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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6529. (Read 9723858 times)

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Short of a mathematically provable algo, my assumption is that full information + clever guys + lots of servers will be able to unravel any path information. From an anonymity standpoint the whole txout->txin system is absolutely horrible. Its like if you looked at a $100 USD bill with a microscope you could see every transaction it was involved in! This is why some theorize bitcoin was invented by one of the TLA's

For example, at some point the funds come out of the stealth address to a public destination. Even if knapsacking analysis is prevented by streams of identical denominations, there is still timing analysis.


That is partly the reason that darkcoin is 99% anonymous. You run into the lock and key problem:

Any security system !ANY! is only designed to defeat a certain level of motivation, an anticipated level of attack. No system can be 100%. In the lock and key analogy, if you really build an impenetrable lock system, an supremely determined attacker will simply attack the door itself. You can build security against a reasonable level of attack, but you cannot protect against any attack. It simply isn't possible.

The goal is to make it more costly to attack something than any potential gain. That's why you can put a chain lock on your beat up bicycle and an expensive alarm on your Ferrari. Darkcoin cannot reasonably expect to defeat the full computing power of the NSA armed with quantum computers backed by picobytes of datastorage to analyze every single transaction within the network and calculate probabilities for in and out addresses. That being said, we will probably never have that kind of scrutiny - in fact, it is likely that most of that power is busy collecting information on Russia, China, etc. While it is theorietically possible for darksend to be cracked, it is highly improbable that it will ever be cracked because the incentive isn't there.

That, and most everyone else is incapable of cracking it.

Try to defeat OpenBSD ;-)

http://www.openbsd.org/

hahaha I"m not bagging on good tech (I run pfsense as a firewall) - I'm just saying that if someone really wanted to get into your system, they would break into your house and do it. But that is an unreasonable act, and you probably don't have anything on your system worth a felony B&E conviction, so no one will. Plus, it would be additionally difficult to find you , etc, etc.

My point is that nothing is 100% - and that it really doesn't need to be.
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http://darkcoin.mine.nu/poolhash.html

This is pool hashrate (sum of pool's hash. coinmine, such, lottery, mininghub, official, p2pool, cpupool)

update : 10 min.
recent block : when block found.

https://i.imgur.com/Mlaq9y3.png


Updated

"last 100 blocks found by"
update : when block found.

need hash distribution.



+5 DRK for you, dude. Thanks for all you do with p2pool
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1xbit.com
InternetApe / LimLims,

Perhaps you can set-up a publicly available web-analytics view of the darkcoin.io website?
(e.g. Webalizer, Open Web Analytics, etc.).


I would love to see (and probably also many other community members here) stats of how many people find interest in the content of the Darkcoin site, which countries they come from, how many new vs. old visitors, etc...

Good question. I don't have access to the web server but I can give you a peek at the subreddit traffic stats:

legendary
Activity: 1358
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we are growing, come and help mine darkcoin, and get a chance of winning the lottery pool.

once a week 50% of the fees, will be drawn,
to one lucky winner... is it your turn next?

Pool Pays Witdrawal fee: 0.0
Please spread your hashing power, we dont want 1 pool to have >50%

DDOS Protected pool


Coinmine.pl is sneaking towards 50% again, please spread your hashing power

source: http://darkcoin.mine.nu/poolhash.html
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Short of a mathematically provable algo, my assumption is that full information + clever guys + lots of servers will be able to unravel any path information. From an anonymity standpoint the whole txout->txin system is absolutely horrible. Its like if you looked at a $100 USD bill with a microscope you could see every transaction it was involved in! This is why some theorize bitcoin was invented by one of the TLA's

For example, at some point the funds come out of the stealth address to a public destination. Even if knapsacking analysis is prevented by streams of identical denominations, there is still timing analysis.


That is partly the reason that darkcoin is 99% anonymous. You run into the lock and key problem:

Any security system !ANY! is only designed to defeat a certain level of motivation, an anticipated level of attack. No system can be 100%. In the lock and key analogy, if you really build an impenetrable lock system, an supremely determined attacker will simply attack the door itself. You can build security against a reasonable level of attack, but you cannot protect against any attack. It simply isn't possible.

The goal is to make it more costly to attack something than any potential gain. That's why you can put a chain lock on your beat up bicycle and an expensive alarm on your Ferrari. Darkcoin cannot reasonably expect to defeat the full computing power of the NSA armed with quantum computers backed by picobytes of datastorage to analyze every single transaction within the network and calculate probabilities for in and out addresses. That being said, we will probably never have that kind of scrutiny - in fact, it is likely that most of that power is busy collecting information on Russia, China, etc. While it is theorietically possible for darksend to be cracked, it is highly improbable that it will ever be cracked because the incentive isn't there.

That, and most everyone else is incapable of cracking it.

Try to defeat OpenBSD ;-)

http://www.openbsd.org/
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Activity: 249
Merit: 250
So this happened:

Code:
https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan

If they deliver (and pretty sure they will, think they are the most reputable miner hardware company out there) there will be an exodus
of miners from other coins. Vertcoin already nearly doubled in value and gained 40%+ market cap. Bitcoinscrypt got +400% market cap
Unfortunately we were not affected by these news in anyway  Angry

But lets give it sometime, expected delivery is Q2/Q3 so stuff might change


Well, I wouldn't preorder something like that. Who knows what they will actually deliver.

I wouldn't make too much of those raises. We see altcoins going insane all the time and I'm glad DRK haven't been hyped like that. What's the use if you plan to hold your coins for a while? The only ones who benefit are the small amout of sellers who get out of on the top, and if they believe in the coin they have to buy back after a crash. Not for me..

Slow and steady wins the race by actually delivering something useful for a change.


True, see your point here.

But yeah as the poster above me stated, it is KNC and they proved they can deliver (usually even exceeding the specs initially announced by a great margin)
We'll see how this develops.
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So this happened:

Code:
https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan

If they deliver (and pretty sure they will, think they are the most reputable miner hardware company out there) there will be an exodus
of miners from other coins. Vertcoin already nearly doubled in value and gained 40%+ market cap. Bitcoinscrypt got +400% market cap
Unfortunately we were not affected by these news in anyway  Angry

But lets give it sometime, expected delivery is Q2/Q3 so stuff might change


Well, I wouldn't preorder something like that. Who knows what they will actually deliver.

I wouldn't make too much of those raises. We see altcoins going insane all the time and I'm glad DRK haven't been hyped like that. What's the use if you plan to hold your coins for a while? The only ones who benefit are the small amout of sellers who get out of on the top, and if they believe in the coin they have to buy back after a crash. Not for me..

Slow and steady wins the race by actually delivering something useful for a change.

It's KNC. They have prooved themselves already that they are no scams. This is legit. Scrypt mining will be dead for GPU miners as soon as these devices are shipping
legendary
Activity: 930
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So this happened:

Code:
https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan

If they deliver (and pretty sure they will, think they are the most reputable miner hardware company out there) there will be an exodus
of miners from other coins. Vertcoin already nearly doubled in value and gained 40%+ market cap. Bitcoinscrypt got +400% market cap
Unfortunately we were not affected by these news in anyway  Angry

But lets give it sometime, expected delivery is Q2/Q3 so stuff might change


Well, I wouldn't preorder something like that. Who knows what they will actually deliver.

I wouldn't make too much of those raises. We see altcoins going insane all the time and I'm glad DRK haven't been hyped like that. What's the use if you plan to hold your coins for a while? The only ones who benefit are the small amout of sellers who get out of on the top, and if they believe in the coin they have to buy back after a crash. Not for me..

Slow and steady wins the race by actually delivering something useful for a change.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250

http://darkcoin.mine.nu/poolhash.html

This is pool hashrate (sum of pool's hash. coinmine, such, lottery, mininghub, official, p2pool, cpupool)

update : 10 min.
recent block : when block found.

https://i.imgur.com/Mlaq9y3.png


Updated

"last 100 blocks found by"
update : when block found.

need hash distribution.

sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
So this happened:

Code:
https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan

If they deliver (and pretty sure they will, think they are the most reputable miner hardware company out there) there will be an exodus
of miners from other coins. Vertcoin already nearly doubled in value and gained 40%+ market cap. Bitcoinscrypt got +400% market cap
Unfortunately we were not affected by these news in anyway  Angry

But lets give it sometime, expected delivery is Q2/Q3 so stuff might change
ImI
legendary
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Sorry, thread is so big. How long till Darksend is ready?

2 weeks AFAIK
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Activity: 196
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272.00   New website design (using existing content; community will select the winner)

I have a couple of questions about this.

1. When are the designs due
2. Can I submit multiple designs
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Is there another miner than the sph-sgminer under bamt-linux?
legendary
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Monero Evangelist
Sorry, thread is so big. How long till Darksend is ready?
legendary
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Not that I condone the use of this coin for anything illegal. It is a form of cash so people can choose to do whatever they want with it.

With that said - take a look at this article: http://www.pfhub.com/2-trillion-flows-through-the-u-s-black-market-annually-and-the-governments-focus-is-bitcoin-421/

Imagine if some of that value flowed back into DarkCoin!
sr. member
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legendary
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Monero Evangelist
sr. member
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InternetApe / LimLims,

Perhaps you can set-up a publicly available web-analytics view of the darkcoin.io website?
(e.g. Webalizer, Open Web Analytics, etc.).


I would love to see (and probably also many other community members here) stats of how many people find interest in the content of the Darkcoin site, which countries they come from, how many new vs. old visitors, etc...
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We need a big transaction like this in DRK to grab the attention of media. Anyone want to buy/sell a Bali villa?

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/500-000-bitcoin-just-bought-someone-villa-bali-n57211

start with a t-shirt

Ha, yeah a villa might be reaching but something substantial and across borders would be something to write about  Smiley

dead serious, trying to wrap up the group buy on T-Shirts.
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The Future Of Work
Why would we add messages to a crypto coin? Isn't bitmessage the perfect option for those who wish to send private messages?

I think the idea was to send a message along with a payment, so it might be the delivery address, a purchase order number, or some kind of reference such as, "you spend this all before next month kid, you ain't gonna eat!"
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