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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6415. (Read 9723858 times)

legendary
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My client is not connecting to any nodes, anyone got a conf file example I could copy?

use at your own risk, i logged these darkcoi nnodes while connected to my server node
http://pastebin.com/qmn8xF2s

Thanks, what do you mean use at your own risk though?
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sorry to dumb down this current discussions but can someone pls answer a few basic questions for me....i've been mining DRK for a few weeks and like the concept of the coin.  It's one of the few i believe actually serves a purpose.

so i just need a quick summary...

Is Darkcoin completely anoymous?  is Darksend going to work as planned?

Is AnonyMint a DRK developler?

Should I keep mining Darkcoin or go back to normal scrypt coins?

No AnonyMint is not a developer, but he has brought up ideas for the coin to get better.

Nothing is ever completely anonymous, DRK was not developed to give anyone a way to do anything illegal, the idea was to give people a coin that allows you to send and receive coins and would be really hard to track, which is still in beta development, but is working currently, if using the beta wallet, but we are trying to make it even better. Currently with othercoins including Bitcoin you can look back and see addresses and who they sent coins to.


I'm at a loss here . . the way you worded this could indicate that you think that anonymity is illegal. It is not . . and there is nothing wrong with wanting it and especially having it.

Just because people ask if something is completely anonymous should not allude to thoughts of illegality.

Doing illegal things are illegal, but the tools by which someone may conduct illegal things are just that. To imply otherwise would defeatist . . and quite against the vibe I pick up from this thread in general.

If I have cash in my hand . . and pay someone with it for some groceries . . I have conducted an anonymous transaction as far as this example will serve. I'm excluding cameras, the smartphone in my pocket, or any other form of seemingly eternal memory for the purpose of this point.

Up until the last decade or two . . we've taken transactions that are that simple completely for granted. I just don't understand how wanting that again, but across the internet should be pissed on at every mention of the word "anonymous".

I'm not trying to demonize you, you're fantastic as far as I can tell . . I was just over-exaggerating a point I see that keeps being brought up over and over that really gets to me.

It's becoming more clear every day that anonymity is becoming important in this . . so when I read posts like this from people who have been in this thread a long time and have active roles in development as far as i can tell . . I take it serious when someone says they are drawing a line like you just did.

Should I believe that you'd like this to be private to the point where it can still get you tracked, jailed or killed if someone had enough money to track what you do . . or should I believe that you'd like to see this to the point where I won't see Game of Thrones ads pushed to my browser tens of times due to my purchase history a month ago?

Either way . . I'm still largely in support . . but if you're going to draw lines then I (being just a regular user) guess I need to as well.





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Ok, so I have darkcoind in my Ubuntu, I started it , it seems ok, but I can't see any feed back.  If I try to start it again, it can't get a lock on the .darkcoin directory so it must be running.  I can't stop it either.  ./darkcoin stop or -stop or --stop doesn't work, says
error: incorrect rpcuser or rpcpassword (authorization failed)

so I try one of those with
./darkcoind stop -rpcuser=name -rpcpassword=pass

I try this with help -help --help as well, but it doesn't do anything.  I also can't getinfo

Can anyone help me?  I'm leaving it for the night, maybe it's downloading the blockchain and can't be disturbed?  I'll see how it is in the morning Smiley

Thanks for any help

p.s. I can't find a good readme on this either, no info, so maybe I'm just not finding it?

It will take a few mins to download the block chain.

for help, this will list all available command:
./darkcoind help

This will show you mining info:
./darkcoind getmininginfo

If you need to kill darkcoind:
killall darkcoind
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The Future Of Work
Ok, so I have darkcoind in my Ubuntu, I started it , it seems ok, but I can't see any feed back.  If I try to start it again, it can't get a lock on the .darkcoin directory so it must be running.  I can't stop it either.  ./darkcoin stop or -stop or --stop doesn't work, says
error: incorrect rpcuser or rpcpassword (authorization failed)

so I try one of those with
./darkcoind stop -rpcuser=name -rpcpassword=pass

I try this with help -help --help as well, but it doesn't do anything.  I also can't getinfo

Can anyone help me?  I'm leaving it for the night, maybe it's downloading the blockchain and can't be disturbed?  I'll see how it is in the morning Smiley

Thanks for any help

p.s. I can't find a good readme on this either, no info, so maybe I'm just not finding it?
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sorry to dumb down this current discussions but can someone pls answer a few basic questions for me....i've been mining DRK for a few weeks and like the concept of the coin.  It's one of the few i believe actually serves a purpose.

so i just need a quick summary...

Is Darkcoin completely anoymous?  is Darksend going to work as planned?

Is AnonyMint a DRK developler?

Should I keep mining Darkcoin or go back to normal scrypt coins?

No AnonyMint is not a developer, but he has brought up ideas for the coin to get better.

Nothing is ever completely anonymous, DRK was not developed to give anyone a way to do anything illegal, the idea was to give people a coin that allows you to send and receive coins and would be really hard to track, which is still in beta development, but is working currently, if using the beta wallet, but we are trying to make it even better. Currently with othercoins including Bitcoin you can look back and see addresses and who they sent coins to.
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Pre-sale - March 18
If it turns out that the last 10 pages were not "the coming together of great minds over a scholarly discussion", but rather Evan having an argument with his alter ego having finally lost it, I will be greatly disappointed Smiley

Never!

Now pop some corns!
hero member
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sorry to dumb down this current discussions but can someone pls answer a few basic questions for me....i've been mining DRK for a few weeks and like the concept of the coin.  It's one of the few i believe actually serves a purpose.

so i just need a quick summary...

Is Darkcoin completely anoymous?  is Darksend going to work as planned?

Is AnonyMint a DRK developler?

Should I keep mining Darkcoin or go back to normal scrypt coins?
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If it turns out that the last 10 pages were not "the coming together of great minds over a scholarly discussion", but rather Evan having an argument with his alter ego having finally lost it, I will be greatly disappointed Smiley
sr. member
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1xbit.com
Ok, gotcha. That could be mitigated in a similar way by the community running scripts to act as inputs to push DS transactions through. I think Evan suggested this a while back.

Can you explain more? I don't understand.
Was just referring to the idea in the whitepaper of having a script to darksend random amounts to yourself to increase entropy in inputs.
Based on these numbers (despite not factoring in sybil inputs), it seems clear that a high level of anonymity can be achieved by increasing the number of pooling stages to 10+, even if the attacker controls > 50% of nodes.

Depends. Because 50% means that your anonymity set is reduced by 50% on each round as I explained in my other post above.

Example. If you are mixed with 10 others on each round, then only 5 will be anonymous (and one of the five might be you), so that means have 50% + 20% (1 in 5) chance to be non-anonymous. So 70% per round. You will need more rounds or you need larger mix sizes.

This is actually not correct. A distinction needs to be made between the risk of being unmasked completely, and the reduction in the size of the set of anonymous entities in a pool.

As an illustration: say we have a ballot with only two voters. We would know with 50% certainty the identity behind each vote. It's a small anonymous set of identities, but the vote is still anonymous. The lack of certainty represents a break in the causal chain. This is important for various reasons, but doesn't diminish the importance of having a large pool of anonymous identities (likewise for various reasons). So for strong anonymity we need some level of certainty of not being unmasked completely AND a sufficiently large pool of anonymous users.

The edge case is where all other inputs are sybils, which breaks the anonymity and would have to be factored into the calculation (it'd be a small factor).

This distinction means the % of sybil inputs doesn't contribute to the chance of being unmasked in the way you're describing (except for the aforementioned edge case). The % of sybil inputs changes the size of the pool of anonymous identities. These are different concepts and to cover them both we'd need two separate calculations.

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Also if it is same 10 you are mixed with every round (or any overlap), then anonymity is reduced. If always same 10 on every round, then you attain no better than 20% non-anonymous no matter how many rounds you use.
That's true, however I'd assume it would be designed such that there would be no guarantee that each stage of pooling would contain the same users, otherwise it'd defeat the point.

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Also you have to factor in the non-anonymous rate of Tor and those inputs who didn't use Tor at all are not anonymous. This reduces your anonymity set, even if you use Tor.
This is important and I don't think the ramifications of IP addresses unmasking anonymity have been adequately discussed here yet.

What would be required to unmask an otherwise anonymous darksend transaction if the IP addresses were available at each of the compromised nodes?
legendary
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Dash Developer
My client is not connecting to any nodes, anyone got a conf file example I could copy?

Had the same problem, it took like an hour + to connect to a node but it's all good now.  I just left it alone.

Both seed nodes were down, I forget to check them. Anyone else want to host a seed node?

- It needs to be configured to 200 connections max
- Must have 9999 open from the outside
- Must be a static IP
- Must be permanently available  

PM me and I'll add them to the source

Would it be of any help to use an amazon tiny ec2?  Only 1 cpu, but if it's just to run info through?  Let me know!

I have one running on a micro.

All I do is run darkcoind?  then give you all the ip?

max-connections=200
with 9999 open
and darkcoind running, that's it
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The Future Of Work
My client is not connecting to any nodes, anyone got a conf file example I could copy?

Had the same problem, it took like an hour + to connect to a node but it's all good now.  I just left it alone.

Both seed nodes were down, I forget to check them. Anyone else want to host a seed node?

- It needs to be configured to 200 connections max
- Must have 9999 open from the outside
- Must be a static IP
- Must be permanently available  

PM me and I'll add them to the source

Would it be of any help to use an amazon tiny ec2?  Only 1 cpu, but if it's just to run info through?  Let me know!

I have one running on a micro.

All I do is run darkcoind?  then give you all the ip?
sr. member
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noticed you guys listed it as 0.9.1 version while it is still on old 0.8.6
It is not even 0.9.0

seems misleading, is their any update on when we can expect 0.9.0.x core or newer version.

Beta is on 10.0.0 right now, the regular is 9.1 or something like that.  We had a hard fork for an improvement to dgw recently.

I thik "0.9.0.x core" is reference client.

https://bitcoin.org/bin/0.9.0/README.txt
Code:
Rebranding to Bitcoin Core
---------------------------

To reduce confusion between Bitcoin-the-network and Bitcoin-the-software we
have renamed the reference client to Bitcoin Core.
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The Future Of Work

It's like being an observer of some momentous historical event. Or it will be when Anonymint posts, "Huh. OK then."


LOL, don't hold your breath, it'll never happen, LOL

Mine something more profitable and buy dark with it???
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I'm really excited to see the evolution of this thread from people trying to figure out how to mine it.. to people talking about the price.. to a nice solid technical discussion about improving darksend.

I also really enjoyed Anonymint's summary a few posts up.. it really helped with understanding what on earth was even being discussed.

It's kind of like watching a movie slowly devolve into Aramaic without subtitles. I sure as hell don't get it, but I am entertained.
hero member
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I'm really excited to see the evolution of this thread from people trying to figure out how to mine it.. to people talking about the price.. to a nice solid technical discussion about improving darksend.

I also really enjoyed Anonymint's summary a few posts up.. it really helped with understanding what on earth was even being discussed.
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The Future Of Work
WTF is going on here I go to Mexico for a week and...AnonyMint is helping.  Huh

Shit let's just solve the Israel/Palestine problem, we seem to be on a roll here.

LOL, very good!  eduffield obviously has the patience of a saint
legendary
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Dash Developer
Evan how are you going to stop the adversary from flooding the Darksend will unlimited inputs? You charge a small fee?

You mean for honest transactions like a Sybil? There is a small fee that would add up of 0.001DRK
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The Future Of Work
Why not Pow and PoS, where PoS is tied to fees earned from serving the nework?

ASIC for bitcoin is an arms race because people are spending cash on hardware trying to make as much as possible. Why not have a similar system for nodes? Create an arms race for being honest nodes and deploying as many as possible to fend off or diminish attacks?

I have no idea how this could be done, but it's an amazing idea!  Fits in with my capitalistic sensibilities.
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Evan how are you going to stop the adversary from flooding the Darksend will unlimited inputs? You charge a small fee?
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The Future Of Work
noticed you guys listed it as 0.9.1 version while it is still on old 0.8.6
It is not even 0.9.0

seems misleading, is their any update on when we can expect 0.9.0.x core or newer version.

Beta is on 10.0.0 right now, the regular is 9.1 or something like that.  We had a hard fork for an improvement to dgw recently.
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