Crypto media is reporting about the listing start
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERuS_7wfvzs
- https://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/10793199-handel-savedroid-svd-token-hitbtc-bancor-idex-tidex
- https://www.btc-echo.de/savedroid-ein-pr-debakel-ist-nicht-das-ende/
Topic: [ANN][ICO] savedroid - BITCOIN SAVING MADE EASY! - page 31. (Read 55435 times)
The Orderbook at IDEX looks like this right now/a few minutes ago:
Here is a direct link: https://idex.market/eth/svd
The highest Bid on the pic above = $0.0105
That is already below ICO-price which was 0.01 EUR = $0.011
Right now, if trading would already open it would need selling for about 20 ETH = $7220 to crash it to 0.0000096 = $0.003465 (- 68%)
Right now, if trading would already open it would need selling for about 27 ETH = $9747 to crash it to 0.0000003 = $0.0001083 (- 99%)
The orderbook will change of course until trading starts in about 3 hours (and 10 minutes). But it doesn't look like "high interest" on IDEX.
TIDEX:
Doesn't look better but worse:
https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/btc
https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/eth
It would only need selling for a total of 0.18690299 BTC = $1200 to crash it to zero on the BTC market.
It would only need selling for a total of 0.13530389 ETH = $49 to crash it to zero on the ETH market.
Here is a direct link: https://idex.market/eth/svd
The highest Bid on the pic above = $0.0105
That is already below ICO-price which was 0.01 EUR = $0.011
Right now, if trading would already open it would need selling for about 20 ETH = $7220 to crash it to 0.0000096 = $0.003465 (- 68%)
Right now, if trading would already open it would need selling for about 27 ETH = $9747 to crash it to 0.0000003 = $0.0001083 (- 99%)
The orderbook will change of course until trading starts in about 3 hours (and 10 minutes). But it doesn't look like "high interest" on IDEX.
TIDEX:
Doesn't look better but worse:
https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/btc
https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/eth
It would only need selling for a total of 0.18690299 BTC = $1200 to crash it to zero on the BTC market.
It would only need selling for a total of 0.13530389 ETH = $49 to crash it to zero on the ETH market.
The last hope of last beliving investors 
I bet nothing will happen today
I bet nothing will happen today
They will unlock SVD tonight. But i have doubt about HitBTC.
Yeah, only at IDEX available tonight, but buy order price is super low at IDEX LoL
Today we'll see. !! what happens with the course .people will only sell and how far down does the price go? The tokens are still locked. We have three more hours to wait. here is an idex sceenshot
The last hope of last beliving investors
I bet nothing will happen today
I bet nothing will happen today
They will unlock SVD tonight. But i have doubt about HitBTC.
Yeah, only at IDEX available tonight, but buy order price is super low at IDEX LoL
Today we'll see. !! what happens with the course .people will only sell and how far down does the price go? The tokens are still locked. We have three more hours to wait. here is an idex sceenshot
The last hope of last beliving investors
I bet nothing will happen today
I bet nothing will happen today
They will unlock SVD tonight. But i have doubt about HitBTC.
Yeah, only at IDEX available tonight, but buy order price is super low at IDEX LoL
The last hope of last beliving investors
I bet nothing will happen today
I bet nothing will happen today
They will unlock SVD tonight. But i have doubt about HitBTC.
The last hope of last beliving investors
I bet nothing will happen today
I bet nothing will happen today
Exchange date and time:
Aug. 10th - 8 PM CEST (Central Europe Summer Time)
Aug. 10th - 8 PM CEST (Central Europe Summer Time)
This devs really crazy. They was waiting half of year and now, when market is very bad decide list to this small exchanges?
It is possible that they to announce for other exchanges than these which were revealed already. One other possible scenario for the AMA session can be showing that they have delivered the promise because it looks like succeeding to list on these exchanges is big thing for them. Whatever is the purpose will be revealed but they can't take risk to hold AMA session and announce another delay.
👉AMA SPECIAL: SVD LISTING SOOOONNN🔜SVD🚀
🇬🇧 Aug. 9th 5pm CEST⏰: https://bit.ly/2nnGyPX
🇩🇪 9. August 19.00 Uhr⏰: https://bit.ly/2KDKC7R
🇬🇧 Aug. 10th 1pm CEST⏰: https://bit.ly/2vx0R1E
I think they do not want to list. There is no need to AMA. Just unlock this shitcoin.
🇬🇧 Aug. 9th 5pm CEST⏰: https://bit.ly/2nnGyPX
🇩🇪 9. August 19.00 Uhr⏰: https://bit.ly/2KDKC7R
🇬🇧 Aug. 10th 1pm CEST⏰: https://bit.ly/2vx0R1E
I think they do not want to list. There is no need to AMA. Just unlock this shitcoin.
Hey @tempus thanks for the detailed information about award fintech company in Germany. This of course is just my guess, but perhaps this comment about the award was written by someone from the SVD team, so they deliberately mislead people, that would somehow improve the background of their project, just before listing on exchanges. It seems they will never change and do not want to work honestly and openly.
No, in this case I was wrong. I saw a comment on Reddit that they have other awards and checked their site and they have (if you go on their site and scroll down a bit.). So it's not a lie from them to say that they are an award winning fintech. They've lost the award of paymentandbanking who withdrew the prize right after their PR-Stunt but it seems that they have others - if that is true, but I tend to believe it is.
It doesn't change my personal view on Savedroid because there have been so many misleading attempts. But in this case they didn't mislead.
Im pretty sure nothing will happen @ 10th of August.
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
Hitbtc usually announce 24 hours before listing, lets see tomorrow there will be official announcement or not
Im pretty sure nothing will happen @ 10th of August.
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
Hitbtc usually announce 24 hours before listing, lets see tomorrow there will be official announcement or not
For me the good thing with savedroid is that I don't expect anything, at least nothing good. So if they really will be listed on the exchanges on 10th it will will be a positive surprise
Hey @tempus thanks for the detailed information about award fintech company in Germany. This of course is just my guess, but perhaps this comment about the award was written by someone from the SVD team, so they deliberately mislead people, that would somehow improve the background of their project, just before listing on exchanges. It seems they will never change and do not want to work honestly and openly.
Im pretty sure nothing will happen @ 10th of August.
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
Hitbtc usually announce 24 hours before listing, lets see tomorrow there will be official announcement or not
These are ordinary and low leveled exchanges so I would like to believe listing on these in three days from now. If there was any single big one then I was seconding your stance that there is no announcement by exchanges. There is dead lock and situation needs to be changed so let the project move one step forward and encourage them to keep listing on more after these ones.
Im pretty sure nothing will happen @ 10th of August.
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
Did any exchange announced SVD for listing?
I see this rather a long term invest and do not plan to sell when this finally hits the exchanges. Right now the climate for ICO's is toxic and unless the SEC decides in favor of the recent filing regarding ETFs this might continue for much longer. Considering who filed this request this time I see however a realistic chance that the SEC approves it this time. Indeed there are many other opportunities, less ICOs but coins you can buy for large discounts.
It may be possible, chances are better at least as in 2017. But I'm still sceptical. Interesting read but unsure how reliable:
https://theicojournal.com/source-bitcoin-etf-nearly-certain-to-win-approval-later-this-year/
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Regarding the use case, I have not seen the app yet but from what I know so far it's sounds like a lot of people could benefit from it, however there were similar projects that combined Crypto Saving with AI like Daneel and they did not take off either, were trading far below ICO price last time I checked. But I see Savedroid superior compared to Daneel as they do not "borrow" their AI from IBM (Watson) and create something of their own.
I don't believe that AI will make much difference any time soon and I don't believe in the big AI-promises of small projects like Savedroid or Coinanalyst. What I believe in: Customers want an easy to use and safe entry into Crypto. That could be the fundamental brand of Savedroid. But that is highly about trust because as a user you will have to trust Savedroid with your money. And they have damaged the trust-topic very effectively. Second: The search for the perfect balance between easy to use and safe is not new. A lot of projects are working on that and in my opinion the future will be about applications and Desktop-Wallets that 1) give user control about their money and 2) are directly connected to decentralized exchanges to be cheap. That future is also not there yet, but it will come for sure.
Savedroid: Will not give users control about their money and it will be expensive. That's something I see as major problem, because I don't understand the concept of saving money while paying 15% for each action and not really owning the assets.
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The stunt did hurt the brand for sure, the explanation of the CEO afterwards made sense for me, but the large majority never watched that and indeed if you do some research you find mostly sites that report about the stunt at the time and never updated their reports, which is quite normal in the press as most online media is mainly interested in clicks and dramatic headlines. On the other hand people who would have never found out about this project now are aware of it. If you do a bit more research then you will also find out quickly that it was "just" a stunt or awareness campaign.
See... the explanation can make sense to people simply because there is a lot of fraud going on in this space and it's pretty much everywhere. But at the same time it's so trivial and superficial and presumptuous to do such a PR-stunt. In my opinion it goes down to two conclusions: Those who didn't follow the whole story still think Savedroid is a scam. Others find it stupid. To me there is one big conclusion: They think superficially, they focus on bold headlines while ignoring the context. But context is everything.
The paradox is: They wanted to educate others, implying they would have understood this space. But it's just a proof that they don't understand. They are egocentric newbies to Crypto. Also this legal threat because of the study underlines that. Is it wrong to rebut the claims of this study? Of course not. Is it wrong to consider legal actions? Not necessarily. Is it wrong to communicate it that way? Absolutely, because the reactions are predictable. They have put themselves in such a weak position because they themselves have caused the "scam-shitshow". And then they communicate such a threat in public.... it will be forgotten soon but to me it shows again: They make stupid decisions, have zero sense for smart communication and under the line everything is communication.
Or take the whole top5-communication and how the story changed over time or their attempt to hype the Coinanalyst-ICO. And a lot of what they communicate... they like to put others into "wrong" and themselves into "right". A simple example: It's very usual for Yassir to say that they are open for critical arguments but that they don't listen to those who are loud but to those who come up with arguments. Truth is: They are loud themselves and they ban people with critical arguments on their Telegram channels. Or: Yassir likes to talk about the moon prices of exchanges and that they don't want to play that game. Sounds reasonable. What he doesn't say is that they've liked the "Hype-ICO-Game" and still like it (Coinanalyst). And they have given their own token a moon-price.
In my opinion: Narcissistic Hypocrits.
I overlooked this answer, thanks for going into the raised points in so much depth. Very good analysis of the red flags of this project. I think there is a bit more on the upside though.
I think it's obvious Savedroid does or did not have proper advisors when making all these decisions that were hurting the brand more and more. I see this happening with many other projects too. The majority does not have the expertise or experience to actually build what's outlined in their white paper. And even if they are capable, they lack often the network within this space, making it very hard to find the right people or get listed at exchanges. This seems to have affected many projects this year too. As bad as past decisions were made I still believe they can turn the negative sentiment around by doing a sequence of very smart decisions.
The communication has already improved in my perception but that might be subjective. I share the concerns about the fees though, I hope they find a better model. This project can only be successful in the longterm if users see value.
That (expertise and experience) is very important. I personally understand it more and more the more experience I get and I don't buy into projects anymore that are lead by teams that are totally new to this space but full of false self-esteem that is nothing else than arrogance and ignorance. Another important aspect is a certain kind of humility and honesty - to be aware of the own lack of knowledge, to know that one doesn't know enough but being open to learn out of everything. Nobody is perfect but the best teams out there have a steep learning curve.
And besides of the terrible decisions Savedroid made, it is that what I believe is missing here. They don't seem to learn but move on with their attempts to make a lot of noise while ignoring what really matters. The latest example is that they write about themselves as "an award-winning AI-FinTech made in Germany" while the truth is...
1) PaymentandBanking withdrew the award
https://twitter.com/paymentbanking/status/986901107854249984
2) PaymentandBanking even issued a statement together with several other german fintechs to distance themselves from Savedroid and their action
https://paymentandbanking.com/so-geht-es-nicht-ein-statement-deutscher-fintechs-zu-vertrauen/
With other words: If Savedroid didn't win another award that I don't know, they keep on to make misleadinging PR - one point PaymentandBanking criticised in the statement.
And that's by far not the only issue since their PR-Stunt. And what's the really sad part of the story: They raised such a shitload of real money while all their silly actions are likely to fall back on their Investors. On August 10 we'll know more. The market may give them a hard feedback.
Cool concept ..great token
Read the few pages to let know how cool this concept is. Bot account don't know what is the current situation and what they have to say about any token. This comment make me laugh actually all investors are still stress to see what is going on.
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