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It's getting more and more boring with your posts.
You're not going to bully me off the forum and I'm not going to get into a flame war with you.
My comments have all been in the best interest of the community, not your wallets.


Edit: I want iCoin to succeed too. To do that it needs to stick to it's #1 goal.
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@fablkak

Most of coins has premine and no one knows where it goes. Not only iCoin but also for another coins. If you agree to join the boat, you have to accept it. Or just quit, it's simple, i feel bored with lot of your posts. I think you better stop asking and showing Devs what to do with the premine. This is not your coin. If you really want do it your way, start a new coin then you have 100% control of it (are you trying to steal the "icoin" name? you are not able to find a good name so how can you do a good coin?). Best luck to you!

For me as long as the coin brings profit then it's ok. I invested in iCoin and with current market price i already have 125% profit. I'm very happy with this. But this is just bottom price, iCoin value will x10 in near future and may x100 when become mainsteam. This coin will be my long term investment.

Well iCoin price is up day by day. It's worth to invest and mining now.

ps: still no plan on IPO Devs?

Like I said, it was all constructive criticism. You obviously just want post positive comment after positive comment. Well this is a forum, and the definition of a forum is: "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged". That is exactly what I am doing, exchanging ideas.
To address your point about the premine, well as I have pointed out in earlier posts this 1% is actually a lot larger than most premined because it represents 1% of coins to be mined over 900 years. This puts an inordinate amount of power in the hands of one person who has chosen to remain anonymous and is reluctant to adopt transparency while at the same time asking for trust. I think some progress is being made in this area but it is still a legitimate concern. Telling me to just "go away" so you can make more money with (potentially) misplaced confidence is not going to work. Any rational investor would see all that power in the hands of a mystery man as a real risk. I have suggested ways to mitigate this risk for the benefit of the coin but you're not interested because you just want more people to pump before you dump.

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It's getting more and more boring with your posts. As i said, if you are not agree with the premine which stated when iCoin was released, don't join the boat at beginning. And there're so many coins out there with massive premine, you should go there and tell them how to use it too.

Not only the OP, but i also bored with your posts. Will not reply you any more. I better spend my time to earn money than replying you.
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@fablkak

Most of coins has premine and no one knows where it goes. Not only iCoin but also for another coins. If you agree to join the boat, you have to accept it. Or just quit, it's simple, i feel bored with lot of your posts. I think you better stop asking and showing Devs what to do with the premine. This is not your coin. If you really want do it your way, start a new coin then you have 100% control of it (are you trying to steal the "icoin" name? you are not able to find a good name so how can you do a good coin?). Best luck to you!

For me as long as the coin brings profit then it's ok. I invested in iCoin and with current market price i already have 125% profit. I'm very happy with this. But this is just bottom price, iCoin value will x10 in near future and may x100 when become mainsteam. This coin will be my long term investment.

Well iCoin price is up day by day. It's worth to invest and mining now.

ps: still no plan on IPO Devs?

Like I said, it was all constructive criticism. You obviously just want post positive comment after positive comment. Well this is a forum, and the definition of a forum is: "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged". That is exactly what I am doing, exchanging ideas.
To address your point about the premine, well as I have pointed out in earlier posts this 1% is actually a lot larger than most premines because it represents 1% of coins to be mined over 900 years. If you were of a suspicious disposition you may attribute this misleading premine to be a product of design rather than happenstance. This puts an inordinate amount of power in the hands of one person who has chosen to remain anonymous and is reluctant to adopt transparency while at the same time asking for trust. I think some progress is being made in this area but it is still a legitimate concern. Telling me to just "go away" so you can make more money with (potentially) misplaced confidence is not going to work. Any rational investor would see all that power in the hands of a mystery man as a real risk. Personally I would not trust some random guy on the internet to have such a large influence on the value of any coins that I buy/mine. I have suggested ways to mitigate this risk for the benefit of the coin but you're not interested because you just want more people to pump before you dump.

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WTB iCoin 0.25 BTC / 10k

Please stop messing this thread. You guys please use pm or email for sugguestions.
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@fablkak

Most of coins has premine and no one knows where it goes. Not only iCoin but also for another coins. If you agree to join the boat, you have to accept it. Or just quit, it's simple, i feel bored with lot of your posts. I think you better stop asking and showing Devs what to do with the premine. This is not your coin. If you really want do it your way, start a new coin then you have 100% control of it (are you trying to steal the "icoin" name? you are not able to find a good name so how can you do a good coin?). Best luck to you!

For me as long as the coin brings profit then it's ok. I invested in iCoin and with current market price i already have 125% profit. I'm very happy with this. But this is just bottom price, iCoin value will x10 in near future and may x100 when become mainsteam. This coin will be my long term investment.

Well iCoin price is up day by day. It's worth to invest and mining now.

ps: still no plan on IPO Devs?
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newbie
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@fablkak,

We understand your concern and despite CaptainHook's initial response, your constructive criticism is well accepted on my end. There are many members and many working parts dedicated to making iCoin a soaring success. Our premine distribution strategy and terms will be fully transparent on our new website (launching very soon!), and if you have specific questions and concerns in the meantime, feel free to PM me or Viperbass with those, and I'd love nothing more than to provide as much clarity as possible, and earning your respect as a valued member of the iCoin community. Again, transparency and trust are absolutely important factors for iCoin, but please forgive us as up until recently we had not developed a strategy for premine awareness and implementation. Look forward to talking soon! Smiley - BigRidg

Well put.
That is exactly the attitude the coin needs! I like you already BigRidg7.


ps: Nice to see that my 100% negative comments like these ones from the 29th https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4812556 have been of some use.
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@fablkak,

We understand your concern and despite CaptainHook's initial response, your constructive criticism is well accepted on my end. There are many members and many working parts dedicated to making iCoin a soaring success. Our premine distribution strategy and terms will be fully transparent on our new website (launching very soon!), and if you have specific questions and concerns in the meantime, feel free to PM me or Viperbass with those, and I'd love nothing more than to provide as much clarity as possible, and earning your respect as a valued member of the iCoin community. Again, transparency and trust are absolutely important factors for iCoin, but please forgive us as up until recently we had not developed a strategy for premine awareness and implementation. Look forward to talking soon! Smiley - BigRidg
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Before the big event start, we have a small giveaway for new facebook fan at https://www.facebook.com/pages/iCoin/781991915150770 or just a facebook status / tweet about iCoin.

Please post your ICN address and facebook status / tweet link here to get reward.

Enjoy!
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Please always bring up issues that are client related and any ideas on how you think we can improve things to gain trust with the community.


I have started to mine this coin again. Getting decent returns on cryptorush.

Speaking of trust, I was looking through the blockchain and I noticed that the premine has gone through many accounts and ended up here
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We can see that there is exactly this many coins remaining 4515468.9995 ICOIN (which is what you guys said it was)

If one was to look through the blockchain you can see when and where all the transactions occurred. If the dev wanted to build a little trust he could break them down for us and explain where the 500,000 or so coins went. They sure as hell weren't spend on promotion. In future if the dev was also transparent about transactions then he would gain a lot of trust.

Please I mean more than just "spent on give aways and promotion" I mean verifiable details. If he is not able to properly account for all of them well... that doesn't look good. It might not be my place to ask for this, but if you want some trust then this is one way to gain a little.

This is what the community needs to see:
from address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx
to address  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXX
amount:  30,000
reason: web page design

from address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx
to address  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXX
amount: 200,000
reason: joining dev team
etc
etc...

Just to account for the majority of the 500k.

That would make me feel better anyway, and the community would see it as an early warning sign if the dev starts to dump.



If Viperbass informs me the dev is a dumper I am ready to start a new iCoin, I have pm'd Viperbass but he hasn't responded. I will also be very transparent with the community by giving out
my real identity and anyone else who joins the team will need to do the same. Out of respect I am holding back to give this developer a chance to prove himself. The iCoin name
must live on.


My answer to you: NO to all of your requests. If you not feeling good, just leave the train.

It seems you are trying to scare us, right? We don't care what is your real identity, it's nothing to us or iCoin community. And we don't need you to give us a chance too. If you can make a coin or anything like that, just do, we just don't care whatever you do.

I just do research that those accounts with negative comments are just cloned accounts which 100% of their posts in this thread only and are trying to take over the coin or spreading negative news. Actually i ignored all your posts since the coin released, i won't be effected by your posts.

By the way, Viberpass is working as our PR excutive, not founder of iCoin. I and Viberpass, as well as others in team are working closely to push up iCoin to be mainsteam coin.

We are very busy planning a long term plan for iCoin, building services as well as rolling out biggest promotion in next few days. We don't have time to please some people just sitting there with no help and asking too much.

captainhook I think you mistake constructive criticism for some kind of an attack. If you had actually bothered to read my posts then you would see that I am pointing out legitimate fears and concerns that the community has. But I suppose that reading through forums isn't your job. What is your job by the way? Other than holding onto 4 million coins.
        Miners and investors alike try to make informed decisions on theirs investments because we want to avoid bad bets. I represent your average cautious miner/investor. I pointed our to others that the premine combined with a slow release rate is actually about two to three months worth of mining and I even proposed some ways in which you can allay these fears by spending and distributing the premine. I pointed out that it was unusual that for a premine of this size there were no plans to spend it and I believe I may have provided some impetus to move you along in this direction where your team has made progress.
       I also pointed out that I was having a problem sending coins. That seems to have been resolved but the wallet is still unstable and comes up with an error message when I close it.
       Lastly, when I directly respond to a request from a member of your team who was asking for ways to increase trust I gave a suggestion. It wasn't an attack it was advice, advice which I dare say you needed to hear and failed to heed.

      After pointing out most of the my concerns I had people telling me to leave the forum. Well I can tell you that for every shill telling me to bugger off there were probably another ten that wanted to hear it. Criticism might not be good for the people that just want positive comment after positive comment for a pump and dump scheme or something, but a little criticism can be a good thing if you're actually trying to improve. As I have pointed out, all of my concerns have been legitimate and the next time I have a legitimate concern you can bet your ass I'm going to point it out too. I don't think that anyone could read through my posts and honestly accuse me of being a cloned spam account or something. That was a foolish thing to say.

All in all captainhook I say that that was a very unprofessional reply to someone that is actually trying to help the community. Not you, the community.

To viperbass and other members of iCoin. Thank you for being professional and transparent. Knowing that viperbass has 571k made me breath a sigh of relief. So now the prmine has moved to this account BcD7WGWKua7p7x8RZj3ctqnYsBTsPheZ5J and it has shrunk big time to exactly 4015468.9995 ICOIN.
So, lets break it down because this IS something the community needs to see.
From an initial premine of 5M, 571K went to viperbass and there is 4M remaining... Where did the other 429,000 go?
I think 30k was spent on a website.
People joining the team might have all got 100,000 each or something. Which is fine, so long as we know where it is... which we don't, and if the response of captainhook  is anything to go by then we can expect more secrecy regarding the 80% of the remaining premine. captainhook there is a saying that you might not be familiar with, an honest man has nothing to hide. I believe that if you were honest you would not have squandered the opportunity I gave you to gain trust, which in case you haven't noticed is something you are a little short on at the moment.
My advice to the community now is to watch the money. If captainhook won't tell us where he is spending it we have to try and figure it out for ourselves.

Now to leave you all with a little joke, here is something from the icoin website. If this is what happened to #1 I feel sorry for whatever happened to #2 onwards, probably abandoned at birth and left bleeding from their umbilical cord in a ditch somewhere.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2ey9t9y.jpg


Edit: apologies for getting slightly more vitriolic than I intended. It's just that captainhook's attitude of hypocrisy, wilful ignorance and unprofessionalism really irks me. "Trust me, I'm not a scammer. Would a scammer say that?"

fablkak



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Thanks for the warm welcome Viperbass Smiley

Together, Reverb and I will be trying our best to work on growing this community as well as delivering information and answering all of your questions!

Now, as you guys can probably tell, we need to get more active as a community. One of the great ways to make that happen is coming together on IRC!
If you're not sure what this IRC thing is all about, just try it and join us! (#icoin @ Rizon)
https://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=icoin&uio=d4
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Alright I have just spent 3 hours chatting with CaptainHook.

If you now look at the account with 4.5 million premine, 500k has been sent to me giving me a total of 571k coins.

I have already spent 60k for services which you will see shortly and don't want to give away too much but all will be revealed Smiley

For the remaining 440k will be for services people will be offering for iCoin. We have 5 sections for the premine and we have included a new category
tonight which I can't reveal.

Now besides the boring financial stuff, I would like to announce that we have 2 additional members in the team:

Imperative and Reverb have joined the iCoin team as community managers and will be getting information from us just before the time
so they can feedback to the community. They will be responsible for IRC and future forum communication.

Should you have any questions they cannot answer on IRC/forums they will get the info from us and get back to you.

Also feel free to mail TeamICoin or myself for any questions.

I hope we have cleared up some trust issues and we can move on from here.


Thanks Viperbass. I will back off and support your team with iCoin, pls let me know if I can help with any dev.

The real mooncoin is here!
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Alright I have just spent 3 hours chatting with CaptainHook.

If you now look at the account with 4.5 million premine, 500k has been sent to me giving me a total of 571k coins.

I have already spent 60k for services which you will see shortly and don't want to give away too much but all will be revealed Smiley

For the remaining 440k will be for services people will be offering for iCoin. We have 5 sections for the premine and we have included a new category
tonight which I can't reveal.

Now besides the boring financial stuff, I would like to announce that we have 2 additional members in the team:

Imperative and Reverb have joined the iCoin team as community managers and will be getting information from us just before the time
so they can feedback to the community. They will be responsible for IRC and future forum communication.

Should you have any questions they cannot answer on IRC/forums they will get the info from us and get back to you.

Also feel free to mail TeamICoin or myself for any questions.

I hope we have cleared up some trust issues and we can move on from here.



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Paris, France.
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RTFM ;D

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So where is everyone from then? How far has Icoin expanded so far?

I'm from Oxford, united kingdom. Trying to get a few more folks into mining as i type Smiley
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So where is everyone from then? How far has Icoin expanded so far?

I'm from Oxford, united kingdom. Trying to get a few more folks into mining as i type Smiley

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So where is everyone from then? How far has Icoin expanded so far?

I'm from Oxford, united kingdom. Trying to get a few more folks into mining as i type Smiley
United States, Connecticut (New England).
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So where is everyone from then? How far has Icoin expanded so far?

I'm from Oxford, united kingdom. Trying to get a few more folks into mining as i type Smiley
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