Topic: █[ANN][ICO] Dogezer - Next-Gen Collaborative Platform for Software Development █ - page 7. (Read 12287 times)
February 15, 2018, 11:50:07 AM
Good afternoon! You have a very serious approach, thank you for your work!
February 15, 2018, 08:14:07 AM
🔝Dogezer Public Sale has just started!!! 🚀🚀🚀https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/34847796/public_started_.jpg
I was waiting for this !!! 
February 15, 2018, 08:13:15 AM
How does the platform determine the best employees?
Each user and project is assigned with a number of skill tags, describing skills required for a particular project and defining a user’s experience or specialty skills. In addition to this, every project is assigned a rating, which is based on how active, responsive and fair to team members this project owner has been.
Every user is assigned a "karma" that describes how positive, fair, reliable and cooperative that person has been. These mechanisms are utilized to improve users-to-projects matching and to build effective and reliable teams that will drive projects to success. It is expected that hiring a user for a single issue or task will be a somewhat rare case on Dogezer. It will be more common to build a team of people with appropriate skills who express interest in the project, and then distribute tasks within such team.
The task distribution can be based on the project owner’s suggestions, interest of a team member, or through auctions where team members can compete with each other, encouraging a faster resolution and/or a cheaper price. Projects may have multiple teams within the main team. For example: management team, core development team, extended development team, design team, etc.
The project owner defines the teams and team permissions. Users are then invited to join one or more teams within the project and can then be moved from one team to another by the project owner. The project owner’s role is also not fully fixed. If required, the project owner can invite more people to join a special “Project Owners” team and reassign some of his responsibilities to these people.
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 15, 2018, 08:04:43 AM
🔝Dogezer Public Sale has just started!!! 🚀🚀🚀
February 14, 2018, 12:50:42 PM
How does the platform determine the best employees?
Each user and project is assigned with a number of skill tags, describing skills required for a particular project and defining a user’s experience or specialty skills. In addition to this, every project is assigned a rating, which is based on how active, responsive and fair to team members this project owner has been.
Every user is assigned a "karma" that describes how positive, fair, reliable and cooperative that person has been. These mechanisms are utilized to improve users-to-projects matching and to build effective and reliable teams that will drive projects to success. It is expected that hiring a user for a single issue or task will be a somewhat rare case on Dogezer. It will be more common to build a team of people with appropriate skills who express interest in the project, and then distribute tasks within such team.
The task distribution can be based on the project owner’s suggestions, interest of a team member, or through auctions where team members can compete with each other, encouraging a faster resolution and/or a cheaper price. Projects may have multiple teams within the main team. For example: management team, core development team, extended development team, design team, etc.
The project owner defines the teams and team permissions. Users are then invited to join one or more teams within the project and can then be moved from one team to another by the project owner. The project owner’s role is also not fully fixed. If required, the project owner can invite more people to join a special “Project Owners” team and reassign some of his responsibilities to these people.
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 14, 2018, 10:31:29 AM
Dear friends , we are happy to remind you that:
, we are happy to remind you that:Dogezer Public ICO starts Feb 15th, 13:00 UTC
February 14, 2018, 08:12:58 AM
How does the platform determine the best employees?
February 14, 2018, 07:04:10 AM
Dear community members, our Open ICO is about to start very soon now. Please read this post carefully and make sure to only use official website and other official links!
The only official website is https://dogezer.com/
The only official telegram chat is https://t.me/dogezer
Public ICO dates: Feb 15th, 13:00 UTC - March 8th, 13:00 UTC
👹Beware of scammers! 👹
THE ONLY TRUE SOURCE OF DOGEZER SMART CONTRACT IS AT https://dogezer.com/
Never ever anyone from Dogezer team will ping you in private asking to orchestrate a sale for you. Be careful!
Don't send funds to any other contracts you learned about in private messages or any other methods, even if they look like coming from Dogezer's Team.
Official links:
Website - https://dogezer.com/
White paper - https://dogezer.com/static/files/Dogezer_Whitepaper_14_34.pdf
Bitcointalk thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Bounty telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_bounty
Medium - https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxaU9UXzG7VvjHhnlmmSmJA
Telegram official chats:
Official Russian telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_rus
Official Chinese telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_cn
Official Korean telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_ko
Please be careful, you can take part in the token sale ONLY at
https://dogezer.com/
❌ANY OTHER WEBSITE IS A SCAM❌
Support or other requests:
[email protected]
✨Don't miss the token sale!
Fill in your email at our website - https://dogezer.com/
The only official website is https://dogezer.com/
The only official telegram chat is https://t.me/dogezer
Public ICO dates: Feb 15th, 13:00 UTC - March 8th, 13:00 UTC
👹Beware of scammers! 👹
THE ONLY TRUE SOURCE OF DOGEZER SMART CONTRACT IS AT https://dogezer.com/
Never ever anyone from Dogezer team will ping you in private asking to orchestrate a sale for you. Be careful!
Don't send funds to any other contracts you learned about in private messages or any other methods, even if they look like coming from Dogezer's Team.
Official links:
Website - https://dogezer.com/
White paper - https://dogezer.com/static/files/Dogezer_Whitepaper_14_34.pdf
Bitcointalk thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Bounty telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_bounty
Medium - https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxaU9UXzG7VvjHhnlmmSmJA
Telegram official chats:
Official Russian telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_rus
Official Chinese telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_cn
Official Korean telegram chat - https://t.me/dogezer_ko
Please be careful, you can take part in the token sale ONLY at
https://dogezer.com/
❌ANY OTHER WEBSITE IS A SCAM❌
Support or other requests:
[email protected]
✨Don't miss the token sale!
Fill in your email at our website - https://dogezer.com/
February 14, 2018, 05:54:34 AM
Hello! I wish you success!
Hello! Thank you very much for your feedback!Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 13, 2018, 05:26:58 AM
Hello! I wish you success!
February 12, 2018, 01:52:50 PM
DAICO and Iterative Investments by Dogezer
An alternative to DAICO model proposed by Vitalik Buterin
UPDATE: We received a response from Vitalik through ethresear.ch on our proposal. His words are: “This is actually quite similar to how MakerDAO launched. I fully support this kind of mechanism.”
In attempt to overcome some of the problems current ICO market has, Vitalik Buterin and his team came out with the concept of DAICO. The idea is based on the merging concepts of DAO with the ICO concept, where investors can control the way how funds are withdrawn from the smartcontract.
While this concept really solves some of the questions and is a step forward towards a more reasonable ICO market, we feel that there are still some challenges to be handled. Most of these questions are related to the way how disciplined should be investors to really make reasonable decisions, and what will happen if short term motivation of investors prevails long term product development goals (Would investors initiate the refund, if the valuation of all tokens is less than the valuation of ETH which can be received as a refund? Do we expect the market to rebalance for this situation, making the price of all project tokens to be always equal or better than the price of ETH left on a smartcontract, and if it falls down — is a project closed almost immediately?)
We here at Dogezer would like to propose a different approach to solve the same set of problems:
1. Project team generates their token and defines the basic price for their token (e.g. 0.001 ETH per token).
2. The ETH/$ value of all tokens generated is enough for the project to complete the development, or more realistically, to make the project reach the break-even point. (With some reserve in mind).
3. The tokens are not for SALE by project owners. The smartcontract, which holds the tokens, doesn’t really have the “payable” function. *** Note the variation below ****
4. But tokens inside the smartcontract can be used to pay for the job being done by developers, designers, managers, salespersons and others working on the product.
5. These payments are available for review by a third party (potential investors) which could validate that the amount paid is reasonable and the project really moves in the right direction. For example, every issue in the project issue tracker is recorded into a public ledger with information on what that issue is and associated transaction.
6. Such payment can happen exclusively in the project tokens, but, if required, can happen as a combination of project tokens and traditionally established fiat or cryptocurrencies (may be outside of the publicly accessible ledger)
7. People who have earned the coins are free to sell these coins on an open market to multiple investors (for example, through EtherDelta or a separate smartcontract as described below).
8. Investors are buying the tokens from people who actually put effort to move the product further, rather than buying them from the project owner.
Optionally, to ensure that there is a demand from investors to buy tokens from developers, investors can send funds to another smartcontract — a smartcontract used to demonstrate the interest of the crowd towards the project:
Developers can send “sell” their tokens to this smartcontract for ETH stored in it.
Investors can withdraw funds from that contract after some period of time (for example 1 month) if they feel they don’t want to be a part of this project anymore.
As a result, there is no actual “ICO” event — but there is something which we call an “Iterative Investment”. Investors are buying only when the project progresses forward. Chances that the funds are misused are minimized. On the early stages, project owners overpay developers paying them more in “project tokens” than they would normally pay in dollars. Developers sell that to investors with discounts to account for the risk taken. On further stages, when it is clear that the project is moving in the right direction — these premiums/discounts become smaller and smaller.
In case if project nature requires some real funds for some asset (not lambos) — then a smartcontract may be adjusted to release a fixed amount of tokens for sale proportionally to the funds spent to pay development team.
The biggest problem in this concept is the need to be able to review transactions to really confirm that the token payments done are matching the real job done. At https://dogezer.com we solve that by providing our own set of tools and a special role of a “Watcher” in a team to be able to track the progress. Other solutions may require manual logging of a task completed into each token transaction or publicly accessible report being periodically published by the project owner.
Would appreciate comments and critique!
To find out more about Dogezer:
Website: https://dogezer.com
Alpha Version: https://dogezer.io
Telegram: https://t.me/dogezer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom
Medium: https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Bitcointalk.org: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
An alternative to DAICO model proposed by Vitalik Buterin
UPDATE: We received a response from Vitalik through ethresear.ch on our proposal. His words are: “This is actually quite similar to how MakerDAO launched. I fully support this kind of mechanism.”
In attempt to overcome some of the problems current ICO market has, Vitalik Buterin and his team came out with the concept of DAICO. The idea is based on the merging concepts of DAO with the ICO concept, where investors can control the way how funds are withdrawn from the smartcontract.
While this concept really solves some of the questions and is a step forward towards a more reasonable ICO market, we feel that there are still some challenges to be handled. Most of these questions are related to the way how disciplined should be investors to really make reasonable decisions, and what will happen if short term motivation of investors prevails long term product development goals (Would investors initiate the refund, if the valuation of all tokens is less than the valuation of ETH which can be received as a refund? Do we expect the market to rebalance for this situation, making the price of all project tokens to be always equal or better than the price of ETH left on a smartcontract, and if it falls down — is a project closed almost immediately?)
We here at Dogezer would like to propose a different approach to solve the same set of problems:
1. Project team generates their token and defines the basic price for their token (e.g. 0.001 ETH per token).
2. The ETH/$ value of all tokens generated is enough for the project to complete the development, or more realistically, to make the project reach the break-even point. (With some reserve in mind).
3. The tokens are not for SALE by project owners. The smartcontract, which holds the tokens, doesn’t really have the “payable” function. *** Note the variation below ****
4. But tokens inside the smartcontract can be used to pay for the job being done by developers, designers, managers, salespersons and others working on the product.
5. These payments are available for review by a third party (potential investors) which could validate that the amount paid is reasonable and the project really moves in the right direction. For example, every issue in the project issue tracker is recorded into a public ledger with information on what that issue is and associated transaction.
6. Such payment can happen exclusively in the project tokens, but, if required, can happen as a combination of project tokens and traditionally established fiat or cryptocurrencies (may be outside of the publicly accessible ledger)
7. People who have earned the coins are free to sell these coins on an open market to multiple investors (for example, through EtherDelta or a separate smartcontract as described below).
8. Investors are buying the tokens from people who actually put effort to move the product further, rather than buying them from the project owner.
Optionally, to ensure that there is a demand from investors to buy tokens from developers, investors can send funds to another smartcontract — a smartcontract used to demonstrate the interest of the crowd towards the project:
Developers can send “sell” their tokens to this smartcontract for ETH stored in it.
Investors can withdraw funds from that contract after some period of time (for example 1 month) if they feel they don’t want to be a part of this project anymore.
As a result, there is no actual “ICO” event — but there is something which we call an “Iterative Investment”. Investors are buying only when the project progresses forward. Chances that the funds are misused are minimized. On the early stages, project owners overpay developers paying them more in “project tokens” than they would normally pay in dollars. Developers sell that to investors with discounts to account for the risk taken. On further stages, when it is clear that the project is moving in the right direction — these premiums/discounts become smaller and smaller.
In case if project nature requires some real funds for some asset (not lambos) — then a smartcontract may be adjusted to release a fixed amount of tokens for sale proportionally to the funds spent to pay development team.
The biggest problem in this concept is the need to be able to review transactions to really confirm that the token payments done are matching the real job done. At https://dogezer.com we solve that by providing our own set of tools and a special role of a “Watcher” in a team to be able to track the progress. Other solutions may require manual logging of a task completed into each token transaction or publicly accessible report being periodically published by the project owner.
Would appreciate comments and critique!
To find out more about Dogezer:
Website: https://dogezer.com
Alpha Version: https://dogezer.io
Telegram: https://t.me/dogezer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom
Medium: https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Bitcointalk.org: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
Translated for the German community
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30139582
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 12, 2018, 01:09:18 PM
How can I find employees on the platform?
Hello!One of the key features of Dogezer is to connect the projects which need work to be done with the users who are able to execute the job. This is achieved with the help of two marketplaces:
• Projects marketplace, where willing users can review projects and send the project owner a request to join in.
• Users marketplace, where project owners can hunt for team members who can join their project and help to drive it further.
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 12, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
DAICO and Iterative Investments by Dogezer
An alternative to DAICO model proposed by Vitalik Buterin
UPDATE: We received a response from Vitalik through ethresear.ch on our proposal. His words are: “This is actually quite similar to how MakerDAO launched. I fully support this kind of mechanism.”
In attempt to overcome some of the problems current ICO market has, Vitalik Buterin and his team came out with the concept of DAICO. The idea is based on the merging concepts of DAO with the ICO concept, where investors can control the way how funds are withdrawn from the smartcontract.
While this concept really solves some of the questions and is a step forward towards a more reasonable ICO market, we feel that there are still some challenges to be handled. Most of these questions are related to the way how disciplined should be investors to really make reasonable decisions, and what will happen if short term motivation of investors prevails long term product development goals (Would investors initiate the refund, if the valuation of all tokens is less than the valuation of ETH which can be received as a refund? Do we expect the market to rebalance for this situation, making the price of all project tokens to be always equal or better than the price of ETH left on a smartcontract, and if it falls down — is a project closed almost immediately?)
We here at Dogezer would like to propose a different approach to solve the same set of problems:
1. Project team generates their token and defines the basic price for their token (e.g. 0.001 ETH per token).
2. The ETH/$ value of all tokens generated is enough for the project to complete the development, or more realistically, to make the project reach the break-even point. (With some reserve in mind).
3. The tokens are not for SALE by project owners. The smartcontract, which holds the tokens, doesn’t really have the “payable” function. *** Note the variation below ****
4. But tokens inside the smartcontract can be used to pay for the job being done by developers, designers, managers, salespersons and others working on the product.
5. These payments are available for review by a third party (potential investors) which could validate that the amount paid is reasonable and the project really moves in the right direction. For example, every issue in the project issue tracker is recorded into a public ledger with information on what that issue is and associated transaction.
6. Such payment can happen exclusively in the project tokens, but, if required, can happen as a combination of project tokens and traditionally established fiat or cryptocurrencies (may be outside of the publicly accessible ledger)
7. People who have earned the coins are free to sell these coins on an open market to multiple investors (for example, through EtherDelta or a separate smartcontract as described below).
8. Investors are buying the tokens from people who actually put effort to move the product further, rather than buying them from the project owner.
Optionally, to ensure that there is a demand from investors to buy tokens from developers, investors can send funds to another smartcontract — a smartcontract used to demonstrate the interest of the crowd towards the project:
Developers can send “sell” their tokens to this smartcontract for ETH stored in it.
Investors can withdraw funds from that contract after some period of time (for example 1 month) if they feel they don’t want to be a part of this project anymore.
As a result, there is no actual “ICO” event — but there is something which we call an “Iterative Investment”. Investors are buying only when the project progresses forward. Chances that the funds are misused are minimized. On the early stages, project owners overpay developers paying them more in “project tokens” than they would normally pay in dollars. Developers sell that to investors with discounts to account for the risk taken. On further stages, when it is clear that the project is moving in the right direction — these premiums/discounts become smaller and smaller.
In case if project nature requires some real funds for some asset (not lambos) — then a smartcontract may be adjusted to release a fixed amount of tokens for sale proportionally to the funds spent to pay development team.
The biggest problem in this concept is the need to be able to review transactions to really confirm that the token payments done are matching the real job done. At https://dogezer.com we solve that by providing our own set of tools and a special role of a “Watcher” in a team to be able to track the progress. Other solutions may require manual logging of a task completed into each token transaction or publicly accessible report being periodically published by the project owner.
Would appreciate comments and critique!
To find out more about Dogezer:
Website: https://dogezer.com
Alpha Version: https://dogezer.io
Telegram: https://t.me/dogezer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom
Medium: https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Bitcointalk.org: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
An alternative to DAICO model proposed by Vitalik Buterin
UPDATE: We received a response from Vitalik through ethresear.ch on our proposal. His words are: “This is actually quite similar to how MakerDAO launched. I fully support this kind of mechanism.”
In attempt to overcome some of the problems current ICO market has, Vitalik Buterin and his team came out with the concept of DAICO. The idea is based on the merging concepts of DAO with the ICO concept, where investors can control the way how funds are withdrawn from the smartcontract.
While this concept really solves some of the questions and is a step forward towards a more reasonable ICO market, we feel that there are still some challenges to be handled. Most of these questions are related to the way how disciplined should be investors to really make reasonable decisions, and what will happen if short term motivation of investors prevails long term product development goals (Would investors initiate the refund, if the valuation of all tokens is less than the valuation of ETH which can be received as a refund? Do we expect the market to rebalance for this situation, making the price of all project tokens to be always equal or better than the price of ETH left on a smartcontract, and if it falls down — is a project closed almost immediately?)
We here at Dogezer would like to propose a different approach to solve the same set of problems:
1. Project team generates their token and defines the basic price for their token (e.g. 0.001 ETH per token).
2. The ETH/$ value of all tokens generated is enough for the project to complete the development, or more realistically, to make the project reach the break-even point. (With some reserve in mind).
3. The tokens are not for SALE by project owners. The smartcontract, which holds the tokens, doesn’t really have the “payable” function. *** Note the variation below ****
4. But tokens inside the smartcontract can be used to pay for the job being done by developers, designers, managers, salespersons and others working on the product.
5. These payments are available for review by a third party (potential investors) which could validate that the amount paid is reasonable and the project really moves in the right direction. For example, every issue in the project issue tracker is recorded into a public ledger with information on what that issue is and associated transaction.
6. Such payment can happen exclusively in the project tokens, but, if required, can happen as a combination of project tokens and traditionally established fiat or cryptocurrencies (may be outside of the publicly accessible ledger)
7. People who have earned the coins are free to sell these coins on an open market to multiple investors (for example, through EtherDelta or a separate smartcontract as described below).
8. Investors are buying the tokens from people who actually put effort to move the product further, rather than buying them from the project owner.
Optionally, to ensure that there is a demand from investors to buy tokens from developers, investors can send funds to another smartcontract — a smartcontract used to demonstrate the interest of the crowd towards the project:
Developers can send “sell” their tokens to this smartcontract for ETH stored in it.
Investors can withdraw funds from that contract after some period of time (for example 1 month) if they feel they don’t want to be a part of this project anymore.
As a result, there is no actual “ICO” event — but there is something which we call an “Iterative Investment”. Investors are buying only when the project progresses forward. Chances that the funds are misused are minimized. On the early stages, project owners overpay developers paying them more in “project tokens” than they would normally pay in dollars. Developers sell that to investors with discounts to account for the risk taken. On further stages, when it is clear that the project is moving in the right direction — these premiums/discounts become smaller and smaller.
In case if project nature requires some real funds for some asset (not lambos) — then a smartcontract may be adjusted to release a fixed amount of tokens for sale proportionally to the funds spent to pay development team.
The biggest problem in this concept is the need to be able to review transactions to really confirm that the token payments done are matching the real job done. At https://dogezer.com we solve that by providing our own set of tools and a special role of a “Watcher” in a team to be able to track the progress. Other solutions may require manual logging of a task completed into each token transaction or publicly accessible report being periodically published by the project owner.
Would appreciate comments and critique!
To find out more about Dogezer:
Website: https://dogezer.com
Alpha Version: https://dogezer.io
Telegram: https://t.me/dogezer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom
Medium: https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Bitcointalk.org: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
Translated for the German community
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30139582
February 12, 2018, 07:58:15 AM
How can I find employees on the platform?
February 12, 2018, 02:39:02 AM
DAICO and Iterative Investments by Dogezer
An alternative to DAICO model proposed by Vitalik Buterin
UPDATE: We received a response from Vitalik through ethresear.ch on our proposal. His words are: “This is actually quite similar to how MakerDAO launched. I fully support this kind of mechanism.”
In attempt to overcome some of the problems current ICO market has, Vitalik Buterin and his team came out with the concept of DAICO. The idea is based on the merging concepts of DAO with the ICO concept, where investors can control the way how funds are withdrawn from the smartcontract.
While this concept really solves some of the questions and is a step forward towards a more reasonable ICO market, we feel that there are still some challenges to be handled. Most of these questions are related to the way how disciplined should be investors to really make reasonable decisions, and what will happen if short term motivation of investors prevails long term product development goals (Would investors initiate the refund, if the valuation of all tokens is less than the valuation of ETH which can be received as a refund? Do we expect the market to rebalance for this situation, making the price of all project tokens to be always equal or better than the price of ETH left on a smartcontract, and if it falls down — is a project closed almost immediately?)
We here at Dogezer would like to propose a different approach to solve the same set of problems:
1. Project team generates their token and defines the basic price for their token (e.g. 0.001 ETH per token).
2. The ETH/$ value of all tokens generated is enough for the project to complete the development, or more realistically, to make the project reach the break-even point. (With some reserve in mind).
3. The tokens are not for SALE by project owners. The smartcontract, which holds the tokens, doesn’t really have the “payable” function. *** Note the variation below ****
4. But tokens inside the smartcontract can be used to pay for the job being done by developers, designers, managers, salespersons and others working on the product.
5. These payments are available for review by a third party (potential investors) which could validate that the amount paid is reasonable and the project really moves in the right direction. For example, every issue in the project issue tracker is recorded into a public ledger with information on what that issue is and associated transaction.
6. Such payment can happen exclusively in the project tokens, but, if required, can happen as a combination of project tokens and traditionally established fiat or cryptocurrencies (may be outside of the publicly accessible ledger)
7. People who have earned the coins are free to sell these coins on an open market to multiple investors (for example, through EtherDelta or a separate smartcontract as described below).
8. Investors are buying the tokens from people who actually put effort to move the product further, rather than buying them from the project owner.
Optionally, to ensure that there is a demand from investors to buy tokens from developers, investors can send funds to another smartcontract — a smartcontract used to demonstrate the interest of the crowd towards the project:
Developers can send “sell” their tokens to this smartcontract for ETH stored in it.
Investors can withdraw funds from that contract after some period of time (for example 1 month) if they feel they don’t want to be a part of this project anymore.
As a result, there is no actual “ICO” event — but there is something which we call an “Iterative Investment”. Investors are buying only when the project progresses forward. Chances that the funds are misused are minimized. On the early stages, project owners overpay developers paying them more in “project tokens” than they would normally pay in dollars. Developers sell that to investors with discounts to account for the risk taken. On further stages, when it is clear that the project is moving in the right direction — these premiums/discounts become smaller and smaller.
In case if project nature requires some real funds for some asset (not lambos) — then a smartcontract may be adjusted to release a fixed amount of tokens for sale proportionally to the funds spent to pay development team.
The biggest problem in this concept is the need to be able to review transactions to really confirm that the token payments done are matching the real job done. At https://dogezer.com we solve that by providing our own set of tools and a special role of a “Watcher” in a team to be able to track the progress. Other solutions may require manual logging of a task completed into each token transaction or publicly accessible report being periodically published by the project owner.
Would appreciate comments and critique!
To find out more about Dogezer:
Website: https://dogezer.com
Alpha Version: https://dogezer.io
Telegram: https://t.me/dogezer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom
Medium: https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Bitcointalk.org: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
An alternative to DAICO model proposed by Vitalik Buterin
UPDATE: We received a response from Vitalik through ethresear.ch on our proposal. His words are: “This is actually quite similar to how MakerDAO launched. I fully support this kind of mechanism.”
In attempt to overcome some of the problems current ICO market has, Vitalik Buterin and his team came out with the concept of DAICO. The idea is based on the merging concepts of DAO with the ICO concept, where investors can control the way how funds are withdrawn from the smartcontract.
While this concept really solves some of the questions and is a step forward towards a more reasonable ICO market, we feel that there are still some challenges to be handled. Most of these questions are related to the way how disciplined should be investors to really make reasonable decisions, and what will happen if short term motivation of investors prevails long term product development goals (Would investors initiate the refund, if the valuation of all tokens is less than the valuation of ETH which can be received as a refund? Do we expect the market to rebalance for this situation, making the price of all project tokens to be always equal or better than the price of ETH left on a smartcontract, and if it falls down — is a project closed almost immediately?)
We here at Dogezer would like to propose a different approach to solve the same set of problems:
1. Project team generates their token and defines the basic price for their token (e.g. 0.001 ETH per token).
2. The ETH/$ value of all tokens generated is enough for the project to complete the development, or more realistically, to make the project reach the break-even point. (With some reserve in mind).
3. The tokens are not for SALE by project owners. The smartcontract, which holds the tokens, doesn’t really have the “payable” function. *** Note the variation below ****
4. But tokens inside the smartcontract can be used to pay for the job being done by developers, designers, managers, salespersons and others working on the product.
5. These payments are available for review by a third party (potential investors) which could validate that the amount paid is reasonable and the project really moves in the right direction. For example, every issue in the project issue tracker is recorded into a public ledger with information on what that issue is and associated transaction.
6. Such payment can happen exclusively in the project tokens, but, if required, can happen as a combination of project tokens and traditionally established fiat or cryptocurrencies (may be outside of the publicly accessible ledger)
7. People who have earned the coins are free to sell these coins on an open market to multiple investors (for example, through EtherDelta or a separate smartcontract as described below).
8. Investors are buying the tokens from people who actually put effort to move the product further, rather than buying them from the project owner.
Optionally, to ensure that there is a demand from investors to buy tokens from developers, investors can send funds to another smartcontract — a smartcontract used to demonstrate the interest of the crowd towards the project:
Developers can send “sell” their tokens to this smartcontract for ETH stored in it.
Investors can withdraw funds from that contract after some period of time (for example 1 month) if they feel they don’t want to be a part of this project anymore.
As a result, there is no actual “ICO” event — but there is something which we call an “Iterative Investment”. Investors are buying only when the project progresses forward. Chances that the funds are misused are minimized. On the early stages, project owners overpay developers paying them more in “project tokens” than they would normally pay in dollars. Developers sell that to investors with discounts to account for the risk taken. On further stages, when it is clear that the project is moving in the right direction — these premiums/discounts become smaller and smaller.
In case if project nature requires some real funds for some asset (not lambos) — then a smartcontract may be adjusted to release a fixed amount of tokens for sale proportionally to the funds spent to pay development team.
The biggest problem in this concept is the need to be able to review transactions to really confirm that the token payments done are matching the real job done. At https://dogezer.com we solve that by providing our own set of tools and a special role of a “Watcher” in a team to be able to track the progress. Other solutions may require manual logging of a task completed into each token transaction or publicly accessible report being periodically published by the project owner.
Would appreciate comments and critique!
To find out more about Dogezer:
Website: https://dogezer.com
Alpha Version: https://dogezer.io
Telegram: https://t.me/dogezer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dogezerCom
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dgzcom
Medium: https://medium.com/@dogezercom
Bitcointalk.org: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-dogezer-next-gen-collaborative-platform-for-software-development-2100916
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 11, 2018, 09:39:33 AM
I am pleasantly surprised by your work. In all ratings, Dogezer is ranked high. I will follow your work and participate in an open sale!
Good afternoon! Thank you so much! Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 11, 2018, 06:53:21 AM
I am pleasantly surprised by your work. In all ratings, Dogezer is ranked high. I will follow your work and participate in an open sale!
February 11, 2018, 03:37:02 AM
Hello dear friends!!!
Are you ready for this grand event? You have a unique opportunity to buy Dogezer tokens in 4 days on the open sale!
Do not miss your chance!
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
Are you ready for this grand event? You have a unique opportunity to buy Dogezer tokens in 4 days on the open sale!
Do not miss your chance!
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
February 10, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
Hello! Good news, I'm waiting for an open sale!
February 10, 2018, 07:49:26 AM
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Dogezer Private Sale Round Has Started!
We are happy to inform you, that Our Private Sale Round has started!
To remind you the rules for the Private Sale:
You should be Whitelisted to be able to purchase tokens on this round. Our system will validate, if you are Whitelisted or not when you enter your wallet on site after pressing the “Purchase” button. In case you are Whitelisted already, you would be offered to agree with terms and conditions and would be then directed to the page, which would display address of the smart contract.
You would need to send your funds to that smartcontract address, and it will automatically distribute tokens back to you.
Please only send funds from a wallet you have Whitelisted. Contact us ASAP over telegram if you have forgotten it, we will mail it to you in a minute.
Minimal purchase is 25 ETH. Our smartcontract will reject the transactions for a smaller amount.
The price is 2000 DGZ tokens per 1 ETH, 0.0005 ETH for one DGZ token.
Total tokens for Sale is 5,000,000. Due to increased exchange rate of ETH that amount is enough to provide minimal purchase size only to 100 participants.
You have to send ETH from your personal Ethereum wallets that support ERC20,
like MyEtherWallet, Metamask, Parity, Mist.
We do not recommend using Jaxx until they add full ERC20 support.
Set Gas Limit to 120000, gas price at 60 GWEI
Please note:
THE ONLY TRUE SOURCE OF DOGEZER SMART CONTRACT ADDRESS IS AT https://dogezer.com/
Don’t send funds to any other contracts you learned about in private messages or any other methods, even if they look like coming from a team members.
In case if you have any questions or doubts, please contact us through our telegram chat, we would be happy to provide additional clarifications!
Thank you for staying with us and Happy Purchases!
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
Dogezer Private Sale Round Has Started!
We are happy to inform you, that Our Private Sale Round has started!
To remind you the rules for the Private Sale:
You should be Whitelisted to be able to purchase tokens on this round. Our system will validate, if you are Whitelisted or not when you enter your wallet on site after pressing the “Purchase” button. In case you are Whitelisted already, you would be offered to agree with terms and conditions and would be then directed to the page, which would display address of the smart contract.
You would need to send your funds to that smartcontract address, and it will automatically distribute tokens back to you.
Please only send funds from a wallet you have Whitelisted. Contact us ASAP over telegram if you have forgotten it, we will mail it to you in a minute.
Minimal purchase is 25 ETH. Our smartcontract will reject the transactions for a smaller amount.
The price is 2000 DGZ tokens per 1 ETH, 0.0005 ETH for one DGZ token.
Total tokens for Sale is 5,000,000. Due to increased exchange rate of ETH that amount is enough to provide minimal purchase size only to 100 participants.
You have to send ETH from your personal Ethereum wallets that support ERC20,
like MyEtherWallet, Metamask, Parity, Mist.
We do not recommend using Jaxx until they add full ERC20 support.
Set Gas Limit to 120000, gas price at 60 GWEI
Please note:
THE ONLY TRUE SOURCE OF DOGEZER SMART CONTRACT ADDRESS IS AT https://dogezer.com/
Don’t send funds to any other contracts you learned about in private messages or any other methods, even if they look like coming from a team members.
In case if you have any questions or doubts, please contact us through our telegram chat, we would be happy to provide additional clarifications!
Thank you for staying with us and Happy Purchases!
Best Regards,
Eugene, Dogezer Community Manager.
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