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Topic: [ANN]Faircoin - MULTIPOOL PAYS --- 20%--- BONUS! for the next week!! - page 318. (Read 341960 times)

vis
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About the 10 minutes block... like I said above, in the context of a brick and mortar business, I can think of many situations where this could be a deal breaker.  True, Bitcoin is the only one gaining use in the mainstream... but I still think the adoption rate is slowed down by this factor alone.  On the other hand, a lot of use of the bitcoin don't need fast transaction time.  If we think back at one of the original idea WHY bitcoin was created was to transfer money... This is not a commercial transaction rather a financial transaction... I find it perfectly fine having to wait ~1 hour to get my money cleared. It still is the fasted way to wire money anywhere in the world AND the cheapest. I think you get the point.

and what about this PoS block minimizing time to 5 minutes? I didn't look at the code on that but from experience on other coins... PoS competes against PoW so the network produce 1 block for the given target... So here the PoS block would still be 10 minutes apart.

can anyone shed some light on this ? Is this what is supposed to happen to FairCoin?

faircoin should behave like novacoin
so i guess they're competing

but the greater question is that of the block times
even aurora coin which includes pretty much all the lessons learned, uses a 10 minutes block time
and there is no plan to reduce bitcoin block times

i'm not sure about how this is handled and can't answer your questions
but you seem to be in disagreement with the core developers in the crypto world
newbie
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If you are accepting a reputable forum member escrow is fine to me (Tomatocage, John K., DannyHamilton or the like). If you are proposing your own unknown to manking escrow, then no xD

We will only work with escrow providers that both parties approve. If there is a trusted forum member escrow who would like to work with us on a constant basis please reach out to us.
sr. member
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still can't believe the votes dropped by 50% in a few minutes on cryptorush, how is that possible?
legendary
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Crypto entrepreneur and consultant
Please post exactly where we said that because never did we say we were the dev team, infact we specifically wrote we are NOT the dev team.


Hi ,
This is NOT part of our team,
Please be very very careful!


We are not part of the official dev team however we plan to be very active in this community and to build a strong reputation. We do not want to hold your funds, we will execute your trade and send you your coins as soon as humanly possible. This is the massive security advantage of an over the counter exchange.

Thank you.

Additionally we are happy to use escrow service for anyone who is interested. No we will not send BTC first to any random user on this forum to prove our trustworthiness, that is just plain stupidity. We hope everyone here stays open minded and helps us to build a great community.

As for purchasing we are waiting for the distribution to be completed and then trade will open, that is what the dev's are promising and we are following their lead.

Thank you.


If you are accepting a reputable forum member escrow is fine to me (Tomatocage, John K., DannyHamilton or the like). If you are proposing your own unknown to manking escrow, then no xD
hero member
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Is there anyone still waiting for first piece of coins?
sr. member
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Well nice to see everyone chime in on this one  Wink




10 minutes block time is WAAAAAY to long.  On the "business" side of this coin, no merchant wants to wait 10 minutes to confirm any transactions. I think we need to change this to something between 30-90 seconds blocks. This could be a deal breaker and since we are at the beginning ... Forking this now would be natural and the right thing to do since the issue as already been pointed out.

The other thing I noticed is that the devs are too quiet in this forum and take too much time to react/respond/update.  The team might be too small unexperienced, if team there is.  But the beauty about OpenSource projects is just that.   OPEN!  So that's were the community should step in and contribute in their own way to help get this coin out there and make it a success. Some of us already have and I salute all of you Grin


I think your inputs valid and valued, so don't take this the wrong way, as some points I do disagree with Smiley

30-90 sec block times way too fast (yeah all the pump n dump scamcoins like the fast ones, but theres a scaming reasons/trick for that I wont get into), 10 min maybe too long but still I'm fine with that.
Think its way too early to consider a fork.

Also I think the dev been very responsive, especially consider the distribution task he is also on, just a little patience is needed by all, remember its only be alive a few short days, and the coins are free Smiley

Reply to others comment; I think the devs done the best job he can to have the coin as fair as possible, by no means an easy task (no crypto has achieved what the average person here would consider fair).

Even a perfect fair launch, fair distributions, in the long term will any successful crypto not end up in the same hands (if you can buy cryptos with fiat, they become just as fair as fiat).

Very interesting experiment here on many levels, help answers what happens to a blockchain when pow is finished? can a freely given coin become worth something? all 50 mil hit the market at once what will happen?.......we all have prediction and I think I know somewhat the answers but interesting to examine it live.

 


Well the reason I'm saying 30-90 seconds blocks is for ease of transactions.  And when I say 10 minute is too long, I have a specific scenario in my head.  Take any brick and mortar business... Take Starbuck for instance... would you think they'd consider taking payments via a network witch takes 10 minutes per confirmation and x confirmation to clear? The customer's latte would have time to become cold before the transaction is cleared!  Wink

I am not sure to get the scamming reasons for having a fast block or even how block speed relates to scamming?!? I know HoboNickels is one of the fastest PoW/PoS coin out there and it does pretty good no issues about scamming there...

About the dev... I support the good work they did and still doing... But I noticed some things that made me think that they were/are overwhelmed.  It is a pretty big task and if they do need help about anything on this launch... I think they should come forward. Transparancy goes many ways and it's not just about showing what your doing / it's being humble enough to ask for help in order to get the best out of anyone.  That being said it's a concern that I have and would hate to see this coin fail just for lack of support. Nothing against the devs.

I agree with you on the others points.   Fairness is a concept often misinterpreted.  If the rules are clear and anyone can participate with same level of difficulty then fair is just that... Even if some come on top, doesn't make it any less fairer.

And yes, this is an EXCELLENT experiment on many levels for this coin and future coins development.

Maybe i'm not getting something.

10 minutes blocks are good enough for bitcoin, peercoin, and lots of other coins, and bitcoin is the only 1 that's really being used as a currency outside our little bubble of crypto world
why would this be a deal breaker?
also, pos blocks will on average half that time to 5 minutes




vis is right,
You all forgot the POS blocks that minimize the time to 5 minutes.


About the 10 minutes block... like I said above, in the context of a brick and mortar business, I can think of many situations where this could be a deal breaker.  True, Bitcoin is the only one gaining use in the mainstream... but I still think the adoption rate is slowed down by this factor alone.  On the other hand, a lot of use of the bitcoin don't need fast transaction time.  If we think back at one of the original idea WHY bitcoin was created was to transfer money... This is not a commercial transaction rather a financial transaction... I find it perfectly fine having to wait ~1 hour to get my money cleared. It still is the fasted way to wire money anywhere in the world AND the cheapest. I think you get the point.

and what about this PoS block minimizing time to 5 minutes? I didn't look at the code on that but from experience on other coins... PoS competes against PoW so the network produce 1 block for the given target... So here the PoS block would still be 10 minutes apart.

can anyone shed some light on this ? Is this what is supposed to happen to FairCoin?
sr. member
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Life is a bitch, get used to it...
Still, I haven't received anything )):

When will the distribution be over ? I fucking want to spread coins around the world
No FACs were given today Smiley :d
legendary
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geez.
still not recieved ,
sign up around no 28K-29k (forgot the real count)
still long way to go? Cheesy
check it again tommorow then  Grin
newbie
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Please post exactly where we said that because never did we say we were the dev team, infact we specifically wrote we are NOT the dev team.


Hi ,
This is NOT part of our team,
Please be very very careful!


We are not part of the official dev team however we plan to be very active in this community and to build a strong reputation. We do not want to hold your funds, we will execute your trade and send you your coins as soon as humanly possible. This is the massive security advantage of an over the counter exchange.

Thank you.

Additionally we are happy to use escrow service for anyone who is interested. No we will not send BTC first to any random user on this forum to prove our trustworthiness, that is just plain stupidity. We hope everyone here stays open minded and helps us to build a great community.

As for purchasing we are waiting for the distribution to be completed and then trade will open, that is what the dev's are promising and we are following their lead.

Thank you.
hero member
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www.gamebet.gg
Keep voting guys! Nobody bought votes for faircoin, this is pure free votes behind, so keep going !

I think we have many individuals holding stakes, and this will help a lot. Just see the votes by yourself!


PS : Faircoinexchange.com seems fishy still.

Such a waste of domain name if you ask me. Poor start and wrong move to imply that they were part of the dev team. Should have gone clean from the start.

We never implied we were part of the dev team. Trolls on this forum are hurting this coin by claiming we are scammers with no evidence. We are an honest team and we are working hard to make this coin a success.

If anyone has any suggestions we are all ears, but not giving us a chance doesn't help anyone. We're giving out free Faircoins for anyone who applies.

Cheers.
If you are not scammers, then i'll would like to sell you 2k FAC at prices listed on your website, but you send BTC first. And then we will have evidence if you are scammers or honest traders

I'd sell too at this price. It may be good tho since even if we don't buy from them they are helping on integrating a start selling price for fair coin Tongue
newbie
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Still, I haven't received anything )):

When will the distribution be over ? I fucking want to spread coins around the world
hero member
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Keep voting guys! Nobody bought votes for faircoin, this is pure free votes behind, so keep going !

I think we have many individuals holding stakes, and this will help a lot. Just see the votes by yourself!


PS : Faircoinexchange.com seems fishy still.

Such a waste of domain name if you ask me. Poor start and wrong move to imply that they were part of the dev team. Should have gone clean from the start.

We never implied we were part of the dev team. Trolls on this forum are hurting this coin by claiming we are scammers with no evidence. We are an honest team and we are working hard to make this coin a success.

If anyone has any suggestions we are all ears, but not giving us a chance doesn't help anyone. We're giving out free Faircoins for anyone who applies.

Cheers.

I record this for future.  Time can tell us what is the truth.
newbie
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Much Hello!

Our launch was a great success and we are all working together to make this coin the next... NXT Wink

Faircoin will be the number one proof of stake cryptocurrency, and everyone is working together and contributing to make this happen. There is a huge initial community behind this coin and soon Faircoin will be a top 10 cryptocurrency!

We believe in this currency long term, and since we realize it may take some time to get on the major exchanges and coinmarketcap, we have set up an over the counter market for people to buy and sell Faircoins.

Please visit our new site:  http://www.FaircoinExchange.com

About us: We are a team of best friends who have been in crypto for years, and we are dedicated to make trading Faircoins easy, fast, and most of all secure. We are working hard to expand our exchange functionality and hope you will also help facilitate the growth of this new market.

We already have a large amount of pre-orders from people who either missed the distribution or want more! If you would like to be added to our orderbook or have any recommendations please send us a message.

Cheers.

Hi ,
This is NOT part of our team,
Please be very very careful!


really?
sr. member
Activity: 444
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Life is a bitch, get used to it...
Keep voting guys! Nobody bought votes for faircoin, this is pure free votes behind, so keep going !

I think we have many individuals holding stakes, and this will help a lot. Just see the votes by yourself!


PS : Faircoinexchange.com seems fishy still.

Such a waste of domain name if you ask me. Poor start and wrong move to imply that they were part of the dev team. Should have gone clean from the start.

We never implied we were part of the dev team. Trolls on this forum are hurting this coin by claiming we are scammers with no evidence. We are an honest team and we are working hard to make this coin a success.

If anyone has any suggestions we are all ears, but not giving us a chance doesn't help anyone. We're giving out free Faircoins for anyone who applies.

Cheers.
If you are not scammers, then i'll would like to sell you 2k FAC at prices listed on your website, but you send BTC first. And then we will have evidence if you are scammers or honest traders
vis
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Activity: 84
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Keep voting guys! Nobody bought votes for faircoin, this is pure free votes behind, so keep going !

I think we have many individuals holding stakes, and this will help a lot. Just see the votes by yourself!


PS : Faircoinexchange.com seems fishy still.

Such a waste of domain name if you ask me. Poor start and wrong move to imply that they were part of the dev team. Should have gone clean from the start.

We never implied we were part of the dev team. Trolls on this forum are hurting this coin by claiming we are scammers with no evidence. We are an honest team and we are working hard to make this coin a success.

If anyone has any suggestions we are all ears, but not giving us a chance doesn't help anyone. We're giving out free Faircoins for anyone who applies.

Cheers.

we have quotes of you saying you ARE the dev team
you can't take that back
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Keep voting guys! Nobody bought votes for faircoin, this is pure free votes behind, so keep going !

I think we have many individuals holding stakes, and this will help a lot. Just see the votes by yourself!


PS : Faircoinexchange.com seems fishy still.

Such a waste of domain name if you ask me. Poor start and wrong move to imply that they were part of the dev team. Should have gone clean from the start.

We never implied we were part of the dev team. Trolls on this forum are hurting this coin by claiming we are scammers with no evidence. We are an honest team and we are working hard to make this coin a success.

If anyone has any suggestions we are all ears, but not giving us a chance doesn't help anyone. We're giving out free Faircoins for anyone who applies.

Cheers.
member
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Faircoin Giveaway Courtesy of FaircoinExchange.com!

As a show of good faith to the community, to help make Faircoin even fairer, and to help those who might have missed the deadline, we are launching a FAC giveaway from our own personal Faircoins! Additionally we plan to take 10% of any future profits we make and redistribute those Faircoins to the community since that is the fair thing to do  Cheesy

Our first giveaway will be for 1000 FAC to a total of 50 people (20 FAC/person).

Make sure you follow the instructions:

- To participate please reply with your Faircoin address and below that include "Buy Faircoins @ FaircoinExchange.com" so we can easily identify your submission. Then you must email us on our homepage the permalink to your post.
- Your bitcointalk user must be at least 7 days old, and any attempt to double post will disqualify you.
- This offer is valid for 2 hours, so do NOT reply once 2 hours have passed from the timestamp of this post.
- First come first serve, once 50 valid requests have been made then there is no reason for you to try as your request will not be processed.
- Please allow 24 hours for processing. Once you receive your free Faircoins a thank you post in this forum is appreciated. If you feel you should have received and didn't please email us directly on our website, do NOT post to this thread. We apologize if it takes some time to reply we are being swamped with emails at this point.

p.s. Once the official Faircoin distribution has completed we will open our exchange for trading and we look forward to serving the community and making it easy to buy and sell Faircoins.

Cheers,

FaircoinExchange.com

E-mailed you, let me see if you are a scammer or not
member
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Keep voting guys! Nobody bought votes for faircoin, this is pure free votes behind, so keep going !

I think we have many individuals holding stakes, and this will help a lot. Just see the votes by yourself!


PS : Faircoinexchange.com seems fishy still.

Such a waste of domain name if you ask me. Poor start and wrong move to imply that they were part of the dev team. Should have gone clean from the start.
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