MrBig, us/europe/ are the same infact much much worse in surveillance, so lets not support promising projects coming from there.
I would say read the details on Gems encryption
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mr5gj/gems_the_social_messenger_app_that_pays/cm6uy74
Topic: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android, iOS, Web - page 255. (Read 597190 times)
November 19, 2014, 02:59:53 PM
November 19, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
See here: http://il.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-peled/21/833/734
Peled1986 is not a dev. His specialties include academic research and writing, legal research, public speaking, Hasbara. Don't see anything about programming there. Maybe he'd like to share with us details about his hasbara work, as I'm sure he must be very skilled in that field. How much does the Israeli government pay you to shill for them Daniel?
How many Palestinians did you murder lieutenant peled?
I wouldn't invest half a satoshi in a venture that contributes to the economy of the rogue nation of Israel, which is notorious for spying heavily even on their closest allies. For all we know, it could be the shin bet that is developing GEMS to spy on users.
Peled1986 is not a dev. His specialties include academic research and writing, legal research, public speaking, Hasbara. Don't see anything about programming there. Maybe he'd like to share with us details about his hasbara work, as I'm sure he must be very skilled in that field. How much does the Israeli government pay you to shill for them Daniel?
How many Palestinians did you murder lieutenant peled?
I wouldn't invest half a satoshi in a venture that contributes to the economy of the rogue nation of Israel, which is notorious for spying heavily even on their closest allies. For all we know, it could be the shin bet that is developing GEMS to spy on users.
I have doubts about this coin but what an asshole thing to do to publicly trash a guy. There are very few people who put their public profile forward in crypto, he could of stayed anonymous.
So firstly even if you disagree with the views of the Israeli government choosing not to invest in someone from that country would rule out say anyone investing in Bitcoin or any coin coming out of the US which has by far the worse record of surveillance of any nation today. Plus you got to add that Daniel would have national service so he had no choice plus he clearly does have a negative view of mass surveillance cause he's built a friken app to avoid it! Plus he has been clear he has no programming skills and has a team doing that and that he has a Law background.
Oh please, what a bunch of rubbish. That picture of him is from an article that talks about how very proud his father is that all of his Zionist children serve in the Israeli army. This isn't a case of guilt by association. This individual proudly serves the Zionist cause and even lists hasbara, or Zionist propaganda, as one of his specialties. Many Americans are against the policies of their government and I personally know people who deserted from the army there based on moral grounds. This guy does not fit that description.
It's not only about publicly shaming a guy, as you insinuated, but rather, about warning people not to invest in a venture that will economically support Zionist aggression against the indigenous people of that land.
November 19, 2014, 01:57:04 PM
See here: http://il.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-peled/21/833/734
Peled1986 is not a dev. His specialties include academic research and writing, legal research, public speaking, Hasbara. Don't see anything about programming there. Maybe he'd like to share with us details about his hasbara work, as I'm sure he must be very skilled in that field. How much does the Israeli government pay you to shill for them Daniel?
How many Palestinians did you murder lieutenant peled?
I wouldn't invest half a satoshi in a venture that contributes to the economy of the rogue nation of Israel, which is notorious for spying heavily even on their closest allies. For all we know, it could be the shin bet that is developing GEMS to spy on users.
Peled1986 is not a dev. His specialties include academic research and writing, legal research, public speaking, Hasbara. Don't see anything about programming there. Maybe he'd like to share with us details about his hasbara work, as I'm sure he must be very skilled in that field. How much does the Israeli government pay you to shill for them Daniel?
How many Palestinians did you murder lieutenant peled?
I wouldn't invest half a satoshi in a venture that contributes to the economy of the rogue nation of Israel, which is notorious for spying heavily even on their closest allies. For all we know, it could be the shin bet that is developing GEMS to spy on users.
I have doubts about this coin but what an asshole thing to do to publicly trash a guy. There are very few people who put their public profile forward in crypto, he could of stayed anonymous.
So firstly even if you disagree with the views of the Israeli government choosing not to invest in someone from that country would rule out say anyone investing in Bitcoin or any coin coming out of the US which has by far the worse record of surveillance of any nation today. Plus you got to add that Daniel would have national service so he had no choice plus he clearly does have a negative view of mass surveillance cause he's built a friken app to avoid it! Plus he has been clear he has no programming skills and has a team doing that and that he has a Law background.
November 19, 2014, 01:00:28 PM
See here: http://il.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-peled/21/833/734
Peled1986 is not a dev. His specialties include academic research and writing, legal research, public speaking, Hasbara. Don't see anything about programming there. Maybe he'd like to share with us details about his hasbara work, as I'm sure he must be very skilled in that field. How much does the Israeli government pay you to shill for them Daniel?
How many Palestinians did you murder lieutenant peled?
I wouldn't invest half a satoshi in a venture that contributes to the economy of the rogue nation of Israel, which is notorious for spying heavily even on their closest allies. For all we know, it could be the shin bet that is developing GEMS to spy on users.
Peled1986 is not a dev. His specialties include academic research and writing, legal research, public speaking, Hasbara. Don't see anything about programming there. Maybe he'd like to share with us details about his hasbara work, as I'm sure he must be very skilled in that field. How much does the Israeli government pay you to shill for them Daniel?
How many Palestinians did you murder lieutenant peled?
I wouldn't invest half a satoshi in a venture that contributes to the economy of the rogue nation of Israel, which is notorious for spying heavily even on their closest allies. For all we know, it could be the shin bet that is developing GEMS to spy on users.
November 19, 2014, 11:49:51 AM
Whtsapp have just implemented end-to-end encryption on Android. http://blog.gsmarena.com/whatsapp-now-features-end-end-encryption-android/ 
See here for encryption details on Gems, i think it has more to offer than Whatsapp regarding privacy, apart from being able to have your own wallet, transferring value through it, potential advertisement model and having a value rewarded system for the users. Also i trust a pro Bitcoin app more than Whatsapp regarding security.
Indeed, for me apart form many new features Gems offers is that you can make transactions in a social messaging app. This makes using Gems actually make sense. Appart from that it is build on top of Bitcoin so it automatically has a strong foundation. I have learned to follow the masses and Gems chose the right side which is Bitcoin and Counterparty.
I noticed Gems and Bitcoin have both the same addresses? They start both with a 1, so you can send Gems to a Bitcoin address?
November 19, 2014, 11:30:11 AM
Whtsapp have just implemented end-to-end encryption on Android. http://blog.gsmarena.com/whatsapp-now-features-end-end-encryption-android/
See here for encryption details on Gems, i think it has more to offer than Whatsapp regarding privacy, apart from being able to have your own wallet, transferring value through it, potential advertisement model and having a value rewarded system for the users. Also i trust a pro Bitcoin app more than Whatsapp regarding security.
November 19, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
who is going to receive these invites and when are you going to start sending the invites?
we'll send out small number of invites to early supporters, active bitcointalk users and subscribers of Gems and Koinify newsletter.
I just signed up for the newsletter. Do I just wait for the invite? or has the invite been already sent out?
Also the IOS app will be available at the beginning of the public presale and the android app will be available at the end of the presale? Is that correct? or should we have wait a bit longer?
November 19, 2014, 09:20:50 AM
Whtsapp have just implemented end-to-end encryption on Android. http://blog.gsmarena.com/whatsapp-now-features-end-end-encryption-android/
See here for encryption details on Gems, i think it has more to offer than Whatsapp regarding privacy, apart from being able to have your own wallet, transferring value through it, potential advertisement model and having a value rewarded system for the users. Also i trust a pro Bitcoin app more than Whatsapp regarding security.
November 19, 2014, 07:30:37 AM
Whtsapp have just implemented end-to-end encryption on Android. http://blog.gsmarena.com/whatsapp-now-features-end-end-encryption-android/
November 19, 2014, 07:19:50 AM
The video is out of date, saying the airdrop is 25m etc.
About the coin numbers, I don't want to spark a silly discussion about this like NEM has but 200m if that is correct is a terrible figure. Your first 10billion was much better, here's why. let's say you just had 1 billion coins and say you got mildly popular, like 1m users which is conservative, still hard to achieve but not a roaring success. Well you would only have 1000 coins per user and with uneven distribution most users would have less than 1 coin so the whole bitcoin decimal place thing becomes the norm. Now that is for 1 billion, imagine only 200m! Us Bitcoin users are acclimatised to fractions but to the mainstream it's not user friendly, people would much prefer and understand if they have a few hundred or thousand Gems than .372 of a GEM.
Personally think the coin amount should be in billions at least, possibly as much as 10bn, maybe even as much as 100 billion. seriously....I think you got nudged off your original figure from one user being critical. basically I'm saying you need to plan for success, even if you don't achieve it you have to assume it will be and then people will start saying why the hell did you only have 200m coins of you wanted to become mainstream?
About the coin numbers, I don't want to spark a silly discussion about this like NEM has but 200m if that is correct is a terrible figure. Your first 10billion was much better, here's why. let's say you just had 1 billion coins and say you got mildly popular, like 1m users which is conservative, still hard to achieve but not a roaring success. Well you would only have 1000 coins per user and with uneven distribution most users would have less than 1 coin so the whole bitcoin decimal place thing becomes the norm. Now that is for 1 billion, imagine only 200m! Us Bitcoin users are acclimatised to fractions but to the mainstream it's not user friendly, people would much prefer and understand if they have a few hundred or thousand Gems than .372 of a GEM.
Personally think the coin amount should be in billions at least, possibly as much as 10bn, maybe even as much as 100 billion. seriously....I think you got nudged off your original figure from one user being critical. basically I'm saying you need to plan for success, even if you don't achieve it you have to assume it will be and then people will start saying why the hell did you only have 200m coins of you wanted to become mainstream?
The total amount of XGEMs is 100,000,000 (the asset is locked: http://www.blockscan.com/asset.aspx?q=xgem)
XGEM can be divided down to 8 decimal places so it isn't a problem if Gems network grows at an exponential rate.
To avoid fractions in the future the app can display mXGEMs instead of XGEMs.
So Gems address is the same as a Bitcoin address, both start with 1
November 19, 2014, 06:59:17 AM
How much of the ICO funds are going toward advertising the network? Are you going to be transparent with how you handle the funds or is this just paying you for your work on building the platform? Are the funds from the ICO going directly back into building the network or are they going to pay you all for your time/ideas?
November 19, 2014, 06:26:14 AM
- Does one has to have an IOS device to be able to buy Gems during invite/public sale?
- I read Gems is using the Bitcoin Blockchain, does this mean i can send Gems to a Bitcoin address and vice versa?
- How many Gems does one receive for inviting a new person to the Network?
- What is an airdrop share? Since you mentioned air drop share is multiplied by total gems owned.
- Will Gems be available for trading after the crowdsale ends or from the start of the crowd sale?
- I read Gems is using the Bitcoin Blockchain, does this mean i can send Gems to a Bitcoin address and vice versa?
- How many Gems does one receive for inviting a new person to the Network?
- What is an airdrop share? Since you mentioned air drop share is multiplied by total gems owned.
- Will Gems be available for trading after the crowdsale ends or from the start of the crowd sale?
- You don't need to have an IOS device to be able to buy Gems during invite early bird/pre-sale. The Pre-Sale will be conducted by Koinify through Koinify's Platform at www.koinify.com. In order to achieve top buying process, buyers will receive their XGEMs tokens instantly in Koinify secured built-in platform wallet.
-The number XGEMs one receive for inviting a new person to the network isn't a fixed number. The current model of the "airdrop" gives incentive to early adopters, this is because the daily airdrop amount is fixed (~27,400 XGEMs) while the numbers of users joining the network every day will keep growing. For example: on day one 2 users join the network = each invite will be worth 13,700 XGEMs. on day thirty 100 users join the network = each invite will be worth 274 XGEMS.
When will the airdrop start, during presale or after? And do i need to have an IOS device to receive XGEMs from the airdrop or is it also possible to receive the airdrop amounts if i have my Gems store in Koinify wallet?
Is there a way to know how many Gems have been sold, because i read that 50m will be available.
November 19, 2014, 04:35:40 AM
What does the advertisers interface look like? How does the advertiser select demographics to advertise to?
November 19, 2014, 01:13:29 AM
- Does one has to have an IOS device to be able to buy Gems during invite/public sale?
- I read Gems is using the Bitcoin Blockchain, does this mean i can send Gems to a Bitcoin address and vice versa?
- How many Gems does one receive for inviting a new person to the Network?
- What is an airdrop share? Since you mentioned air drop share is multiplied by total gems owned.
- Will Gems be available for trading after the crowdsale ends or from the start of the crowd sale?
- I read Gems is using the Bitcoin Blockchain, does this mean i can send Gems to a Bitcoin address and vice versa?
- How many Gems does one receive for inviting a new person to the Network?
- What is an airdrop share? Since you mentioned air drop share is multiplied by total gems owned.
- Will Gems be available for trading after the crowdsale ends or from the start of the crowd sale?
- You don't need to have an IOS device to be able to buy Gems during invite early bird/pre-sale. The Pre-Sale will be conducted by Koinify through Koinify's Platform at www.koinify.com. In order to achieve top buying process, buyers will receive their XGEMs tokens instantly in Koinify secured built-in platform wallet.
-The number XGEMs one receive for inviting a new person to the network isn't a fixed number. The current model of the "airdrop" gives incentive to early adopters, this is because the daily airdrop amount is fixed (~27,400 XGEMs) while the numbers of users joining the network every day will keep growing. For example: on day one 2 users join the network = each invite will be worth 13,700 XGEMs. on day thirty 100 users join the network = each invite will be worth 274 XGEMS.
- Airdrop share is calculated: (Total daily airdrop / number of new daily active users) X number of users you added to the network.
- XGEMs will not be available for trading during the pre-sale.
so i can buy GEMS through koinify? whats the lowest amount of GEMS that i can buy? because i don't even have 1BTC. can i buy 0.1 BTC worth of GEMS?
November 18, 2014, 08:48:54 PM
^^
Well even if it was pow it would be the same, power went into the hands of botnets and large mining farms. The rest of your comment is just prejudice.
Couple signs imo this project is legit
- Devs attend meetings and conferences, soon going to insidebitcoin Paris, we haven't seen that in a loooong time
- They are not anonymous
- Working beta ready for launch where majority of other scams don't have anything ready
- The concept is solid and promising to go viral in the social messaging space and with the right promotion it can reach millions of users
- Build on top of Bitcoin through Counterparty gives it a solid foundation and reported by huge amount of crypto news outlets
- They will store the money in multi-sig wallets with BitGo, and Adam (Counterparty co-founder) releases the funds in a milestone based requirement tier. So they get paid per development.
- Stellar and all those others are just too complicated and impossible to understand for the average person where gems is everyone already familiar with
If there is any app that can get the average person into the Bitcoin ecosystem than this is it, so i don't see a reason to disappear while staying with it would reward them more anyway and i think the devs know this swell, that's why their presents in paris, you wouldn't take the time and money to fly over there to promote it if it's a scam.
Well even if it was pow it would be the same, power went into the hands of botnets and large mining farms. The rest of your comment is just prejudice.
Couple signs imo this project is legit
- Devs attend meetings and conferences, soon going to insidebitcoin Paris, we haven't seen that in a loooong time
- They are not anonymous
- Working beta ready for launch where majority of other scams don't have anything ready
- The concept is solid and promising to go viral in the social messaging space and with the right promotion it can reach millions of users
- Build on top of Bitcoin through Counterparty gives it a solid foundation and reported by huge amount of crypto news outlets
- They will store the money in multi-sig wallets with BitGo, and Adam (Counterparty co-founder) releases the funds in a milestone based requirement tier. So they get paid per development.
- Stellar and all those others are just too complicated and impossible to understand for the average person where gems is everyone already familiar with
If there is any app that can get the average person into the Bitcoin ecosystem than this is it, so i don't see a reason to disappear while staying with it would reward them more anyway and i think the devs know this swell, that's why their presents in paris, you wouldn't take the time and money to fly over there to promote it if it's a scam.
I think this coin is legit I just think ICO's don't make much money for anyone but the developers. nearly every ICO I have invested in crashed in price after it ended. I'm concerned even more for this one cause it last for Sooo long. Bitbay had one for 4 days and got 3000btc and then inevitably dropped in price straight after. Gems has an ICO for over a month! so I expect again a big drop after. what frustrates me about these ICO is those most interested in the project that buy in the ICO time period normally pay more than those who do after.
Most ICO's have very low accountability towards the buyers and the buyers have very little ability to conduct a due diligence. We are taking the exact opposite route. As an exmaple, Dario Mutabdzija (Koinify co-founder) visited Israel as part of Koinify's long due diligence on Gems.
coindesk article: http://www.coindesk.com/koinify-melotic-plan-bring-order-crypto-crowdsales/ describes well this problem that Koinify is trying to solve.
Tom Ding (Koinify CEO) expressed "The problem is the signal-to-noise ratio is really high". "There are too many noises and it becomes really hard for people who want to invest or purchase good, high-quality projects, tokens, to differentiate a good from a bad one."
"If the project sells out, makes $6m and got all of it in cash or bitcoin, they may not have the incentive to deliver a product," Ding continued. "Part of our job is to help them establish things like multisig and create milestones-based vesting to make sure that developer incentives are in line with what they promised."
November 18, 2014, 08:23:36 PM
who is going to receive these invites and when are you going to start sending the invites?
we'll send out small number of invites to early supporters, active bitcointalk users and subscribers of Gems and Koinify newsletter.
November 18, 2014, 08:13:22 PM
November 18, 2014, 08:04:04 PM
- Does one has to have an IOS device to be able to buy Gems during invite/public sale?
- I read Gems is using the Bitcoin Blockchain, does this mean i can send Gems to a Bitcoin address and vice versa?
- How many Gems does one receive for inviting a new person to the Network?
- What is an airdrop share? Since you mentioned air drop share is multiplied by total gems owned.
- Will Gems be available for trading after the crowdsale ends or from the start of the crowd sale?
- I read Gems is using the Bitcoin Blockchain, does this mean i can send Gems to a Bitcoin address and vice versa?
- How many Gems does one receive for inviting a new person to the Network?
- What is an airdrop share? Since you mentioned air drop share is multiplied by total gems owned.
- Will Gems be available for trading after the crowdsale ends or from the start of the crowd sale?
- You don't need to have an IOS device to be able to buy Gems during invite early bird/pre-sale. The Pre-Sale will be conducted by Koinify through Koinify's Platform at www.koinify.com. In order to achieve top buying process, buyers will receive their XGEMs tokens instantly in Koinify secured built-in platform wallet.
-The number XGEMs one receive for inviting a new person to the network isn't a fixed number. The current model of the "airdrop" gives incentive to early adopters, this is because the daily airdrop amount is fixed (~27,400 XGEMs) while the numbers of users joining the network every day will keep growing. For example: on day one 2 users join the network = each invite will be worth 13,700 XGEMs. on day thirty 100 users join the network = each invite will be worth 274 XGEMS.
- Airdrop share is calculated: (Total daily airdrop / number of new daily active users) X number of users you added to the network.
- XGEMs will not be available for trading during the pre-sale.
November 18, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
How is the team planing to get paid in the long run? Is it going to be solely from the crowd funding?
Pre-sale BTC + XGEMs will fund the development. In the long run the community can decide if the company should take a small fee from the advertisers payments to the users.
November 18, 2014, 07:34:01 PM
The video is out of date, saying the airdrop is 25m etc.
About the coin numbers, I don't want to spark a silly discussion about this like NEM has but 200m if that is correct is a terrible figure. Your first 10billion was much better, here's why. let's say you just had 1 billion coins and say you got mildly popular, like 1m users which is conservative, still hard to achieve but not a roaring success. Well you would only have 1000 coins per user and with uneven distribution most users would have less than 1 coin so the whole bitcoin decimal place thing becomes the norm. Now that is for 1 billion, imagine only 200m! Us Bitcoin users are acclimatised to fractions but to the mainstream it's not user friendly, people would much prefer and understand if they have a few hundred or thousand Gems than .372 of a GEM.
Personally think the coin amount should be in billions at least, possibly as much as 10bn, maybe even as much as 100 billion. seriously....I think you got nudged off your original figure from one user being critical. basically I'm saying you need to plan for success, even if you don't achieve it you have to assume it will be and then people will start saying why the hell did you only have 200m coins of you wanted to become mainstream?
About the coin numbers, I don't want to spark a silly discussion about this like NEM has but 200m if that is correct is a terrible figure. Your first 10billion was much better, here's why. let's say you just had 1 billion coins and say you got mildly popular, like 1m users which is conservative, still hard to achieve but not a roaring success. Well you would only have 1000 coins per user and with uneven distribution most users would have less than 1 coin so the whole bitcoin decimal place thing becomes the norm. Now that is for 1 billion, imagine only 200m! Us Bitcoin users are acclimatised to fractions but to the mainstream it's not user friendly, people would much prefer and understand if they have a few hundred or thousand Gems than .372 of a GEM.
Personally think the coin amount should be in billions at least, possibly as much as 10bn, maybe even as much as 100 billion. seriously....I think you got nudged off your original figure from one user being critical. basically I'm saying you need to plan for success, even if you don't achieve it you have to assume it will be and then people will start saying why the hell did you only have 200m coins of you wanted to become mainstream?
The total amount of XGEMs is 100,000,000 (the asset is locked: http://www.blockscan.com/asset.aspx?q=xgem)
XGEM can be divided down to 8 decimal places so it isn't a problem if Gems network grows at an exponential rate.
To avoid fractions in the future the app can display mXGEMs instead of XGEMs.
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