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sr. member
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.


I am one of the ICO investors of Faceter and I have voted "May" for the exchange. I have invested not a small amount and don't want to enter with my investment into the bear market. I know it hard to wait but better than loose.


If any project has something attractive than it doesn't matter how market is reacting. If we will keep waiting for bull run than it could keep us so long and this will never enter into market. Now this sould be launched on good exchange there is nothing wrong in market.

Well soon. They have time until the end of May.

I hope that this extra time was spent on getting along with good exchanges.

Sometimes it takes even much longer than that because I heard often times it is a lot of back and forth during the negotiation process.
newbie
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.


I am one of the ICO investors of Faceter and I have voted "May" for the exchange. I have invested not a small amount and don't want to enter with my investment into the bear market. I know it hard to wait but better than loose.


If any project has something attractive than it doesn't matter how market is reacting. If we will keep waiting for bull run than it could keep us so long and this will never enter into market. Now this sould be launched on good exchange there is nothing wrong in market.

Well soon. They have time until the end of May.

I hope that this extra time was spent on getting along with good exchanges.
newbie
Activity: 196
Merit: 0
Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.


I am one of the ICO investors of Faceter and I have voted "May" for the exchange. I have invested not a small amount and don't want to enter with my investment into the bear market. I know it hard to wait but better than loose.


I voted for April but only because at the end of the vote the bulls started running and I was waiting with the vote to its end to see how the votes were spreading.
legendary
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.


I am one of the ICO investors of Faceter and I have voted "May" for the exchange. I have invested not a small amount and don't want to enter with my investment into the bear market. I know it hard to wait but better than loose.


If any project has something attractive than it doesn't matter how market is reacting. If we will keep waiting for bull run than it could keep us so long and this will never enter into market. Now this sould be launched on good exchange there is nothing wrong in market.
jr. member
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.


I am one of the ICO investors of Faceter and I have voted "May" for the exchange. I have invested not a small amount and don't want to enter with my investment into the bear market. I know it hard to wait but better than loose.
newbie
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The more I ponder and do my research, the more I’m starting to believe in my heart that Faceter (if listed on a big exchange) can easily reach 25¢... And if I’m being too optimistic, I’d even say almost a $1.v
newbie
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.


But right after this voting end the market start recovering and this is best situation to launch this token. All investors have same feelings to let know when this will happen they will be able to trade this token on big exchanges.

You are right, I would also like to go to the exchange ASAP.

I am waiting for information and I hope for good exchanges.
full member
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.


But right after this voting end the market start recovering and this is best situation to launch this token. All investors have same feelings to let know when this will happen they will be able to trade this token on big exchanges.
newbie
Activity: 196
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.

That was supposed to be but many people did not want to enter the bear market and a vote was held among investors in which most decided to enter the exchange in May.
Now we are only waiting for official information about the date.
newbie
Activity: 224
Merit: 0
Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but did the administration not promise that the end of the project will be presented on the first exchange? at the moment there is no information about this yet. If there is any information, share it, please.

Thank you.
newbie
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Can we expect any further announcements regarding the project? Feels like Robert pothier has disappeared of the planet after being so present and pro active during the ico. If your wondering why investors are so concerned with exchange listings it probably has a large correlation with the lack of information being provided after faceter received a substantial amount of investment capital through the means of ico.
member
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Very promising project. It's surely gonna be a billion dollar project on coinmarketcap in one year. Missed the ICO, but will buy it from exchange.
newbie
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 Try to stick to the best and biggest exchanges and withdraw your coins as soon as you buy them.
newbie
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Although I am sure you guys are enjoying your conversation, can you do the rest of us a favor and not quote the whole thread back in every post you make?

Thanks!

Ok, I'm sorry. I did not think.
Regards.
member
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Although I am sure you guys are enjoying your conversation, can you do the rest of us a favor and not quote the whole thread back in every post you make?

Thanks!
newbie
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Interesting technology in the project has the functions of augmented reality. I think this is the technology of the future.
Yes you are right.FACETER have many good features than anyother surveillance system.it easily detect the any face and  easily give action on that moment.so i think in future FACETER will be use all over the world.i wish good luck to all the team members.
No doubt, The platform is a great one. They can actually conquer the surveillance/security department with this platform. There are soo many places where where it can be used.

I am not into the numbers but I can imagine that the private sector is even a bigger market than the public sector.
Yes private sector is actually a bigger market then public sector as i think the same. This project can have good benefits from both the sectors so i am sure that it is going to turn profitable soon.

The question is whether the private sector will have higher hurdles to actually be allowed to install the systems. How will the Faceter database be created? Does every face have to be entered once in advance?

I do not see any obstacles to use Faceter wherever there are already CCTV cameras today.
Each person who appears in the lens is automatically added to the database, a record will be added along with the time of appearance of that person.
You do not have to manually add people to the database.
You can manually enter additional information about the person but you do not have to add the person manually.
From the first appearance, a face icon will be created and all subsequent appearances will be stored.
Choosing a person after the image of the face will be saved all the frames in which he appears.

The face will be recognized by the system and put into a database. That means the system does not know the name of that person or anything else except for the exact face. And then if that person appears elsewhere it would be possible to say that that person has been at another location at a particular time?

If the cameras are connected to a common database, then yes.
For example, restaurants, gas stations, stores, banks. If the customer enters one in any other premises of the company, the service staff will know about all other appearances of this person.

It sounds crazy Cheesy but if that is the case well they can have a perfect profile of your movements and what not.

Nowadays everyone who has a smartphone is tracked and companies have access to this information so nothing extraordinary.

It can make life easier for us in the future
Imagine that Faceter Cams are mounted on buses, subway, trains at each entrance. The system recognizes the person entering and collects the appropriate amount of money from the account for journey.
Of course, you would have to register once and provide your account number or pay a sum to the account from which you will be charged, but for people traveling every day it would be a great convenience.

I omit the aspect of security, because it is known that everyone would feel safer knowing that the system keeps tracking or suspicious people, terrorists.

There are millions of use cases where the technology could make life better, but it could also be used against us in our everyday lives. Privacy is valuable, and you'll notice that once you lost it.

The same thing they said about CCTV cameras years ago, people are afraid of the unknown and that's all.

The progress is inevitable.

Of course they are afraid of the unknown, who isn't? But I can imagine they will very soon be afraid of all the known if technology like this comes to fruition Wink

You have your opinion and ok.
In my opinion, next generations of people approach technology innovations differently.
The generation of my parents can not believe that it sends crypto "money" and I buy some tokens by internet connection. They are afraid that the money will disappear, they will never come back, etc.
There are advocates of new technologies and those who do not believe, are afraid or do not want to use.

It seems to me that most people will get used to Faceter like the internet, smart phones, drones, self driving cars - all new technology.

I am not sure how old you are, but if you are 30+, may I ask you if you have ever been drunken as fuck and puked in a public location when you were 16? Did someone take a picture of it? No, probably nobody did and do you know why? Because hardly anyone had a mobile phone with a camera. Do you think it would have been better if there were pictures about it? Do you know that the NSA can watch you while you are having sex in case you have a TV or mobile phone at your bed? I am not saying this technology is bad per se, but it gives a minority of people which are behind the cameras a lot of potential to abuse information.

You are into digital currencies. Let me ask you why? Is it because you think it is time for more privacy so that your banker can't see anymore what you spend your money on? Good point, I dislike the fact that my banker knows everything. There are many points that speak against total surveillance, but that doesn't mean we don't need it.

Yes, I'm from the 80's and I'm 30+.

I do not drink alcohol at all now, I tried it in my youth, but I probably never got drunk as you write. However, it is like you say that no one had telephones with cameras and even if I got drunk no one would record it.

But I still think that I prefer to have a camera on the phone and know that someone can take a picture, than that there were no cameras on the phones.
I supports the technological progress and it is my passion.

As for banks, I still have a bank account and I use cards. I pay bills via the internet from a bank account, etc. I treat crypto as the future, that will take place in the world order known to us.

Of course, I would prefer that no one knows what I spend and how much, but I know so far, that for the convenience of paying via an online bank I have to deprive myself of privacy in these matters.
I have crypto currency as a capital investment. In my country, you can not pay for services or goods with crypto - with few exceptions.

If I were 16 years old, then I would probably write that I want privacy, that no one should record me when I'm on the street, etc.
It seems to me that, when I am older is the more I value the protection of my family, my health, and my property.
I am not doing anything illegal to be afraid of the camera on the street or in the store. For this feeling of security for my children coming back from school is very important for me.

Of course I understand your opinion and I respect it, but you will not convince me that video surveillance is something that I should fear, that someone will use it against me.


Congratulations to a seemingly perfect life then. What if you had a psychological problem and didn't want your insurance to know (for many good reasons)? Would you pay privately? Does your psychiatrist take cash? Oh, now your banker knows you have a problem. They are data mining like fuck. Did you ever talk to someone working at a bank? They do know everything although they are "not allowed" to arbitrarily check how it's going for you. There must be other systems, better systems, working with less mass surveillance. I am all for those systems and at the same time I want security. That doesn't mean I have to be satisfied with the status quo. New systems shouldn't mean less security. We are all here to improve what we have.

There is a business working on impulse control chips that can be implemented into the brain. If someone shows signs of becoming very brutal, that person could theoretically opt to implement that chip. If you had only one choice in the following scenario, what would you pick: you meet a potentially extremely brutal person in a corner where there is a Faceter camera, or you meet a potentially extremely brutal person with that chip in his head? I know it sounds crazy, just interested in your opinion Wink


If I had to pay a psychiatrist, I would choose cash, for which reason you write. In my country you can still pay cash everywhere.
I know that people are abusing knowledge derived from databases.
I used to work in a military commission on the usefulness of men for the army. I had all the data regarding them.
I admit that they collect too much data and too much data is available to people working there.


But back to the topic, Faceter is just for the protection of sensitive data.
So far, buying a similar service in the cloud all the recordings were on third-party servers (I will not mention the biggest names, but we all know what companies offer computing power in the cloud).
Faceter divides this data into small parts, turns images into lines that connect individual elements of the face and gives randomly chosen miners.
Here no one has access to images and to the result data, i.e. face maps that allow face recognition.
In addition, everything is encrypted and only the person with the private key has access. Here, there is no question of transferring data to various companies, employees or data leakage from the cloud in the event of an attack or deliberate disclosure by the cloud owner.

"New systems shouldn't mean less security. We are all here to improve what we have." -
That's exactly what I think and that's why in my opinion Faceter gives us such data protection, which other CCTV systems could not meet.

Returning to the last part of your statement, I have not heard about such chips, but theoretically, I can answer your question anyway.
Here, Faceter probably would not be useful, because before he called for help, an aggressive attack could take place.
Who would win it is not known, because as I wrote it, I have not been drinking alcohol for several years because I go to the gym and I have ruled out it deliberately. I am quite big now, I do not know whether he would have an advantage, I suspect that he would not attack me;)

As for the chips, I have no idea who would decide on their implantation, what level of aggression would be sufficient to qualify the person for such an operation. Could such chip have been able to reduce aggression significantly?
If so, it can also be a good technology that would prevent many crimes. Who knows.
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Interesting technology in the project has the functions of augmented reality. I think this is the technology of the future.
Yes you are right.FACETER have many good features than anyother surveillance system.it easily detect the any face and  easily give action on that moment.so i think in future FACETER will be use all over the world.i wish good luck to all the team members.
No doubt, The platform is a great one. They can actually conquer the surveillance/security department with this platform. There are soo many places where where it can be used.

I am not into the numbers but I can imagine that the private sector is even a bigger market than the public sector.
Yes private sector is actually a bigger market then public sector as i think the same. This project can have good benefits from both the sectors so i am sure that it is going to turn profitable soon.

The question is whether the private sector will have higher hurdles to actually be allowed to install the systems. How will the Faceter database be created? Does every face have to be entered once in advance?

I do not see any obstacles to use Faceter wherever there are already CCTV cameras today.
Each person who appears in the lens is automatically added to the database, a record will be added along with the time of appearance of that person.
You do not have to manually add people to the database.
You can manually enter additional information about the person but you do not have to add the person manually.
From the first appearance, a face icon will be created and all subsequent appearances will be stored.
Choosing a person after the image of the face will be saved all the frames in which he appears.

The face will be recognized by the system and put into a database. That means the system does not know the name of that person or anything else except for the exact face. And then if that person appears elsewhere it would be possible to say that that person has been at another location at a particular time?

If the cameras are connected to a common database, then yes.
For example, restaurants, gas stations, stores, banks. If the customer enters one in any other premises of the company, the service staff will know about all other appearances of this person.

It sounds crazy Cheesy but if that is the case well they can have a perfect profile of your movements and what not.

Nowadays everyone who has a smartphone is tracked and companies have access to this information so nothing extraordinary.

It can make life easier for us in the future
Imagine that Faceter Cams are mounted on buses, subway, trains at each entrance. The system recognizes the person entering and collects the appropriate amount of money from the account for journey.
Of course, you would have to register once and provide your account number or pay a sum to the account from which you will be charged, but for people traveling every day it would be a great convenience.

I omit the aspect of security, because it is known that everyone would feel safer knowing that the system keeps tracking or suspicious people, terrorists.

There are millions of use cases where the technology could make life better, but it could also be used against us in our everyday lives. Privacy is valuable, and you'll notice that once you lost it.

The same thing they said about CCTV cameras years ago, people are afraid of the unknown and that's all.

The progress is inevitable.

Of course they are afraid of the unknown, who isn't? But I can imagine they will very soon be afraid of all the known if technology like this comes to fruition Wink

You have your opinion and ok.
In my opinion, next generations of people approach technology innovations differently.
The generation of my parents can not believe that it sends crypto "money" and I buy some tokens by internet connection. They are afraid that the money will disappear, they will never come back, etc.
There are advocates of new technologies and those who do not believe, are afraid or do not want to use.

It seems to me that most people will get used to Faceter like the internet, smart phones, drones, self driving cars - all new technology.

I am not sure how old you are, but if you are 30+, may I ask you if you have ever been drunken as fuck and puked in a public location when you were 16? Did someone take a picture of it? No, probably nobody did and do you know why? Because hardly anyone had a mobile phone with a camera. Do you think it would have been better if there were pictures about it? Do you know that the NSA can watch you while you are having sex in case you have a TV or mobile phone at your bed? I am not saying this technology is bad per se, but it gives a minority of people which are behind the cameras a lot of potential to abuse information.

You are into digital currencies. Let me ask you why? Is it because you think it is time for more privacy so that your banker can't see anymore what you spend your money on? Good point, I dislike the fact that my banker knows everything. There are many points that speak against total surveillance, but that doesn't mean we don't need it.

Yes, I'm from the 80's and I'm 30+.

I do not drink alcohol at all now, I tried it in my youth, but I probably never got drunk as you write. However, it is like you say that no one had telephones with cameras and even if I got drunk no one would record it.

But I still think that I prefer to have a camera on the phone and know that someone can take a picture, than that there were no cameras on the phones.
I supports the technological progress and it is my passion.

As for banks, I still have a bank account and I use cards. I pay bills via the internet from a bank account, etc. I treat crypto as the future, that will take place in the world order known to us.

Of course, I would prefer that no one knows what I spend and how much, but I know so far, that for the convenience of paying via an online bank I have to deprive myself of privacy in these matters.
I have crypto currency as a capital investment. In my country, you can not pay for services or goods with crypto - with few exceptions.

If I were 16 years old, then I would probably write that I want privacy, that no one should record me when I'm on the street, etc.
It seems to me that, when I am older is the more I value the protection of my family, my health, and my property.
I am not doing anything illegal to be afraid of the camera on the street or in the store. For this feeling of security for my children coming back from school is very important for me.

Of course I understand your opinion and I respect it, but you will not convince me that video surveillance is something that I should fear, that someone will use it against me.


Congratulations to a seemingly perfect life then. What if you had a psychological problem and didn't want your insurance to know (for many good reasons)? Would you pay privately? Does your psychiatrist take cash? Oh, now your banker knows you have a problem. They are data mining like fuck. Did you ever talk to someone working at a bank? They do know everything although they are "not allowed" to arbitrarily check how it's going for you. There must be other systems, better systems, working with less mass surveillance. I am all for those systems and at the same time I want security. That doesn't mean I have to be satisfied with the status quo. New systems shouldn't mean less security. We are all here to improve what we have.

There is a business working on impulse control chips that can be implemented into the brain. If someone shows signs of becoming very brutal, that person could theoretically opt to implement that chip. If you had only one choice in the following scenario, what would you pick: you meet a potentially extremely brutal person in a corner where there is a Faceter camera, or you meet a potentially extremely brutal person with that chip in his head? I know it sounds crazy, just interested in your opinion Wink
newbie
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I dont think you can easily monitor your staff. In every country there are different laws about monitoring the business places. This is an other aspect, but I think they want to gain the main money from private investors and consumers. I hope everybody knows that all your private life is monitorin and saved in a platform ... this would make me uncomfortable
sr. member
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The Faceter team will greatly help other companies monitor security in their buildings and offices. Very well-designed project for tracking and security. If I had a company, I would not hesitate to put their security cameras.

I agree. This kind of cameras will be useful in some companies in monitoring their workers. But I wonder if this Faceter cameras is so much more expensive compared to the ordinary cameras that are existing now. If this will happen, then probably only those rich companies can have it because they can afford to buy it.

Do you like such a development? Monitoring employees with cameras? Don't you think we might be heading a step too far with that?
Monitoring employees wont be a good idea but it will surely Mae the workplace secure and if anything happens the culprit can be caught using the high tech cameras they offer.

To me it is still a legal question whether it is even allowed at all to monitor everything if you don't have a very good reason for it.
It is really essential to actively have such surveillance setup to actively monitor everything because we cannot expect every situation or timeline will be with no issues so it is better to always have a back up setup which helps to proceed with tracking analysis during hard times.
If there is no good reason then we really first do not discover the cameras and there will be no surveillance so it is they way we safeguard and value for our self then we can consider all the safety measures.

It still might feel uncomfortable though. Do you know this feeling when you go across a public place and there is some policeman who has a gun to protect you? It feels uncomfortable.

Cameras are already there anyway and I do not think that if you go within their reach, you are afraid.
The form of storing data from recording a video signal into an interactive database is changing.

And this is one point I am afraid of: you say if you don't go within their reach, then let us hope that there will always be areas free of cameras Wink

There will definitely be space without cameras. Anyway, this is a very useful technology for me.

"There will definitely be space without cameras" - be careful what you say, we will talk again in 20 years Wink

Ok, what I wrote is applicable only in the near future.
In 20 years, there will probably be a lot of cameras and they will be everywhere. As a Faceter investor, I am happy because of this Wink.

Anyway, we do not have an influence on it and better to adjust, than to fight the system.

Fair enough! Wink There might probably be satellites in the air which can check pretty much any angle of the world. And who knows maybe Faceter also plays a significant role Wink
newbie
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The Faceter team will greatly help other companies monitor security in their buildings and offices. Very well-designed project for tracking and security. If I had a company, I would not hesitate to put their security cameras.

I agree. This kind of cameras will be useful in some companies in monitoring their workers. But I wonder if this Faceter cameras is so much more expensive compared to the ordinary cameras that are existing now. If this will happen, then probably only those rich companies can have it because they can afford to buy it.

Do you like such a development? Monitoring employees with cameras? Don't you think we might be heading a step too far with that?
Monitoring employees wont be a good idea but it will surely Mae the workplace secure and if anything happens the culprit can be caught using the high tech cameras they offer.

To me it is still a legal question whether it is even allowed at all to monitor everything if you don't have a very good reason for it.
It is really essential to actively have such surveillance setup to actively monitor everything because we cannot expect every situation or timeline will be with no issues so it is better to always have a back up setup which helps to proceed with tracking analysis during hard times.
If there is no good reason then we really first do not discover the cameras and there will be no surveillance so it is they way we safeguard and value for our self then we can consider all the safety measures.

It still might feel uncomfortable though. Do you know this feeling when you go across a public place and there is some policeman who has a gun to protect you? It feels uncomfortable.

Cameras are already there anyway and I do not think that if you go within their reach, you are afraid.
The form of storing data from recording a video signal into an interactive database is changing.

And this is one point I am afraid of: you say if you don't go within their reach, then let us hope that there will always be areas free of cameras Wink

There will definitely be space without cameras. Anyway, this is a very useful technology for me.

"There will definitely be space without cameras" - be careful what you say, we will talk again in 20 years Wink

Ok, what I wrote is applicable only in the near future.
In 20 years, there will probably be a lot of cameras and they will be everywhere. As a Faceter investor, I am happy because of this Wink.

Anyway, we do not have an influence on it and better to adjust, than to fight the system.
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