FYI i´m just about to put up todays giveaway, this time: [GIVEAWAY#2][EAC][EARTHCOIN] 300 EAC to the first 50 people.
will do a smaller one later in the newbie section as well.
Topic: [ANN][EAC] EarthCoin *SEEKING NEW EXCHANGES - HUGE VOLUMES BEING MISSED! - page 337. (Read 840369 times)
January 09, 2014, 02:31:51 PM
January 09, 2014, 02:30:53 PM
I 've said it once , this coin has 20 days of life.
when you open a business, you begin to feel your questions about the continuation of the work already after 20 days ?
when you open a business, you think back on your investment in less than 20 days ?
I believe that many of you here, do not have the slightest idea of what is the world of work and enterprise and how it works.
certainly in this area is all about fast, extremely fast, but 20 days are nothing. unless you 're those in the forex world we call " scalpers " , which are small investors who enter and leave the market in a matter of minutes, hours, or at most a day.
people who normally loses all his capital in the first month of activity.
I repeat for the umpteenth time , do not be afraid of the price now . like all other currencies , this is " a gamble " in the future .
no one can know how this money will go , but we all know that the foundations are solid , the project is valid and many people are actively working to develop it.
the miners are not traders and rightly should fall at least the cost of energy , but energy costs are part of the investment that they, too, is done in time, so do not be impatient to cash in now , because you run the risk to collect a tenth of what you could collect maybe between 2 months or 6 months or 1 year .
welcome to the world of personal business
welcome to the world of personal risk
when you open a business, you begin to feel your questions about the continuation of the work already after 20 days ?
when you open a business, you think back on your investment in less than 20 days ?
I believe that many of you here, do not have the slightest idea of what is the world of work and enterprise and how it works.
certainly in this area is all about fast, extremely fast, but 20 days are nothing. unless you 're those in the forex world we call " scalpers " , which are small investors who enter and leave the market in a matter of minutes, hours, or at most a day.
people who normally loses all his capital in the first month of activity.
I repeat for the umpteenth time , do not be afraid of the price now . like all other currencies , this is " a gamble " in the future .
no one can know how this money will go , but we all know that the foundations are solid , the project is valid and many people are actively working to develop it.
the miners are not traders and rightly should fall at least the cost of energy , but energy costs are part of the investment that they, too, is done in time, so do not be impatient to cash in now , because you run the risk to collect a tenth of what you could collect maybe between 2 months or 6 months or 1 year .
welcome to the world of personal business
welcome to the world of personal risk
January 09, 2014, 02:26:08 PM
I too mine, but have not sold yet any coins. I just think their price should be higher in order for me to sell them. I believe that you need to hold on to coins until the price is right. I would never just mine - dump - mine - dump. You can earn so much more if you just hold on a bit longer.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
That is what I have been doing, I saw them at 800 early on Coinedup but decided to hold for better price. Now I see that decision as a mistake. The bad thing now is, that the price is so low it might be better to just hold them and gamble on them rising in price. I hope they do soar one day. I think this coin is the best coin launched in the last month. It should be much higher than it is.
so, from what you are saying i understand that you're sorry you didn't dump earlier? dev team said in advance that there will be rolling hills, and that the coin is planned for the long term. but your main reason of discouragement is that it didn't brought you profit regardless? maybe you're in the wrong thread?
and one more thing, i'm a miner too, i too have costs and need to return my investment. did'nt stop me from mining some tens of thousands eac and put them away, and then switch to another coin to return the costs in the meantime. so that whole argument of "Sorry but i need to return my costs so i'm dumping this coin" is pretty much irrelevant in the light of the dev team statements and the 240 plus pages of this community. treat this coin seriously, please.
So then who is more valuable to the success of eac, someone who mines the whole time or someone who mines for a bit and jumps ship? If it wasn't for miners, eac would not survive. If everyone would only mine a few thousand and then leave for other coins, there would not be very many in circulation compared to a miner who mines eac everyday and dumps them on the market. That provides the volume. Bottom line is there is noone here who would not dump their coins for the right price, so each person knows what the right price is for themselves. If anyone bashes anyone else for selling then they are hypocritical because everyone would dump if the price went high enough.
that would be a valid arguement if i had some crazy rigs with high hashrate and the budget and free time to do this. but i don't . and i allowed myself to mine eac for a week and then "jump ship" but still be here and follow up on the thread. sorry if that disappoints you. but when this argument is coming from someone who planned to dump at the first sign of profit, it pretty much set my conscious at ease.
and by the way, i will continue to mine earthcoin at least a 25%-50% of my time. feel free to tell me i "jump ship" everytime i point my mining rig at another coin.
January 09, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
If people buy at low prices is because people want to sell it at a high prices, i think...
January 09, 2014, 02:16:06 PM
I too mine, but have not sold yet any coins. I just think their price should be higher in order for me to sell them. I believe that you need to hold on to coins until the price is right. I would never just mine - dump - mine - dump. You can earn so much more if you just hold on a bit longer.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
That is what I have been doing, I saw them at 800 early on Coinedup but decided to hold for better price. Now I see that decision as a mistake. The bad thing now is, that the price is so low it might be better to just hold them and gamble on them rising in price. I hope they do soar one day. I think this coin is the best coin launched in the last month. It should be much higher than it is.
so, from what you are saying i understand that you're sorry you didn't dump earlier? dev team said in advance that there will be rolling hills, and that the coin is planned for the long term. but your main reason of discouragement is that it didn't brought you profit regardless? maybe you're in the wrong thread?
and one more thing, i'm a miner too, i too have costs and need to return my investment. did'nt stop me from mining some tens of thousands eac and put them away, and then switch to another coin to return the costs in the meantime. so that whole argument of "Sorry but i need to return my costs so i'm dumping this coin" is pretty much irrelevant in the light of the dev team statements and the 240 plus pages of this community. treat this coin seriously, please.
So then who is more valuable to the success of eac, someone who mines the whole time or someone who mines for a bit and jumps ship? If it wasn't for miners, eac would not survive. If everyone would only mine a few thousand and then leave for other coins, there would not be very many in circulation compared to a miner who mines eac everyday and dumps them on the market. That provides the volume. Bottom line is there is noone here who would not dump their coins for the right price, so each person knows what the right price is for themselves. If anyone bashes anyone else for selling then they are hypocritical because everyone would dump if the price went high enough.
January 09, 2014, 02:13:02 PM
it seems the only important exchange all around the world is Crypsy.
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
Answer - Volume. it doesn't matter if cryptsy is buggy and laggy (which it is, sometimes) what's matter is that more people use it than coinex or coinedup. when eac gets there it will be available to a larger crowd. that's it. nothing else.
volume, doesn't automatically mean that prices will rise....
for my experience, it's alwais opposite....
price is not the issue with a two weeks old coin who has a long term plan and dedicated dev team. you and i know that. cryptsy and its volume is just another first step of a young coin. and that's about it for now.
Edit: but is a necessary step? no, you are right about that. but it sure helps if we get listed.
January 09, 2014, 02:09:40 PM
I too mine, but have not sold yet any coins. I just think their price should be higher in order for me to sell them. I believe that you need to hold on to coins until the price is right. I would never just mine - dump - mine - dump. You can earn so much more if you just hold on a bit longer.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
That is what I have been doing, I saw them at 800 early on Coinedup but decided to hold for better price. Now I see that decision as a mistake. The bad thing now is, that the price is so low it might be better to just hold them and gamble on them rising in price. I hope they do soar one day. I think this coin is the best coin launched in the last month. It should be much higher than it is.
so, from what you are saying i understand that you're sorry you didn't dump earlier? dev team said in advance that there will be rolling hills, and that the coin is planned for the long term. but your main reason of discouragement is that it didn't brought you profit regardless? maybe you're in the wrong thread?
and one more thing, i'm a miner too, i too have costs and need to return my investment. did'nt stop me from mining some tens of thousands eac and put them away, and then switch to another coin to return the costs in the meantime. so that whole argument of "Sorry but i need to return my costs so i'm dumping this coin" is pretty much irrelevant in the light of the dev team statements and the 240 plus pages of this community. treat this coin seriously, please.
January 09, 2014, 02:07:08 PM
@AtlantisPlatform
I'm not going to quote your whole analogy, but suffice to say that if the businessman had an 80% chance of a major new market for mattresses opening up in the very short term then risk/reward would be firmly on his side. But as I said, your money your choice. Dump at 200 Satoshis and good luck to you.
I'm not going to quote your whole analogy, but suffice to say that if the businessman had an 80% chance of a major new market for mattresses opening up in the very short term then risk/reward would be firmly on his side. But as I said, your money your choice. Dump at 200 Satoshis and good luck to you.
January 09, 2014, 02:05:18 PM
it seems the only important exchange all around the world is Crypsy.
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
apparently everyone thinks when EAC appears on cryptsy the value will somehow magically go to thousands so they will be finally able to dump with profit.... its really pathetic that sucess of this coin is in people´s minds determined with being or not being in cryptsy.... if anyone would want to trade EAC they have much opportunity to do so... either on coinedup which is same slow crap as cryptsy(altough not so fancy looking) or on coinex which is much much faster and reliable than cryptsy... so i really dont understand why on earth cryptsy should be such game-changing element
January 09, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
it seems the only important exchange all around the world is Crypsy.
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
Answer - Volume. it doesn't matter if cryptsy is buggy and laggy (which it is, sometimes) what's matter is that more people use it than coinex or coinedup. when eac gets there it will be available to a larger crowd. that's it. nothing else.
volume, doesn't automatically mean that prices will rise....
for my experience, it's alwais opposite....
January 09, 2014, 02:00:23 PM
I too mine, but have not sold yet any coins. I just think their price should be higher in order for me to sell them. I believe that you need to hold on to coins until the price is right. I would never just mine - dump - mine - dump. You can earn so much more if you just hold on a bit longer.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
That is what I have been doing, I saw them at 800 early on Coinedup but decided to hold for better price. Now I see that decision as a mistake. The bad thing now is, that the price is so low it might be better to just hold them and gamble on them rising in price. I hope they do soar one day. I think this coin is the best coin launched in the last month. It should be much higher than it is.
January 09, 2014, 01:59:42 PM
As we don't get the latest news from the dev team, we have to do some research by our self and ask the right people via messages and skype.
The ones that also got the private message know now what to do.
Very sad all this.
The ones that also got the private message know now what to do.
Very sad all this.
I was on yesterday and there was a dev post about the phone app. The day before, there was a post about crypsty, pretty much when I'm online, I see a dev posting. What other "latest news" are you looking for?
January 09, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Whats the difference if the coin is premined 2% or hashraped to the same amount by a huge hashfarm on launch....makes no difference whatsoever....the little guys are still the ones left to prop the coin up.
the premine talks makes me lol every time.....don't premine!!....but give away 1 mill coins for free...etc...comical.
the premine talks makes me lol every time.....don't premine!!....but give away 1 mill coins for free...etc...comical.
That!
+1
January 09, 2014, 01:58:45 PM
As we don't get the latest news from the dev team, we have to do some research by our self and ask the right people via messages and skype.
The ones that also got the private message know now what to do.
Very sad all this.
The ones that also got the private message know now what to do.
Very sad all this.
We are not keeping any 'latest news' from anyone, there is nothing important or major to report and I don't believe in blind/pointless hype.
When there is news you guys will be the first to know.
Why assume things?
January 09, 2014, 01:55:54 PM
it seems the only important exchange all around the world is Crypsy.
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
Answer - Volume. it doesn't matter if cryptsy is buggy and laggy (which it is, sometimes) what's matter is that more people use it than coinex or coinedup. when eac gets there it will be available to a larger crowd. that's it. nothing else.
January 09, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
As we don't get the latest news from the dev team, we have to do some research by our self and ask the right people via messages and skype.
The ones that also got the private message know now what to do.
Very sad all this.
The ones that also got the private message know now what to do.
Very sad all this.
January 09, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
Whats the difference if the coin is premined 2% or hashraped to the same amount by a huge hashfarm on launch....makes no difference whatsoever....the little guys are still the ones left to prop the coin up.
the premine talks makes me lol every time.....don't premine!!....but give away 1 mill coins for free...etc...comical.
the premine talks makes me lol every time.....don't premine!!....but give away 1 mill coins for free...etc...comical.
January 09, 2014, 01:52:10 PM
I too mine, but have not sold yet any coins. I just think their price should be higher in order for me to sell them. I believe that you need to hold on to coins until the price is right. I would never just mine - dump - mine - dump. You can earn so much more if you just hold on a bit longer.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
But I too need to get back what I invested. So it is a though call.
At the end of the day, I will hold on to my EACs for better days. And hope that things stabilize and EAC will climb to its true value.
January 09, 2014, 01:48:50 PM
You might regret selling now if it hits Cryptsy today, tomorrow, or whenever "soon".
This coin only goes down, it is a great coin but it only moves down, never up. I think the reason it is going down is a lot of us miners are deciding to dump our coins to help defray the cost of mining because it looks like it is never going to be on cryptsy. If it doesn't get listed on Cryptsy within 12 hours I am dumping all my coins I have mined since day 1. I have watched this thing fall from 800 to 200, enuogh is enough. Too bad since it looks to be one of the best new coins out there. Not to be an ass about it (well maybe a little bit) but if you have to dump everything at whatever low price you can get to defray your mining costs, your mining operation isn't on a sound footing to start with, and you might want to re-think what you're doing.
Do you know how stupid that sounds??? Not to sound like an ass, (well maybe a little bit) So if you mine a coin for a week and see the coin having troubles and price dropping so you decide to liquidate to recoup mining costs, how does that have anything to do with overall operation. A smart man moves on to more profitable coins. Just like a real world business, if a certain part of it is losing money the business may get rid of the losing part and do something else, IT HAS NO BEARING ON BEING ON STABLE FOOTING TO START WITH, THAT IS HOW A BUSINESS STAYS ON SOUND FOOTING IS TO DUMP LOSING AREAS AND WORK IN THE PROFITABLE ONES. What person in their right mind (and I am assuming your not by your response) would keep on a course that will run their business into the red?
When you factor in the high cost of setting up a mining rig (4-5k usd), you can't afford to wait around in this volatile market. Get what you can. You can't afford to speculate. "not being on sound footing". That's pretty ridiculous. Makes no sense. Most miners don't mine to hold. Miners get market value for it. It's up to others to speculate. Hasn't it alwasy been like this? Miners assume less risks; but less reward. Investors assume high risks; but high reward.
What would I know, I only run 10 rigs @ 6 x 7950 GPUs each for close to 40MH/s. Guess I got there by having no clue what I'm doing. You remind me of the guys dumping LOT at 10-15 right before it listed at Cryptsy and they could have sold for 4-5x that. But hey, go for it. Your money.
Well in answer to the first part of your question, not much obviously. And savvy business sense is not dependent on how many machines a person has. So let me ask you, Mr Speedy, a question so I may drink from your well of knowledge and hopefully learn something. Let's suppose you have a home furnishings store, actually lets say 10 home furnishing stores, since you like to compare business savvy with x amount of something. Ok, now your stores sell couches, tables , chairs etc. Your business is very profitable and has been for years. So you decide to try a new area, mattresses. Well after a while of selling mattresses you see that they are always losing money, you hang in there for awhile but after seeing that they just never produce profi,t you decide to get rid of the loser mattresses by holding a sale and liquidating them. Problem solved right? But wait, suddenly your banker shows up, let's call him Mr Speedybanker, he tells you that since you decided to pull the plug on the unprofitable mattress division that your business must not have been on "stable footing" to begin with and calls in all your loans on your business. Mr Speedy the banker kind of sounds like you and has the same amount of common sense as you, doesn't he Mr 10 rigs@ 6 7950 gpuman?
January 09, 2014, 01:44:36 PM
it seems the only important exchange all around the world is Crypsy.
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
hahahahahaahah
i know cryptsy and i work on that exchange, but....
BigVern must to make lot of road, before call his site a real serious exchange.
take a look to Avatrader, or CMC markets, or Activtrades for know what really is an exchange.
crypsty, like coinedup and coinex, are 3 little reality in this world.
with many problem in different areas, and expecially for cryptsy, very very slow, that is the worst thing can happen in a online exchange.
so why all people seems disperated because EAC isn't in cryptsy yet?
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