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Version 1.2.5 (third release, 25 June 2014)
* Windows build
* Added R9 290 optimized Kernel for Tahiti, Pitcairn and Hawaii GPUs
* Shows a warning if "optimized" kernel is used with incorrect pool



Sapphire R9 290 TriX, Sapphire R9 290 TriX, Gigabyte R9 270X

can you please share the config for 270x.
tnx

It's in the OP or example.conf file that comes with the miner. Start with exactly that and ONLY then start tweaking if necessary.

With the config in the OP:

[10:44:29] Started sgminer 1.2.5
[10:44:29] Started sgminer 1.2.5
[10:44:29] Loaded configuration file example.conf
[10:44:29] Optimized groestlcoin kernel invoked.
[10:44:29] Error -11: Building Program (clBuildProgram)
[10:44:29] Frontend phase failed compilation.
Error: Compilation from LLVMIR binary to IL text failed!
[10:44:29] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[10:44:29] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[10:44:29] Try restarting sgminer.
Press enter to continue:

sgminer 1.2.5 - Started: [2014-06-30 10:45:21]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ST: 1  SS: 0  NB: 1  LW: 3  GF: 0  RF: 0
Connected to GroestlCoinOptimized (stratum) diff 0.031 as user FnzMEE2fkX31J5Ejh
Block: 9cdb58f0...  Diff:25  Started: [10:45:21]  Best share: 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[P]ool management [G]PU management S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  30.0C 2002RPM | OFF   / 0.000h/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.000/m I:22
 GPU 1:  26.0C 2012RPM | OFF   / 0.000h/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.000/m I:22
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Error: Compilation from LLVMIR binary to IL text failed!
[10:45:20] Failed to init GPU thread 1, disabling device 1
[10:45:20] Probing for an alive pool
[10:45:21] AtheistCoinOptimized difficulty changed to 0.031
[10:45:21] DiamondCoinOptimized difficulty changed to 0.031
[10:45:21] GroestlCoinOptimized difficulty changed to 0.031
[10:45:21] DokdoCoinOptimized difficulty changed to 0.031
[10:45:21] Switching to AtheistCoinOptimized - first alive pool
[10:45:21] DiamondCoinOptimized alive, testing stability
[10:45:21] Switching to DiamondCoinOptimized
[10:45:21] GroestlCoinOptimized alive, testing stability
[10:45:21] Switching to GroestlCoinOptimized
[10:45:21] Network diff set to 25


and then the miner crashes...


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Quick question... Why is the Optimized kernel tied into exclusive pools. Something does not add up. Review the code on Github, a couple contributions and a hard coded link to a few sites with a multiplier.

At the end of the day what is your payout? If the code is an Optimization, it should be for all pools.

Are we missing something here? Some magic on the pool side?


Yeah, some people asked essentially the same question a few page back about the pool fee and so on.  srcxx never gives them a straight answer.  He only said somethings about " you getting paid for your hashrate....shown on sgminer..."     DEFINITELY NOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!

If you mine in these so called optimized pools,  you get robbed on 2 fronts.  

1) You only getting paid for 75% - 80% of your hashrate.   My rig of 5 R9 290 hashrate is about 100mhs on sgminer, but the pool reports a hashrate as high as 165mhs - the average is never less than 125mhs.  So I never get paid for the extra 25mhs to 65 mhs that the pool reported.

2)  You get wayyyys  less coin. <<< NOTE >>> srcxxx never discloses how much fee he charges for his pools.   @ 100mhs  I should get about 50- 60 diamond or 700-900 atheist coins.  The best I received for a 24hours mining is 45.2...... diamond coins or 560 something atheist coins.   If you do the math,  his pool fee is at least 10%.

And another thing when press for mining statistic,  he always give you the "software that I used is limited....lacking feature..." bull crap.  Hey srcxxx why don't you tell us upfront what is you pool fee and really give us the true hashrate instead of squimping.

Frankly,  I stop mining in his pool.  Yeah, you get a few extra meg of hash power, but you got rip off  big time.  Plus your mining equipments run must hotter and noisier ...  I can't stand the noise and heat generated from my rig. It's like scrypt mining all over again  --- DEFINITELY NOT WORTH THE FEW EXTRA MEG OF HASH POWER  --- YOU BETTER OFF MINING SOME OTHER POOLS FOR MORE COINS RETURN.


Although I understand your concern, I think that srcxxx has been quite clear on that, plus the pool does say there is no fee:



As for the hash rate, I beleive I am persoanlly getting paid for my hash power. You can not rely on what you see on the pool at a specific moment in time. What you see is not real time. There is a delay. This is valid for any pool. I am not even sure how you managed to calculate 125mhs on average. For that you would have needed to either refresh the page every 5 seconds or so during 24 hours and then make an average (whcih I don't think you did) or have access to the pool backend, which you dont have. The best way to see if you get paid properly is to mine for a full day, then add up all the transactions you got on a hourly basis. From there you can estimate the hashing power vs the average difficulty of that day. It should nornally match.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: after scrcxxx's posting in the DMD official Bitcointalk.org thread, there indeed seems to be a pool fee (see: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7611037)
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Version 1.2.5 (third release, 25 June 2014)
* Windows build
* Added R9 290 optimized Kernel for Tahiti, Pitcairn and Hawaii GPUs
* Shows a warning if "optimized" kernel is used with incorrect pool



Sapphire R9 290 TriX, Sapphire R9 290 TriX, Gigabyte R9 270X

can you please share the config for 270x.
tnx

It's in the OP or example.conf file that comes with the miner. Start with exactly that and ONLY then start tweaking if necessary.
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with 7950 not working Sad only rejections Sad
same on 7970 not working Sad

I recommend you read the OP. There are several things you should not forget:

1 - adding the normal-hashing parameter if mining DMD
2 - make sure you use the optimized kernel only with the 4 stratums mentionned in the OP. It will not work in other pools.
3 - use the default config posted in OP or available in the example.conf file that comes with the miner
4 - and most importantly, you should provide more detailed info. Saying you only get rejections is not very useful to figure out what you problem is. Perhaps posting your config file and a screenshot of sgminer or printout could be useful.

I don't see why with 7970 it cannot work. 280x is a 7970 rebranded so they should behave the same way. Only scrxxx can confirm this 100% though.

Hope this helps.
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Version 1.2.5 (third release, 25 June 2014)
* Windows build
* Added R9 290 optimized Kernel for Tahiti, Pitcairn and Hawaii GPUs
* Shows a warning if "optimized" kernel is used with incorrect pool



Sapphire R9 290 TriX, Sapphire R9 290 TriX, Gigabyte R9 270X

can you please share the config for 270x.
tnx
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Yeah, some people asked essentially the same question a few page back about the pool fee and so on.  srcxx never gives them a straight answer.  He only said somethings about " you getting paid for your hashrate....shown on sgminer..."     DEFINITELY NOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!

If you mine in these so called optimized pools,  you get robbed on 2 fronts.  

1) You only getting paid for 75% - 80% of your hashrate.   My rig of 5 R9 290 hashrate is about 100mhs on sgminer, but the pool reports a hashrate as high as 165mhs - the average is never less than 125mhs.  So I never get paid for the extra 25mhs to 65 mhs that the pool reported.

2)  You get wayyyys  less coin. <<< NOTE >>> srcxxx never discloses how much fee he charges for his pools.   @ 100mhs  I should get about 50- 60 diamond or 700-900 atheist coins.  The best I received for a 24hours mining is 45.2...... diamond coins or 560 something atheist coins.   If you do the math,  his pool fee is at least 10%.

And another thing when press for mining statistic,  he always give you the "software that I used is limited....lacking feature..." bull crap.  Hey srcxxx why don't you tell us upfront what is you pool fee and really give us the true hashrate instead of squimping.

Frankly,  I stop mining in his pool.  Yeah, you get a few extra meg of hash power, but you got rip off  big time.  Plus your mining equipments run must hotter and noisier ...  I can't stand the noise and heat generated from my rig. It's like scrypt mining all over again  --- DEFINITELY NOT WORTH THE FEW EXTRA MEG OF HASH POWER  --- YOU BETTER OFF MINING SOME OTHER POOLS FOR MORE COINS RETURN.


1.) on http://cryptohunger.com:81/ it says:

"No extra pool fees (what you see in grs-sgminer is what you are paid for)
No transaction fees"

2.) you quote "you getting paid for your hashrate....shown on sgminer..." and you mentioned your sgminer is 100mhs, so this is the accurate hashrate

3.) at 100mhs and looking at mining calculator in coinwarz for 24 hrs mining you should get these amount of diamond coins at these difficulties:
   36.57 = 55 difficulty
   40.23 = 50 difficulty
   44.70 = 45 difficulty
   50.29 = 40 difficulty

4.) i would like more detailed mining statistics too but i have yet to find a NOMP that has one, this is NOMP source https://github.com/zone117x/node-open-mining-portal/
    maybe you can point to one that has this feature already?

5.) as for the extra heat/watts vs extra hash gained, i havent put this into consideration, ill need to make some calculations to see which is more profitable for me
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with 7950 not working Sad only rejections Sad
same on 7970 not working Sad
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Memory speed is irrelevant on these kernel. Set it very low - the lower the better to reduce heat.  I set mine @ 150.

Setting memory clock at 150 Mhz doesn't change anything. The GPU's automatically brings the memclock back to 1500 MHz. At least it doesn't work for me.


You're right -- GPU always set memory to default speed.
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Quick question... Why is the Optimized kernel tied into exclusive pools. Something does not add up. Review the code on Github, a couple contributions and a hard coded link to a few sites with a multiplier.

At the end of the day what is your payout? If the code is an Optimization, it should be for all pools.

Are we missing something here? Some magic on the pool side?


Yeah, some people asked essentially the same question a few page back about the pool fee and so on.  srcxx never gives them a straight answer.  He only said somethings about " you getting paid for your hashrate....shown on sgminer..."     DEFINITELY NOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!

If you mine in these so called optimized pools,  you get robbed on 2 fronts. 

1) You only getting paid for 75% - 80% of your hashrate.   My rig of 5 R9 290 hashrate is about 100mhs on sgminer, but the pool reports a hashrate as high as 165mhs - the average is never less than 125mhs.  So I never get paid for the extra 25mhs to 65 mhs that the pool reported.

2)  You get wayyyys  less coin. <<< NOTE >>> srcxxx never discloses how much fee he charges for his pools.   @ 100mhs  I should get about 50- 60 diamond or 700-900 atheist coins.  The best I received for a 24hours mining is 45.2...... diamond coins or 560 something atheist coins.   If you do the math,  his pool fee is at least 10%.

And another thing when press for mining statistic,  he always give you the "software that I used is limited....lacking feature..." bull crap.  Hey srcxxx why don't you tell us upfront what is you pool fee and really give us the true hashrate instead of squimping.

Frankly,  I stop mining in his pool.  Yeah, you get a few extra meg of hash power, but you got rip off  big time.  Plus your mining equipments run must hotter and noisier ...  I can't stand the noise and heat generated from my rig. It's like scrypt mining all over again  --- DEFINITELY NOT WORTH THE FEW EXTRA MEG OF HASH POWER  --- YOU BETTER OFF MINING SOME OTHER POOLS FOR MORE COINS RETURN.
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Memory speed is irrelevant on these kernel. Set it very low - the lower the better to reduce heat.  I set mine @ 150.

Setting memory clock at 150 Mhz doesn't change anything. The GPU's automatically brings the memclock back to 1500 MHz. At least it doesn't work for me.
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when starting miner, i get an error 11, frontend error.
and miner crashes.
what have i done wrong? :-)
win 7, 64x  13.12 drivers with 4 280x gpus.

the same crap with 13.12 drivers, 280x, miner v1.2.5
no error with 14.4 drivers
no error with 13.12 if using .bop file from v1.2.4


Hello Ladies and Gents,  I have the same problem but I solve the frontend error by copying the followings 10 files from the Catalyst 14.6 Beta RC2 into the main grs-sgminer folder.

amdocl_as32
amdocl_as64
amdocl_ld32
amdocl_ld64

amd_opencl32.dll
amd_opencl64.dll
amdocl.dll
amdocl64.dll

amdmmcl.dl_
amdmmcl6.dl_

The above 10 files are in the ..\Packages\Drivers\Display\WB6A_INF. 
Hashrate is slightly lower - 15.5mhs on optimized kernel .... 14.8mhs on groestl kernel, using  Sapphire 280x Toxic @ 1150 engine.  Memory speed is irrelevant on these kernel. Set it very low - the lower the better to reduce heat.  I set mine @ 150.











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anyone using the optimized kernel on linux headless?

i get " File groestlcoinPitcairn256l8.bop not found. Cannot work in optimized
 mode. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anngroestlmyriadgroestl-pool-closed-652849"

when i try to run headless but when i run it normally no problem

Yes me. Hint: Look at the name of the bop file provided, and now look at the error: l4 at the end of the file name is the culprit Wink simply change l4 to l8.

Enjoy.
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anyone using the optimized kernel on linux headless?

i get " File groestlcoinPitcairn256l8.bop not found. Cannot work in optimized
 mode. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anngroestlmyriadgroestl-pool-closed-652849"

when i try to run headless but when i run it normally no problem
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Heavily disappointed that the optimized only works on a specific pool. Also, why can you not run dmd without --normal-hashing true? I would like to be able to switch between grs and dmd pools at will without having to take that config in and out.
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My result on groestl:
radeon 5870 (900Mhz, driver ver. 13.12) on the original groestlcoin.cl - 6.535 Mh, and on the optimized groestlcoin.cl - 6.91 Mh = better in 6%
radeon 270x (1180Mhz, driver ver. 14.6b) on the original groestlcoin.cl - 7.5 Mh, and on the optimized groestlcoin.cl - 7.87 Mh = better in 5%
radeon 7850 (1050Mhz, driver ver. 14.6b) on the original groestlcoin.cl - 5.18 Mh, and on the optimized groestlcoin.cl - 5.4 Mh = better in 5%
Version 1.2.4 (second release):
radeon 270x (1180Mhz, driver ver. 14.6b) - 8.81 Mh;
radeon 7850 (1050Mhz, driver ver. 14.6b) - 6.24 Mh.

Second best original release by ~18-20%, but is rigidly attached to the pool Developer  Sad
Version 1.2.5 (second release):
radeon 270x (1180Mhz, driver ver. 14.6b) - 10.2 Mh;
radeon 7850 (1050Mhz, driver ver. 14.6b) - 7.2 Mh.
...
More than 35% from the original acceleration - good, unfortunately it only works on developer pool ...
And when it will be possible to use it on older video cards 5870, 6850? ..
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Why am i getting this error?

Code:
Error -54: Enqueueing kermel onto command queue. 

GPU 1 failure, disabling!
GPU 2 failure, disabling!

If i use this it works just fine
Code:
],

"gpu-engine" : "1150,1150,900,900",
"gpu-memclock" : "900",
"intensity" : "22,22,22,22",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"temp-cutoff" : "90",
"temp-overheat" : "80",
"temp-target" : "76",
"gpu-fan" : "40-85",
"worksize" : "128",

"api-port" : "4028",
"kernel" : "GroestlCoin",
"gpu-powertune" : "20"
}

But if i want to use optimized instead of Groestlcoin it disables all my GPUs???
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Doesn't seem to work with the last generation of AMD cards. I only get rejects on HD 5xxx cards... DMD  Angry
work on Groestlcoin 6 Mh/s   Wink HD5850
 


Do u mine sharing your conf for 5850???
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Code:
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[P]ool management [G]PU management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  64.0C 3512RPM | 10.83M/10.95Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.171/m I:22
 GPU 1:  64.0C 3397RPM | 10.80M/10.92Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.241/m I:22
 GPU 2:  65.0C 3473RPM | 10.84M/10.96Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.176/m I:22
 GPU 3:  63.0C 3327RPM | 10.84M/10.96Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.211/m I:22

btw I had to rename the .bop file from groestlcoinTahiti256l4.bop to groestlcoinTahiti256l8.bop as I was getting an error at loading where it complained that groestlcoinTahiti256l8.bop could not be found.

Hi!

the l4 / l8 is the sizeof(long). So looks like "long int" is 8 bytes on your system.
Are you using linux?

I assume that it works ok after renaming, so I can probably safely get rid of "l4" in the end in next release.

What are your video cards? 7950?

Thanks

im on linux and this method worked for me too
i copied groestlcoinPitcairn256l4.bop to groestlcoinPitcairn256l8.bop

Specs:
OS = Ubuntu 12.04 64bit
GPU = 7850 1GB Pitcairn
driver =  14.6

Hashrates:
kernel groestlcoin = 6.1 Mh/s
kernel optimized = 7.86 Mh/s

result: 29% increase

my hashrate can be verified on cryptohunger workers with address dR254aoWk5XgMwgJDPBWZR3VR1K3UQ7WfQ
http://cryptohunger.com:81/workers

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Quick question... Why is the Optimized kernel tied into exclusive pools. Something does not add up. Review the code on Github, a couple contributions and a hard coded link to a few sites with a multiplier.

At the end of the day what is your payout? If the code is an Optimization, it should be for all pools.

Are we missing something here? Some magic on the pool side?
sce
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What are the righ settings for 290s? i only get 13mh/s per card i have the 14.6 beta drive win64, and this are my configurations:
Code:
-k groestlcoin -o stratum+tcp://cryptohunger.com:50003 -u AUQYw1YzJuyqT8H6As5qCLXEzUWskrJgYe -p x --lookup-gap 2 -I 19 -g 1 -w 128 --thread-concurrency 8192 --gpu-engine 0-0 --gpu-memclock 0 --auto-fan --gpu-fan 40-80 --temp-cutoff 92,92 --temp-overheat 85,85 --temp-target 75 --gpu-powertune 25

can you also post the righ confs for 7970 and yes i have tried docs.google.com/spreadsheets, another thing why i cant control the speed of my gpu fans?...

Hi!

Your parameters are not optimal.
Try to rename example.conf to sgminer.conf and run without command line params.
That example.conf is exactly my config file for R9 290

You need to increase intensity and increase gpu clock from default 947 to around 1050.

270x is only 7.8Mh(driver 14.6b,gpu 1180),how to running at 8.4Mh?

I don't know how you make 8.4Mh with 270x when I get 8.6mh with 270 dualx OC 1000/1400?
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