Only to be clear: People who bought tokens with Ethereum should have unlocked tokens without any need for a pin, right?
Bitcoin partecipants should need the pin, and credit card partecipant should wait 180 days cause the chargeback risk.. is all right?
Another question, when the dividends will be paid? Annually or quarterly?
Topic: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure - page 119. (Read 125687 times)
February 08, 2018, 03:49:47 AM
February 08, 2018, 03:42:50 AM
This is the funniest project ever.
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
Why funny project? The fact that it doesn't allow German investors is not Envion fault - it's because the German laws. I like the fact that it's a security token instead of utility token, even if there are some disadvantages like not allowing German investors.
Why the container was a bad joke? The've got something to show at least, most of the ICO's don't have anything before the crowdsale.
The profit is not fixed, it should be increasing with reinvestments - even better.
And the Exchanges - HitBTC is just a start i believe, you also have EtherDelta, more to come..
I think it's a great project
It's just my opinion. From a technological point of view the container is worthless (bad hash rate) and I don't think it will survive many transports, so they will have huge maintenance. But you are right, it's just the first one, maybe they get better.
Another point is the German electricty cartel, which isn't confined to price rigging (as usual), they do really weird things, e.g. water plants that produce electricty during daytime and then pump the water back during the night when electricity is cheap. Most of them are just not willing to sell their electricty cheaper, even if they lose more many when shutting down the plant. Same in France, Austria and many others.
And how can they guarantee a profit? What if market drops, like it did in the last weeks? What do you think where the money comes from?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see such a project succeed, because electricity is always a refutation when you talk about crypto currencies. I just don't believe in this
And even if they don't succeed, you can make money with it, so keep calm
I don't get your points - but you clearly did not go to the Envion Investor Meeting in late November. It just looks like you try to spread a bit FUD to grab some Envion Tokens cheaper. The moment I put my hand into the mining unit - that was filled up from top to bottom with hardware - I was blown away because of the (low) temperature inside.
The thing that you thinking that the MMU's just gonna stand around in Germany with our expensive power proves that you don't have knowledge - there is a market for renewable energy that is starving for a consumer to push the aggressive construction for new renewable energy power plants.
Why should I spread FUD? And sorry, but this is a kids argument, cause only kids think a board comment will influence price
I work for an energy supplier in Germany and I guess I have a good understanding of the market. I know that there are similar conditions in many other european countries. So you want to say that they transport the container to Asia or Africa? And you think this is efficient?
I would love to hear a reasonable answer, not only accusing others.
I think good questions are being asked and I wonder where the best place would be too look for an answer. Is the envion-team active on bitcointalk or do they focus more on the envion-telegram-chat in order to answer questions like this?
Sometimes a single post on bitcointalk can go viral though, depending on who picks it up and spreads it on for example twitter or in a relevant telegram-group.
February 08, 2018, 03:10:55 AM
This is the funniest project ever.
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
Why funny project? The fact that it doesn't allow German investors is not Envion fault - it's because the German laws. I like the fact that it's a security token instead of utility token, even if there are some disadvantages like not allowing German investors.
Why the container was a bad joke? The've got something to show at least, most of the ICO's don't have anything before the crowdsale.
The profit is not fixed, it should be increasing with reinvestments - even better.
And the Exchanges - HitBTC is just a start i believe, you also have EtherDelta, more to come..
I think it's a great project
It's just my opinion. From a technological point of view the container is worthless (bad hash rate) and I don't think it will survive many transports, so they will have huge maintenance. But you are right, it's just the first one, maybe they get better.
Another point is the German electricty cartel, which isn't confined to price rigging (as usual), they do really weird things, e.g. water plants that produce electricty during daytime and then pump the water back during the night when electricity is cheap. Most of them are just not willing to sell their electricty cheaper, even if they lose more many when shutting down the plant. Same in France, Austria and many others.
And how can they guarantee a profit? What if market drops, like it did in the last weeks? What do you think where the money comes from?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see such a project succeed, because electricity is always a refutation when you talk about crypto currencies. I just don't believe in this
And even if they don't succeed, you can make money with it, so keep calm
I don't get your points - but you clearly did not go to the Envion Investor Meeting in late November. It just looks like you try to spread a bit FUD to grab some Envion Tokens cheaper. The moment I put my hand into the mining unit - that was filled up from top to bottom with hardware - I was blown away because of the (low) temperature inside.
The thing that you thinking that the MMU's just gonna stand around in Germany with our expensive power proves that you don't have knowledge - there is a market for renewable energy that is starving for a consumer to push the aggressive construction for new renewable energy power plants.
Why should I spread FUD? And sorry, but this is a kids argument, cause only kids think a board comment will influence price
I work for an energy supplier in Germany and I guess I have a good understanding of the market. I know that there are similar conditions in many other european countries. So you want to say that they transport the container to Asia or Africa? And you think this is efficient?
I would love to hear a reasonable answer, not only accusing others.
February 07, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
Hi. How do we know when our tokens are unlocked? During ICO stage I did click unlock on the email. Have always been able to see the ENV tokens on my metamask. But how do I know when they actually unlocked to be able to trade with?
In my case can not transfer my tokens due to waiting for a "Pin code", I believe it's not just me who is waiting for this pin code.
Not only you, there are many people who waiting for pin to transfer the tokens. Today I got a email that they are listing in hitbtc exchange and it is not possible for us to send the tokens to the exchange.
February 07, 2018, 08:46:43 PM
Hi. How do we know when our tokens are unlocked? During ICO stage I did click unlock on the email. Have always been able to see the ENV tokens on my metamask. But how do I know when they actually unlocked to be able to trade with?
In my case can not transfer my tokens due to waiting for a "Pin code", I believe it's not just me who is waiting for this pin code.
February 07, 2018, 06:13:34 PM
Hi. How do we know when our tokens are unlocked? During ICO stage I did click unlock on the email. Have always been able to see the ENV tokens on my metamask. But how do I know when they actually unlocked to be able to trade with?
February 07, 2018, 06:12:40 PM
Sounds like he's being scammed. You checked that? You simply can't buy at that level because there is no stock. If someone tells me they will sell me stock at 50% discount to market price I'll hit them with a hammer, they are trying to scam me.
February 07, 2018, 06:11:29 PM
Why the btc buyers are still locked? Why we can’t transfer our tokens?
Though I got mail to unlock tokens and I have done still it shows they are in locked state
Though I got mail to unlock tokens and I have done still it shows they are in locked state
February 07, 2018, 06:08:13 PM
Still waiting for the answer to whether I should wait six months for the pin that was mentioned in my past email...there was no timeframe mentioned. Not sure where else to go on this. Asked four times
February 07, 2018, 06:06:46 PM
Isn't that the point of the whole thing? When the token gets listed on 9th Feb, we should be able to Deposit them to HitBTC in order to trade with them, right? How are we going to transfer them when we cannot even get them in our wallets? 
February 07, 2018, 06:06:11 PM
My statements are simply facts in response to questions, like Johnson I take inspiration from others. It gets you in conversations. I've already met an Ethereum foundation coder for a drink and UKs biggest sole miner just by asking questions. Don't be a wallflower.
February 07, 2018, 06:05:23 PM
Is funny I help some new guy today to transfer his tokens to his metamask and he had 105k and he was going to get an other 100k today in ED at $0.59 very nice guy and it was his first time here
February 07, 2018, 06:04:33 PM
I only buy small quantity because I don’t have much fund but I like when people that buy large quantity share the information. I see it as encouragement and it serves as motivation for me. So I love to hear from the Whales
February 07, 2018, 06:03:30 PM
ICOs are still pushing out great return results. I started with 1/5th the amount of money I now have in crypto 6 months ago - and this includes losing 50% in the recent decline. ENV is a great one to add to your list (!) Just follow good companies, with logical business models and that give real token holder benefits. That said, I bought ETN ICO, it went 1300% and they have no direct token benefits, just currency. That's an example of money following a good CEO/ Company and viral advertsing
February 07, 2018, 05:32:47 PM
This is the funniest project ever.
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
Why funny project? The fact that it doesn't allow German investors is not Envion fault - it's because the German laws. I like the fact that it's a security token instead of utility token, even if there are some disadvantages like not allowing German investors.
Why the container was a bad joke? The've got something to show at least, most of the ICO's don't have anything before the crowdsale.
The profit is not fixed, it should be increasing with reinvestments - even better.
And the Exchanges - HitBTC is just a start i believe, you also have EtherDelta, more to come..
I think it's a great project
It's just my opinion. From a technological point of view the container is worthless (bad hash rate) and I don't think it will survive many transports, so they will have huge maintenance. But you are right, it's just the first one, maybe they get better.
Another point is the German electricty cartel, which isn't confined to price rigging (as usual), they do really weird things, e.g. water plants that produce electricty during daytime and then pump the water back during the night when electricity is cheap. Most of them are just not willing to sell their electricty cheaper, even if they lose more many when shutting down the plant. Same in France, Austria and many others.
And how can they guarantee a profit? What if market drops, like it did in the last weeks? What do you think where the money comes from?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see such a project succeed, because electricity is always a refutation when you talk about crypto currencies. I just don't believe in this
And even if they don't succeed, you can make money with it, so keep calm
I don't get your points - but you clearly did not go to the Envion Investor Meeting in late November. It just looks like you try to spread a bit FUD to grab some Envion Tokens cheaper. The moment I put my hand into the mining unit - that was filled up from top to bottom with hardware - I was blown away because of the (low) temperature inside.
The thing that you thinking that the MMU's just gonna stand around in Germany with our expensive power proves that you don't have knowledge - there is a market for renewable energy that is starving for a consumer to push the aggressive construction for new renewable energy power plants.
February 07, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
This is the funniest project ever.
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
Why funny project? The fact that it doesn't allow German investors is not Envion fault - it's because the German laws. I like the fact that it's a security token instead of utility token, even if there are some disadvantages like not allowing German investors.
Why the container was a bad joke? The've got something to show at least, most of the ICO's don't have anything before the crowdsale.
The profit is not fixed, it should be increasing with reinvestments - even better.
And the Exchanges - HitBTC is just a start i believe, you also have EtherDelta, more to come..
I think it's a great project
It's just my opinion. From a technological point of view the container is worthless (bad hash rate) and I don't think it will survive many transports, so they will have huge maintenance. But you are right, it's just the first one, maybe they get better.
Another point is the German electricty cartel, which isn't confined to price rigging (as usual), they do really weird things, e.g. water plants that produce electricty during daytime and then pump the water back during the night when electricity is cheap. Most of them are just not willing to sell their electricty cheaper, even if they lose more many when shutting down the plant. Same in France, Austria and many others.
And how can they guarantee a profit? What if market drops, like it did in the last weeks? What do you think where the money comes from?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see such a project succeed, because electricity is always a refutation when you talk about crypto currencies. I just don't believe in this
And even if they don't succeed, you can make money with it, so keep calm
Well, you are right that the profit cannot be guaranteed - if cryptos go to hell, then this project follows them and most of other ICO's as well. It's a risky investment.
But I believe in cryptos even after the current drop, and this project looks better to me than most of other ICO's. So fingers crossed for they will be succesfull
February 07, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
This is the funniest project ever.
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
Why funny project? The fact that it doesn't allow German investors is not Envion fault - it's because the German laws. I like the fact that it's a security token instead of utility token, even if there are some disadvantages like not allowing German investors.
Why the container was a bad joke? The've got something to show at least, most of the ICO's don't have anything before the crowdsale.
The profit is not fixed, it should be increasing with reinvestments - even better.
And the Exchanges - HitBTC is just a start i believe, you also have EtherDelta, more to come..
I think it's a great project
It's just my opinion. From a technological point of view the container is worthless (bad hash rate) and I don't think it will survive many transports, so they will have huge maintenance. But you are right, it's just the first one, maybe they get better.
Another point is the German electricty cartel, which isn't confined to price rigging (as usual), they do really weird things, e.g. water plants that produce electricty during daytime and then pump the water back during the night when electricity is cheap. Most of them are just not willing to sell their electricty cheaper, even if they lose more many when shutting down the plant. Same in France, Austria and many others.
And how can they guarantee a profit? What if market drops, like it did in the last weeks? What do you think where the money comes from?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see such a project succeed, because electricity is always a refutation when you talk about crypto currencies. I just don't believe in this
And even if they don't succeed, you can make money with it, so keep calm
February 07, 2018, 04:57:08 PM
Unfortunately ENV tokens lost almost all value, like all other tokens, cause this huge dip in bitcoin price. Many people bought ENV tokens at 1$ thinking that was good, but now when you see the price around 0.40$ this is so sad.. well, i hope we will recover, but if i had the money, i would buy more at this price.. 50% discount +
Can you please explain where can you see these prices? HitBTC?
I was checking Etherdelta as a few other users suggested above, but there is no ENV token there.
Yes, i see ENV on Etherdelta. You just simply need to add the contract manually in the bar like this.. this should be ENV tokens: https://etherdelta.com/#0xd780ae2bf04cd96e577d3d014762f831d97129d0-ETH
Now went a little bit up, but before was also lower, around 0.30$
Well just looked at EtherDelta and the lowest sell bid is 0.00123 ETH, which is (at the current ETH price 824 USD) 0.00123*824 = 1.013 USD.
February 07, 2018, 04:50:41 PM
This is the funniest project ever.
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
Why funny project? The fact that it doesn't allow German investors is not Envion fault - it's because the German laws. I like the fact that it's a security token instead of utility token, even if there are some disadvantages like not allowing German investors.
Why the container was a bad joke? The've got something to show at least, most of the ICO's don't have anything before the crowdsale.
The profit is not fixed, it should be increasing with reinvestments - even better.
And the Exchanges - HitBTC is just a start i believe, you also have EtherDelta, more to come..
I think it's a great project
February 07, 2018, 04:14:30 PM
This is the funniest project ever.
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
A German company that doesn't allow German investors
Of course they never would have got the permission from German authorities, but not even trying....
I've visited the 1st container in Berlin, it's just a bad joke.
They promise a fixed profit, which is just another joke.
The first exchange where it's listed is HitBTC! I can't stop laughing....
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