Looks promising thus far...
Dev seems to work hard!
I am a supporter and fellow dutchman
Topic: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden - NEWS! - ANDROID WALLET AVAILABLE! - page 47. (Read 106061 times)
March 22, 2014, 05:26:25 PM
March 22, 2014, 08:02:34 PM
Honestly the same crap all over again. The dev is putting a lot of effort in it. Furthermore he is working with a team and none of us knows how big and organized that team/group is, so you can't make such arguments.
Though I am pleased to see the announcement on such short notice, meaning that I don't believe it will be a scam. There's no way that EFL is able to grow that insanely fast within a week
Though I am pleased to see the announcement on such short notice, meaning that I don't believe it will be a scam. There's no way that EFL is able to grow that insanely fast within a week
It doesn't matter how big the team is, it will take them 4375 business days to send the pre-mine to the 420,000 families.
And if you believe he can find 12 idiots who work for free for a whole year (!) to do that (even in the weekends), I don't think you did the reality check for this coin.
I think is not neccesary 5 minutes to check each request, 1 minutes is ok. So 900 business days, between 10 people = 3 months. And you can contract a team from the India for example working for that at 3$ / hour, I have people working for me at this price.
March 22, 2014, 07:35:26 PM
Honestly the same crap all over again. The dev is putting a lot of effort in it. Furthermore he is working with a team and none of us knows how big and organized that team/group is, so you can't make such arguments.
Though I am pleased to see the announcement on such short notice, meaning that I don't believe it will be a scam. There's no way that EFL is able to grow that insanely fast within a week
Though I am pleased to see the announcement on such short notice, meaning that I don't believe it will be a scam. There's no way that EFL is able to grow that insanely fast within a week
It doesn't matter how big the team is, it will take them 4375 business days to send the pre-mine to the 420,000 families.
And if you believe he can find 12 idiots who work for free for a whole year (!) to do that (even in the weekends), I don't think you did the reality check for this coin.
March 22, 2014, 07:30:49 PM
Honestly the same crap all over again. The dev is putting a lot of effort in it. Furthermore he is working with a team and none of us knows how big and organized that team/group is, so you can't make such arguments.
Though I am pleased to see the announcement on such short notice, meaning that I don't believe it will be a scam. There's no way that EFL is able to grow that insanely fast within a week
Though I am pleased to see the announcement on such short notice, meaning that I don't believe it will be a scam. There's no way that EFL is able to grow that insanely fast within a week
March 22, 2014, 07:11:55 PM
10 points for your Dutch edu91. I thought about it for a bit but I decided not to comment on this coin. Its no use.
March 22, 2014, 06:40:38 PM
@magnet , u could be right.. Or wrong. Definetly depends how big the team is and how much pressure they have. I dont think all 420k households will redeem their coin right away. They did state other bills besides utility are also allowed
420,000 households X 5 minutes time = 2,100,000 minutes.
Do you think the dev has a team that can spend 4375 office-days on spreading a premine? Lol... Do you know what that would cost to hire a team to do that? If he did it alone, every day, 7 days a week for 8 hours a day it would cost him over 11 years to do so.
If he hires one or more people to do it, even at 10$ an hour it would cost him 350,000$ to spread the coins.
Do you know what it costs to reach 420,000 families, in the first place?
It just won't happen.
Reality check... Wake up...
The website and OP aren't even in Dutch... Why English if you create a coin for Dutch people?
I like the logo though.
March 22, 2014, 06:23:21 PM
Are you going to do something IRL? Consider having some people stand in the center of Amsterdam and hand out paper wallets with EFL or something like that. What bothers me about this coin is the 50% premine. I am not sure if you will actually give that to citizens or you are going to use that to make yourself rich.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
There will be no "airdrop". Do you know what it takes to spread 10,500,000 EFL over 420,000 people? Lol...
Dev will "airdrop" the premine on an exchange and run away with the BTC.
There is no way to check if the "team" really sent those premined coins to the citizens of Holland.
Nobody in the Netherlands is interested in an "airdrop" of this coin anyway.
Utilitybill? Lol... We get them once a year...
25 EFL each? Lol... You think people will share their identity (with a dev that doesn't identify himself) for a measly 25 EFL with a streetvalue of € 0.05?
This is a pump & dump scam, nothing more... Don't fall for it...
You could say the same for any of these "country" coins... I'm guessing you have a stake in a different one and are just trying to steer people away from this one right?
I have stake in many coins, like many of us have.
People just need a reality check.
Do you really think the 10,500,000 premine of this coin will be spread over 420,000 families in the Netherlands? Do you really think people will do that for a measly 25 EFL, worth € 0.05 ?
Do you know what it takes to do that? Lol... I did giveaways to 100-300 people on this very forum and it cost me many hours to do so.
Imagine 420.000 people... Even if it would take only 5 minutes each to check the proof or residence and send the coins, it would take 2,100,000 minutes of work... That's 1458 days, without sleep... (24/7)... It won't happen, ever!...
And in Holland we don't get utility bills every month, so 2 utility bills with a max of 3 months old is science fiction. We have advance payments every month and at the end of the year we get a utility bill with how much to pay / or receive, depending on how much energy we used.
Mark my words:
- E-Gulden hits a "large" exchange
- block explorer convieniently "breaks down"
- dev dumps the pre-mine
- profit
- you stay behind with a worthless coin
If I'm wrong I'll be the first to say so. See you guys in a month.
March 22, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
Are you going to do something IRL? Consider having some people stand in the center of Amsterdam and hand out paper wallets with EFL or something like that. What bothers me about this coin is the 50% premine. I am not sure if you will actually give that to citizens or you are going to use that to make yourself rich.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
There will be no "airdrop". Do you know what it takes to spread 10,500,000 EFL over 420,000 people? Lol...
Dev will "airdrop" the premine on an exchange and run away with the BTC.
There is no way to check if the "team" really sent those premined coins to the citizens of Holland.
Nobody in the Netherlands is interested in an "airdrop" of this coin anyway.
Utilitybill? Lol... We get them once a year...
25 EFL each? Lol... You think people will share their identity (with a dev that doesn't identify himself) for a measly 25 EFL with a streetvalue of € 0.05?
This is a pump & dump scam, nothing more... Don't fall for it...
You could say the same for any of these "country" coins... I'm guessing you have a stake in a different one and are just trying to steer people away from this one right?
March 22, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
Looks promising thus far...
Dev seems to work hard!
I am a supporter and fellow dutchman
Dev seems to work hard!
I am a supporter and fellow dutchman
Dan zou je beter moeten weten.
Ze gaan echt niet 420,000 gezinnen hun coins sturen.
De dev gooit de blockexplorer tijdelijk plat met een mooie "error", dumpt z'n premine op een exchange en je hoort er nooit meer wat van.
March 22, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
Are you going to do something IRL? Consider having some people stand in the center of Amsterdam and hand out paper wallets with EFL or something like that. What bothers me about this coin is the 50% premine. I am not sure if you will actually give that to citizens or you are going to use that to make yourself rich.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
There will be no "airdrop". Do you know what it takes to spread 10,500,000 EFL over 420,000 people? Lol...
Dev will "airdrop" the premine on an exchange and run away with the BTC.
There is no way to check if the "team" really sent those premined coins to the citizens of Holland.
Nobody in the Netherlands is interested in an "airdrop" of this coin anyway.
Utilitybill? Lol... We get them once a year...
25 EFL each? Lol... You think people will share their identity (with a dev that doesn't identify himself) for a measly 25 EFL with a streetvalue of € 0.05?
This is a pump & dump scam, nothing more... Don't fall for it...
March 22, 2014, 05:39:59 PM
Really liking this . devs putting lots of work in this since launch. Got my miners on this but we gotta spread the love to different pools guys <3
March 22, 2014, 05:11:12 PM
In any case, make sure to provide very clear and simple instructions on how to use this.
My dad would love to see the gulden back but he's going to have a hard time with "grab the wallet from this site and import this priv key asdf765sfhs87rhwer in console. to get more coins set listen=1 in conf and point your scrypt miner to 127.0.0.1:11015."
My dad would love to see the gulden back but he's going to have a hard time with "grab the wallet from this site and import this priv key asdf765sfhs87rhwer in console. to get more coins set listen=1 in conf and point your scrypt miner to 127.0.0.1:11015."
We have already set up an easy way for this and a manual
March 22, 2014, 04:53:13 PM
In any case, make sure to provide very clear and simple instructions on how to use this.
My dad would love to see the gulden back but he's going to have a hard time with "grab the wallet from this site and import this priv key asdf765sfhs87rhwer in console. to get more coins set listen=1 in conf and point your scrypt miner to 127.0.0.1:11015."
My dad would love to see the gulden back but he's going to have a hard time with "grab the wallet from this site and import this priv key asdf765sfhs87rhwer in console. to get more coins set listen=1 in conf and point your scrypt miner to 127.0.0.1:11015."
March 22, 2014, 04:26:45 PM
Are you going to do something IRL? Consider having some people stand in the center of Amsterdam and hand out paper wallets with EFL or something like that. What bothers me about this coin is the 50% premine. I am not sure if you will actually give that to citizens or you are going to use that to make yourself rich.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
You want to stay anonymous, that also doesnt help your credibility.
March 22, 2014, 02:25:07 PM
Spread the hash rate please!
4500 block diff retarget is like an open invitation to be raped by multi pools...
+1. KGW is needed.4500 block diff retarget is like an open invitation to be raped by multi pools...
We are working on changing the block retarget and kwg. Hopefully done this weekend. Doing the best we can guys!
March 22, 2014, 02:21:43 PM
Spread the hash rate please!
4500 block diff retarget is like an open invitation to be raped by multi pools...
+1. KGW is needed. 4500 block diff retarget is like an open invitation to be raped by multi pools...
March 22, 2014, 02:17:06 PM
Spread the hash rate please!
Right now chessmaster's pool (http://efl.multi-pool.eu/) controls nearly the ENTIRE network. He could perform a 51% attack right now. I'm not saying he will, but he now has the means to do so!
Anyone mining there, please consider moving to a different pool! One centralized pool defeats the entire purpose of a p2p network.
Also check this pool's stats and you'll see there's one guy with 55MH/s under his control. If you're reading this: hello, you can easily go solo. please do!
4500 block diff retarget is like an open invitation to be raped by multi pools...
Right now chessmaster's pool (http://efl.multi-pool.eu/) controls nearly the ENTIRE network. He could perform a 51% attack right now. I'm not saying he will, but he now has the means to do so!
Anyone mining there, please consider moving to a different pool! One centralized pool defeats the entire purpose of a p2p network.
Also check this pool's stats and you'll see there's one guy with 55MH/s under his control. If you're reading this: hello, you can easily go solo. please do!
I have one question for the DEV, does this coin have milti pool protection? as Spain coin does not, and it's been raped over the last week and it made the price crash.
4500 block diff retarget is like an open invitation to be raped by multi pools...
March 22, 2014, 01:29:01 PM
March 22, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
Not sure why Aphroditecoin is getting that much more attention than this one.
March 22, 2014, 12:55:13 PM
I have one question for the DEV, does this coin have milti pool protection? as Spain coin does not, and it's been raped over the last week and it made the price crash.
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