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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 695. (Read 9723733 times)

legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Well... On a different topic... Just finished coming back from my first dirt bike ride of the year! So good to be outside in sun ripping it up!!! Going back out again tomorrow!  C ya suckas later...  Tongue

Let's stay on topic.

Besides technological shortcomings, the biggest issue for Dash and especially Masternode owners is the legal concept called

DELIBERATE  INDIFFERENCE

This is now the most likely reason everyone in the new Dash office may be handcuffed and frogmarched off to jail in the near future.

Watch this appropriately specialized attorney explain why.  Bonus points if you catch his dig at Dash for spending $250k for half-assed legal advice that did not address this critical issue.



Edit: everyone should rewind and watch the entire show.  Siebert demolishes the tired old DashHole talking points over and over.

My personal favorite moment is where he points out that all the so called "Clarifications" about (ie, deflections and lame excuses for) the Instamine are just the Chewbacca defense.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Is it now, well basically you have clearly not done your research, just wait my friend until Evolution is release and then keep saying these words, while others profit from making use of Dash as a digital currency, something bitcoin failed and is still failing to achieve.


You are confused my scam victimized friend.  My post has nothing to do with my own research and even less to do with Evolution.

Mentioning Dash's fake, vaporware version of Lightning as a defense against money services/laundering-related legal issues is just saying "HEY LOOK IT'S CHEWBACCA, WAIT, WHY DOES HE LIVE ON ENDOR?!"

The source of the "DELIBERATE INDIFFERENCE" analysis is Jason Seibert, an attorney specialized in the the relevant areas of law needed to craft an expert opinion on all things Dash Scam.

Check out http://www.seibert-law.com/ and you'll find he is a "Nationally recognized federal trial attorney in the areas of finance and cryptocurrency."

Given the confidence and articulation with which Jason destroys every single DashHole talking point, he has clearly done his research.

Did you even watch the interview, or is your post merely reflexive, knee-jerk gainsaying in the ScientilogistDash tradition of attacking the attacker?

LMK when you are prepared to discuss Jason's favorite topic, the application of the Howey Test to Dash's HYIP.  Smiley
legendary
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'They came from EVERYWHERE to gather for one evening.  California, Oregon, Florida, Canada, South America . . . '

Couldn't make it myself, but DASH has a presence here in Western Australia, with 'IndiaMikeZulu.'

I bought 1.5 Bitcoin's more DASH, and bunged it in my new Ledger. Re-read all the to's and fro's on the instamine thing: satisfied with the explanations. Just starting to use Living Room of Satoshi to pay bills.

Will do token trades of DASH-silver here -- and free coffee in my garden for all crypto geeks (got wild emu chicks taxing the figs on the old tree in the house-clearing).

That sounds so awesome.  They entertain you but feed themselves (and water!)  LOL. Yes, everyone should get together.  Even if it's only a few at a time Cheesy
IMZ
legendary
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'They came from EVERYWHERE to gather for one evening.  California, Oregon, Florida, Canada, South America . . . '

Couldn't make it myself, but DASH has a presence here in Western Australia, with 'IndiaMikeZulu.'

I bought 1.5 Bitcoin's more DASH, and bunged it in my new Ledger. Re-read all the to's and fro's on the instamine thing: satisfied with the explanations. Just starting to use Living Room of Satoshi to pay bills.

Will do token trades of DASH-silver here -- and free coffee in my garden for all crypto geeks (got wild emu chicks taxing the figs on the old tree in the house-clearing).
legendary
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Is the enemy of my enemy, my friend?

Care to explain?


He's confused.  Nobody is his friend!

Will you be my friend Tante? We could go out for coffee together.
legendary
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Is the enemy of my enemy, my friend?

Care to explain?


He's confused.  Nobody is his friend!
legendary
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Is the enemy of my enemy, my friend?

Care to explain?
legendary
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Hi everyone.  Wow, such a busy week.  I had a great time meeting everyone at the open house!  Such an amazing group of people!  They came from EVERYWHERE to gather for one evening.  California, Oregon, Florida, Canada, South America, OMGosh!  And we overwhelmed the conference room.  They had to open the split conference room to allow for the overspill!  LOL.  I can tell you now, that Dash people are the nicest people in the world.  It was a life-changing experience for me.  I've always been the black sheep and I was in a crowd of people talking about the things that move my world, because it moved their world too!  And yet, I got some good new fresh perspectives on things as well. 

Evan said he's been writing books (he was talking about how much planning he is doing).  He's mostly thinking about the next level of Dash.  He calls the DAOs.  He asked an attendee what he does for a living, and was told "I'm a fire fighter".  So Evan explained that one day, fire fighters will be paid for via a DAO.  Everything the people see as needed, they can fund with a DAO.  If we had a DAO to fund the police, flyinfree was saying to me, then they would HAVE to make progress on the problems, or else they would be defunded and others hired (I hope I'm basically expressing this right ;P)  There is plenty of good research done on issues of poverty and violence, but really there is woefully little done to help solve the actual problems.  Instead we simply perpetuate conflict and of course, that feeds into the need for more police and more money, etc... for a dysfunctioning system.

So Evan is working out how these DAOs would function on the blockchain and is writing volumes of manuals/white papers, LOL.  And he's so "in the Zone" if you can imagine.  I almost worry we'll lose him in his mind, LOL.  He looks really happy, like a man who knows he'll spend the rest of his life working on what he believes matters and will make a difference in this world.  What better Nirvona, eh?  So if you're wondering what Evan is doing, he's already 5-10 years possibly 100 years ahead of the rest of us!  Don't make the mistake of thinking he's not working, because he most certainly is. But the coding, immediate planning (to complete the vision of Evolution) marketing, etc... are all covered by our capable Dash Core team now.

What was striking is to see an entrepreneur who isn't a control freak.  He was able to attract amazing people around him, and hand over the reins.  And when I say amazing people, I mean it!  Ryan is incredible, So are coingun and all the team! Top of the line!  I have no doubt that the core team around the world are just as incredible. Dash is a well oiled machine.  Watching this dude with 777 on the end of his name manipulate the price (if that's the case) is highly annoying and destructive.  It hurts people, hell it may devastate people Sad  This is the scum of the earth whom Crypto has attracted.  But there is a counter balance to them, and that's the amazing great people of crypto, and Dash has a disproportionately high number of these people.  And that's due to Evan's amazing brilliance and personality.

Remember, bad people make up only 10% of the population at most.  The other 90% are good people.  That's why good always wins Cheesy 



Thank you very much! I wish I could have come to meet you! We need to do something similar in Europe.

For all the newcomers and lurkers: this is what Dash is about. The only "Digital Trash" related to it can be found on this forum and comes from its obessive haters.  
legendary
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For how long are dash coins locked in masternodes?
For as long as you want. You can sell them in a second but they pay only while they are in wallet
sr. member
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For how long are dash coins locked in masternodes?
sr. member
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Fuck you dash and to all this scam developers and pump and dumpers i should have never beleived to a scamcoin like this shit i allready dumped 10k dash this is a fucking well organized scam i hope it gets fucked to death and im sure litecoin will surpass dash marketcap maximum tommorow putting us again on number 4 on marketcap ..pretty dissapointing it looks like our trolls have been correct yelling abouy evan being a scammer ..dash proved that is one of the bigges scamcoins out there without real adoption fuck this marketing shit all over the place we need fucking fundamentals or another 10k of dash im preparing to dump it harder.

Just dump the fucking lot and be done with it... Dash is better off without individuals like yourself holding coins.  Kiss

Walter

I'm calling bullshit on him.  I trust Volyova more then that guy.  Volyova said he has none of those holdings...claiming that he has over 20 masternodes?!? I didn't see that drop in the MN count.  I call bull shit!


I have 31 masternodes running right now i didnt sold any of them we can bet 3000 dash right now i will call holger as im hosting them with him..we can use him as escrow aswell..i just sold 10k of dash from my total 70k dash that i have ..31 are on masternodes and 39k of dash i have them without masternoding..10k sold so 29k remaining to be dumped if this scam continues just with some shitty marketing..so you even take the bet or i must declare you officialy a chicken!!

Just dump them already... No need to prove anything. Dash = Scam = Sell. Simple  Kiss

Walter

I've just worked it out for you pal.... Put your 70k Dash on polo at around 0.045 and you should get your order filled within around 2 hours (give arbing a chance). I think an exit at 0.045 is a good option for you and will have no doubt made you a profit. Win-Win if you ask me.

Walter
legendary
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Well said Tante Cheesy Really great to hear the positive feedback from the event. I really hope they hold one next year, I'll definitely head over for it! Couldn't make it this year do to imminent baby entering our world Smiley

Walter


Oh my gosh!  Congratulations!  How awesome!

Yes, it was seriously amazing.  I feel like I have a 2nd family Cheesy
sr. member
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Hi everyone.  Wow, such a busy week.  I had a great time meeting everyone at the open house!  Such an amazing group of people!  They came from EVERYWHERE to gather for one evening.  California, Oregon, Florida, Canada, South America, OMGosh!  And we overwhelmed the conference room.  They had to open the split conference room to allow for the overspill!  LOL.  I can tell you now, that Dash people are the nicest people in the world.  It was a life-changing experience for me.  I've always been the black sheep and I was in a crowd of people talking about the things that move my world, because it moved their world too!  And yet, I got some good new fresh perspectives on things as well. 

Evan said he's been writing books (he was talking about how much planning he is doing).  He's mostly thinking about the next level of Dash.  He calls the DAOs.  He asked an attendee what he does for a living, and was told "I'm a fire fighter".  So Evan explained that one day, fire fighters will be paid for via a DAO.  Everything the people see as needed, they can fund with a DAO.  If we had a DAO to fund the police, flyinfree was saying to me, then they would HAVE to make progress on the problems, or else they would be defunded and others hired (I hope I'm basically expressing this right ;P)  There is plenty of good research done on issues of poverty and violence, but really there is woefully little done to help solve the actual problems.  Instead we simply perpetuate conflict and of course, that feeds into the need for more police and more money, etc... for a dysfunctioning system.

So Evan is working out how these DAOs would function on the blockchain and is writing volumes of manuals/white papers, LOL.  And he's so "in the Zone" if you can imagine.  I almost worry we'll lose him in his mind, LOL.  He looks really happy, like a man who knows he'll spend the rest of his life working on what he believes matters and will make a difference in this world.  What better Nirvona, eh?  So if you're wondering what Evan is doing, he's already 5-10 years possibly 100 years ahead of the rest of us!  Don't make the mistake of thinking he's not working, because he most certainly is. But the coding, immediate planning (to complete the vision of Evolution) marketing, etc... are all covered by our capable Dash Core team now.

What was striking is to see an entrepreneur who isn't a control freak.  He was able to attract amazing people around him, and hand over the reins.  And when I say amazing people, I mean it!  Ryan is incredible, So are coingun and all the team! Top of the line!  I have no doubt that the core team around the world are just as incredible. Dash is a well oiled machine.  Watching this dude with 777 on the end of his name manipulate the price (if that's the case) is highly annoying and destructive.  It hurts people, hell it may devastate people Sad  This is the scum of the earth whom Crypto has attracted.  But there is a counter balance to them, and that's the amazing great people of crypto, and Dash has a disproportionately high number of these people.  And that's due to Evan's amazing brilliance and personality.

Remember, bad people make up only 10% of the population at most.  The other 90% are good people.  That's why good always wins Cheesy 



Well said Tante Cheesy Really great to hear the positive feedback from the event. I really hope they hold one next year, I'll definitely head over for it! Couldn't make it this year do to imminent baby entering our world Smiley

Walter
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It's the same cycle that usually happens.  When DASH falls, the trolls come out to bash.   Instamine this, Instamine that.   When it pumps, its because this and because of that.   For us that are holding long, it makes no difference.  Yes, it's painful that DASH has dropped 40% from its all time high.   Unless you control a huge amount of volume in the tens of millions and can continuously maintain the manipulation of the market for YEARS, the best strategy is to just keep buying and accumulating.   I just bought a couple of BTCs worth now and will continue to buy more as the price drops.

Keep this in mind, when it comes to long term vs. short term trading,  based on my experience, the long term hold always win if the coin is solid (same is true with the stock market).   When Dash was pumping, this thread was filled with pages of people who bought or mined thousands of DASH and sold them for $2-$12.  It's the same story with BTC.  I know many that sold thousands of BTC at $10-$30 after BTC crashed, thinking that they were selling at the ATH. Shorting develops a bad habit in a sense that you may win battles but it only takes one time to screw up and you're wiped or you miss a giant pump.  

All true. Long term vs short term.

The only caveat is if/when a coin fails because either there is a technical problem with it, or other coins edge it out of the ecosystem over time..

Yes, that's true and that was case with Lehman.  With DASH, the fundamentals are still rock solid.  Growth and adoption is increasing, the MN count is increasing.  The Dev team has a healthy budget to continue development and marketing.  All the technical releases have been deployed smoothly.  Those are the indicators that matter the most.
HR
legendary
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Transparency & Integrity
Hey all, I’ve done the dirty work for you by getting the dick MasterSchmuck777 turned upside down and exposing him (see posts immediately previous to this one).
   
Now, all you have to do is repost the facts that I’ve posted in exposing MasterSchmuck777 for what he/she is.

It’s that easy. Nothing he/she says is true and you can laugh in his/her face all day long every time he/she comes back with his/her idiocy by reposting what I’ve posted and reminding him/her that he/she is a limp dick who hasn’t got the slightest clue about what he/she claims. A delusional schmuck.

I’m done with him, but he’s not done with you. Like I said, the hard part is done. He/she’s been exposed. Now all you have to do is repost these facts and ask him what’s changed to make you somehow now take him seriously. AND LAUGH IN HIS FACE. It will take a while, but he’ll leave sooner or later.

And for those of you who are diehard fraud haters, you can also follow him around wherever he goes and do the same thing. Wink

Cheers
HR
legendary
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Transparency & Integrity

Hey Fraudster, how about telling us how this brilliant call worked out? (BTW, to be fair, you might not be a fraud, but if you're not a fraud, then you're a real schmuck.)



Our enemies cannot break our walls at 0.06. Up up up Dash.  Tongue Tongue Tongue

We touched the .06 for fun and we closed our shorts there.

Got you either way fellas.

Who said were done tho?

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

Time to go long on Dash!



You're welcome!

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

So let me get this right. At the peak a Dash masternode was worth 125,000 USD and now it is currently worth 67,000 USD and there are actual people who are holding hoping to see a return to the top?

Pure insanity.

IDK.

Looks like its prime for takeoff.

Quick 2 second doodle.



Here we go!






Cheers,

MasterTrader777

UPDATE:





Like I said - Name calling is for chumps.

Of course I have to throw the APRIL FOOLS FUNNIES on you.

ARE YOU REALLY THAT UPTIGHT?

APRIL FOOLS FUCKKER Wink

Don't forget the legit calls to short and recoup .06 levels - Brought it back to .065 level and shorted hard again.

Things are working out great.

The exchange is the fraudsters.

Bet on that.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777


EXPOSED

Didn’t you say your “team runs Polo”? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndash-dash-dashorg-first-self-funding-self-governing-crypto-currency-421615
Aren’t you “an elite group that runs polo”? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18405855
Another one from today (still delusional) “We run Polo”. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndash-dash-dashorg-first-self-funding-self-governing-crypto-currency-421615

All copied below.

So what happened? The collective group circle jerk accidentally hit sell instead of buy? I mean, didn’t you say that you run Polo and that DASH had bottomed and was going up? You think everyone else is an idiot? Only idiots think that.

You’re a fraud who actually believes his/her own BS. A delirious, fraudulent schmuck who gets so confused that you even try to explain away by openly admitting to manipulating the very people who you were recruiting for your “team”. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

So I think we can safely summarize who you are with one short phrase: you're a dick (and a limp one at that).

You’re done here . . . unless you get your rocks off by making a fool of yourself. Idiot.

Think this is a game?

I think your mother’s calling. You can now crawl back into the hole you came out of.


WHY DID DUFFY DICK DELETE THIS?Huh

I'm about to pull out of Dash at this rate - Its performing so poorly against the competition.

lol. I feel bad for those short today.

Cause I should really stay out of trading. It's not where I'm best suited to be helping the project. It will lead to people changing their behavior on my behalf. Seems negative? I'm just trying to figure out where I best fit in and stay out of the rest.

Still dumping on your DUFFY DICK bra?

Oh, shit you're a zombie/troll. Sorry, community. Blocked.

WATCH DUFFY DICK LOCK UP WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE INSTAMINE !!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYoqjN2e-NY&feature=youtu.be&hd=1


DUFFY IS OUT NOW!

I CAUGHT YOUR COMMENT BEFORE YOU COULD DELETE IT AGAIN!

HE IS CLEARLY TELLING YOU HE IS SORRY I EASILY TROLLED HIS ASS TO DEATH.

I TOLD YOU I COULD HELP OR PLAY BALL WITH YOU WANNA BE BALLERS.

MY TEAM RUNS POLO - WHY YOU THINK IM BLOCKED FROM THE BOX?


I warned you guys yesterday.

10 BTC ( margined @ 2.5X ) yesterday hedged with my group made you 6 BTC overnight.

Why is Dash down?

Because we are made up of an elite group that runs polo.

Also because BTC is recovering like I told you, and we are Shorting Dash on BTC'S RECOVERY.

I just picked Dash - because it had the biggest rise, and I knew with my team we can short the biggest fall.

If interested in joining the group - message me.




Still think I'm just a troll?

I feel bad for you if you do.

We run Polo - DDOS hit only cost $1k

We made $100k combined - today alone.

Join the group - message me for more info.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777
legendary
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Just dump them already... No need to prove anything. Dash = Scam = Sell. Simple  Kiss

Walter

How could anyone resist selling for $60 ?  4x what it was a couple months ago.
legendary
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It's the same cycle that usually happens.  When DASH falls, the trolls come out to bash.   Instamine this, Instamine that.   When it pumps, its because this and because of that.   For us that are holding long, it makes no difference.  Yes, it's painful that DASH has dropped 40% from its all time high.   Unless you control a huge amount of volume in the tens of millions and can continuously maintain the manipulation of the market for YEARS, the best strategy is to just keep buying and accumulating.   I just bought a couple of BTCs worth now and will continue to buy more as the price drops.

Keep this in mind, when it comes to long term vs. short term trading,  based on my experience, the long term hold always win if the coin is solid (same is true with the stock market).   When Dash was pumping, this thread was filled with pages of people who bought or mined thousands of DASH and sold them for $2-$12.  It's the same story with BTC.  I know many that sold thousands of BTC at $10-$30 after BTC crashed, thinking that they were selling at the ATH. Shorting develops a bad habit in a sense that you may win battles but it only takes one time to screw up and you're wiped or you miss a giant pump.  

All true. Long term vs short term.

The only caveat is if/when a coin fails because either there is a technical problem with it, or other coins edge it out of the ecosystem over time..
sr. member
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Fuck you dash and to all this scam developers and pump and dumpers i should have never beleived to a scamcoin like this shit i allready dumped 10k dash this is a fucking well organized scam i hope it gets fucked to death and im sure litecoin will surpass dash marketcap maximum tommorow putting us again on number 4 on marketcap ..pretty dissapointing it looks like our trolls have been correct yelling abouy evan being a scammer ..dash proved that is one of the bigges scamcoins out there without real adoption fuck this marketing shit all over the place we need fucking fundamentals or another 10k of dash im preparing to dump it harder.

Just dump the fucking lot and be done with it... Dash is better off without individuals like yourself holding coins.  Kiss

Walter

I'm calling bullshit on him.  I trust Volyova more then that guy.  Volyova said he has none of those holdings...claiming that he has over 20 masternodes?!? I didn't see that drop in the MN count.  I call bull shit!


I have 31 masternodes running right now i didnt sold any of them we can bet 3000 dash right now i will call holger as im hosting them with him..we can use him as escrow aswell..i just sold 10k of dash from my total 70k dash that i have ..31 are on masternodes and 39k of dash i have them without masternoding..10k sold so 29k remaining to be dumped if this scam continues just with some shitty marketing..so you even take the bet or i must declare you officialy a chicken!!

Just dump them already... No need to prove anything. Dash = Scam = Sell. Simple  Kiss

Walter
legendary
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Hi everyone.  Wow, such a busy week.  I had a great time meeting everyone at the open house!  Such an amazing group of people!  They came from EVERYWHERE to gather for one evening.  California, Oregon, Florida, Canada, South America, OMGosh!  And we overwhelmed the conference room.  They had to open the split conference room to allow for the overspill!  LOL.  I can tell you now, that Dash people are the nicest people in the world.  It was a life-changing experience for me.  I've always been the black sheep and I was in a crowd of people talking about the things that move my world, because it moved their world too!  And yet, I got some good new fresh perspectives on things as well. 

Evan said he's been writing books (he was talking about how much planning he is doing).  He's mostly thinking about the next level of Dash.  He calls the DAOs.  He asked an attendee what he does for a living, and was told "I'm a fire fighter".  So Evan explained that one day, fire fighters will be paid for via a DAO.  Everything the people see as needed, they can fund with a DAO.  If we had a DAO to fund the police, flyinfree was saying to me, then they would HAVE to make progress on the problems, or else they would be defunded and others hired (I hope I'm basically expressing this right ;P)  There is plenty of good research done on issues of poverty and violence, but really there is woefully little done to help solve the actual problems.  Instead we simply perpetuate conflict and of course, that feeds into the need for more police and more money, etc... for a dysfunctioning system.

So Evan is working out how these DAOs would function on the blockchain and is writing volumes of manuals/white papers, LOL.  And he's so "in the Zone" if you can imagine.  I almost worry we'll lose him in his mind, LOL.  He looks really happy, like a man who knows he'll spend the rest of his life working on what he believes matters and will make a difference in this world.  What better Nirvona, eh?  So if you're wondering what Evan is doing, he's already 5-10 years possibly 100 years ahead of the rest of us!  Don't make the mistake of thinking he's not working, because he most certainly is. But the coding, immediate planning (to complete the vision of Evolution) marketing, etc... are all covered by our capable Dash Core team now.

What was striking is to see an entrepreneur who isn't a control freak.  He was able to attract amazing people around him, and hand over the reins.  And when I say amazing people, I mean it!  Ryan is incredible, So are coingun and all the team! Top of the line!  I have no doubt that the core team around the world are just as incredible. Dash is a well oiled machine.  Watching this dude with 777 on the end of his name manipulate the price (if that's the case) is highly annoying and destructive.  It hurts people, hell it may devastate people Sad  This is the scum of the earth whom Crypto has attracted.  But there is a counter balance to them, and that's the amazing great people of crypto, and Dash has a disproportionately high number of these people.  And that's due to Evan's amazing brilliance and personality.

Remember, bad people make up only 10% of the population at most.  The other 90% are good people.  That's why good always wins Cheesy 

sr. member
Activity: 428
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It's the same cycle that usually happens.  When DASH falls, the trolls come out to bash.   Instamine this, Instamine that.   When it pumps, its because this and because of that.   For us that are holding long, it makes no difference.  Yes, it's painful that DASH has dropped 40% from its all time high.   Unless you control a huge amount of volume in the tens of millions and can continuously maintain the manipulation of the market for YEARS, the best strategy is to just keep buying and accumulating.   I just bought a couple of BTCs worth now and will continue to buy more as the price drops.

Keep this in mind, when it comes to long term vs. short term trading,  based on my experience, the long term hold always win if the coin is solid (same is true with the stock market).   When Dash was pumping, this thread was filled with pages of people who bought or mined thousands of DASH and sold them for $2-$12.  It's the same story with BTC.  I know many that sold thousands of BTC at $10-$30 after BTC crashed, thinking that they were selling at the ATH. Shorting develops a bad habit in a sense that you may win battles but it only takes one time to screw up and you're wiped or you miss a giant pump.  
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