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TingCoin

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Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 10:44:09 AM

Quote from: AD_Infinitum on February 27, 2014, 10:20:43 AM

Quote from: TanteStefana on February 27, 2014, 03:23:23 AM

BTW: I just read something tonight on the bitcoin wallet, and since our wallets are based on the bitcoin wallet, I'll have to assume it's true of ours. I read that the wallet creates 100 addresses, and you use them up for everything you do, such as send someone a payment, receive a payment, etc... I think it even "uses up" an address for payments from mining. Anyway, once you use them up, the wallet creates 100 new addresses.

The point being that if you think, as I did, that you only need one, original backup of your wallet, it's not so! You're constantly using up that 100 addresses, and if you don't re-save your wallet.dat file after the next 100 addresses are created and used, and something happens, all the newer transactions can be lost to you!

So maintaining your wallet backups is extremely important. You need to guesstimate how often you need to backup, or simply backup often. You can do it with the wallet backup function on the main menu, I forget which drop-down item, 'cause I don't have my wallet on this machine to look at, but from there, you can name the file, something like DarkCoin_2-26-14.dat and save it anywhere you like from that menu. No need to close the wallet even.

Can someone confirm or challenge this above, please? I don't think is true, but I'm not sure. Thanks!

you only need to backup your wallet once, the addresses being talk about are the recieving addresses, your wallet private key, is only 1 key, the rest is calculated from that key

And all receiving addresses you've ever made (on QT client with that instance of wallet.dat) are all accessed with that 1 private key?

I use Electrum for Bitcoin, it's a far superior client IMO shows you exactly what it's doing too.

kekaocc

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Why not give the algorithm named
I have seen another coin, is DARK cloning, as if the algorithm named "dark forces" Chinese name is "暗黑力量"

CHAOSiTEC

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Quote from: AD_Infinitum on February 27, 2014, 10:20:43 AM

Quote from: TanteStefana on February 27, 2014, 03:23:23 AM

BTW: I just read something tonight on the bitcoin wallet, and since our wallets are based on the bitcoin wallet, I'll have to assume it's true of ours. I read that the wallet creates 100 addresses, and you use them up for everything you do, such as send someone a payment, receive a payment, etc... I think it even "uses up" an address for payments from mining. Anyway, once you use them up, the wallet creates 100 new addresses.

The point being that if you think, as I did, that you only need one, original backup of your wallet, it's not so! You're constantly using up that 100 addresses, and if you don't re-save your wallet.dat file after the next 100 addresses are created and used, and something happens, all the newer transactions can be lost to you!

So maintaining your wallet backups is extremely important. You need to guesstimate how often you need to backup, or simply backup often. You can do it with the wallet backup function on the main menu, I forget which drop-down item, 'cause I don't have my wallet on this machine to look at, but from there, you can name the file, something like DarkCoin_2-26-14.dat and save it anywhere you like from that menu. No need to close the wallet even.

Can someone confirm or challenge this above, please? I don't think is true, but I'm not sure. Thanks!

you only need to backup your wallet once, the addresses being talk about are the recieving addresses, your wallet private key, is only 1 key, the rest is calculated from that key

bitmiggy

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Quote from: AD_Infinitum on February 27, 2014, 10:20:43 AM

Quote from: TanteStefana on February 27, 2014, 03:23:23 AM

BTW: I just read something tonight on the bitcoin wallet, and since our wallets are based on the bitcoin wallet, I'll have to assume it's true of ours. I read that the wallet creates 100 addresses, and you use them up for everything you do, such as send someone a payment, receive a payment, etc... I think it even "uses up" an address for payments from mining. Anyway, once you use them up, the wallet creates 100 new addresses.

The point being that if you think, as I did, that you only need one, original backup of your wallet, it's not so! You're constantly using up that 100 addresses, and if you don't re-save your wallet.dat file after the next 100 addresses are created and used, and something happens, all the newer transactions can be lost to you!

So maintaining your wallet backups is extremely important. You need to guesstimate how often you need to backup, or simply backup often. You can do it with the wallet backup function on the main menu, I forget which drop-down item, 'cause I don't have my wallet on this machine to look at, but from there, you can name the file, something like DarkCoin_2-26-14.dat and save it anywhere you like from that menu. No need to close the wallet even.

Can someone confirm or challenge this above, please? I don't think is true, but I'm not sure. Thanks!

Almost certainly correct. It's a security measure since addresses shouldn't be reused if you want the highest security and as much anonymity as possible.

AD_Infinitum

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Quote from: TanteStefana on February 27, 2014, 03:23:23 AM

BTW: I just read something tonight on the bitcoin wallet, and since our wallets are based on the bitcoin wallet, I'll have to assume it's true of ours. I read that the wallet creates 100 addresses, and you use them up for everything you do, such as send someone a payment, receive a payment, etc... I think it even "uses up" an address for payments from mining. Anyway, once you use them up, the wallet creates 100 new addresses.

The point being that if you think, as I did, that you only need one, original backup of your wallet, it's not so! You're constantly using up that 100 addresses, and if you don't re-save your wallet.dat file after the next 100 addresses are created and used, and something happens, all the newer transactions can be lost to you!

So maintaining your wallet backups is extremely important. You need to guesstimate how often you need to backup, or simply backup often. You can do it with the wallet backup function on the main menu, I forget which drop-down item, 'cause I don't have my wallet on this machine to look at, but from there, you can name the file, something like DarkCoin_2-26-14.dat and save it anywhere you like from that menu. No need to close the wallet even.

Can someone confirm or challenge this above, please? I don't think is true, but I'm not sure. Thanks!

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Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 10:17:38 AM

Actually I've seen users on C-Cex asking why their buy orders weren't filled before the very low ones... Maybe if someone dumps for a low price, instead of filling buy orders high to low, it fills admins buy orders first and doesn't care about price order. This wouldn't surprise me.

Sadly it wouldn't surprise me either, though it's exchange order fulfillment 101.

TingCoin

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Actually I've seen users on C-Cex asking why their buy orders weren't filled before the very low ones... Maybe if someone dumps for a low price, instead of filling buy orders high to low, it fills admins buy orders first and doesn't care about price order. This wouldn't surprise me.

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Quote from: Brilliantrocket on February 27, 2014, 10:05:28 AM

This coin has some of the strangest dumping activity I've ever seen. Makes no fucking sense.

Nothing to do specifically with the coin, and everything to do with an exchange that has appalling code development and testing procedures coupled with bad to non-existent security measures. DRK is unfortunately the most liquid coin on their exchange and therefore the target of every bug that's either exploited or found unintentionally.

Quite why anyone would even consider sending coins or funds there I have no idea.

@eduffield: Maybe it's time to remove C-Cex from the list of exchanges in the first post in order to protect new users who aren't aware of the problems over there? The rest of us are undoubtedly about to be hurt by even more dumping due to their latest "bug" where someone obtained thousands upon thousands of DRK for virtually zero cost while far higher priced buy orders were bypassed. In fact it seems to be starting on Cryptsy already.

Honest Tim

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There appears to be similar strange activity with GRC, the 2nd most traded coin on C-Cex.
I think C-cex are in a whole lot of trouble (if they weren't already)

TingCoin

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Quote from: Honest Tim on February 27, 2014, 09:59:58 AM

I think theres something going very very wrong @ C-Cex.
DRK being traded at STUPID money, even though.......

alexred: @support I had an order for drk at .0005, how come the cdupmer did not fill it?

V V peculiar.

This has NOTHING* to do with DRK, but the code at C-Cex IF this is true.

*Unless we have all severely underestimated the threat of DRK and the rabbit hole goes further than we thought possible.

Surely if someone tried to sell DRK for an incredibly low price, it would fill all the buy orders all the way down to that price in order of top to bottom. We could assume someone's got a bot running at C-Cex that detects buy orders being filled and quickly pulls the high ones off so it ALL gets sold for a low price.

Come on, why would someone sell for so cheap when theres insta-sell buy orders they can fill for 10x and 100x the price, literally...

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:55:38 AM

Quote from: Honest Tim on February 27, 2014, 09:51:57 AM

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:49:16 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:40:11 AM

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:34:59 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:15:28 AM

That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.

Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).

I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.

What the..?

seems like the same problem i worked on earlier...

Yeah that's what I was thinking, be interesting to figure out what causes it. I didn't do anything specific just backup the wallet.dat. I'm sure deleting the wallet.dat on my desktop (incorrect balance) and creating a new one sending ALL the coins from the laptop to the new wallet would solve the problem? Then again, will my laptop then be showing wrong funds if I transfer it over?

I just want piece of mind I have a wallet.dat file backed up with all my damn coins retrievable lol

delete old on desktop, delete wallet-qt download latest, let it sync, send over 1 coin see if it goes through, if yes, backup wallet (through menu or close down wallet-qt then copy) then send over the rest

or test with 0.00001? or less. Always, always, ALWAYS TEST FIRST. Always, always, ALWAYS BACKUP.

yep!

Appreciate the help guys! Will try later.

Does this mean there's an inconsistency with wallet backups on Windows OS?
We should probably notify the devs.

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Quote from: Honest Tim on February 27, 2014, 09:59:58 AM

I think theres something going very very wrong @ C-Cex.
DRK being traded at STUPID money, even though.......

alexred: @support I had an order for drk at .0005, how come the cdupmer did not fill it?

V V peculiar.

This has NOTHING* to do with DRK, but the code at C-Cex IF this is true.

*Unless we have all severely underestimated the threat of DRK and the rabbit hole goes further than we thought possible.

You know too much O_O.

Brilliantrocket

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This coin has some of the strangest dumping activity I've ever seen. Makes no fucking sense.

Honest Tim

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I think theres something going very very wrong @ C-Cex.
DRK being traded at STUPID money, even though.......

alexred: @support I had an order for drk at .0005, how come the cdupmer did not fill it?

V V peculiar.

This has NOTHING* to do with DRK, but the code at C-Cex IF this is true.

*Unless we have all severely underestimated the threat of DRK and the rabbit hole goes further than we thought possible.

CHAOSiTEC

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Quote from: Honest Tim on February 27, 2014, 09:51:57 AM

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:49:16 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:40:11 AM

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:34:59 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:15:28 AM

That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.

Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).

I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.

What the..?

seems like the same problem i worked on earlier...

Yeah that's what I was thinking, be interesting to figure out what causes it. I didn't do anything specific just backup the wallet.dat. I'm sure deleting the wallet.dat on my desktop (incorrect balance) and creating a new one sending ALL the coins from the laptop to the new wallet would solve the problem? Then again, will my laptop then be showing wrong funds if I transfer it over?

I just want piece of mind I have a wallet.dat file backed up with all my damn coins retrievable lol

delete old on desktop, delete wallet-qt download latest, let it sync, send over 1 coin see if it goes through, if yes, backup wallet (through menu or close down wallet-qt then copy) then send over the rest

or test with 0.00001? or less. Always, always, ALWAYS TEST FIRST. Always, always, ALWAYS BACKUP.

yep!

Honest Tim

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Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:49:16 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:40:11 AM

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:34:59 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:15:28 AM

That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.

Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).

I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.

What the..?

seems like the same problem i worked on earlier...

Yeah that's what I was thinking, be interesting to figure out what causes it. I didn't do anything specific just backup the wallet.dat. I'm sure deleting the wallet.dat on my desktop (incorrect balance) and creating a new one sending ALL the coins from the laptop to the new wallet would solve the problem? Then again, will my laptop then be showing wrong funds if I transfer it over?

I just want piece of mind I have a wallet.dat file backed up with all my damn coins retrievable lol

delete old on desktop, delete wallet-qt download latest, let it sync, send over 1 coin see if it goes through, if yes, backup wallet (through menu or close down wallet-qt then copy) then send over the rest

or test with 0.00001? or less. Always, always, ALWAYS TEST FIRST. Always, always, ALWAYS BACKUP.

CHAOSiTEC

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Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:40:11 AM

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:34:59 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:15:28 AM

That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.

Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).

I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.

What the..?

seems like the same problem i worked on earlier...

Yeah that's what I was thinking, be interesting to figure out what causes it. I didn't do anything specific just backup the wallet.dat. I'm sure deleting the wallet.dat on my desktop (incorrect balance) and creating a new one sending ALL the coins from the laptop to the new wallet would solve the problem? Then again, will my laptop then be showing wrong funds if I transfer it over?

I just want piece of mind I have a wallet.dat file backed up with all my damn coins retrievable lol

delete old on desktop, delete wallet-qt download latest, let it sync, send over 1 coin see if it goes through, if yes, backup wallet (through menu or close down wallet-qt then copy) then send over the rest

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Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:36:37 AM

Quote from: traumschiff on February 27, 2014, 09:33:26 AM

Quote from: megges on February 27, 2014, 09:16:54 AM

Quote from: slyA on February 27, 2014, 08:25:23 AM

Epic dark dump on c-cex. Someone sold dark down to 0.00000008 satoshi. I'm not mad. I'm quite impressed.

my guess was someone is dumping into his own fresh created c-cex account, to get around his -btc balance ...

but support told me in chat he checked and it isn't so i have no clue what happend there, but its just burned money!
(on cryptsy is a nice 12 btc buy wall ...)

Good thought. Not sure if support would say yes to that question in public, that seems easily abusable with no trade goin on there.

I agree, I bet this is exactly what's happened but support won't say so because they don't want outsiders to think people are multi-accounting. Also it's the reason I made an account there and was considering depositing BTC.

Hmmmmm also you can sell at cryptsy after trade. Rinse and repeat.

TingCoin

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Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on February 27, 2014, 09:34:59 AM

Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:15:28 AM

That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.

Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).

I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.

What the..?

seems like the same problem i worked on earlier...

Yeah that's what I was thinking, be interesting to figure out what causes it. I didn't do anything specific just backup the wallet.dat. I'm sure deleting the wallet.dat on my desktop (incorrect balance) and creating a new one sending ALL the coins from the laptop to the new wallet would solve the problem? Then again, will my laptop then be showing wrong funds if I transfer it over?

I just want piece of mind I have a wallet.dat file backed up with all my damn coins retrievable lol

TingCoin

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Quote from: traumschiff on February 27, 2014, 09:33:26 AM

Quote from: megges on February 27, 2014, 09:16:54 AM

Quote from: slyA on February 27, 2014, 08:25:23 AM

Epic dark dump on c-cex. Someone sold dark down to 0.00000008 satoshi. I'm not mad. I'm quite impressed.

my guess was someone is dumping into his own fresh created c-cex account, to get around his -btc balance ...

but support told me in chat he checked and it isn't so i have no clue what happend there, but its just burned money!
(on cryptsy is a nice 12 btc buy wall ...)

Good thought. Not sure if support would say yes to that question in public, that seems easily abusable with no trade goin on there.

I agree, I bet this is exactly what's happened but support won't say so because they don't want outsiders to think people are multi-accounting. Also it's the reason I made an account there and was considering depositing BTC.

CHAOSiTEC

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Quote from: TingCoin on February 27, 2014, 09:15:28 AM

That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.

Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).

I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.

What the..?

seems like the same problem i worked on earlier...

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