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newbie
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There is something I find mysterious. Maybe somebody can help me to understand.

Three days ago this was posted on Reddit:

Minting for public sale tokens is done ...

... for everyone who has submitted his KYC, minting mode and wallet in time and hasn't paid via creditcard! In doubt feel free to contact us on Telegram https://t.me/savedroid
We continue now with the bounty tokens ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/savedroid_ico/comments/8gy040/minting_for_public_sale_tokens_is_done/


Their website shows...

a total supply of: 10,000,000,000 SVD
sold during the crowdsale: 6,000,000,000 SVD

https://ico.savedroid.com/token/


I believed that the ICO sold out and that there were about 35k public Investors. Etherscan shows this today:

Total Supply:   2,997,326,447 SVD
Holders:   19367 addresses


Does that mean  > 50% of the tokens were bought with Credit Card and weren't created because of that yet?





I have the same question. 18k of investors can not get their tokens till six months?
legendary
Activity: 1960
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Only the Presale sold out, but not the main sale. From 6 billions token for sale "only" 4 billions were sold, 2 will be burnt. 


Ah, okay. Thanks! In that case the rest are Credit Card buyers and those who didn't pass the KYC. And Credit Card buyers theoretically could get their money as far as I know. Those who didn't appreciate the PR-Stunt and even more if they were not well informed about the 180 lock up period could try that maybe. Not all of course but I've read that some hoped to get refund.

What I find astonishing is that the Savedroid-Guys seemed to believe it would be reasonable to measure the total value at 100 mln EUR.



I think they will have a harder time getting listed on good exchanges after their marketing campaign.

Some days ago (April 26) I asked tobson2 on the german thread:

And you got the future listing on that certain top5-exchange without having to pay for it? And they don't see a problem with your PR-Stunt so that they cancelled an agreement?

He replied: Both correct.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35614895


The question is if he is honest or not. But tomorrow is the AMA and the exchange-question will probably be the number 1 question. One day later they have invited to their barbecue... If the exchange-topic should go wrong the barbecue might turn out as really hot for them. ;-)
full member
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Only the Presale sold out, but not the main sale. From 6 billions token for sale "only" 4 billions were sold, 2 will be burnt.

I think they will have a harder time getting listed on good exchanges after their marketing campaign.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
There is something I find mysterious. Maybe somebody can help me to understand.

Three days ago this was posted on Reddit:

Minting for public sale tokens is done ...

... for everyone who has submitted his KYC, minting mode and wallet in time and hasn't paid via creditcard! In doubt feel free to contact us on Telegram https://t.me/savedroid
We continue now with the bounty tokens ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/savedroid_ico/comments/8gy040/minting_for_public_sale_tokens_is_done/


Their website shows...

a total supply of: 10,000,000,000 SVD
sold during the crowdsale: 6,000,000,000 SVD

https://ico.savedroid.com/token/


I believed that the ICO sold out and that there were about 35k public Investors. Etherscan shows this today:

Total Supply:   2,997,326,447 SVD
Holders:   19367 addresses


Does that mean  > 50% of the tokens were bought with Credit Card and weren't created because of that yet?


member
Activity: 448
Merit: 10
One thing that I don´t understand is why it seems like they would like to release the token at all exchanges at once.
Wouldn't it be better if they started at a small exchange were a price could be established with a low trading volume instead of a complete massacre if SVD hits all exchanges at once and everyone just want to dump?

Maybe I am to inexperienced. Is it standard to do it that way?

Low volume exchanges are not good choice to get started after having this kind of situation where so many people are already afraid about the future of this token. Listing on small exchange give control to the whales to manipulate the price and grab all tokens at cheap price.
Indeed the more exchanges the token is the more different people will have  access to it to is better to avoid whales.

Will there ever be listing on an exchange.? These guys are just playing with investors money. They don't have a clue on what to do.
newbie
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This savedroid always lies to community, their telegram admin said bounty allready distribute but no one receive until now
legendary
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One thing that I don´t understand is why it seems like they would like to release the token at all exchanges at once.
Wouldn't it be better if they started at a small exchange were a price could be established with a low trading volume instead of a complete massacre if SVD hits all exchanges at once and everyone just want to dump?

Maybe I am to inexperienced. Is it standard to do it that way?

Low volume exchanges are not good choice to get started after having this kind of situation where so many people are already afraid about the future of this token. Listing on small exchange give control to the whales to manipulate the price and grab all tokens at cheap price.
Indeed the more exchanges the token is the more different people will have  access to it to is better to avoid whales.

Exactly this would a big mistake if team will decide to put this on a small exchange this will crash the price and it will make more difficult to enter into the recovery mode. Big exchange mean big chance to grow and more visibility to big investors this is promising project.
member
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One thing that I don´t understand is why it seems like they would like to release the token at all exchanges at once.
Wouldn't it be better if they started at a small exchange were a price could be established with a low trading volume instead of a complete massacre if SVD hits all exchanges at once and everyone just want to dump?

Maybe I am to inexperienced. Is it standard to do it that way?

Low volume exchanges are not good choice to get started after having this kind of situation where so many people are already afraid about the future of this token. Listing on small exchange give control to the whales to manipulate the price and grab all tokens at cheap price.
Indeed the more exchanges the token is the more different people will have  access to it to is better to avoid whales.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
One thing that I don´t understand is why it seems like they would like to release the token at all exchanges at once.
Wouldn't it be better if they started at a small exchange were a price could be established with a low trading volume instead of a complete massacre if SVD hits all exchanges at once and everyone just want to dump?

Maybe I am to inexperienced. Is it standard to do it that way?

It makes sense to start on all exchanges at the same time or at least not on a small exchange first, because what usually happens to tokens that are listed on small exchanges first and only and don't get on big exchanges quickly: They drop with low volume because of a lack of liquidity. You can imagine it this way: It's normal that at least some ICO-Investors sell (impatience etc.). If there is not enough attention and liquidity to catch that even a few guys selling can push the price down significantly.

And it's not just about liquidity, but also about the psychologics. A big exchange brings some attention, has a PR-effect, and that leads into something like a "feedback-system". Investors are more optimistic and more likely not to sell or at least not below ICO-price. Potential buyers are more likely to pay attention.


Ano
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One thing that I don´t understand is why it seems like they would like to release the token at all exchanges at once.
Wouldn't it be better if they started at a small exchange were a price could be established with a low trading volume instead of a complete massacre if SVD hits all exchanges at once and everyone just want to dump?

Maybe I am to inexperienced. Is it standard to do it that way?

Low volume exchanges are not good choice to get started after having this kind of situation where so many people are already afraid about the future of this token. Listing on small exchange give control to the whales to manipulate the price and grab all tokens at cheap price.
newbie
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One thing that I don´t understand is why it seems like they would like to release the token at all exchanges at once.
Wouldn't it be better if they started at a small exchange were a price could be established with a low trading volume instead of a complete massacre if SVD hits all exchanges at once and everyone just want to dump?

Maybe I am to inexperienced. Is it standard to do it that way?
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
The most actual infos are not really infos, but interesting:

It's said on Telegram: Exchange listing after the AMA and the AMA will be this week. If asked for an exact date for the AMA the answer is:
"There is no exact date as of this moment. We will provide more information this week. Thank you for your patience."

There will also be their Barbecue on Wednesday in Frankfurt (ICO-participants are invited) which was announced right after they showed up again after their Fake-Exit-Scam.


The pressuring topics are:

1) Something went wrong with the token distribution. Some Investors obviously got significant more because of double-transactions (or even triple or whatever). For more infos they again point on the coming AMA and obviously it's a topic they would like to hide because they've burried that info on reddit while tried not to talk about it on platforms with more attention and activity.

2) It was said exchange listing would be end of April or early May. Obviously that didn't happen, for more infos... AMA


So, let's try it with some logical scenarios to think about what they eventually communicate without saying anything at all:


First: If they would plan to do the AMA today or tomorrow they would know that already and there wouldn't be any reason not to communicate it. Actually it would likely to be the opposite. Especially in the current heated up situation it would be smart to get all positive infos out as soon as possible, simply to cool down the mood and to avoid a shitshow during their real meeting on Wednesday/Barbecue. That they don't give an exact date for the AMA could mean: They don't know it yet themselves. That would be a bit odd, because an AMA is something that is 100% under their own control. So why not give an exact date already? Maybe: They are waiting for something that didn't happen yet. Could be that there are more uncertainties about the exchange situation or/and that they still didn't figure out a good way how to handle the false transactions or something else.

Again: It would be rational to come up with something positive before (and especially because of) the Barbecue.


What would be a nice twist: If they do the AMA during the Barbecue-meeting. Actually that would be a perfect scenario: A real meeting with Community-Members and a Live-Show on YouTube for those who can not attend personally for example. A team that would have good news would probably do something like that, also because it's safe to say that questions will come anyway. Maybe they think about such a possibility, but if - they're uncertain. Otherwise they would have announced it already. That's why I don't believe they'll do that.

Actually I believe that they are scared about the Barbecue and would like to call it off. They've announced that with some naivety before they knew how bad the feedback on their PR-Stunt would be and before they knew that they would do additional mistakes (erroneous SVD-transactions). And the exchange situation is also not solved yet. Probably they are concerned about the possibility that some who may show up there won't come with "party-mood" but more with a "let's roast Savedroid - Intention". That's why I'm surprised even more why they seem not to be able to come up with positive infos before.


Under the line it's not likely that the AMA will be today or tomorrow or Wednesday. My guess is: After the Barbecue - end of the week. If it should turn out to be that way it wouldn't be a good sign in my opinion, because again: It would be stupid to hold back good news if there are good news. My impression is more the opposite. They play on time because there are no good news.


At least the situation is not boring at all...

When exchange
Which exchange
When moon
When lambo ;-)



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Edit: They've just announced that the AMA will be tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/993424202458894337
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www.cd3d.app
So the distribution for investor allready complete now when will be distribution for bounty ? It will done before exchange dev ?
I think so too, maybe soon will be distributed for the gift, but I see that the final spreadsheet for bounty has not been released yet. Maybe we should be patient to wait, hopefully soon distributed bounty income.

They complete distribution for all investors, and now they are working with bounty rewards. It was said in telegram chat on 4 May. But as we see they can do it very long.
newbie
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Allready May 7 now where is the news

When bounty ?

When exchange ?
full member
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when bounty will paid dev ?
We're right now finalizing the sales tokens amount, I think this will be finished in the next days and we can mint the bounty tokens next week as well.


This is great, but could you say at what stage is the issue of agreeing the placement of your token on the stock exchange? Already have at least some information? Earlier there was information that there is an arrangement with 5 exchanges, is it really so? could you name at least one of them?
if we look at the Savedroid site, they say that SVD will be listed on IDEX, TIDEX, Bancor, HitBtc. if they have said so should the news is fixed and correct, and for a Top 5 Exchange, I also look forward to more details
That's not bad to start, in fact is more than many projects have in the begining. I hope it doesn't take long to be in a top exchange.

Yes, but they also collected many more money in the ICO than many other projects! I hope the Top 5 exchange will be a big thing, otherwise I will see lot's of people dumping very hard!
I'm sure that they will try hard to be in a Top exchange, the sooner they achive that the better.
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What are y'all still hanging around for? They already sent your 'Tokens' from beach and beer. Go sell it on the nearest Vacation exchange.
Lol.
Seriously, are they real back? Was the 'Thank you from the beach and beer' story untrue?
newbie
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nice project & good job
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when bounty will paid dev ?
We're right now finalizing the sales tokens amount, I think this will be finished in the next days and we can mint the bounty tokens next week as well.


This is great, but could you say at what stage is the issue of agreeing the placement of your token on the stock exchange? Already have at least some information? Earlier there was information that there is an arrangement with 5 exchanges, is it really so? could you name at least one of them?
if we look at the Savedroid site, they say that SVD will be listed on IDEX, TIDEX, Bancor, HitBtc. if they have said so should the news is fixed and correct, and for a Top 5 Exchange, I also look forward to more details
That's not bad to start, in fact is more than many projects have in the begining. I hope it doesn't take long to be in a top exchange.

Yes, but they also collected many more money in the ICO than many other projects! I hope the Top 5 exchange will be a big thing, otherwise I will see lot's of people dumping very hard!
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
So the distribution for investor allready complete now when will be distribution for bounty ? It will done before exchange dev ?
I think so too, maybe soon will be distributed for the gift, but I see that the final spreadsheet for bounty has not been released yet. Maybe we should be patient to wait, hopefully soon distributed bounty income.
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It`s scam? When will be Bounty distribution? Why sooo long?
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