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Topic: [ANN][ICO] Fire Lotto - International blockchain LOTTERY - page 38. (Read 13533 times)

newbie
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When you're able to update the website, for example to update the software or add other games, it means you have a central point of control. It means you're NOT FULLY DECENTRALISED!

You're also keeping the source code of the website secret. This means you're NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT!

Sorry of course, and where is the site and what we add to it. We often make changes and notify investors about this. What we can not change is the code written in the smart contract and the algorithm of the RNG
jr. member
Activity: 112
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When you're able to update the website, for example to update the software or add other games, it means you have a central point of control. It means you're NOT FULLY DECENTRALISED!

You're also keeping the source code of the website secret. This means you're NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT!
I was trying to touch those two subjects many times...

For example, when I was asking really hard questions on NexusEarth ($NXS) Telegram group chat instead of being kicked out I got proposition to join the team and use there my passion and knowledge. What a difference when comparing to FireLotto!
newbie
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The prize fund of the lottery 6 out of 45 is replenished by 100 ETH

https://b.radikal.ru/b11/1803/7d/0824605469c7.jpg
newbie
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I did not understand, but why did it all start? All so loudly declare that the project is a scam. But where they got this information?

             ATTENTION !!!  SCAMMERS!!! HERE ARE UNDENIABLE PROOFS THAT FIRE LOTTO IS ORCHESTRATED BY SCAMMERS!!!

That dudes were involved in countless scams!

Scam number 1:
: Cash Poker Pro ICO- decentralized poker room that scammed many investors and is labeled as a obvious SCAM! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20517116
Same people from that scam are now involved in Fire Lotto scam. Here is the reference:   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31509943 https://cashpokerpro.io/

Scam number 2 : ICOLAB.ME (That website is now deleted by scammers, but thanks to Google we have the proofs.) In that scam, they stole some pictures from twitter and added them as a team members on the website. Also they stole the identity of famous people in crypto world and added them as advisers to their ICO website, but were busted lately.  Here are the references:
 https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314   https://twitter.com/BraytonKey  ICOLAB.ME was  mentioned it the profile of Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) but the information was deleted lately. Here are the references. https://i.imgur.com/HUTgg7v.jpg   https://i.imgur.com/RlnVRNO.png


Scam number 3: Fire Lotto Here scammers changed their official address on ICO website two times within one week. Here is the reference: https://i.imgur.com/OmldyDd.png The first address 8 Lefkou Anastasiadi, 2012 Strovolos, Nicosia, Cyprus belongs to ORISTANE MANAGEMENT LTD and was stolen by Fire Lotto scammers. Here is the reference:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Mv4wPTVKPuKn2PC1azo5KNAslDM/appointments  The second address 140 UPPER BUKIT TIMAH ROAD #04-06, BEAUTY WORLD PLAZA, SINGAPORE (588176)  is also fake and actually is the address of a mall for retail shops, that are selling the beauty products for womens!   http://www.property2day.com/beauty-world-plaza/


C'mon dude! It is getting boring! Start doing something positive with your time! I invested and we all will see what is going to be the fact soon! Your definite spamming is worse than their potential scamming.  Wink
jr. member
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When you're able to update the website, for example to update the software or add other games, it means you have a central point of control. It means you're NOT FULLY DECENTRALISED!

You're also keeping the source code of the website secret. This means you're NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT!
jr. member
Activity: 112
Merit: 5
Fire Lotto presentation had big success in Zurich.
Instead of 10 min it was 25 with questions and answers and alot of applauses at the end. Also Fire Lotto received a proposal from one good exchange...
That is not a problem to burn investor's money to appear at many conferences and to do PR/marketing.

The more beautiful target would be to create whole project that will generate income (be self sustainable) and use that funds for marketing while investor's founds could be used only to scale-up (and generate passive income/dividends for investors).

Again I repeat: burn ICO's money is pretty easy task and that is how most of current businesses do.
newbie
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Fire Lotto presentation had big success in Zurich.
Instead of 10 min it was 25 with questions and answers and alot of applauses at the end. Also Fire Lotto received a proposal from one good exchange...

https://a.radikal.ru/a00/1803/a5/0b79a2b9d740.jpg
newbie
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At the conference in Zurich everyone was asked the same question - why do you need a blockchain? And many projects can not give a clear explanation. 😂😂😂 Fire Lotto the only project at the conference, which has already a working platform firelotto.com Thank you to the team!
jr. member
Activity: 112
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It's sad to notice, but there are and there were a lot of ICO campaigns with the same conduct in Tele - once you have asked a sharp question you are kicked off right away.
Luckily there are some exceptions. Instead of investing into FireLotto I meet very very transparent and nice compnay www.frasindo.com. After reading their whitepaper and chatting a lot on public Telegram channel as well as directly with Sandy I decided to go with them. They really are next level of transparency, they know how to answer hard questions, they know how to make community strong and work with them to achieve success together. Sandy (san2ok) is a great guy, if you will contact him you will notice that. Later I become their ambassador and I am in touch with their IT team to help them.

I am very happy that my enthusiasm and focus went from FireLotto to Frasindo.
jr. member
Activity: 112
Merit: 5
PS After asking a question about the new SEC rules, under which FireLotto is supposed to be registered with FinCEM in the US, my FLOT investor friend got kicked out of the Telegram group too. It's just no way to treat investors with genuine questions.
After I asked few technical questions I was kicked out of Telegram too.
jr. member
Activity: 112
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As for 'kermitas', I have been reading all the questions that he is asking. You give him answers but you do not give him answer to question he is asking. Do you not think that perhaps you do not understand his question properly because you do not understand the English language properly? You call him a scammer because he asks questions; fair questions.
Thank you dear for mentioning my case.
jr. member
Activity: 112
Merit: 5
Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flagpole
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- kruglikov

I still didn't get evidences why I was added to this list (as well as I didn't get answers on most of my technical questions asked here).

If you are an investor, tell us your login and link to transactions, we will check and remove you from the list
No, I am not an investor - I wanted to be but lack of transparency and answers on simple questions was simply too much for me.
full member
Activity: 378
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After reading the last pages here I just had to create an account and comment as well. After a recommendation from a friend and reading positive ICO assessments, I invested in FLOT in the presale. Only later did I discover the Telegram group, unfortunately.

The admins there were very rude to their potential investors, somebody asking about the odds for the various wins in the lotteries was told to calculate it themselves. Often questions and answers went like this:

Q When will you offer xxx?
A After ico/soon

Q What will the roadmap for 2018 look like?
A What do you suggest?

Q Where can I see the current advertising?
A A lot depends on flot investors creating promotion

It just didn't feel right, they had no real answers. Several times people were told to check the white paper, even though the white paper didn't really contain that much detail. When I read the white paper more closely, I found some basic errors (incorrect roi calculation, usd 1 expected valuation really based on nothing but some different lottery token being prices at usd 1 (with far less tokens in circulation) and a few others) and alerted the admins. I assumed they'd correct this asap, since the wp is such an important document.

But nothing happened.

When I asked them again a few days later I got questions like: What errors? So I would list them again, they'd sheepishly agree that it should be corrected and told me that would happen "soon". Again nothing happened. When I piped up a little louder about this, they booted me out of the Telegram chat after writing the immortal words: "Thank you for your contribution". I contacted the admin in pm and he said they'd get me to correct the wp in exchange for flots, I thought that would be a handy job. But then the pm went silent and I never heard from them again.

My investor friend was still in the Telegram group and asked the admins about the questions I had asked. The admin's answer was that they were "collaborating" with me, which they were not.

FireLotto is all held together with lies and empty promises. "After ico" is a great one, that's when all the cash has been received and can be divided among the team, all the while pretending to still be developing and improving, then slowly decreasing apparent output and in the end you just stop responding to anything and start a new project. If law enforcement knock on your door you can always say it's still "in development".

You have to hand it to them, having a ready and working product was a great move.

For anyone looking to invest now: Buyer beware!

PS After asking a question about the new SEC rules, under which FireLotto is supposed to be registered with FinCEM in the US, my FLOT investor friend got kicked out of the Telegram group too. It's just no way to treat investors with genuine questions.
It's sad to notice, but there are and there were a lot of ICO campaigns with the same conduct in Tele - once you have asked a sharp question you are kicked off right away.
jr. member
Activity: 67
Merit: 1
After reading the last pages here I just had to create an account and comment as well. After a recommendation from a friend and reading positive ICO assessments, I invested in FLOT in the presale. Only later did I discover the Telegram group, unfortunately.

The admins there were very rude to their potential investors, somebody asking about the odds for the various wins in the lotteries was told to calculate it themselves. Often questions and answers went like this:

Q When will you offer xxx?
A After ico/soon

Q What will the roadmap for 2018 look like?
A What do you suggest?

Q Where can I see the current advertising?
A A lot depends on flot investors creating promotion

It just didn't feel right, they had no real answers. Several times people were told to check the white paper, even though the white paper didn't really contain that much detail. When I read the white paper more closely, I found some basic errors (incorrect roi calculation, usd 1 expected valuation really based on nothing but some different lottery token being prices at usd 1 (with far less tokens in circulation) and a few others) and alerted the admins. I assumed they'd correct this asap, since the wp is such an important document.

But nothing happened.

When I asked them again a few days later I got questions like: What errors? So I would list them again, they'd sheepishly agree that it should be corrected and told me that would happen "soon". Again nothing happened. When I piped up a little louder about this, they booted me out of the Telegram chat after writing the immortal words: "Thank you for your contribution". I contacted the admin in pm and he said they'd get me to correct the wp in exchange for flots, I thought that would be a handy job. But then the pm went silent and I never heard from them again.

My investor friend was still in the Telegram group and asked the admins about the questions I had asked. The admin's answer was that they were "collaborating" with me, which they were not.

FireLotto is all held together with lies and empty promises. "After ico" is a great one, that's when all the cash has been received and can be divided among the team, all the while pretending to still be developing and improving, then slowly decreasing apparent output and in the end you just stop responding to anything and start a new project. If law enforcement knock on your door you can always say it's still "in development".

You have to hand it to them, having a ready and working product was a great move.

For anyone looking to invest now: Buyer beware!

PS After asking a question about the new SEC rules, under which FireLotto is supposed to be registered with FinCEM in the US, my FLOT investor friend got kicked out of the Telegram group too. It's just no way to treat investors with genuine questions.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flagpole
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- kruglikov

I still didn't get evidences why I was added to this list (as well as I didn't get answers on most of my technical questions asked here).

If you are an investor, tell us your login and link to transactions, we will check and remove you from the list

Tom Cash. You had my name 'flaggin' on the list of scammers. I have a member account on this forum. I am an investor and I was furious that you were calling me a scammer. So I added a link showing that I invested in the project. Again, here is the link.
https://i.imgur.com/4jDslO6.png  

So, yes. after that, you took my name off the list and replaced it right away with the name "flagpole'. You claim now that 'flagpole' has an account on this forum, but there is no such account. I checked.

Can you explain this?

As for 'kermitas', I have been reading all the questions that he is asking. You give him answers but you do not give him answer to question he is asking. Do you not think that perhaps you do not understand his question properly because you do not understand the English language properly? You call him a scammer because he asks questions; fair questions.

The other problem I see here is that there is never any answer from the official Firelotto team. Why is that? Can you explain that, please?

As an investor in this project, I have no choice but to inform other investors that this is a scam. I am not trying to get money from anyone. I have just been made to feel that I have been scammed and that I will not see any return on my investment.
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 10
Scammers attack Fire Lotto ICO. Do not let scammers mislead you! https://hype.codes/scammers-invent-new-ways-attack-ico-projects.


I did not understand, but why did it all start? All so loudly declare that the project is a scam. But where they got this information?
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flagpole
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- kruglikov

I still didn't get evidences why I was added to this list (as well as I didn't get answers on most of my technical questions asked here).

If you are an investor, tell us your login and link to transactions, we will check and remove you from the list
sr. member
Activity: 868
Merit: 278
The scam accusations obviously ramp up here or at least that one guy keeps bringing them up. The lotteries are still working as intended, aren't they?

Dude I have the reasons to believe that you are a paid shill hired by Fore Lotto scammers to protect their scam project. Non of the scam accusations were answered. You can see them here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-fire-lotto-international-blockchain-lottery-2579275  here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31509943 here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31637116 and in dozens of other posts in this thread. Instead of answers, they only post the same bullshit again and again about fake extortion letter. All so called Fire Lotto team posts are full of grammatical errors.  WHY ARE YOU NOT ANSWERING THE SCAM ACCUSATIONS?

ATTENTION!! NOW FIRE LOTTO SCAMMERS HIRED THE ARMY OF PAID SHILLS TO PROTECT THEIR SCAM PROJECT. THE LIST OF THAT PROFILES WILL BE POSTED IN SCAM ACCUSATION THREAD WITH REQUEST OF PERMANENT BAN FROM FORUM DUE TO SHILLING FOR SCAMS AND SPAMMING WITH LOW QUALITY SHIT POSTS!
newbie
Activity: 308
Merit: 0
Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flagpole
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- kruglikov

I still didn't get evidences why I was added to this list (as well as I didn't get answers on most of my technical questions asked here).

Check your posts! and you will understand
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