Topic: [ANN][ICO] OPHION - A Secure, Anonymous & Decentralized Market |CROWDSALE LIVE| (Read 15817 times)

Dear all Ophion Investors and Members,

Due to legendary idiot member Hueristic (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hueristic-198573), We are having a hard time continuing developement or getting interested parties involved with development. We have now just lost one of the exchanges because of his messages. He is ruining what Ophion could be for you.

Ophion is to be developed by 2 people I know well and have worked with (Still in discussion about payment) But our communication is good. We can continue this project but I really dont know how much we can make from it now as a bit of fud like this can turn people off.

Hueristic is throwing accusation at everyone and everything and lying himself to make our project look bad. We dont know what his problem is. We have no other choice but to stop the project. We are unable to fully pay everyone back due to the fact we have used funds for Marketing (Community Manager, Sig Campaign), Servers, Developers, Translators and more. But we can pay back what we can.

If you are out of pocket, This is Hueristic's fault, not ours. we only wanted to make a good project for the community, but I guess that is not possible with such trolls. I am out of pocket myself also.

Regards,

Sebastian Bates

Also... you have your email hidden in your account, how would we have known that....

Yeah, this is not us either. but good try.

Once again, I'm not everyone.

-Sebastian

Really?


OK, I'm going out to work on bike. take your time on the response. Will return. If you had just answered earlier that you were sharing the account as I asked twice and answered my questions point by point as I asked we would not be where we are now.

We will answer questions...

In the mean time more about this virus.... how was it sent to you? Email? Send the header (the WHOLE email including what smtp server it was sent from) there are ways to do tests to see if this email is actually doctored by you then or see if its real and send the file we can look at it, there are ways to disassemble things or get signatures from them. But hey, I think you're lying there yourself.

-Sebastian

OK, That may be true as I do not speak russian. Here is a link to the questions you have not addressed. All you have to do is answer them rather than deflecting as you have been doing. It makes you look shadey.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14902256

Ohh and nice try retard that tried to send me a virus. Lol talk about simple.

You just ignored all the Russian text (because you don't know Russian) saying that it's a quote of Sebastian Bates' message.

You are not careful, you are stupid. Spend more time on checking your statements to not look like a fool.

Please response with something that is meaningful.

-Sebastian

Jesus you are simple, he is the translator, he copied word for word my statement.

And hazelnutter is utilized by me and David Ladner, I am UK, David is US, it allows us access to support around the clock.

-Sebastian (thats why we tag our names)

P.S. We are answering the questions, where can you not see an answer? READ ABOVE

Signed by David


Signed by Sebastian


Signed by you under hatshepsut93 account.



I'd be very careful here, you notice the Red coming out?

Stop the lying and answer all those questions or it's time for me to start a scam thread on you.

I am Sebastian Bates, not everyone we hire is me.

What is your problem? Please just say it outright so I can answer instead of all these absolutely stupid pointless messages.

If so be it, ask a graphologist to look over everyone on bitcointalk and prove that I only have this account?

As for your other claims, I made a keybase.io account because I thought it a public key was needed for bitcoin, which I only started using a few months back. When creating this account it asked me to create other accounts like twitter/github which I never had before. These are all new.

The project is still heading the same direction even if I need to educate myself with monero a bit, it will be the same project. I am curently looking into creating payment ID manually in monero to add tx_extra 32 byte. The project is going ahead, Developers will be invested, It seems we may have hired 2 today, people I Know also so work can start quick and we have a third possible intern starting.

I'm not going to let you ruin this project with your pointless absolutely stupid accusations, now grow up and if you don't like the project just don't be here.

-Sebastian

I am NOT Sebastian Bates (Hazelnutter) or David Ladner.

I am hatshepsut93, a freelance translator.

I can back these statements with solid proofs via pm.

So you are saying you are NOT Sebastian Bates?

I'm just a hired translator, and I said that I can prove that I'm a different person than Hazelnutter from this forum and David Ladner from skype.

Everything else is not my business.

Yes, You are Sebastian correct? I never said you were David. Are you getting accounts mixed up in your head?

Why is the site down?

https://www.ophion.io/index.php#about

If your updating it then post as such. Very unprofessional.

So you and David are sharing the Hazelnutter account correct?

Why havn't you answered the questions in my last post. you are starting to look like you are lieing.

That's right, in fact i think that providing the market's services so rapidly is from the best and powerful features of this market, which could allow it to be differnt and encourage more people to use and advertise it as well.

We are different persons and I can prove it by showing you skype logs of me and David Ladner.

First off, What claim? I don't remember any claim, is your reading comprehension faulty as your scripting skills?


Yes after researching you a little (If you are who you say you are) I can see that you have little to no experience with blockchain technology at all, which leads to the question Why should we trust that you can accomplish this task at all?


That is laudable but you still havn't proven you are who you say you are, where is Davids personal information and please provide prrof that you are indeed who you say you are.


Before launching an ICO you should have already known this, it shows your lack of knowledge in this field and tells me that you are ill prepared for this project and will not attain this goal. Unless of course your goal is nothing more than to sell tokens, get them listed, pump and dump them then your actions are making perfect sense.


What kind of ridiculous logic is this? To paraphrase you, you are saying. "Why would I talk to people and act like I'm not running a con while I am, that would be foolish". Trying is the operative word here, please show me where you have laid out cash for a competent coder and hiring a cut and paste clone coin dev does not fit that criteria.



Again where have I done this? Have you ever taken a critical thinking class? With the degree you proport you should have taking it as an elective if nothing else.


No it is not and it should not be, if it was even more scams would be running. What would I have you do? I would have you stop your ICO, update your literature with the "New" direction you have decided on. Give your investors back their funds and relaunch when you have a more viable and sound understanding of what you are trying to do. There are many experts on this forum who can point you in the right direction but you are going about this in such a haphazard way that it is doomed to be nothing but a P&D whether you intend for it to be or not.





AFA David Alto account, that was my bad. I thought it was "David Ladner". So I am assuming that both David Ladner and Sebastian Bates are using the Hazelnutter account? Why use a generic account and not one named OphionCoin?


It is obvious you do need to understand something you wish to integrate. So why are you continuing an ICO when you fully admit you don't understand what you are trying to do? And what Fluffy said is possible does not mean you are the person that can accomplish it. It is possible to land a man on the moon, can you do that? Do you expect Fluffy to work on this for you? If so please show us the conversation where he says so, it seems you are trying to garner a large amount of trust just because you spoke to him and he said it's possible. Anything is possible but I will bet my house that you accomplishing this the way in which you are currently headed will make it improbable to impossible.




For a project that's goal it to provide a marketplace it is very unprofessional for this to happen with a simple algorithm, how can the final product be trusted?


Again very sloppy.

I have looked at your twitter which you created a very short time ago and your first post to verify who you are does not work!


https://twitter.com/HazelnutterDev



SO Again I ask you to prove who you are.


I also find it disturbing that you support a Person accused of Spoofing which is a market ploy known all to well in this area as a tool for market manipulators and P&D groups.



Your Github is brand new without even one commit!!!

https://github.com/Hazelnutter
https://github.com/Hazelnutter/ophion





Now with all this being said I would like to point out that what you propose is needed and XMR community has already been ripped off by a "Dev" who promised and was paid up front. I see red flags all over your statements from telling us what type of encryption will be used when you are not even a cryptographer to telling us that you golf, play soccer and love kittens.

Is this just you Russian speaking account?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hatshepsut93-821995



WHAT I AM DOING HERE IS WHAT ANY SERIOUS INVESTOR SHOULD BE DOING. It's called Due Diligence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_diligence


Now I have split up your conversation and answered every one of your points and expect a response in the same fashion. Not some paragraph of nonsense like you responded last time. This is me being nice, If I decide you are a scammer then you will find me far less tolerable I can assure you of that.

Also take note I am not being paid for this so those of you invested should take care that these questions are answered to you satisfaction, I may not even waste the time to continue this.

Hi,

Thanks for pointing this out. Now fixed.

Instead of storing the address in a variable I was calling the function twice; so two different addresses.

Wouldn't have made a difference, payment would have still went through to your account.

Appreciate the find

-Sebastian

I'm confused... So when trying to purchase some OPH for a test run it brought me to the screen where they have the public address to send bitcoins and showed the QR code with it, and when I went to scan it was a completely different address... any reason as to why?

I`m nicely surprised with OP. First he let some people to keep 2100 coins, and after this fast help I can say that I have even more faith in this coin, and people behind it. I purchased some coins in first week, but now I think I will buy more.
Continue with good and transparent work, fast support and I think more people will feel like I do about this coin.