the implementation is late. Do they want to have masternodes of a coin that is GOOD or do they want to have a masternode of a coin that is doing hack-arounds?
The masternode protocol works, the masternode payments work (we saw them - it's not vapor), it's just that there is something introducing instability which has to be debugged and sorted out. If the origin is difficult to trace, then perhaps a different mechanism can be used for doing the payments (not voluntarily)
We also need improvements in DarkSend. The competition (MRO) is integrating I2P (as we've said) and XC will be using encrypted communication between nodes (as it has been said of DRK's future plans as well).
I know this sounds like a mom's "to-do list" to the child until she gets back home, but priorities are priorities, and price or reaching litecoin immediately are not a priority. If the code is sorted out and the product delivered in final form, LTC will start rolling down. Too fast of a price rise with a half-baked product is problematic.
LTC can't compete anyway in fundamentals like inflation (10x the BTCs to absorb LTC production compared to DRK) or innovation so they will be dead anyway by debasement. #2 is a given. Preserving #2 is not due to the competition. Who is gonna buy 300k USD of LTCs per day? It'll go 0.019 -> 18 -> 17 over time. It doesn't look that "hot" of a property. Only buys will be for cost-averaging buys at 0.025+.
Having said that about the #2 competition, the anonymity competition actually looks pretty lame (BCN and clones too many issues, XC mostly vapor for now but that could change a few months ahead as they seem to have the prospects of delivering a product similar to what Evan has at like 70-80% completion). But we can't base our strategy on others failing or being pumps & dumps that are "threatening" us due to pumps => we must excel and take the market. Then bring V2 for "fatality". Otherwise the risk is there for more serious contenders appearing.
My 2 duffs.
May 28, 2014, 07:21:26 AM
Hello.
I´m brand new in DakrCoin, but I´m more time in all this Crypto Currency World.
What I want to say is that WE [ EVERYONE] are living in SHOW.... Let me explain something please and share Your opinions as sometimes I don´t know if I´m idiot or what...
BitCoin
1. Was launched silent
2. Had big reward at start
3. Big Boom for bitcoin mining at the 3rd - 4th Q of 2013.
4, price overloaded by MT.gox ( to high price ) I believe as well in this sotry with BOTS in MT.gox servers... I was saying this few weeks ago that something like this may happend but nobody cares...
5. China NEWS can dump and pump price so easy
6. BTC-E price for BTC was 102$ for 30min in January ( try to find how much BTC was bought in this time)
7. BTC from SilkRoad
8. BTC from Exchanges - Time when most exchanges were hacked....
Ok summary for BTC:
Someone (or some groups ) are holding BTC ( big amounts) with this kind of amounts They can do what they want..... why and how?
Dump BTC
Pump BTC
New Coins ( so easy to manipulate all this coins which we have on market)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
DarkCoin
I have nothing bad to say about DarkCoin but PLEASE JUST DON´T THINK LIKE DARKCOIN=PRICE if You are thinking like this than please left this forum and never come back.... If You want coin success than SUPPORT IT! DO SOMETHING! STOP SPREADING FUD!
Observe what is going on, follow merchants, tweet news, post coments under news, DO SOMETHING!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
About all this Crypto World
WE can´t do anything! We are inside this show.... Let THEM ( if i say illuminati ? ) play this game and just follow VALID info... Thanks and Cya around :=)
I´m brand new in DakrCoin, but I´m more time in all this Crypto Currency World.
What I want to say is that WE [ EVERYONE] are living in SHOW.... Let me explain something please and share Your opinions as sometimes I don´t know if I´m idiot or what...
BitCoin
1. Was launched silent
2. Had big reward at start
3. Big Boom for bitcoin mining at the 3rd - 4th Q of 2013.
4, price overloaded by MT.gox ( to high price ) I believe as well in this sotry with BOTS in MT.gox servers... I was saying this few weeks ago that something like this may happend but nobody cares...
5. China NEWS can dump and pump price so easy
6. BTC-E price for BTC was 102$ for 30min in January ( try to find how much BTC was bought in this time)
7. BTC from SilkRoad
8. BTC from Exchanges - Time when most exchanges were hacked....
Ok summary for BTC:
Someone (or some groups ) are holding BTC ( big amounts) with this kind of amounts They can do what they want..... why and how?
Dump BTC
Pump BTC
New Coins ( so easy to manipulate all this coins which we have on market)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
DarkCoin
I have nothing bad to say about DarkCoin but PLEASE JUST DON´T THINK LIKE DARKCOIN=PRICE if You are thinking like this than please left this forum and never come back.... If You want coin success than SUPPORT IT! DO SOMETHING! STOP SPREADING FUD!
Observe what is going on, follow merchants, tweet news, post coments under news, DO SOMETHING!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
About all this Crypto World
WE can´t do anything! We are inside this show.... Let THEM ( if i say illuminati ? ) play this game and just follow VALID info... Thanks and Cya around :=)
May 28, 2014, 07:20:21 AM
If you really want to run a masternode although you aren't too much into the security stuff (which I advise against!) then you at least might wanna use 2-FA for your SSH access.
Here's a fool-proof (well, there's always a greater fool!) tutorial on how to do that on Ubuntu. http://www.howtogeek.com/121650/how-to-secure-ssh-with-google-authenticators-two-factor-authentication/
edit: btw, the Android Google Authenticator isn't open source anymore! You can download "OTP Authenticator" which is a fork of the last Google Authenticator version that was open source. There's the binaries on the play store, the source is hosted on sourceforge iirc.
Here's a fool-proof (well, there's always a greater fool!) tutorial on how to do that on Ubuntu. http://www.howtogeek.com/121650/how-to-secure-ssh-with-google-authenticators-two-factor-authentication/
edit: btw, the Android Google Authenticator isn't open source anymore! You can download "OTP Authenticator" which is a fork of the last Google Authenticator version that was open source. There's the binaries on the play store, the source is hosted on sourceforge iirc.
Thanks for the Link , thank Linus we have OpenSource
Jump to: