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Topic: 🔥[ANN][ICO] rise.eco - Receive passive income. Forever. (oh, really?) (Read 563 times)

newbie
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 Shocked

The Handelsblatt, a leading German business and finance daily publication, recently highlighted and confirmed that the

RISE ICO was indeed stopped by German BaFin

BaFin = Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht
(The Federal Financial Supervisory Authority of Germany)


 Grin

source:
https://app.handelsblatt.com/finanzen/krypto-finanzierungsrunden-deutsche-finanzaufsicht-stoppt-erstmals-virtuellen-boersengang/24011638.html
newbie
Activity: 14
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No worries Mr. Tittel, we are still monitoring

update:
new website has been launched recently: www.risewealth.com
It is all the same, just the design is more sleek.

Here is a copy, just in case: https://docdro.id/HOJ10Um
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 261
Optioment 2.0 .....if u wanna loose your money, investing in this would be probably the fastest way. Good Luck guys.
https://www.gruenderszene.de/fintech/rise-ico-envion
newbie
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I quote a conversation from official Rise Telegram group and then a fact written by an experienced german businessman:

Official Rise group:

[Mistic]
"You got an answer to the 1 million dollar question... correction... German 200.000 euro limit question?"

[Clay aka Laurent from Envion]
"Hi Mistic.  It's not a $1 million question.  Seems more like manufactured drama.  In fact, I'd hazard that you're a capable Google user that has already found the answer.

The sale is limited to German's who make a minimum investment of €200k, so that the STO is not affected by certain provisions which require a lengthy notification period that can last many months and disrupt the planning of the sale.  It has no material affect on the project, the company, the token, or otherwise."

Unofficial Rise investors group:

"It’s because if you want to do a proper public offering in Germany, BaFin regulations require you to issue a formal prospectus, which requires approval from BaFin. This is usually meant when you say you are „BaFin regulated“. The approval process takes a few months and cost a sizable sum in lawyer cost. If you skip this effort, you don’t have BaFin approval, and you are only allowed to market to the German equivalent of an „accredited investor“ in the US (SEC Regulation D exemption), which means 200k minimum invest and a few other restrictions.

Both the 200k minimum in Germany and the Reg D path in the US are meant to protect naive/inexperienced investors from making investments they don’t understand. Therefore, you have to be a skilled investor to participate. If you go for BaFin approval, they check that all relevant disclosures and risks are clearly written in your prospectus - that way, investors are protected, and you are allowed to market to the public.

What happens here (again) is that Rise marketing is trying to look like this is a regulated security offering, when it is not. They say they are BaFin compliant to appear as if BaFin has approved them. In reality, they have never applied for - or received - any BaFin approval for their token offering. BaFin has never looked at it, most likely. Rise are exempt from regulation because they only market to professional investors in Germany. When they say „we are BaFin compliant“, it only means they are not breaking German law, nothing more.

However, many (naive) investors from around the world read their well crafted marketing and believe this is a safe investment, „because BaFin regulation and Germany“. And this is likely intended.

Reputable companies don’t act like this. All of this shady, misleading and dishonest marketing gives crypto a bad name, and needs to (and will, imho) go away eventually. I hope not too many people get scammed out if their money before that happens."


And some more facts

https://serving.photos.photobox.com/66653086f8f65bea0947201d9e24b4af993b0e1c398e9191f22cf7baf0062249efdbafe0.jpg
newbie
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And they changed the whitepaper again. Silently.

1. Was the new version uploaded without any notice? YES
2. Did they removed any "Bafin compliance" for the token inside the PDF? YES
3. Did they just added: "The Rise app does not lead to direct revenues for token holders" YES
4. Did they removed the existence of "any additional document to be published" (=prospectus) YES
5. DOES IT LOOKS LIKE SCAM? YES

They change a lot. See the changes here:
https://draftable.com/compare/vrfJGqoVrDYB
newbie
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Here is some more background on the rise ICO. spoiler: the envion guys are obviously doing it...

https://fintelegram.news/envion-da-capo-let-us-do-it-again/

they are giving their best to mislead clueless investors around the world
newbie
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 Shocked If the auditor is really not from Backes and they promoting this, than this is criminal.

It seems, they are faking a lot of stuff. What comes next?  Huh
newbie
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Seems like Rise faked their smartcontract audit, it was not reviewed by Backes as stated.
newbie
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I T    I S     F A K E


nuff said

legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Fake , sounded fake from the start and it is.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Check it out! Smells fishy!!!  Huh  Roll Eyes

Clay:
In order to reduce the rate of scam as regards our Public Sale on Monday, we have Private Pre-Sale open to interested investors only with 35% as the profit.

Kindly let us know if you would be interested. Moreso, Kindly keep this information private and off our official group to avoid spam and scam from illegit users, as we contact selected members whom we feel are interested in our project.

Clay:
https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyR

Pre-Sale Registration

I really can't understand why they need to hide it on public? Just because of the scamers? Or they are the one who will going to SCAM you?

What do you think???

make a screenshot please

As you wish..

Sorry for the Screenshots, it's my first time to upload photos here. Just click the links and you will be directed to the images.

I'll one by one..
http://imgur.com/UoR6vts
https://m.imgur.com/H7mac9h
https://m.imgur.com/E4Oungo
https://m.imgur.com/BdeCGeU
https://m.imgur.com/3ybwyhv
https://m.imgur.com/9m0Ukg6
https://m.imgur.com/xZPUqXP

I was asking on the public chat why they are not announcing here it bitcointalk?, and i got no reply..  Undecided

And last but not the least, the link that he gave me

https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyR
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Check it out! Smells fishy!!!  Huh  Roll Eyes

Clay:
In order to reduce the rate of scam as regards our Public Sale on Monday, we have Private Pre-Sale open to interested investors only with 35% as the profit.

Kindly let us know if you would be interested. Moreso, Kindly keep this information private and off our official group to avoid spam and scam from illegit users, as we contact selected members whom we feel are interested in our project.

Clay:
https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyR

Pre-Sale Registration

I really can't understand why they need to hide it on public? Just because of the scamers? Or they are the one who will going to SCAM you?

What do you think???

make a screenshot please

As you wish..

Sorry for the Screenshots, it's my first time to upload photos here. Just click the links and you will be directed to the images.

I'll one by one..
http://imgur.com/UoR6vts
https://m.imgur.com/H7mac9h
https://m.imgur.com/E4Oungo
https://m.imgur.com/BdeCGeU
https://m.imgur.com/3ybwyhv
https://m.imgur.com/9m0Ukg6
https://m.imgur.com/xZPUqXP

I was asking on the public chat why they are not announcing here it bitcointalk?, and i got no reply..  Undecided
full member
Activity: 490
Merit: 103
It seems that this is a project that just wants to take our bitcoins, so little information that I assume that this scammer loser.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
Check it out! Smells fishy!!!  Huh  Roll Eyes

Clay:
In order to reduce the rate of scam as regards our Public Sale on Monday, we have Private Pre-Sale open to interested investors only with 35% as the profit.

Kindly let us know if you would be interested. Moreso, Kindly keep this information private and off our official group to avoid spam and scam from illegit users, as we contact selected members whom we feel are interested in our project.

Clay:
https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyR

Pre-Sale Registration

I really can't understand why they need to hide it on public? Just because of the scamers? Or they are the one who will going to SCAM you?

What do you think???

make a screenshot please
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
I don't doubt that I doubt where this posts comes from I don't even see a screen shot .. anyone can say this.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
Check it out! Smells fishy!!!  Huh  Roll Eyes

Clay:
In order to reduce the rate of scam as regards our Public Sale on Monday, we have Private Pre-Sale open to interested investors only with 35% as the profit.

Kindly let us know if you would be interested. Moreso, Kindly keep this information private and off our official group to avoid spam and scam from illegit users, as we contact selected members whom we feel are interested in our project.

Clay:
https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyR

Pre-Sale Registration

I really can't understand why they need to hide it on public? Just because of the scamers? Or they are the one who will going to SCAM you?

What do you think???

Looks scammy as hell ,, and since i dont know if thats really Laurent clay or just you posting this its hard to tell whois trying to scam.



Laurent is Clay. Check this https://telegra.ph/Riseeco-SCAM-ICO-Envion-20--Exposed-10-28
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Check it out! Smells fishy!!!  Huh  Roll Eyes

Clay:
In order to reduce the rate of scam as regards our Public Sale on Monday, we have Private Pre-Sale open to interested investors only with 35% as the profit.

Kindly let us know if you would be interested. Moreso, Kindly keep this information private and off our official group to avoid spam and scam from illegit users, as we contact selected members whom we feel are interested in our project.

Clay:
https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyR

Pre-Sale Registration

I really can't understand why they need to hide it on public? Just because of the scamers? Or they are the one who will going to SCAM you?

What do you think???

Looks scammy as hell ,, and since i dont know if thats really Laurent clay or just you posting this its hard to tell whois trying to scam.

newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Check it out! Smells fishy!!!  Huh  Roll Eyes

Clay:
In order to reduce the rate of scam as regards our Public Sale on Monday, we have Private Pre-Sale open to interested investors only with 35% as the profit.

Kindly let us know if you would be interested. Moreso, Kindly keep this information private and off our official group to avoid spam and scam from illegit users, as we contact selected members whom we feel are interested in our project.

Clay:
https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyR

Pre-Sale Registration

I really can't understand why they need to hide it on public? Just because of the scamers? Or they are the one who will going to SCAM you?

What do you think???
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
Until monday. Remember remember the fifth of November

Now more delays more info on FRIDAY.


Bafin is checking them to the bones now because they are shady as hell, the whole concept is built so in the end when everything goes to shit nobody will be responsible for anything. Mark my words.
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Until monday. Remember remember the fifth of November

Now more delays more info on FRIDAY.
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