Topic: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! - page 8. (Read 50895 times)

Hello folks,
i have been part of this fantastic campaign since the start and would like to compliment the campaign managers for the hard work they have put into this.
Angel token is an amazing project and i'm glad i was part of this.
Want to wish all the best for the ICO because the way it was managed, how it was presented it's a sign of competence and hard work.
Best regards and good luck in the future!

Lot's of questions, and yes we are here, just not "all the time"...

1. In regards to the dividend payout this is explained inside the white paper and also on the very first post here in this thread under: "The Main Purpose of Angel Token".


However, let me clarify this a bit further since you seem to assume that what is not paid out as dividends doesn't go back to the investors.

This is incorrect, apart from the management fee of between 0.75% and 1.5%, as explained in the white paper, 100% of all gains go towards the Angel Token holders in one form or another.

The only question is what is the RIGHT amount to pay as a dividend, and what is the RIGHT amount to keep inside the Angel Token portfolio to continue to grow the value of the portfolio, (which will then in turn grow the value of the Angel Token price and market cap).

We discuss this dilemma at some length inside the white paper, but here is a part of it for those that have not bothered to read it, (hint: never make investments without first reading the white paper!).


We do NOT have a referral program.

Please understand that Angel Token is NOT some form of MLM scheme or similar, it is more like a combination of an investment in a high-risk hedge fund and a "crypto incubator" for small-cap altcoins.

3. In regards to a minimum investment this question has been answered here already:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24380496


4. We strongly advise anyone who is considering investing in Angel Token to read the white paper and also the questions and answers in this thread, so they are 100% aware of what they are investing in. Please also join us on Slack over here: https://angelinvestors.io/slack where hundreds of investors are already on the "inside" and there is often many lively discussions going on.

BUMP - hey devs are you there??

What the minimum to buy ico

What is the soft-cap for this ICO - is there a limit of $ you need to raise to complete this project? What happens if you don't have the interest? Full refund of ETH deposited?
Do you have any referral program ?
Thanks

What is the dividend payout ratio?
Per quarter how much of the profit is paid out to members with > 10,000 coins?
How transparent will the financial statements be? Ie - disclosure of entry and exit points/amounts and subsequently what level of transparency will the insiders see where their money is going/divs getting paid out.

Good looking project - and I'm about to pull the trigger on a 10k bundle but I want to know that investors will be getting a decent peice of the profit pie first.
Cheers!
B

Hahaha no doubt!!

In one or two years from now, we will remember these days as the days we made the best investment of our lives. This is going to be an awesome ride my friends!!!! 

Great to have you inside the investor community, welcome!

Apart from the benefits you mention I guess another one is that you have a larger say in the community.

Votes will "weighted" to both the number of Angel tokens an investor has in his wallet, and also how long he/she has held them by our server-side script.

So the more Angel Tokens you own, (and the longer you have them) the more "power" you can have on the investment decisions we make.

We listen equally to everyone in the open forum, but when its time to vote the more Angel Tokens you own the more your vote counts.




Yes we will.

As soon as we agree on a partnership or make a a large investment in a coin we will want to let crypto investors know about it.

So yeah we will likely issue press releases for any major investment we make, but of course the private investors community will know long before that.

I agree that this is the best ICO ever, for many reason.

you are protect from a major loss when you invest.

The upside is huge because no one is going to sell their coins on the exchange, so the supply will be super limited. I mean who would sell their coins cheaper on the exchange when they can get an 80% refund on them anyway?? 

We get to see insider information and investment research before its released to the market, (btw will you be doing press releases about investments?) and get to see the coins that are going to be great investments before everyone else. THAT on it's own is worth like 10 ETH!

There is only one way for angel token, up to the sky, to fly with the angels! 

I have invested quite a lot in Angel Token and I am very happy and excited about my investment so far, no regrets! If I had any regrets would not matter anyway since I could just refund then! 

I love what you guys are doing and I am so excited about what is to come after the ICO! I think I might invest a bit more when its still at this bonus level.

Apart from that we make more money when angel token goes up in price, are there any other benefits to owning more than the minimum 10,000 tokens needed for the 'insider community' and dividends?

Welcome on board. 

Make sure you join our Slack community over here: https://angelinvestors.io/slack

We won't let you down! 

That is indeed great news azmojo! We now have our first exchange where people can begin trading (if they wish to) immediately after the ICO is over!

We hope to have another exchange listing as well in early January, but https://etherdelta.com/ is a great start!  



No.

It is nothing like paying for a "club membership".

When you pay for a club membership fee the money goes to club owners. When you invest in the Angel Token ICO we do not take those funds for ourselves.

Your investment does not go to us, (not even 8%, but in case someone is confused about that please ask!), it goes into the Angel Token portfolio to be used for investments.

You can think of Angel Token more as an aggressive and high-risk hedge fund, but with one major difference. We do not act like most funds do, as passive investors. Rather we act more like a "crypto incubator".

We are "angel investors", (hence the name Angel Token), in small to medium-cap altcoins.

However, what you are thinking of is indeed one of the core benefits of being an Angel Token investor, assuming you hold more than 10,000 tokens in your wallet.

You become a member of the Angel Token Private Investment Community, which is where we discuss research and potential investments with all of our stakeholders. Being part of the Angel Token Private Investment Community is a benefit because it allows you to have an active role and even potentially influence the investment decisions that Angel Token makes.

We welcome all members of the Private Investment Community to bring forward any investment proposals that they have, and share their research with all of us. We can then openly discuss this research, as well as the investment research brought forward by our own research team, and then we can vote as a community on the most interesting investment opportunities.

Despite that we are only few days into this ICO we have already had two investment proposal from Angel Token investors of projects/altcoins they think we should consider. One of them we consider very serious and interesting. The other one we haven't yet has a chance to look at closely. We will present these opportunities, as well as our own investment research and suggestions to the community after the ICO is over.

In short.

When you pay a fee to join a club, the club keeps your money.

When you invest in the Angel Token ICO your money goes into an investment fund that makes altcoin investments that benefits ALL Angel Token holders.

I suggest that you read the white paper and the previous discussions on this thread to understand better what we do.



Considered a security by whom?

There are several countries governments that have made statements to the effect that they may consider some or all tokens as securities, among them United States. We do not allow investors from the United States or these other countries who have made similar statements to take part in the Angel Token ICO, and we specifically block them from even entering the investment part of our website.

Now if you are concerned about us not being listed on certain exchanges for this reason that is a different issue and one we will tackle in due course. However, in principal you are correct that some exchanges may not allow Angel Token to be traded on their exchange for this reason or any other, if they choose not to.

We believe exchanges are moving towards decentralization, but either way, we do not believe Angel Token investors will have any problems finding exchanges to trade their tokens should they wish to come January. In fact, we are already listed on EtherDelta as mentioned above, so you can trade there from Day 1 after the ICO.  


Yes indeed they can.

Whales may buy a lot of the tokens because of the big bonuses we offer to early investors, and we hope they do.  

It is important to remember that there is only 1 million tokens for sale at each bonus level, and we have already passed several of them. We are now at 464% rather than 690% bonus, still very generous, but the longer the whales wait the less their advantage will be...


We believe that you are wrong, for several reasons, but even if turns out that you are correct, Angel Token will not fail because of it...

1. Everyone who is a member inside the Angel Token Private Investment Community owns a MINIMUM of 10,000 Angel Tokens. This means that they have already made a reasonably significant investment in Angel Token and it is therefore naturally in their interest that Angel Token succeeds.

That is the main reason for the 10,000 minimum in order to be a member of the private community. That we want everyone's goals to be aligned.


2. One major point you need to understand is that since Angel Token is acting as angel investors we are generally going to acquire our stake in the altcoins we invest in off the exchange market. We will be negotiating directly with the founders, early miners and other large stakeholders in those altcoin communities that we are looking to help and invest in.

You are right that there will likely be speculation and the market will move to some extent in those coins we are negotiating with, and those coins will also go up substantially once we have made a deal with the large stakeholders of that coin. However, this is in everyone's interest, that the price and market cap of those coins we invest in will rise. It benefits all Angel Token holders as the value of the portfolio increases.

There is no question that those who are on the inside of the Angel Token Private Investment Community will have an "unfair advantage" and will be able to buy into coins that we KNOW are going to rise, (because of the many improvements we are going to make to them, and the enhanced marketing efforts and so on), before the rest of the world does, but as long as this is not abused by members we don't think this will cause any significant problems, at least not over the long-term.


3. Members of the Angel Token Private Investment Community will have to agree to the terms and conditions of our community before being allowed in. Those terms and conditions include that they agree to abide by all laws in their jurisdiction as it pertains to insider trading. If they choose to break those laws to make profitable trades with the information they have gained inside the community, then they may be held accountable in their country if anyone finds out who they are. However, since cryptocurrencies and tokens are still largely unregulated in most parts of the world it is up to each member to research what laws apply to them in regards to this.

Being a member of the Angel Token Private Investment Community is not an absolute right, simply because you hold the minimum number of Angel Tokens. If we identify members who are abusing the information they have in a way that it hurts the rest of the community they will simply be blocked from the community. The same goes for disruptive or abusive members, they will be kicked out. David, our Community Investment Manager will be in charge of the community and make sure that people follow and agree to the rules we have, as far as is possible.


4. From our point of view we would obviously be concerned if members abuse their insider information in such a substantial way that it drives the prices so high that it jeopardizes the negotiations we are having with the large stakeholders of that coin, or makes it significantly more expensive for us to acquire the position we want. However, it is important to once again remember here that ALL members have a joint goal in seeing Angel Token investments succeed, because everyone is a token holder with a minimum of 10,000 Angel Tokens.

There are several countermeasures we can take if this would becomes a problem, including simply not revealing our final investments until the negotiations are over and we have secured our position. In this scenario we can likely still conduct most of the research openly, as long as there are several potential coins up for consideration (which is exactly how we see it happening) and then we simply hold back revealing the final choice that we made until the investment has been secured.


5. In those cases where we may need to acquire Angel Token's stake in a coin on the open market we may need to be more careful in exactly how open we are, even inside the private community, but we will review this on a case-by-case basis.


I am not sure I have relieved your concerns, but I have tried to answer your questions as best I can.

This ICO is NOT for everyone. It is high risk and we understand that the anonymity of the team (and investors!) is a concern for some people. However, it is how we have chosen to do this ICO, because we think it is the better way for everyone involved, but if you think it is not for you that is 100% ok!   No hard feelings, we promise!  

I am in with 1.49 eth. I hope everything goes fine.

Those are great questions from Supergain03. Mostly can subscribe under them. So expect devs to answer those in the most full and detailed way. Would prefer later but better.

Hello! There are certainly some red flags, but also they offer a special protection for the investors, and this somewhat may compensate the red flags. I have some questions:

1) Is this token basically a fee to join your club? And if it is, is there any interest to keep high the value of token?
I mean, fees are appealing when they are low, not high, and this could be a huge problem for the future appreciation of the token.

2) As you are distributing dividends, can angel token be considered as a security? Big exchanges are not prone to list new tokens if there is that risk.

3) Is there any maximum investment for each investor? Some whales could buy a lot of the tokens with this huge discount and control the token price.

4) You declare "members agree not to buy large stakes in investments that we are collectively
considering before such an investment has been made, nor reveal such ‘insider
information’  to  any  other  3rd  party. ".  
An agreement based on what? Is it just " I promise..."? Of course everyone will try to buy secretly as soon as possible. Insider trading does still exist in the regulated fields, think about the unregulated ones.
This agreement is going to fail and one of the main purpose of the project is at risk.

I think the idea is simply great but these are my main concerns.

Good news, ANGL token is listed with Etherdelta. The tokens are locked but when they are released you will be able to trade them there: https://etherdelta.com/#ANGL-ETH

Thanks a lot for some laugh. In days to come I will have tonnes of joy trolling those guys that they are only one small cheater. There is a problem that they are online at the same time printing the answers at the same time - but! it can be a special AI slack algorithm for the ICO.

Angel Token is a "crypto incubator" for small-cap altcoins, allowing you to CREATE WEALTH as an "Angel Investor", rather than passively wait for your investments to rise.

Together we invest in overlooked and undervalued cryptocurrencies.

Our skilled team improves their functionality, visibility and marketing.

With our innovative GUARANTEED INVESTOR REFUND built into the thoroughly checked Smart Contract, you are protected from losing more than 20% until March 7th '18. If you are not happy with our performance you can get your investment back.

How much would you pay to be part of a private community like this?

It only costs 1.41 ETH to be inside the Angel Token investment community at the current bonus level!  

LLec is a Hero Member on Bitcointalk. So i believe he is here at Bitcointalk since a lot of years ago. For me, they are a serious team and know about what they are doing.