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Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
Every single legitimate institution will ask you for at least email If not for your name and address as well. And yes your question was legit but kind of silly. I don't think we should allow money laundering and scums. For that reason with next version everyone using the wallet needa to supply further infomation. As all is for yours and our protection.
  No sees me complaining about the software or what has been done, or much I have donated. We all need to step up and actually make a difference If we strongly believe in something. Profits and success will follow shortly after. If anyone fell that has beem let down, please ask Jan and me and you will have your investments returned.
  Digithusiast, I appreciate your support so far as you are the only person that made through financial contribution from the original first few of us that still pushing this project. Thank you for that.


Regards
Ivan

Specifically what extra information will be required? Will you be requiring names and addresses?
Names and address will be required to do trading. If you don't want to trade you don't have to give any information. We have seen way to many scams, people taking money when flaw in the software occurs. We are going apply numerous protections to make those things less likely.


I understand we need some level of security protections but please be a bit more reasonable.

For crypto trading, no crypto exchange really requires names or addresses to register. Most of them require only emails for registration. Only when you need to trade for fiat you may need to supply more information.

Will ENRG Android wallet allow direct trading with fiat? If the answer is no, I'm afraid email registration should be enough.

We can debate over and ovet again that won't chamge the fact we will do it. Once people get burned several times they themselves will be the advocates for that information to be collected.  If we want the rest of the world to accept us as serious about this being currency we need to do it as every serious business out there does it.

  I personally don't have anything to hide. Do you?

 Can I have your private keys to your Energy wallet? I mean, you seem to have nothing to hide, so that should not be a problem..

 My dark humor aside, EVERYONE has something to hide it matters not who you are. You do not go around giving bank details to strangers. Most people do not toss around their medical history with people they do not know. The vast majority of people I know would have a real problem if I let myself into their house and went tripping through their underwear and other personal effects.

 Right now, if people have not learned to ask questions for their own security, then they really need not be on the internet. Don't get me wrong, I generally think the info requirements for the wallet are reasonable but you used a poor choice of words to go after someone that is essentially just asking for clarification on why certain info is needed.
hero member
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Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
Every single legitimate institution will ask you for at least email If not for your name and address as well. And yes your question was legit but kind of silly. I don't think we should allow money laundering and scums. For that reason with next version everyone using the wallet needa to supply further infomation. As all is for yours and our protection.
  No sees me complaining about the software or what has been done, or much I have donated. We all need to step up and actually make a difference If we strongly believe in something. Profits and success will follow shortly after. If anyone fell that has beem let down, please ask Jan and me and you will have your investments returned.
  Digithusiast, I appreciate your support so far as you are the only person that made through financial contribution from the original first few of us that still pushing this project. Thank you for that.


Regards
Ivan

Specifically what extra information will be required? Will you be requiring names and addresses?
Names and address will be required to do trading. If you don't want to trade you don't have to give any information. We have seen way to many scams, people taking money when flaw in the software occurs. We are going apply numerous protections to make those things less likely.


I understand we need some level of security protections but please be a bit more reasonable.

For crypto trading, no crypto exchange really requires names or addresses to register. Most of them require only emails for registration. Only when you need to trade for fiat you may need to supply more information.

Will ENRG Android wallet allow direct trading with fiat? If the answer is no, I'm afraid email registration should be enough.

We can debate over and ovet again that won't chamge the fact we will do it. Once people get burned several times they themselves will be the advocates for that information to be collected.  If we want the rest of the world to accept us as serious about this being currency we need to do it as every serious business out there does it.

  I personally don't have anything to hide. Do you?

Collecting personal data from your community/users will not help in stopping any potential abuse.
Thus collecting emailaddresses does not increase security at all. Therefor, if you say collecting emailadresses is being done for security reasons, I have my doubts that being the reason.
Maybe you are collecting emailaddresses/data to build up an userbase that will increase EnergyCoin value in example in relation to crypto4jan's project?
If so, just say so, so we can understand.

Without us knowing the real "why?", the only sure thing is that our emailaddresses are collected by you and the (external) coders of the wallet.
In fact that decreases the community/users identities security.
And please don't bully your community with hollow phrases like "I personally don't have anything to hide. Do you?".
Thank you.


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Will ENRG Android wallet allow direct trading with fiat? If the answer is no, I'm afraid email registration should be enough.

We are using the API of BITTREX. Some information is needed and you can trade if you give the information for trading.
If not then it is a "normal Android wallet" like almost each other coin has.
I think it is good if people can choice if the want to trade with the Android wallet, if not then no probleme, don't fill in the extra information.
The disign of the wallet is that you have to sign in for "offline POS". If you don't like that than don't use the wallet.
@Bittrex you can't trade fait into ENRG so the extra information is limited I think. No worries needed I think.
sr. member
Activity: 280
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Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
Every single legitimate institution will ask you for at least email If not for your name and address as well. And yes your question was legit but kind of silly. I don't think we should allow money laundering and scums. For that reason with next version everyone using the wallet needa to supply further infomation. As all is for yours and our protection.
  No sees me complaining about the software or what has been done, or much I have donated. We all need to step up and actually make a difference If we strongly believe in something. Profits and success will follow shortly after. If anyone fell that has beem let down, please ask Jan and me and you will have your investments returned.
  Digithusiast, I appreciate your support so far as you are the only person that made through financial contribution from the original first few of us that still pushing this project. Thank you for that.


Regards
Ivan

Specifically what extra information will be required? Will you be requiring names and addresses?
Names and address will be required to do trading. If you don't want to trade you don't have to give any information. We have seen way to many scams, people taking money when flaw in the software occurs. We are going apply numerous protections to make those things less likely.


I understand we need some level of security protections but please be a bit more reasonable.

For crypto trading, no crypto exchange really requires names or addresses to register. Most of them require only emails for registration. Only when you need to trade for fiat you may need to supply more information.

Will ENRG Android wallet allow direct trading with fiat? If the answer is no, I'm afraid email registration should be enough.

We can debate over and ovet again that won't chamge the fact we will do it. Once people get burned several times they themselves will be the advocates for that information to be collected.  If we want the rest of the world to accept us as serious about this being currency we need to do it as every serious business out there does it.

  I personally don't have anything to hide. Do you?
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Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
Every single legitimate institution will ask you for at least email If not for your name and address as well. And yes your question was legit but kind of silly. I don't think we should allow money laundering and scums. For that reason with next version everyone using the wallet needa to supply further infomation. As all is for yours and our protection.
  No sees me complaining about the software or what has been done, or much I have donated. We all need to step up and actually make a difference If we strongly believe in something. Profits and success will follow shortly after. If anyone fell that has beem let down, please ask Jan and me and you will have your investments returned.
  Digithusiast, I appreciate your support so far as you are the only person that made through financial contribution from the original first few of us that still pushing this project. Thank you for that.


Regards
Ivan

Specifically what extra information will be required? Will you be requiring names and addresses?
Names and address will be required to do trading. If you don't want to trade you don't have to give any information. We have seen way to many scams, people taking money when flaw in the software occurs. We are going apply numerous protections to make those things less likely.


I understand we need some level of security protections but please be a bit more reasonable.

For crypto trading, no crypto exchange really requires names or addresses to register. Most of them require only emails for registration. Only when you need to trade for fiat you may need to supply more information.

Will ENRG Android wallet allow direct trading with fiat? If the answer is no, I'm afraid email registration should be enough.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
Every single legitimate institution will ask you for at least email If not for your name and address as well. And yes your question was legit but kind of silly. I don't think we should allow money laundering and scums. For that reason with next version everyone using the wallet needa to supply further infomation. As all is for yours and our protection.
  No sees me complaining about the software or what has been done, or much I have donated. We all need to step up and actually make a difference If we strongly believe in something. Profits and success will follow shortly after. If anyone fell that has beem let down, please ask Jan and me and you will have your investments returned.
  Digithusiast, I appreciate your support so far as you are the only person that made through financial contribution from the original first few of us that still pushing this project. Thank you for that.


Regards
Ivan

Specifically what extra information will be required? Will you be requiring names and addresses?
Names and address will be required to do trading. If you don't want to trade you don't have to give any information. We have seen way to many scams, people taking money when flaw in the software occurs. We are going apply numerous protections to make those things less likely.
sr. member
Activity: 310
Merit: 250
Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
Every single legitimate institution will ask you for at least email If not for your name and address as well. And yes your question was legit but kind of silly. I don't think we should allow money laundering and scums. For that reason with next version everyone using the wallet needa to supply further infomation. As all is for yours and our protection.
  No sees me complaining about the software or what has been done, or much I have donated. We all need to step up and actually make a difference If we strongly believe in something. Profits and success will follow shortly after. If anyone fell that has beem let down, please ask Jan and me and you will have your investments returned.
  Digithusiast, I appreciate your support so far as you are the only person that made through financial contribution from the original first few of us that still pushing this project. Thank you for that.


Regards
Ivan

Specifically what extra information will be required? Will you be requiring names and addresses?
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
For the registration I think it is a choice made by de developer.
In future release you can also trade you ENRG for BTC and then the application has to know who you are.
Also it makes the application thiner wher the block chain is not on your phone.
I hope this is an answer on concerns why the email adress is needed.



It's not even choice. We need to be transperant and avoid scams of any sort. Security will be priority.
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Activity: 722
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For the registration I think it is a choice made by de developer.
In future release you can also trade you ENRG for BTC and then the application has to know who you are.
Also it makes the application thiner wher the block chain is not on your phone.
I hope this is an answer on concerns why the email adress is needed.

sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
Every single legitimate institution will ask you for at least email If not for your name and address as well. And yes your question was legit but kind of silly. I don't think we should allow money laundering and scums. For that reason with next version everyone using the wallet needa to supply further infomation. As all is for yours and our protection.
  No sees me complaining about the software or what has been done, or much I have donated. We all need to step up and actually make a difference If we strongly believe in something. Profits and success will follow shortly after. If anyone fell that has beem let down, please ask Jan and me and you will have your investments returned.
  Digithusiast, I appreciate your support so far as you are the only person that made through financial contribution from the original first few of us that still pushing this project. Thank you for that.


Regards
Ivan
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 504
Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.

Many other Android wallets do not require email registration at all like i.e. the Guldencoin wallet.
I donated 0.5 BTC and 2.5 million EnergyCoin to the EnergyCoin team. I am just asking a legit question.
Your answer is a bit disappointing the least.
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The Wallet is online ? Hosted on a server somewhere that stake and everything ?

Or the keys are on Android device ?

Because it looks like the Android Wallet is just a client to an online Wallet.

 I do not think we have access to the private keys for the Android wallet accounts. This makes me a bit scared, but then, i wont be keeping all my coin in that wallet. I want to support the Android wallet and I will and I figure as long as I do not load it with all my coin, Ill be fine if something happens.

 I could be wrong about the private keys though. I have to admit that I have not looked at the whole wallet to see if there is a place where I can get full control over the coins in it.
sr. member
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Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.

Why! Anywhere you register you need some identification. That's why.
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 504
Please elaborate why you are collecting emailaddresses with the EnergyCoin Android wallet? Thanks.
legendary
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Energy coin master
Thank you EnergyCR!
sr. member
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I have still problems to get in.
Password reset works but I can't remember my exact username.
There must be an implementation to send the username also if requested.
With the other email address I tried I never received a confirmation email, (EnergyCR knows the username and email address).
So I stop trying now and wait for the first bug fixed version.


These problems are noted. The next release of wallet will address and fix these issues.
sr. member
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np.  i wasn't aware there were other green crypto projects out there except for solarcoin and freshcoin.  anyway, i hope you guys the best and all the success in trying to make the world a better place.

i have said this before, but maybe the BTC millionaires themselves should start an R&D initiative for peer to peer energy grids. they could sell cheap green energy for other alts to use for mining.  Grin

thank you so much for your words. You can see that the coin is 6 months old. I am core developer of the coin. Since the release of the coin. I and other coders have worked together to bring the useful tools to our coin. Most of us understand that it takes a coin a lot of time to get recognition from the crypto world. It takes a lot of time to stand out of the crowd. the coin has been trading in 300 satoshi range in june. We'll get way past that once our developments keep rolling out. We've yet a few hidden things which we'll do over the time.  Smiley

Edit: There is no more room for dumps anymore. Those who wanted to dump dumped it long ago. We've been very strong at 57 satoshis. There is seemingly NO ONE who is willing to sell even 1M coins at 50 satoshis anymore. But still it takes more to weed out the people willing to sell. Coin had been at higher prices in June and July.
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
np.  i wasn't aware there were other green crypto projects out there except for solarcoin and freshcoin.  anyway, i hope you guys the best and all the success in trying to make the world a better place.

i have said this before, but maybe the BTC millionaires themselves should start an R&D initiative for peer to peer energy grids. they could sell cheap green energy for other alts to use for mining.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2453
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Energy coin master
oh. you bought ENRG up?  ok i will put a little support at 50ish or so.  nothing big tho.
Thanks all the support helps.
Investors needed for my project are more impressed if ENRG is above 500 Satoshi so n higher rate is good for all the holders of EnergyCoin and we beat the other "green" CryptoCurrency out there and maybe become the most important coin ever, (but that is a dream for over a few years).
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
oh. you bought ENRG up?  ok i will put a little support at 50ish or so.  nothing big tho.
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