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January 14, 2018, 07:08:01 AM
Where can I watch the video about your technology?
You can watch this link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o70zq2K200A
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January 14, 2018, 07:07:28 AM

Machine logic for health might be a very dangerous thing.. Humans have a thing called nuance .. I don't expect devices to develop this soon.

But humans are also prone for errors, e.g. just overlooking an important result from a blood test. I also think doctors won't be completely redundant for diagnosises, but I am convinced that in future, they will only be needed to confirm a diagnosis.
Think of it like humans & machine working together, like it's always been but now it's getting more advanced ! Smiley)

The interaction between humans and machines (AI) has been up for debate for a few years now.
Read the waitbutwhy blog series, he talks about these kinds of things all the time. One of my favorite blogs !
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January 14, 2018, 07:04:20 AM

Machine logic for health might be a very dangerous thing.. Humans have a thing called nuance .. I don't expect devices to develop this soon.

But humans are also prone for errors, e.g. just overlooking an important result from a blood test. I also think doctors won't be completely redundant for diagnosises, but I am convinced that in future, they will only be needed to confirm a diagnosis.
Think of it like humans & machine working together, like it's always been but now it's getting more advanced ! Smiley)
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January 14, 2018, 06:57:50 AM

Machine logic for health might be a very dangerous thing.. Humans have a thing called nuance .. I don't expect devices to develop this soon.

But humans are also prone for errors, e.g. just overlooking an important result from a blood test. I also think doctors won't be completely redundant for diagnosises, but I am convinced that in future, they will only be needed to confirm a diagnosis.
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January 14, 2018, 06:54:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjdpR-TY6QU great video and channel about curing aging.

It shows you how far the tech of this already is.
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January 14, 2018, 06:54:44 AM
It happens quite often, that a doctor made a wrong diagnosis, because he didn't see the very rare tropical disease f.e..
Computer can make suggestions, so that the doctor don't overlook such rare diseases.
But also because of the very strong psychologic component of the most diseases (psychosomatic) a doctor, which will listen to you, will always have the basic place as a human in this business.
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January 14, 2018, 06:52:40 AM
Soon, medicine will reach a whole new level that will increase life expectancy to 150 years. Wink

Mankind's search for immortality never ends. Wouldn't you say it's the quality of life that matters though?
Unquestionably the quality of life is more important than its duration. Identification of diseases in the early stages of the main task.

I think this is one of the main objectives. Self diagnosis. Just imagine being able to perform basic diagnosis in a few minutes instead of having to go to the doctor. Doesn;t just save your costs, but also the governments Smiley

Self diagnosis almost sounds like the things my doctor would scold me for. How the medical community receive this will be interesting to watch. Having said that, early detection will always improve quality of life, reduce medical cost and increase life expectancy. A lot to look forward to.

As they write in the website, is a two edged blade, it need to be done right. At the moment if you start google some siptoms you find literally everything, simply does not work.

There is the need for a specialized platform to do self diagnosis.

A friend of mind express the idea that someone may use blockchain processing power to solve urgent problems of humanity. If this will be directed to a self-diagnosis platform, we won't be probably using doctors as we do nowadays.

I think doctor's are always going to be necessary and self-diagnosis can work for little diseases.

Well, I just recently heard a lecture by a someone who is a doctor himself, who is the opinion that the algorithm based diagnostic will be way ahead of the one by a real doctor in the near future. He said at this moment the only thing that makes a human better is his experience.

I think experience can't be replaced by a machine or else. I know that in the future more robot doctors will be available, but human doctors should always be around.. Human interaction is a different thing, yes a robot surgeon will be more precise but interaction is different.

back to the project,

they need to convince doctor more. more doctors = more results.
In my opinion, machine will work logically, and that means it work for certain things.
I think it will be very dangerous for something related to lifes which are not certain.
It can help doctors, but shouldnt work alone.

Machine logic for health might be a very dangerous thing.. Humans have a thing called nuance .. I don't expect devices to develop this soon.
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January 14, 2018, 06:49:32 AM
You can explore the project without the community manager, if there is whitepaper. The developers promised to submit the document in mid-January. I believe that next week we will see a whitepaper, and there will be answers to many questions.

Wish the whitepaper will available as planned so we can read it to make everything clear.

As we can see in other threads even with a whitepaper people still have a lot of questions. Of course, often other community members can answer them but it's still good to have someone of the team to clarify unanswered issues.
I think a whitpaper is essential for every project because is the document that explains what is all about. I hope we can have it next week.

Yes, the Whitepaper is essential but they already confirmed that we will get it soon, so we just have to be patient for a little bit longer.

I am looking really forward to it! So many questions here.

Maybe it would also help if someone from the team could answer open questions here in the forum while we are waiting for the release of the Whitepaper.

i agree. would be nice to know face to face team members. Q&A session on youtube would be nice
a q & a session here on the forum or on youtube in addition to the release of the whitepaper i think it would help many of us to better understand the project and its real goals...

Yes, would support this. Beside the whitepaper it would be probably best to make a Q&A and FAQ, because even if I haven't seen the whitepaper so far, I assume it will get probably long and maybe hard to understand.
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January 14, 2018, 06:24:52 AM
Soon, medicine will reach a whole new level that will increase life expectancy to 150 years. Wink

Mankind's search for immortality never ends. Wouldn't you say it's the quality of life that matters though?
Unquestionably the quality of life is more important than its duration. Identification of diseases in the early stages of the main task.

I think this is one of the main objectives. Self diagnosis. Just imagine being able to perform basic diagnosis in a few minutes instead of having to go to the doctor. Doesn;t just save your costs, but also the governments Smiley

Self diagnosis almost sounds like the things my doctor would scold me for. How the medical community receive this will be interesting to watch. Having said that, early detection will always improve quality of life, reduce medical cost and increase life expectancy. A lot to look forward to.

As they write in the website, is a two edged blade, it need to be done right. At the moment if you start google some siptoms you find literally everything, simply does not work.

There is the need for a specialized platform to do self diagnosis.

A friend of mind express the idea that someone may use blockchain processing power to solve urgent problems of humanity. If this will be directed to a self-diagnosis platform, we won't be probably using doctors as we do nowadays.

I think doctor's are always going to be necessary and self-diagnosis can work for little diseases.

Well, I just recently heard a lecture by a someone who is a doctor himself, who is the opinion that the algorithm based diagnostic will be way ahead of the one by a real doctor in the near future. He said at this moment the only thing that makes a human better is his experience.

Also besides experience, the other human factor that is also important is human instinct which you wont get even with the most sophisticated algorithms.
But who knows what we will get in the next ten years of development.   

I think human diagnostic system is composed of comprehensive set of effective tools and processes and not just a blockchain based AI platform. Smiley
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January 14, 2018, 06:47:13 AM
Where can I watch the video about your technology?
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January 14, 2018, 06:45:52 AM
Accoding to this article, the most frequent diseases globally are upper respiratory infections and diarrhoeal diseases. The most frequent chonic diseases are permanent caries, tension-type headache, iron-deficiency anaemia  Shocked , age-related and other hearing loss, migraine, genital herpes, visual refraction and accommodation disorders, and ascariasis  Roll Eyes . Watch out, we still need to care about pathogens and parasites!  Grin https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5055577/
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January 14, 2018, 06:43:20 AM
What are your benefits in comparison with RoboMed?
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January 14, 2018, 06:41:10 AM
still waiting for the whitepaper to be released this month ><"

hope the whitepaper will clarify some things.
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January 14, 2018, 06:28:59 AM
I think some people are looking at this the wrong way..
this technology will help out in detecting the first signals of an illness, but indeed.. human doctors will be the ones using that info to make a faster diagnose..
don't forget, we already build diagnoses on the result from machines like CAT scan, blood analyses, ...
So.. this is just "another" next gen tool to help out the real doctors...
Less people going to use "dr google" for finding out what' wrong Wink
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January 14, 2018, 06:28:30 AM
Soon, medicine will reach a whole new level that will increase life expectancy to 150 years. Wink

Mankind's search for immortality never ends. Wouldn't you say it's the quality of life that matters though?
Unquestionably the quality of life is more important than its duration. Identification of diseases in the early stages of the main task.

I think this is one of the main objectives. Self diagnosis. Just imagine being able to perform basic diagnosis in a few minutes instead of having to go to the doctor. Doesn;t just save your costs, but also the governments Smiley

Self diagnosis almost sounds like the things my doctor would scold me for. How the medical community receive this will be interesting to watch. Having said that, early detection will always improve quality of life, reduce medical cost and increase life expectancy. A lot to look forward to.

As they write in the website, is a two edged blade, it need to be done right. At the moment if you start google some siptoms you find literally everything, simply does not work.

There is the need for a specialized platform to do self diagnosis.

A friend of mind express the idea that someone may use blockchain processing power to solve urgent problems of humanity. If this will be directed to a self-diagnosis platform, we won't be probably using doctors as we do nowadays.

I think doctor's are always going to be necessary and self-diagnosis can work for little diseases.

Well, I just recently heard a lecture by a someone who is a doctor himself, who is the opinion that the algorithm based diagnostic will be way ahead of the one by a real doctor in the near future. He said at this moment the only thing that makes a human better is his experience.

Also besides experience, the other human factor that is also important is human instinct which you wont get even with the most sophisticated algorithms.
But who knows what we will get in the next ten years of development.   

Who knows what the future will bring. 100 years ago no one would have believed you if you told them money would be digital instead of paper
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January 14, 2018, 06:27:56 AM
this healthy related stuff, will get something big in future for sure.

Health is never ending thing to exploit. Nice that ehealth pick it as their main platform. It can give a better result in the future as I guess.

You are more than right.

Health is an endless market which can bring lots of money all the time. Even everything solved (which is impossible) labs can create some more issues for health market making more money.

Well, I'd like companies not just exploit the market to pump money out of it, but also create something beneficial for the end consumer in return.

It is ideal of course.

But it is the health sector, they are making cures for an illness they created most of the time.

At least ehealth first won't be active in that kind of areas.
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January 14, 2018, 06:18:00 AM
Soon, medicine will reach a whole new level that will increase life expectancy to 150 years. Wink

Mankind's search for immortality never ends. Wouldn't you say it's the quality of life that matters though?
Unquestionably the quality of life is more important than its duration. Identification of diseases in the early stages of the main task.

I think this is one of the main objectives. Self diagnosis. Just imagine being able to perform basic diagnosis in a few minutes instead of having to go to the doctor. Doesn;t just save your costs, but also the governments Smiley

Self diagnosis almost sounds like the things my doctor would scold me for. How the medical community receive this will be interesting to watch. Having said that, early detection will always improve quality of life, reduce medical cost and increase life expectancy. A lot to look forward to.

As they write in the website, is a two edged blade, it need to be done right. At the moment if you start google some siptoms you find literally everything, simply does not work.

There is the need for a specialized platform to do self diagnosis.

A friend of mind express the idea that someone may use blockchain processing power to solve urgent problems of humanity. If this will be directed to a self-diagnosis platform, we won't be probably using doctors as we do nowadays.

I think doctor's are always going to be necessary and self-diagnosis can work for little diseases.

Well, I just recently heard a lecture by a someone who is a doctor himself, who is the opinion that the algorithm based diagnostic will be way ahead of the one by a real doctor in the near future. He said at this moment the only thing that makes a human better is his experience.

I think experience can't be replaced by a machine or else. I know that in the future more robot doctors will be available, but human doctors should always be around.. Human interaction is a different thing, yes a robot surgeon will be more precise but interaction is different.

back to the project,

they need to convince doctor more. more doctors = more results.
In my opinion, machine will work logically, and that means it work for certain things.
I think it will be very dangerous for something related to lifes which are not certain.
It can help doctors, but shouldnt work alone.
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January 14, 2018, 06:12:49 AM
Soon, medicine will reach a whole new level that will increase life expectancy to 150 years. Wink

Mankind's search for immortality never ends. Wouldn't you say it's the quality of life that matters though?
Unquestionably the quality of life is more important than its duration. Identification of diseases in the early stages of the main task.

I think this is one of the main objectives. Self diagnosis. Just imagine being able to perform basic diagnosis in a few minutes instead of having to go to the doctor. Doesn;t just save your costs, but also the governments Smiley

Self diagnosis almost sounds like the things my doctor would scold me for. How the medical community receive this will be interesting to watch. Having said that, early detection will always improve quality of life, reduce medical cost and increase life expectancy. A lot to look forward to.

As they write in the website, is a two edged blade, it need to be done right. At the moment if you start google some siptoms you find literally everything, simply does not work.

There is the need for a specialized platform to do self diagnosis.

A friend of mind express the idea that someone may use blockchain processing power to solve urgent problems of humanity. If this will be directed to a self-diagnosis platform, we won't be probably using doctors as we do nowadays.

I think doctor's are always going to be necessary and self-diagnosis can work for little diseases.

Well, I just recently heard a lecture by a someone who is a doctor himself, who is the opinion that the algorithm based diagnostic will be way ahead of the one by a real doctor in the near future. He said at this moment the only thing that makes a human better is his experience.

Also besides experience, the other human factor that is also important is human instinct which you wont get even with the most sophisticated algorithms.
But who knows what we will get in the next ten years of development.   
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January 14, 2018, 05:58:52 AM
Soon, medicine will reach a whole new level that will increase life expectancy to 150 years. Wink

Mankind's search for immortality never ends. Wouldn't you say it's the quality of life that matters though?
Unquestionably the quality of life is more important than its duration. Identification of diseases in the early stages of the main task.

I think this is one of the main objectives. Self diagnosis. Just imagine being able to perform basic diagnosis in a few minutes instead of having to go to the doctor. Doesn;t just save your costs, but also the governments Smiley

Self diagnosis almost sounds like the things my doctor would scold me for. How the medical community receive this will be interesting to watch. Having said that, early detection will always improve quality of life, reduce medical cost and increase life expectancy. A lot to look forward to.

As they write in the website, is a two edged blade, it need to be done right. At the moment if you start google some siptoms you find literally everything, simply does not work.

There is the need for a specialized platform to do self diagnosis.

A friend of mind express the idea that someone may use blockchain processing power to solve urgent problems of humanity. If this will be directed to a self-diagnosis platform, we won't be probably using doctors as we do nowadays.

I think doctor's are always going to be necessary and self-diagnosis can work for little diseases.

Well, I just recently heard a lecture by a someone who is a doctor himself, who is the opinion that the algorithm based diagnostic will be way ahead of the one by a real doctor in the near future. He said at this moment the only thing that makes a human better is his experience.

I think experience can't be replaced by a machine or else. I know that in the future more robot doctors will be available, but human doctors should always be around.. Human interaction is a different thing, yes a robot surgeon will be more precise but interaction is different.

back to the project,

they need to convince doctor more. more doctors = more results.
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January 14, 2018, 05:46:47 AM
Soon, medicine will reach a whole new level that will increase life expectancy to 150 years. Wink

Mankind's search for immortality never ends. Wouldn't you say it's the quality of life that matters though?
Unquestionably the quality of life is more important than its duration. Identification of diseases in the early stages of the main task.

I think this is one of the main objectives. Self diagnosis. Just imagine being able to perform basic diagnosis in a few minutes instead of having to go to the doctor. Doesn;t just save your costs, but also the governments Smiley

Self diagnosis almost sounds like the things my doctor would scold me for. How the medical community receive this will be interesting to watch. Having said that, early detection will always improve quality of life, reduce medical cost and increase life expectancy. A lot to look forward to.

As they write in the website, is a two edged blade, it need to be done right. At the moment if you start google some siptoms you find literally everything, simply does not work.

There is the need for a specialized platform to do self diagnosis.

A friend of mind express the idea that someone may use blockchain processing power to solve urgent problems of humanity. If this will be directed to a self-diagnosis platform, we won't be probably using doctors as we do nowadays.

I think doctor's are always going to be necessary and self-diagnosis can work for little diseases.

Well, I just recently heard a lecture by a someone who is a doctor himself, who is the opinion that the algorithm based diagnostic will be way ahead of the one by a real doctor in the near future. He said at this moment the only thing that makes a human better is his experience.
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