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Topic: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden | The Netherlands | Bittrex - cryptopia ea | - page 37. (Read 82379 times)

hero member
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Community Liaison,How can i help you?
legendary
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Sum          Total                         Size (EFL)              Bid (BTC)
22.9726        22.9159        654740.01690412      0.00003500

why not start buying?  Tongue

newbie
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You have heard it so many times because it's the biggest problem with EFL, this will never change no matter what happens, everyone think it start off as a scam accepts for people who hold lots of EFL and this is something you will have to live with but EFL team need to stop using excuses and start developing, you are falling far behind the rest of the crypto world in development.

I only see this now after looking at NLG and other coins.

That is not true. Look better : http://forum.egulden.org/index.php?topic=1127.0
We keep in sync with litecoin : https://github.com/litecoin-project/litecoin/compare/master-0.10...Electronic-Gulden-Foundation:develop

Much better, releases like this every 2 months and EFL will catch up fast.
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You have heard it so many times because it's the biggest problem with EFL, this will never change no matter what happens, everyone think it start off as a scam accepts for people who hold lots of EFL and this is something you will have to live with but EFL team need to stop using excuses and start developing, you are falling far behind the rest of the crypto world in development.

I only see this now after looking at NLG and other coins.

That is not true. Look better : http://forum.egulden.org/index.php?topic=1127.0
We keep in sync with litecoin : https://github.com/litecoin-project/litecoin/compare/master-0.10...Electronic-Gulden-Foundation:develop
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While talking about choices and comparing coins
  • There will be 21M EFL (open) ever, against 1680M NLG, nowhere to find on the official website
  • NLG blocktime should be 150 seconds, while it is at >250 seconds for months now.
  • EFL was first 19 march 2014, NLG second  29 march 2014
  • NLG, pretending to target the same community, disrupted the sense of scarcity by providing a seemingly similar coin but 80 times the quantity while obscuring this on their website(see first bullet), frustrating the original EFL dev's that started dumping until EFL was taken over and stabilized by the Electronic Gulden Foundation.
  • NLG clearly seized dutch identity by using the original Dutch guilder as their logo, pretending to be a country coin, but exploiting this in the Bitcoin community for example by using english everywhere.
  • While Electronic Gulden Foundation was educating dutch citizens by providing numerous dutch publications about the virtues of cryptocurrency and their functions, they were harassed by NLG-adepts on threads like this

All right, I could go on and on, but that is waste of energy (one retrospection a year should be enough). EFL and NLG are just cryptocoins with their own challenges, as all Altcoins thrive on the works of Satoshi. It is better to put all effort into positive thinking, which is about improving functionality and educating and motivating people. Not about pretending to be the best.
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The best choice is......Efl
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Huh Huh

New or stupid?

You can see your investment in  the cryptocoins as investing in stocks or as venture capital investment.

In both you have to diversify.

Dont try to fool the newbies

Life is full of choices. Once you have chosen it is called a decision. Many are afraid to do that. That's their own choice.
Of course it is wise to diversify if you don't trust your own decision.
legendary
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I decided to buy guldencoin today. Better to bet on 2 horses then one. They have achieved a lot in 1 year so have to give them credit where credit is due. EFL I will just hold but not buy anymore and see where it goes. I only see today how much has been done by Guldencoin.  Angry

You only had ELF?  Shocked Shocked

You should diversify your investment in at least 10 different coins


By investing in a coin you are also supporting it. The funny thing about focussing on a specific coin is that you support your own investment. The notion to spread your risk while investing risky is a bit awkward. My suggestion is to get to know the people behind a coin, rate their intentions, make a choice, focus and even better : promote to protect your own investment.

Huh Huh

New or stupid?

You can see your investment in  the cryptocoins as investing in stocks or as venture capital investment.

In both you have to diversify.

Dont try to fool the newbies
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
I decided to buy guldencoin today. Better to bet on 2 horses then one. They have achieved a lot in 1 year so have to give them credit where credit is due. EFL I will just hold but not buy anymore and see where it goes. I only see today how much has been done by Guldencoin.  Angry

You only had ELF?  Shocked Shocked

You should diversify your investment in at least 10 different coins


By investing in a coin you are also supporting it. The funny thing about focussing on a specific coin is that you support your own investment. The notion to spread your risk while investing risky is a bit awkward. My suggestion is to get to know the people behind a coin, rate their intentions, make a choice, focus and even better : promote to protect your own investment.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1025
I decided to buy guldencoin today. Better to bet on 2 horses then one. They have achieved a lot in 1 year so have to give them credit where credit is due. EFL I will just hold but not buy anymore and see where it goes. I only see today how much has been done by Guldencoin.  Angry

You only had ELF?  Shocked Shocked

You should diversify your investment in at least 10 different coins

newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
I decided to buy guldencoin today. Better to bet on 2 horses then one. They have achieved a lot in 1 year so have to give them credit where credit is due. EFL I will just hold but not buy anymore and see where it goes. I only see today how much has been done by Guldencoin.  Angry
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1025

I am not, i just use litecoin paperwallet services for EFL, that way I know the website/service owner/handler/middleman can not know he handeled an EFL transaction, even when they promise me it is totally secure. Also, efl.nl is going to assist me into my journey to the unknown.

Thanks!

You are welcome, another change i made since then is 2FA, forgot to mention that one  Wink

Thanksss Wink
hero member
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I am not, i just use litecoin paperwallet services for EFL, that way I know the website/service owner/handler/middleman can not know he handeled an EFL transaction, even when they promise me it is totally secure. Also, efl.nl is going to assist me into my journey to the unknown.

Thanks!

You are welcome, another change i made since then is 2FA, forgot to mention that one  Wink
hero member
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Is it technically possible to merge two blockchains? We could ask their development team to see if they can do it.
No. You want to keep balances and transactions history? These must come from mined blocks which must be connected to current blockchain.

It doesn't matter, EFL is for store of value, we have less coins which mean we are more valuable. NLG can be for use and we like gold standard.

let's stop here. Merge is not gonna happen.
This is not even a serious thing unless you're planning to promote EFL in the NLG thread to bring some dutch people here (quite agresive marketing strategy in my opinion anyway)

that marketing idea will not work as the NLG team has a selfmoderated topic and deletes all EFL releted post quite fast (got some experience with that  Wink ) Also the NLG community will only hate our coin more, they basically decided we are a scam coin and are not touching our coin since the price went below 2000 satoshi. I really thank them on my bare knees every day for not buying any coin as they are missing the biggest opportunity of their lifetime, only because their ego is too big  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1025

I am not, i just use litecoin paperwallet services for EFL, that way I know the website/service owner/handler/middleman can not know he handeled an EFL transaction, even when they promise me it is totally secure. Also, efl.nl is going to assist me into my journey to the unknown.

Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1025
Is it technically possible to merge two blockchains? We could ask their development team to see if they can do it.
No. You want to keep balances and transactions history? These must come from mined blocks which must be connected to current blockchain.

It doesn't matter, EFL is for store of value, we have less coins which mean we are more valuable. NLG can be for use and we like gold standard.

let's stop here. Merge is not gonna happen.
This is not even a serious thing unless you're planning to promote EFL in the NLG thread to bring some dutch people here (quite agresive marketing strategy in my opinion anyway)
hero member
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Respect the other coins  Wink

why you consider yourself as bitcoin elite?

 Newbie
Date Registered:    February 04, 2015, 02:18:46 AM

EFL has the richest btc holder in the Netherlands supporting us as he believes in our vision, if he wanted to he could pump the price to over 200k.

Name?
Proof?

If he's a big EFL bagholder he can also dump the pice....

I'm also EFL investor, but i think we should cooperate with NLG

For example, we could make a service, that allow EFL users to pay where NLG is accepted... and it would be awesome if they help us with that Wink



Good luck on that, so far they only work on their own project, most shops that accept NLG are not even connected to bitcoin, just NLG. If you get their community to see the advantage that you just described, and that adding merchants just for your own coin is not helping crypto as much as it could, we would be playing a completely different ballgame. We've tried already without any succes and therefore are now focussing on our own, but I'm sure our team is willing to co-operate with NLG.

My personal opinion in this is that we do not need to add merchants, as they are just people that sell stuff and if they are smart they make sure they can also sell to people who do not hold their currency, it's just extra turnover for them. We have a merchent tool ready, but I believe we need a community that only wants to buy with crypto and if we get that, a lot of merchants are going to connect themselves to any form of crypto we want. As NLG mainly communicates in English, I would love to see that coin as a payment solution for all inhabitants and tourists of our country, while EFL with it's dutch language is more for the natives who can store their wealth over a long period of time.

About rich and poor, I personally think that there are not a lot of people who hold as few fiat as me. It's too bad the sexcoin forum is gone, but there i wrote about how I became a (euro) millionaire on trading sxc and lost it all for being naive and not securing my pc enough. I am not rich at all, only that I talk myself into believe that real richness comes from happiness and that my choise to step away from fiat, makes me happy in the long run. Then again, if we really got that richest btc holder of the netherlands supporting us, make him put the price on a euro for a second, I'm sure a lot of dutch inhabitants will start having doubt about their pension if we can show them there is another way!

I think that can make the difference. (even if I dont understand dutch)

Could you explain us how are you securing your pc? (for non-tech) (Thanks!!)

I am not, i just use litecoin paperwallet services for EFL, that way I know the website/service owner/handler/middleman can not know he handeled an EFL transaction, even when they promise me it is totally secure. Also, efl.nl is going to assist me into my journey to the unknown.
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