Topic: [ANN][EGC] EverGreenCoin | Environmental Green Causes | Full 7% PoS | Foundation - page 64. (Read 284541 times)

Hi EverGreenCoin community,

Yesterday I had asked David to field some of the honest questions that have been asked. I understand he does not want to be pulled away from his work and I do understand it is unpleasant to answer questions in less-than-perfect situations. Given the tardiness of the new website, I did explain a response was in the best interest of EverGreenCoin and the community was deserving.

The foundation gained its funding through the mining of the community during PoW. One could argue the community helped pay for half of the bill for the new website. If you remember: Of the paid bill of 25 k EGC, 12.5 k EGC was paid from the foundation, 12.5 k EGC by me personally. I advised not ignoring would be best for everyone involved and ask for him to, during his lunch break perhaps, field some of the honest and professionally delivered questions.

Since David was unable to field the questions as of yet and I do not want the community to lower its expectations of responsiveness, let me address the ones I am aware of answers to and do so to the best of knowledge based on previous discussions:

• As far as the mobile version, David tells me a plugin or module only needs to be installed that will resolve this.
• The exchange and social links of course should be a quick fix. Some of the social links do not yet have relevant targets, for I have not made EGC accounts on all of the social media sites presently displayed. But at this time, we should just disable those. In the future, we can enable when relevant.
• Some of the images in use will certainly not be used. David and his staff only used these for mockups and now remain as placeholders. Owners of any imagery used will be contacted and asked for permission.  
• David and I did have many in-depth and very long discussions of my motives behind developing EverGreenCoin. Elaboration of how EverGreenCoin could, and in my mind would, be a successful project did aid us in coming up with a plan of presentation we both feel very confident about. I admit I may have let those conversations go on for longer than needed.

Those are the only questions that have been raised that I am comfortable answering. Of course I can not field questions about his business or his business practices. I have no knowledge of those answers and even if I did, I feel that would be unprofessional of myself.

I do thank the community for maintaining professionalism. Even the comments that were delivered more bluntly were, I believe, done while holding their tongue. I have had to answer to much worse and I feel silence will only further aggravate the situation. I hope I have at least shed a little light on some questions asked.

It's a little concerning when you link to your business site and that sites says:

Regular contact doesn't mean much without something to back it up. I'd potentially argue that very regular contact can be a bad thing as it takes away potential dev time. If your spending more time having regular contact than doing dev work there's something wrong.

I think the coin has good potential, you guys are working really hard to promote it, and I like the environmental aspect of the coin (as I also do with XMG, also picked up a lot today) - and also the price is not as reactive as some of the more popular coins meaning if you are late off the mark there are still some low orders available before the price reacts to the market. I suspect the price will increase over the next couple of days assuming the BTC price keeps dropping and the fallout from the staging website status doesn't hit the price too badly.

I'll be doing a bit of range trading with the coin and hopefully build some more funds up to justify running a wallet in the near future - my strategy is trade with the coins for now - and will start siphoning off profits into a wallet once I hit a given threshold.

Thank you for investing in EverGreenCoin! =)

Looks like the BTC price is in retracement phase - price is back down to 700, glad I managed to pick up a few cheap EGC today. The price didn't catch up with the BTC price yet so looking very tempting - shame I'm out of funds on Bittrex, still had a nice haul today - managed to more than double my EGC holding - so can't complain =)

Scifi is fiction and that's exactly what the new site is to me and I know what I am talking about with over 20 years of experience in webdesign.
What I see now is just a mockup and definitely no almost finished product.
Sorry to say, but I am heavily disappointed by the clumsiness and I would certainly not recommend any of your services to anyone I know David.

The webguys I know does mindblowing work in a week.
This is not mindblowing..
This is not even remotely impressive.
Neither is is very good looking.

This took 16 weeks?

(I realise a couple of points here have been answered in David's post above, However I think it's useful to have a complete set of comments, I had started writing this a couple of days ago)

Having actually had a chance to look at the staging site on a decent screen I've got to say I'm somewhat disappointed in what I see. Looking back in this thread the contract for the new site was made at the start of July 2016 and had a 3-6 week schedule.


We're now almost 4 months into this and I wonder how long it will take to get completed.

As far as I can see there's only a single page with an awful lot of content half of which can't be seen unless you've got the window full screen on a large (1920x1080) sized screen. I suspect that mobiles and tablets are going to struggle.

Most of the images look to be badly resized and taken from this thread, and as far as I can tell no checks have been made on whether they can actually be used.

None of the images to exchanges, social media take you to the relevant site.

Whilst I can understand the desire to work on the backend first, adding a bit of content and a few minutes resizing / cropping the images better would have made a huge difference. It's one of the things I've learned in IT projects - work on the frontend (i.e. what the customer sees and judges you on) as well as the backend.

With the use of Joomla I'd have thought it would have been possible to have  given at least a few people in the community the ability to start writing articles, this would have helped with content, content may not have been perfect but some content is better than none.

David: As you've been paid for this project presumably you have a project plan detailing what needs to be done and some estimated timescales. Sharing at least some of that (just the headlines/highlights) would likely increase confidence from the community.

Hi David,

    Thanks for sharing a status update with us.

    Would you kindly elaborate on the features you are developing under the hood and their interactions within the greater Joomla! system.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

Hey David, the people here were thinking of a release already and now we saw a EGC page what was not even near finished...
The crypto guys want to khnow a release date. If you are a real company with Scifidomain you could give us the date. And if you khnow that you couldn't hold the release date you should have talked to us instead of showing us a layout page where nothing is finished.

Thank you Steven and the EGC Community for your question regarding EGC Website 2.0 Portal loading speed on the staging server address: http://stage.evergreencoin.org

Firstly, while we continue to load and test numerous feature extensions and modules for the website, Science Fiction Computer Pty Limited t/a www.scifidomain.com prefers to not enable Joomla caching by default.

The reason for this is to maintain a consistent build and testing environment for each new extension and/or software plugin added to identify potential conflicts or faults.

Secondly, images on the homepage (i.e. link above) are not optimized and used for temporary demonstration purposes only. Without notice homepage content may be either switched out with visually-appealing graphics which are optimized as official V2 content. Or without notice cleaner placeholders are an option we might use very shortly ready for fresh information to be inserted either by myself, by developer/s or Steven will help to show the new EGC website's educational intent.

We at SCiFi Domain (www.scifidomain.com) appreciate the EGC Community's and Steven's cooperation and patience as we work hard to construct a brand new infohub and business portal for the EverGreenCoin ("EGC") cryptocurrency.

We will endeavour to provide more updates shortly, however, the reason we as a commercial business have been quiet is because we are more focused on the backend website at the moment rather than spending time on the forums in discussion.

It may appear that little work on stage.evergreencoin.org has been done. However, please note that the reason homepage layout is not representative of a finished website ready for publishing to the EverGreenCoin.org root directory right now is because...

We are spending more time working on software and mechanics under the hood, rather than focusing on aesthetics at present.

SCiFi Domain has always been in regular contact with Steven during the recent months and we have not gone any longer than several days without communicating or speaking with him.

Make no mistake, more polished visual aesthetic design along with strategic EGC mission and message content will appear on the V2 Website based on Plans ultimately decided  upon in meetings between Steven (the Core Developer of EverGreenCoin) and SCiFi Domain after many sessions of consultation.

And that plan approved by Steven is to communicate and educate EGC for the mainstream and new users of digital cryptocurrency.

EverGreenCoin (tm) is more than just an altcoin cryptocurrency. It's a Green Causes Movement!

Sincerely,

David
Web Developer
www.scifidomain.com

no worries ...

...

#crysx

On a certain Debian flavor you dislike, but sure you know the accommodations for RedHat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761118/install-telegram-on-ubuntu-16-04

In a browser, I just tested with ff: https://web.telegram.org/#/login


Often times developers are driven by the market. Food on their plates.


Sorry, my meeting ran over longer than expected but, it was extremely important to resolve some internal issues that arose today. I will track you down now...

no can do on linux and / or firefox ...

rebuilding the windows machine now - and prefer i NEVER have to use that garbage operating system ... BUT - that will only happen when developers will actually SUPPORT linux and free opensource software ...

paperwork almost finished ...

starting on the nodes after this ...

steven - let me know how you wish to prepare the code for this mate ... like i did with granite? ...

#crysx

All are invited to join us on Telegram at http://telegram.me/EverGreenCoin

Presently with 46 members, it is a good place to share ideas and information. Hope to see you there!

The slow speed I'm reporting could be the firing up of a worker process since nobody is using the staging site. If I make multiple clicks after the first one, it seems to be a bit faster.

In regards to the speed, the server was upgraded over two months ago in preparation of the new site. Of course, we do not want to spend additional funds on additional upgrades that are unjustifiable for a site that is not in production use. It will certainly be upgraded more when needed.

Sorry for the continued delays. I will see if I can get a representative from Science Fiction Computer Pty Ltd. to elaborate on them for us.

These things take time, especially when trying to get something that looks good and works across a multitude of devices. It's usually much better to provide a completed project rather than a buggy half finished solution that drives potential newcomers away.

The team being paid to produce the new site are doing it at a significant discount and are adding a lot of new features. They also need to pay the bills so need to work on other projects to pay those bills. Running a business is not a cheap thing.

The same is true with the various other projects going on behind the scenes. At present I'm getting nothing for the hours of effort that have gone into the Solar Staker. Currently I'm doing it because I see a long term future in EGC.

As a side note, it would come across better if you don't use all capitals in your messages. Messages in all capitals are generally seen as shouting which never comes across well to those reading the message.

The site is working for me - albeit a little slow - still seems to be very much in development. Better to wait until its ready to launch. Going live in its current state will be a very negative user experience.

ITS NOT WORKING NOW ? , WHEN IT WILL BE COMPLETELY LAUNCHED IN REPLACE OF OLD WEBSITE