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legendary
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It is the LTC owners, who should be complaining about merged mining Wink

Kill yourself rofl  Roll Eyes
legendary
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End Feb 2015 Block Halving 1,562,484,375 DOGE

November 2014 Block Halving 3,123,068,769 DOGE

12th September 2014 Block 371337 Merged Mining 1,791,375,000 DOGE

I don't see any 5.25 Billion Cheesy

It would be 6.45 Billion Doge Wink

On a serious (jokes aside), you could argue allowing merged mining with Dogecoin damaged the Litecoin network, because more people bought mining equipment or cloudmining because these extra coins merged on their network equaled extra profitability that made mining irresistible compared to buying LTC Tongue

This led to a massive sell down of LTC to under $1, because those extra people wanted the fastest ROI in BTC or Fiat Currency Shocked

It is the LTC owners, who should be complaining about merged mining Wink
legendary
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Point is, currently if LTC dies DOGE can live on its own (there's incentive to mine). With 0 block reward: LTC dies = DOGE dies.

And all your proposal is based on assumption that there are enough "old DOGE miners" who would choose the pool for some ideological reasons. If you assume that most miners are mining for profit, then none of them would care too much about getting few scraps of DOGE from tx fees. Just as no one cares anymore about getting devcoin while mining bitcoin.


If Litecoin dies then DOGE has far more concerns than 5.25 billion coin push. 

Merge mining isn't tied to LTC hip either, so it wouldn't matter in that sense.

This is the best option for DOGE. Tiny bit of risk, but shouldn't be hard to pull off.

Trust me the block reward isn't needed... it's just a way to milk DOGE.

legendary
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Fees are irrelevant atm. You're essentially asking for the DOGE to be 100% dependent on LTC network (merge mining)

Isn't DOGE already being merge mined?

I'm saying they should get fees only once it gets to 100 billion with 0 block reward.

Old DOGE miners should only mine at the pool if the pool supports DOGE.  Then you dump whatever LTC you get (or whatever coin) and support DOGE.  The pools will continue to mine DOGE because they will earn:

A: Their cut off the top.
B: More power to the pool.
C: Good publicity.
D: They will get some DOGE to dump to support whatever coin is being mined.

It doesn't cost them anything anyways.


Point is, currently if LTC dies DOGE can live on its own (there's incentive to mine). With 0 block reward: LTC dies = DOGE dies.

And all your proposal is based on assumption that there are enough "old DOGE miners" who would choose the pool for some ideological reasons. If you assume that most miners are mining for profit, then none of them would care too much about getting few scraps of DOGE from tx fees. Just as no one cares anymore about getting devcoin while mining bitcoin.
legendary
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Also, block rewards were to low to sustain independent mining lines at pools Tongue

Lie they spend $0 a year more merge mining DOGE.

Secondly, most mining pools will remove Dogecoin from their merged pools, if there is no block rewards Cheesy

No they wouldn't. If the pool doesn't mine DOGE then the DOGE community shouldn't mine with them or refer anyone to them.  The pool wants more miners pointed at it however they can get them.

People will mine... it's more free coins anyways (merge mining uses $0 more electric and has 0 effect on the coin being mined.)


No block rewards, equals an exit from these mining pools, I would thought everyone understood why their has to be a block rewards Tongue

Sometimes, the post on some threads appear to be written by people trying to destroy that crypto-currency Cheesy Shocked

Stop lying and being a greedy miner.

You aren't fooling anyone...
legendary
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Here is good article outlining the reasons for merged mining.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/3488-doge-after-a-few-days-of-merged-mining/

Essentially, it was done to improve the price from it's low of 30's Satoshi to average at 60's Satoshi.

Also, block rewards were to low to sustain independent mining lines at pools Tongue

Secondly, most mining pools will remove Dogecoin from their merged pools, if there is no block rewards Cheesy

Give Me Coin Merged LTC Pool has Dogecoin, Viacoin, Syscoin, Umbrella-LTC and Pesatacoin.

Coinotron LTC Merged Pool only has Dogecoin and Viacoin.

No block rewards, equals an exit from these mining pools, I would thought everyone understood why their has to be a block rewards Tongue

Sometimes, the post on some threads appear to be written by people trying to destroy that crypto-currency Cheesy Shocked
legendary
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It already is, Sad

Thats why i got out. wish i could have held as its the best community but the devs suck my dick and must be getting paid.

It isn't yet... It might be but my god this is a free fix that someone from the community could do  Cry

I seriously agree with you that I think there is some under the table shit going on with leaking 5.25 billion free doge to them.  I proposed merge mining to Jackson a good bit before Charlie Lee got to him @ the convention.  He wasn't interested for shit, so obviously something happened.

Expect the shills/miners to attack us too  Roll Eyes

Devs PLEASE... do something good for DOGE and lets stimulate this Mofo like it should have been long ago. 0 Block reward and it spins on fees!


I'm 100% with you. I still don't get why it was changed. It's merge-mined now, so there's no need to pay out forever; the network is as secured now as it would be regardless of block rewards. 100 DOGE in txfees > 0 DOGE in txfees from not just merge-mining it.

This makes me think the system is being run by greed again. "I need MORE money. For a specific purpose, or because I'm doing more work? No. I just want more money because I can ask for it and why not? GIVE ME MORE MONEY FOR FREE!"

It's ridiculous.
legendary
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It already is, Sad

Thats why i got out. wish i could have held as its the best community but the devs suck my dick and must be getting paid.

It isn't yet... It might be but my god this is a free fix that someone from the community could do  Cry

I seriously agree with you that I think there is some under the table shit going on with leaking 5.25 billion free doge to them.  I proposed merge mining to Jackson a good bit before Charlie Lee got to him @ the convention.  He wasn't interested for shit, so obviously something happened.

Expect the shills/miners to attack us too  Roll Eyes

Devs PLEASE... do something good for DOGE and lets stimulate this Mofo like it should have been long ago. 0 Block reward and it spins on fees!

Then lets get back to helping people and making the world a Better / easier place with crypto as a whole using DOGE as the race car!

legendary
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Everyone knows that annual inflation in 5 billion was added to keep the miners and our network was strong, but it didn't work. The next step was the merger of mining Litecoin and that's great, now we are confident in the safety and strength of our network. I think that now would be reasonable to refuse a permanent inflation 5 billion coins or make it less, for example 1.2 billion(100 million per month). This measure will make our Dogecoin more attractive!

Agree. I would be in favour of reducing the final block reward by half by introducing another halving. It shouldn't do much damage to the hashing power and could have some positive effect on the price.

You could drop the block reward to 0 and let it spin on fees... Roll Eyes

Litecoin miners pay $0 per year more in electricity mining DOGE either way.  Any profit is better than no profit esp with LTC the price it is.

I've been saying this for a year now and I honestly think it would be best for DOGE in the short, medium and long term.

DOGE strength is in its users. The large mining pools should keep mining DOGE because the users will:

A:  Mine LTC.
B:  Tell their friends where to support DOGE.
C:  $0 a year anyways... Fucking mine that shit!

Anyone who is trying to talk DOGE into a block reward is either:

A:  A marketing person trying to run the show.
B:  A Litecoin person trying to take more than they are worth.
C:  Someone who is full of shit.

I really really hope DOGE drops it to 0.  I'd love to fire up the ole Doge wallet.

^ Bumping this thought.

Someone please!

Block reward 0! Stop letting the LTC dumpage rape you good hearted DOGE folks!

If you don't correct this ASAP it will be to late... it may already be, but damn it is worth a shot.

Let them spin the network via fees.


It already is, Sad

Thats why i got out. wish i could have held as its the best community but the devs suck my dick and must be getting paid.
legendary
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Wow, you really woke up on the wrong side of the bed Tongue

In an entire day, only 239,040 Doge are given out for blocks found, that quantity is going to have no effect on Doge's daily price Tongue

In 20 days, it goes down to 119,520. And, it is going to be halved again after that Grin

Your point dosen't make any sense, when 100 billion coins are in investors hands Grin

I'm on the right side of the bed.  

Tired of watching Litecoin leech off DOGE for nothing and act like they deserve something.

5.25 Billion coins per year for ever unless the DOGE devs step up and make the block reward 0 like it should have been (and was in the OP of this Bitcointalk.)

Give them only the fees that they deserve... it will still cost miners $0 more per electricity.

Glancing over your post history it is obvious why you are commenting  Roll Eyes  Don't like someone poking at your free hand out hu?

I don't have scrypt cloudmining or ASICs, I only do GPU mining and BTC cloudmining Tongue

I buy all my LTC and Doge in swaps Tongue

Anyways, your maths is wrong, it is under these figures from current to future block halvings:

21,812,400 per annum at 59,760 coins a day  Roll Eyes

43,624,800 per annum at 119,520 coins a day Roll Eyes

87,249,600 per annum at 239,040 coins a day Roll Eyes

So, why get so worked up Roll Eyes
legendary
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Wow, you really woke up on the wrong side of the bed Tongue

In an entire day, only 239,040 Doge are given out for blocks found, that quantity is going to have no effect on Doge's daily price Tongue

In 20 days, it goes down to 119,520. And, it is going to be halved again after that Grin

Your point dosen't make any sense, when 100 billion coins are in investors hands Grin

I'm on the right side of the bed.  

Tired of watching Litecoin leech off DOGE for nothing and act like they deserve something.

5.25 Billion coins per year for ever unless the DOGE devs step up and make the block reward 0 like it should have been (and was in the OP of this Bitcointalk.)

Give them only the fees that they deserve... it will still cost miners $0 more per electricity.

Glancing over your post history it is obvious why you are commenting  Roll Eyes  Don't like someone poking at your free hand out hu?
legendary
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And, who minds those lovely LTC miners getting a few Doge with their LTC Grin

Rofl you fucker!

Stop raping to DOGE please Tongue
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Wow, you really woke up on the wrong side of the bed Tongue

In an entire day, only 239,040 Doge are given out for blocks found, that quantity is going to have no effect on Doge's daily price Tongue

In 20 days, it goes down to 119,520. And, it is going to be halved again after that Grin

Your point dosen't make any sense, when 100 billion coins are in investors hands Grin
legendary
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Fees are irrelevant atm. You're essentially asking for the DOGE to be 100% dependent on LTC network (merge mining)

Isn't DOGE already being merge mined?

I'm saying they should get fees only once it gets to 100 billion with 0 block reward.

Old DOGE miners should only mine at the pool if the pool supports DOGE.  Then you dump whatever LTC you get (or whatever coin) and support DOGE.  The pools will continue to mine DOGE because they will earn:

A: Their cut off the top.
B: More power to the pool.
C: Good publicity.
D: They will get some DOGE to dump to support whatever coin is being mined.

It doesn't cost them anything anyways.

And, who minds those lovely LTC miners getting a few Doge with their LTC Grin

Rofl you fucker!

Stop raping to DOGE please Tongue
legendary
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Everyone knows that annual inflation in 5 billion was added to keep the miners and our network was strong, but it didn't work. The next step was the merger of mining Litecoin and that's great, now we are confident in the safety and strength of our network. I think that now would be reasonable to refuse a permanent inflation 5 billion coins or make it less, for example 1.2 billion(100 million per month). This measure will make our Dogecoin more attractive!

Agree. I would be in favour of reducing the final block reward by half by introducing another halving. It shouldn't do much damage to the hashing power and could have some positive effect on the price.

You could drop the block reward to 0 and let it spin on fees... Roll Eyes

Litecoin miners pay $0 per year more in electricity mining DOGE either way.  Any profit is better than no profit esp with LTC the price it is.

I've been saying this for a year now and I honestly think it would be best for DOGE in the short, medium and long term.

DOGE strength is in its users. The large mining pools should keep mining DOGE because the users will:

A:  Mine LTC.
B:  Tell their friends where to support DOGE.
C:  $0 a year anyways... Fucking mine that shit!

Anyone who is trying to talk DOGE into a block reward is either:

A:  A marketing person trying to run the show.
B:  A Litecoin person trying to take more than they are worth.
C:  Someone who is full of shit.

I really really hope DOGE drops it to 0.  I'd love to fire up the ole Doge wallet.

^ Bumping this thought.

Someone please!

Block reward 0! Stop letting the LTC dumpage rape you good hearted DOGE folks!

If you don't correct this ASAP it will be to late... it may already be, but damn it is worth a shot.

Let them spin the network via fees.

Fees are irrelevant atm. You're essentially asking for the DOGE to be 100% dependent on LTC network (merge mining)
legendary
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Everyone knows that annual inflation in 5 billion was added to keep the miners and our network was strong, but it didn't work. The next step was the merger of mining Litecoin and that's great, now we are confident in the safety and strength of our network. I think that now would be reasonable to refuse a permanent inflation 5 billion coins or make it less, for example 1.2 billion(100 million per month). This measure will make our Dogecoin more attractive!

Agree. I would be in favour of reducing the final block reward by half by introducing another halving. It shouldn't do much damage to the hashing power and could have some positive effect on the price.

You could drop the block reward to 0 and let it spin on fees... Roll Eyes

Litecoin miners pay $0 per year more in electricity mining DOGE either way.  Any profit is better than no profit esp with LTC the price it is.

I've been saying this for a year now and I honestly think it would be best for DOGE in the short, medium and long term.

DOGE strength is in its users. The large mining pools should keep mining DOGE because the users will:

A:  Mine LTC.
B:  Tell their friends where to support DOGE.
C:  $0 a year anyways... Fucking mine that shit!

Anyone who is trying to talk DOGE into a block reward is either:

A:  A marketing person trying to run the show.
B:  A Litecoin person trying to take more than they are worth.
C:  Someone who is full of shit.

I really really hope DOGE drops it to 0.  I'd love to fire up the ole Doge wallet.

^ Bumping this thought.

Someone please!

Block reward 0! Stop letting the LTC dumpage rape you good hearted DOGE folks!

If you don't correct this ASAP it will be to late... it may already be, but damn it is worth a shot.

Let them spin the network via fees.

Relax dude Shocked

There is block halving in 20 days Roll Eyes

And, who minds those lovely LTC miners getting a few Doge with their LTC Grin
legendary
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Everyone knows that annual inflation in 5 billion was added to keep the miners and our network was strong, but it didn't work. The next step was the merger of mining Litecoin and that's great, now we are confident in the safety and strength of our network. I think that now would be reasonable to refuse a permanent inflation 5 billion coins or make it less, for example 1.2 billion(100 million per month). This measure will make our Dogecoin more attractive!

Agree. I would be in favour of reducing the final block reward by half by introducing another halving. It shouldn't do much damage to the hashing power and could have some positive effect on the price.

You could drop the block reward to 0 and let it spin on fees... Roll Eyes

Litecoin miners pay $0 per year more in electricity mining DOGE either way.  Any profit is better than no profit esp with LTC the price it is.

I've been saying this for a year now and I honestly think it would be best for DOGE in the short, medium and long term.

DOGE strength is in its users. The large mining pools should keep mining DOGE because the users will:

A:  Mine LTC.
B:  Tell their friends where to support DOGE.
C:  $0 a year anyways... Fucking mine that shit!

Anyone who is trying to talk DOGE into a block reward is either:

A:  A marketing person trying to run the show.
B:  A Litecoin person trying to take more than they are worth.
C:  Someone who is full of shit.

I really really hope DOGE drops it to 0.  I'd love to fire up the ole Doge wallet.

^ Bumping this thought.

Someone please!

Block reward 0! Stop letting the LTC dumpage rape you good hearted DOGE folks!

If you don't correct this ASAP it will be to late... it may already be, but damn it is worth a shot.

Let them spin the network via fees.
sr. member
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Cant mine with radeon 4350  Cry

Can anyone send me some Doges?

DReaSd5n44LjmDynKuDfJZbVUYxwv838uF

Thanks!

https://chain.so/tx/DOGE/1550f3da1c266ab35295a6098891797e213ec102543dd39f98b01762e3dc98fd

Say thank you. 

Thank you man!!!

On this forum, threads about Dogecoin are probably the only place where money is given for no reasons Tongue
legendary
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Cant mine with radeon 4350  Cry

Can anyone send me some Doges?

DReaSd5n44LjmDynKuDfJZbVUYxwv838uF

Thanks!

https://chain.so/tx/DOGE/1550f3da1c266ab35295a6098891797e213ec102543dd39f98b01762e3dc98fd

Say thank you. 

Thank you man!!!

The Doge community has always been very generous. You could also try Freedoge.co.in faucet. I only have a laptop and it is impossible to mine Doge with that. FreeDoge.co.in gives you random amounts of coins every hour. I've managed to rack up 1600 Doge in about a week's time.
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