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Topic: [ANN][EAC] EarthCoin *SEEKING NEW EXCHANGES - HUGE VOLUMES BEING MISSED! - page 267. (Read 840369 times)

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* I owe you guys an apology, did my best to sign up here and be the intellectual I am without letting trolls or baiters get to me. Seems I have failed you miserably in that dept, and since signing up everyone on the team has unfortunately let a few things get to us to the point of reacting negatively when that goes against our golden rule in this environment, not be emo. So, I apologize for feeding the troll despite the temporary satisfaction I got.

* Reassurance: This is a true free market, I cannot offer guarantees or reassurances, I cannot predict a low, I cannot expect you guys to simply be pacified when the price drops no matter what I or the team say.

WesandEAC has given you guys the most valuable info you'll read in this thread, I'd re-read it - I cannot (as much as I'd like to) promise that this or that will happen re value or price. What I CAN say is, the team is doing everything they can to keep moving forward. Critics? Trolls? Delays? Flashdumps? Fear that we're not updating the thread 20 times a day? Not going to stop us. Price of btc drops by half or more there is nobody to run to, same here, we cannot control the price, YOU collectively control the price much more than we can. You're all in for a long journey, or you're gone before giving it the time and respect it deserves and doing your part. I am a trader as well, I understand your woe's, I'm also concerned with our efforts going to waste while still gunning forward however it's all for a calculated risk of a BIG win in many ways downstream. That and all members of the team are use to waiting for our investments to grow and mature, so it's not hard to simply 'keep working' and not let these dips scare us into a frenzy. We understand that's not how everyone trades or works, however it's important for the core team to have this vision, and we do.

* Coming Up Next: The devs responsible for the device apps are working on them, beta testing, creating final files, etc.

* We have an iPad version also coming out now for one of the apps (I don't want to speak for them re timelines so I'll say (bigvern voice) 'soon').

Thank you.

well. you don't need to apologize, or do you?
everyone said... blaaa longterm. everyone said that we have goals.
are we a bunch of idiots whishing for a miracle?
I mean. there are some really really serious coins on the way, like zerocoin, keisercoin... when they come; they have supporters, they have already what it takes. they win.

I understand, that I cannot expect quantom-leaps from a young startup. but that is what it takes to survife!

I have around 500000 eac. some bought at 800, some bought at 450, some bought at 150satoshi. so.
I feel absolut uncomfortable not because I didn't win money, but because I see how hard the market is and what features are needed to be a good coin!
Even the bad coins have proper names in their wallets, proper webpages and they have a businessplan!
I would love to see your Businessplan, even if it is per PM or Email or Pidgen... something!
This is the hardest business you can find and you start making me nervous, because you apologize!

If I was a chinese, i would click on the Webpage. Hm. Ok, 4 Weeks old.
I would listen to social media! (...)
I would love to see a roadmap!

My Advice: Make an inner Circle with the Dev-Team + a few from the Community. And work on a businessplan. If this is longterm you need help! And sitting on 200.000.000 eac wont help you...
Give me a Job for Europe/Germany/270 million german speaking customers in the world and I can do that part of the plan, but dont do our things behind the curtain... that wont be enough when keisercoin, zerocoin oder wallstreetcoin are coming for an impact!
  
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The 5X payout day is coming . EAC will drop to 50-30 . Its a good thing though , after that EAC touch the real bottom and stop falling . New investors will start buying and EAC will take off from there .
I don't think it'll drop down that low. I think 100 satoshi is the lowest

Think again, it shed 75% of its high from when it launched on coinedup. Then it hits cryptsy and sheds another 50% of its value in just the last 24 hours. You really think after all that carnage and freefall it is all upside from here. I hope for the folks that "bet the farm" on it, that is true. I think it will fall much much more over the coming weeks. I asked myself, if I dump all my coins at avg 225 and then it skyrockets how will I feel, then I asked myself if I hold these lead weights and it falls way way down and I can't get out how will I feel. I decided it would be worse to be upside down than to get out with at least a tiny profit so I sold all between 210-245.  I made the right call, thank goodness!

1) it's obvious that you are frustrated.
2) it's obvious that you are totally inexperienced.
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To begin, why the need for labels?  Just because some of the first initiatives in here were to save the animals and plant forests, all of a sudden, everyone is a tree hugger?  There's not a single person who would hear the word profit and run away from it in this thread.  That would just be downright silly.  But you have to have belief and support behind a product, or else it fails.  All things have a beginning, maybe it starts small with green initiatives.  But when a snowball effect starts to happen, that's when you see things pick up pace.

One thing that you may need to re-evaluate is that you're downplaying the importance of a legitimate establishment or business accepting Earthcoin as a currency.  Earthcoin is now also accepted through Coin Payments.  Are these not business-like activities?

I'll be happy when Earthcoin reaches its true potential, then of course doubt will dissipate and I hope it makes people happy.  Unfortunately, it won't get rid of the negativity, because then everyone who doubted the coin and left will be angry that they didn't stay and more than likely return to whine because they dumped.  We'll see what happens when we get there.

Point taken.

Lets sit and wait Smiley

Well played. Both of you. I'm not sure where the "tree hugger" thing came from. I'm guessing because one of the pools is operating a charity?

At any rate, those sort of initiatives generate publicity, and as Phineas Taylor Barnum famously noted, that's never bad.

The dev's have posted a lot of solid ideas, and appear to be working hard on those ideas behind the scenes. That, from the very beginning, is why I think this coin has more potential than most. Even though it's become somewhat established, probably by virtue of being the first Scrypt coin, litecoin has really gone nowhere in real world acceptance. Earthcoin could. It's name is catchy, the dev's want to take it mainstream, and it has an interesting and inter5ested community. Let's give this some time, thought, and support.

I don't see the sudden dump on acceptance at Cryptsy as any sort of sign in itself. It seems to happen with every coin that gets listed. In the short term, it's disappointing. As any sort of long term marker, I'd call it simply a milestone in the development. Many, if not most, of the early adopters are trying to turn a quick buck. Nothing wrong with that, but it does nothing for the coin in the long run except establish that it can be traded for other currency. When we get it trading for goods and services, THAT is when it will matter. And that is when exchange prices will rise the most steadily and keep their gains the best.

But to be completely realistic, think for  a minute. You are a store and you decide you are going to take the big step and accept one of these new fangled crypto currencies everyone is talking about. Do you think you would accept the number 1 coin out there, as in btc, or would you accept a brand new coin, one among the hundreds of unknown coins just getting started, with no history, no track record and that bled off almost all its value in a few days? Seriously, there are sooo many established coins  in front of eac that will be accepted loooong before eac. Even most of those coins will not become commonly accepted coins.  Yes there is always the chance you can hit the lottery, I would think winning the lotto is a lot more likely than for eac to beat out ALL these other coins in front of it. Don't you really?
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Wasn't it determined that the online "instant-wallet" was a scam?  What about the Gaia game?

I wonder how many of the coins being dumped were stolen coins.
I never thought of that. That may very well be true
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Wasn't it determined that the online "instant-wallet" was a scam?  What about the Gaia game?

I wonder how many of the coins being dumped were stolen coins.
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The 5X payout day is coming . EAC will drop to 50-30 . Its a good thing though , after that EAC touch the real bottom and stop falling . New investors will start buying and EAC will take off from there .
I don't think it'll drop down that low. I think 100 satoshi is the lowest

Think again, it shed 75% of its high from when it launched on coinedup. Then it hits cryptsy and sheds another 50% of its value in just the last 24 hours. You really think after all that carnage and freefall it is all upside from here. I hope for the folks that "bet the farm" on it, that is true. I think it will fall much much more over the coming weeks. I asked myself, if I dump all my coins at avg 225 and then it skyrockets how will I feel, then I asked myself if I hold these lead weights and it falls way way down and I can't get out how will I feel. I decided it would be worse to be upside down than to get out with at least a tiny profit so I sold all between 210-245.  I made the right call, thank goodness!
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Anarchy is not chaos.

To begin, why the need for labels?  Just because some of the first initiatives in here were to save the animals and plant forests, all of a sudden, everyone is a tree hugger?  There's not a single person who would hear the word profit and run away from it in this thread.  That would just be downright silly.  But you have to have belief and support behind a product, or else it fails.  All things have a beginning, maybe it starts small with green initiatives.  But when a snowball effect starts to happen, that's when you see things pick up pace.

One thing that you may need to re-evaluate is that you're downplaying the importance of a legitimate establishment or business accepting Earthcoin as a currency.  Earthcoin is now also accepted through Coin Payments.  Are these not business-like activities?

I'll be happy when Earthcoin reaches its true potential, then of course doubt will dissipate and I hope it makes people happy.  Unfortunately, it won't get rid of the negativity, because then everyone who doubted the coin and left will be angry that they didn't stay and more than likely return to whine because they dumped.  We'll see what happens when we get there.

Point taken.

Lets sit and wait Smiley

Well played. Both of you. I'm not sure where the "tree hugger" thing came from. I'm guessing because one of the pools is operating a charity?

At any rate, those sort of initiatives generate publicity, and as Phineas Taylor Barnum famously noted, that's never bad.

The dev's have posted a lot of solid ideas, and appear to be working hard on those ideas behind the scenes. That, from the very beginning, is why I think this coin has more potential than most. Even though it's become somewhat established, probably by virtue of being the first Scrypt coin, litecoin has really gone nowhere in real world acceptance. Earthcoin could. It's name is catchy, the dev's want to take it mainstream, and it has an interesting and inter5ested community. Let's give this some time, thought, and support.

I don't see the sudden dump on acceptance at Cryptsy as any sort of sign in itself. It seems to happen with every coin that gets listed. In the short term, it's disappointing. As any sort of long term marker, I'd call it simply a milestone in the development. Many, if not most, of the early adopters are trying to turn a quick buck. Nothing wrong with that, but it does nothing for the coin in the long run except establish that it can be traded for other currency. When we get it trading for goods and services, THAT is when it will matter. And that is when exchange prices will rise the most steadily and keep their gains the best.
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The 5X payout day is coming . EAC will drop to 50-30 . Its a good thing though , after that EAC touch the real bottom and stop falling . New investors will start buying and EAC will take off from there .

Well it would be good for the holders if it would find its floor, however falling is never a good thing. Ask the miners and investers over at 42 coin if they would want their coin to fall. I missed that launch, too bad. I thought it sounded stupid, only 42 coins, but what happened, they launched and within a day they got themselves on cryptsy and the coin has only went up! It is now I think at 300% or more of its launch price, and that is after it has fallen of its high of 1000% gains since launch. THAT IS HOW YOU GET A COIN NOTICED EAC DEV' AND SUPPORTERS WHO WANTED TO KEEP EAC UNDER A ROCK HIDDEN FROM VIEW!!  I bet none of the people mining it or the people buying it would want the price to fall, WHY? because that would lose them money, and losing money is bad. It is NEVER EVER  a good thing for a price to plummet and freefall. I know, I know a lot of the delusionals are trying to say that the more money this coin bleeds the better it is. I can't help those with that kind of mindset.
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The 5X payout day is coming . EAC will drop to 50-30 . Its a good thing though , after that EAC touch the real bottom and stop falling . New investors will start buying and EAC will take off from there .
I don't think it'll drop down that low. I think 100 satoshi is the lowest
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The 5X payout day is coming . EAC will drop to 50-30 . Its a good thing though , after that EAC touch the real bottom and stop falling . New investors will start buying and EAC will take off from there .
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if someone is so generous to donate to my wallet some EarthCoins. i only have 0,18 till know. Dont know where to collect them, there is only one faucet that i know.
My computer is old so i can't mine them. Thank you

eWKyvwRPi1LCnfjqHWZcFQE1sVH15a6V11

I think they may have a carrot faucet somewhere.  Grin
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if someone is so generous to donate to my wallet some EarthCoins. i only have 0,18 till know. Dont know where to collect them, there is only one faucet that i know.
My computer is old so i can't mine them. Thank you

eWKyvwRPi1LCnfjqHWZcFQE1sVH15a6V11
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Continue the good work on this coin! I'm holding.
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Pump accomplished and buy walls disappear again. People keep falling for it over and over.

That was me buying @ 120, I wanted the coins at this ridiculously low price. :-)

 Buy this evening at 100, that way you can average down your 120 buyin down to 110.  That will help ease the pain of the 120 buy.  Grin
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Are you all really that worried?  Haha, this is fascinating to me, I wonder where the floor is.

I would assume around 1 or 2 satoshis. It won't go much lower than that .

~100 satoshi I think the price will stabilize for a while
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To buy in or not to buy in before I go to sleep, that is the question Tongue

The price will be lower in the morning so hang on  Smiley

Yeah I thought the same, holding 2 BTC waiting to get back in Smiley
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To buy in or not to buy in before I go to sleep, that is the question Tongue

The price will be lower in the morning so hang on  Smiley
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Are you all really that worried?  Haha, this is fascinating to me, I wonder where the floor is.

I would assume around 1 or 2 satoshis. It won't go much lower than that .
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I did a bit of research into the premine and thought I'd share it with people because I found it pretty interesting...

A lot of the premine hasn't been spent or even claimed! It's been sent to addresses that haven't even received it yet.

All of these examples have been taken by following block 1 (with 270,000,000 premine in) through all the transactions until the end of the chain.

First 50m
Second 50m
40m Unclaimed (the ~10m output ends up unredeemed)
Third 50m
Some 18.5m unclaimed

There are a few more:
~15m
5m #1
5m #2
~4m
2.5m

This all tallies up to a massive 240,000,000 of the original 270,000,000 premine that hasn't even been touched yet.

One thing I got from this is that it isn't the dev that's dumping... Most of the transactions leading up to the last one with the unclaimed amounts were small amounts that looked like giveaways with a few bigger transactions of a couple million to what could be personal accounts (and one exchange where it had a LOT of inputs/outputs).

The only bad thing that you could perhaps take from this is that only 30,000,000 out of the 270,000,000 has been spent (on giveaways and perhaps some on personal too, I have no way of knowing what was given out and what's been kept/moved around by dev etc obviously).

Thought it was interesting and would share with you guys.

Disclaimer: This is all my own research and opinion, draw your own conclusions from it.
Edit: Could also have missed some transactions in my search so that more is unclaimed than I have stated


Interesting research.   I would like to inject though that we cannot assume that the 240M are even in Dev control anymore.  We simply just don't know.   A big portion of those coins could have already been ear-marked for behind the scenes activities.  Such as share-holders.  Deposits on future infrastructure etc etc.   I would like to assume that core devs themselves are hoping to hold onto a 'large' portion of the premine themselves as this showcases extremely passionate long-term optimism.  
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