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Topic: [ANN][ICO] Smart Investment Fund Token (SIFT) - Blockchain Trading Fund (Read 10477 times)
December 11, 2017, 08:15:24 AM
November 23, 2018, 10:59:07 PM
Is this a token of security is a new trend? If it is STO then the tokens will be secured by the property so what is the property of SIFT?
November 26, 2017, 10:00:07 AM
Hi, just posting that I'm here.
November 26, 2017, 09:51:25 AM
If you want to transfer SIFT and clear out your wallet (leaving no SIFT in it) You have to set a gaslimit at 2,500,000 if the wallet you are sending to has some SIFT and even 3,500,000 if the other wallet has no SIFT. Be sure you use a low gasprice (0.5 GWEI) else transactions can become very expensive.
Problem is sending all to Etherdelta or from Etherdelta to an empty wallet. You can not set gaslimit in Etherdelta. You have to do it via Myetherwallet and interact with the ED smartcontract.
EtherDelta does not support setting the gas price directly. The best option for this is to use MyEtherWallet.com to directly access the EtherDelta smart contract to withdraw your SIFT. You can use MyEtherWallet if you have a Trezor, private key, Ledger or recovery seed. You must use the same wallet on MyEtherWallet.com that holds SIFT on EtherDelta – for example if you authenticate at EtherDelta using a private key, enter that key in step 9 below.
Once you have your wallet to deposit SIFT in to follow these instructions. Please note your wallet will need enough ETH to cover the gas cost. At 1Gwei and 2,500,000 of gas used that will be 0.00025 ETH. Likewise if you decide you want a much quicker transaction and want to pay 10GWei for gas you would need 0.0025 ETH.
1. Go to MyEtherWallet.com
2. Navigate to the Contracts tab
3. Enter the EtherDelta contract address of 0x8d12A197cB00D4747a1fe03395095ce2A5CC6819
4. Press “Access”
5. When “Read/Write Contract” section appears select “WithdrawToken” from the dropdown labelled “Select a function”
6. In “Token Address” enter 0x8a187d5285d316bcbc9adafc08b51d70a0d8e000 (the address identifying SIFT itself)
7. In “Amount” enter the balance of SIFT you want to withdraw from Etherdelta
8. Select how to unlock your wallet (i.e. private key, Ledger, Trezor, etc.)
9. Complete any actions in the right hand side that appear to unlock your wallet (clicking Connect to TREZOR, Connect to Ledger Wallet, Connect to MetaMask, selecting a wallet file, entering your private key, entering a mnemonic phrase, etc.)
10. At the top right of the screen there are three drop downs – one o fhtme says “Gas Price: XX Gwei” (where XX is the current number). We recommend changing this to 1 to reduce the transaction cost.
11. Click “Write”
12. A popup will appear. When prompted enter “2500000” for the gas limit and leave “Amount to Send” as 0.
13. Click “Generate Transaction” and the transaction should be generated. You may have extras confirmation steps here with hardware wallets, etc, but if you’re happy with everything confirm any more popups that appear on your hardware wallet / on-screen.
14. A transaction will be generated – follow the link to EtherScan.io to observe it. Once it’s finished (may take a few minutes or even a couple of hours with 1GWei price) you will be credited SIFT in your wallet.
15. You can then use MyEtherWallet.com to send the SIFT from your ED address to your normal wallet – or just keep it in this wallet. If you want to send it all to another wallet you’ll need to send it with 3,500,000 gas limit at a recommended price of 1gwei
Once you’ve made your first SIFT withdrawal from Etherdelta you can withdraw again to the same wallet relatively easily to withdraw further SIFT to. The gas price drops to 60k withdrawing some SIFT from ED to a wallet that already holds it and therefore it becomes possible to just use the EtherDelta interface for future withrawals.
Problem is sending all to Etherdelta or from Etherdelta to an empty wallet. You can not set gaslimit in Etherdelta. You have to do it via Myetherwallet and interact with the ED smartcontract.
EtherDelta does not support setting the gas price directly. The best option for this is to use MyEtherWallet.com to directly access the EtherDelta smart contract to withdraw your SIFT. You can use MyEtherWallet if you have a Trezor, private key, Ledger or recovery seed. You must use the same wallet on MyEtherWallet.com that holds SIFT on EtherDelta – for example if you authenticate at EtherDelta using a private key, enter that key in step 9 below.
Once you have your wallet to deposit SIFT in to follow these instructions. Please note your wallet will need enough ETH to cover the gas cost. At 1Gwei and 2,500,000 of gas used that will be 0.00025 ETH. Likewise if you decide you want a much quicker transaction and want to pay 10GWei for gas you would need 0.0025 ETH.
1. Go to MyEtherWallet.com
2. Navigate to the Contracts tab
3. Enter the EtherDelta contract address of 0x8d12A197cB00D4747a1fe03395095ce2A5CC6819
4. Press “Access”
5. When “Read/Write Contract” section appears select “WithdrawToken” from the dropdown labelled “Select a function”
6. In “Token Address” enter 0x8a187d5285d316bcbc9adafc08b51d70a0d8e000 (the address identifying SIFT itself)
7. In “Amount” enter the balance of SIFT you want to withdraw from Etherdelta
8. Select how to unlock your wallet (i.e. private key, Ledger, Trezor, etc.)
9. Complete any actions in the right hand side that appear to unlock your wallet (clicking Connect to TREZOR, Connect to Ledger Wallet, Connect to MetaMask, selecting a wallet file, entering your private key, entering a mnemonic phrase, etc.)
10. At the top right of the screen there are three drop downs – one o fhtme says “Gas Price: XX Gwei” (where XX is the current number). We recommend changing this to 1 to reduce the transaction cost.
11. Click “Write”
12. A popup will appear. When prompted enter “2500000” for the gas limit and leave “Amount to Send” as 0.
13. Click “Generate Transaction” and the transaction should be generated. You may have extras confirmation steps here with hardware wallets, etc, but if you’re happy with everything confirm any more popups that appear on your hardware wallet / on-screen.
14. A transaction will be generated – follow the link to EtherScan.io to observe it. Once it’s finished (may take a few minutes or even a couple of hours with 1GWei price) you will be credited SIFT in your wallet.
15. You can then use MyEtherWallet.com to send the SIFT from your ED address to your normal wallet – or just keep it in this wallet. If you want to send it all to another wallet you’ll need to send it with 3,500,000 gas limit at a recommended price of 1gwei
Once you’ve made your first SIFT withdrawal from Etherdelta you can withdraw again to the same wallet relatively easily to withdraw further SIFT to. The gas price drops to 60k withdrawing some SIFT from ED to a wallet that already holds it and therefore it becomes possible to just use the EtherDelta interface for future withrawals.
November 26, 2017, 09:42:37 AM
Is this ICO was to collect funds for investment fund?
And how was the result? Was it enough to get dividends?
Where is the most active channel of the project to get news?
And how was the result? Was it enough to get dividends?
Where is the most active channel of the project to get news?
SIFT is not very active here on Bitcointalk. But SIFT has a very active Telegram channel and a very open info stream from the SIFT team.
https://t.me/smartift I'm happy to answer all your questions there (I am the community manager there and have the channel open almost all day, bitcointalk I have not open all the time)
ICO finished at september 15th
7229.35 ETH rasied and converted to $1,690,432.30 (to bad there was an ETH crash that weekend) resulting in a $1,436,867.45 fund after the initial 15% operational costs were deducted.
SIFT made a $21,289.53 profit in the first period which translates to a distributable profit of $10,644.77 or $0.0149323575538740801216497911 per SIFT.
The $10,644.77 was worth 35.7560218 ETH at 10:00 GMT resulting in an 0.0000501581248088701102310953 ETH pay out per SIFT.
Profit first month was a bit low due to some onset problems. November profit will be about the same and after transfering the fund to a Luxembourg construction full operations wil start somewhere in December.
November 24, 2017, 08:50:45 PM
November 21, 2017, 07:02:06 AM
Is this ICO was to collect funds for investment fund?
And how was the result? Was it enough to get dividends?
Where is the most active channel of the project to get news?
And how was the result? Was it enough to get dividends?
Where is the most active channel of the project to get news?
October 21, 2017, 11:05:17 AM
Smart Investment Fund Token is now listed on CoinCodex.com. You can monitor price in real-time and create a watchlist.
Here's how coin overview looks like on mobile:
And this is the desktop view:
Here's how coin overview looks like on mobile:
And this is the desktop view:
September 12, 2017, 09:37:37 AM
Added your project to the best russian ICO calendar http://icodaily.ru/ico-calendar-items/smart-investment-fund-token/
We wish you to achieve the maximum goal
Its cool if you have bounty for this. ETH: 0x88DB7628F124fb389d96421F48D351e06ea30716
We wish you to achieve the maximum goal
Its cool if you have bounty for this. ETH: 0x88DB7628F124fb389d96421F48D351e06ea30716
August 28, 2017, 05:54:12 PM
Seems to me SIFT is promising project, by the way is there pre-sell path, the of pre-sell and ICO particularly period?
No there is no pre-sell - the ICO is slow running and no bonuses or giveaways. Every ETH has the same value for the fund.
Good to hear that the ICO is ongoing now, How about the bounties, will you open some bounties?
We ran a small social media bounty campaign but this is now closed, no further plans.
August 27, 2017, 10:39:55 AM
This coins look like i'ts promising, the information is is surprisingly easier to learn about.
Perhaps we could learn how to control it.
Perhaps we could learn how to control it.
August 27, 2017, 10:33:46 AM
Seems to me SIFT is promising project, by the way is there pre-sell path, the of pre-sell and ICO particularly period?
August 27, 2017, 10:24:48 AM
Good to hear that the ICO is ongoing now, How about the bounties, will you open some bounties?
August 27, 2017, 10:11:18 AM
Locking americans out will hamper the initial funding potentially available.
However I remain optimistic about this project and will no doubt invest before ICO end.
However I remain optimistic about this project and will no doubt invest before ICO end.
I think that is because of SEC is not accepting American citizens to take part of dividend projects.
August 25, 2017, 08:00:37 AM
Hi,
Guy from SIFT here. I wanted to try and respond to the points you've raised.
1. Domain privacy service.
We do indeed use domain privacy. Those of you that register domains know the huge amount of spam and service offerings that are received. I've posted my LinkedIn profile publicly - it's in the Whitepaper and refered from almost every article about us. I've also included links to my personal YouTube channel, Twitter feed and my university research profile. James doesn't use social media publicly but did open his feed up to Smith & Crown to publicly verify his identity. I'd hope that provides some degree of personal identity. These links are on pretty much every post written about SIFT and on almost all listings. From a personal perspective I've promoted SIFT within my LinkedIn feed - a network of people I've worked with over a decade and built up long-term contacts from. We've got people investing that I've worked with and established long relationships with. I appreciate that you don't know that but from my own perspective I've put my personal identity and reputation behind this so I very much want to show that.
2. Years of experience. This is referenced a couple of pages into the whitepaper with URLs in the footnotes including a link to a thread in ForexFactory that started back in 2009 going through the product in its various evolutions from Pipbuilders to Smart Trader and SmartVSA.com and the other services that have been offered related to it (Trade Relayer, etc.). The ForexFactory thread is about 450 pages long and mostly covers the period of 2009 to 2012 when initial client base was built up. There are also G+ and Facebook groups that discuss it further as well as a few Smart clients that have joined our Telegram room. I appreciate you reference that ForexFactory hasn't got much activity - later on - it's mainly promotion - but it does initially and if you search for the history it's not exactly hidden online.
3. Website standards.
I appreciate the site isn't as whizzy as it could be - actually there's a new version we're working on aside from all this but with a focus on delivering the products and no major issues that have come from it our focus has been on development of core functionality rather than marketting assets. For one of the best delivering funds take a look at their website http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/ - shiny web standards that become outdated very quickly are a representation of nothing more than a small spend focussing on that area. We do plan a relaunch of a site, probably in 2018, when we release some major new changes to our volume analysis - but it's not been a priority.
I'd highly recommend joining our Telegram room - we've been posting trade analysis from our systems as we've had it come in over the last few weeks. This has included us announcing our exit criteria and price levels. We've then been posting again with corresponding signals in real time following the trades on. Even if you doubt our history (of which there is plenty) then the trade and chart analysis we've put out during the ICO has been completely accurate so far - we've detailed expressly when we would not be trading as well even in a market that seems like it would support it, rather than just riding the recent highs. There are a tonne of ICOs out there that cannot deliver this or show any proof of product. You can go and purchase ours today - you'll also get a tonne of help setting it up and using it if you do (not for Crypto but for forex) and if you want to see where we are with crypto then our Telegram can show that.
The parent company was registered for the ICO specifically to be based in the UK and to move IP there as a USA comapny base (which is where the original product started) would be highly inappropriate. This is the case with almost every ICO, it just happens in our case it's a relocation.
I do appreciate your concerns and if there's anything practical I can do beyond pointing all this out - I will. In the interim regardless of this we've got a fully functional product that we're showing off on a daily basis rather than a product we promise to build in the future or that will be ready once the ICO is complete. From our perspective this immediately puts us in a stronger position than many other ICOs.
If anybody feels this isn't the investment for you I understand, but I'd hope this can alleviate most people's concerns. If you've got further questions come and talk to use directly and engage with us on Telegram - we'd love to hear from you https://t.me/SmartIFT
Thanks,
Guy @ SIFT
Guy from SIFT here. I wanted to try and respond to the points you've raised.
1. Domain privacy service.
We do indeed use domain privacy. Those of you that register domains know the huge amount of spam and service offerings that are received. I've posted my LinkedIn profile publicly - it's in the Whitepaper and refered from almost every article about us. I've also included links to my personal YouTube channel, Twitter feed and my university research profile. James doesn't use social media publicly but did open his feed up to Smith & Crown to publicly verify his identity. I'd hope that provides some degree of personal identity. These links are on pretty much every post written about SIFT and on almost all listings. From a personal perspective I've promoted SIFT within my LinkedIn feed - a network of people I've worked with over a decade and built up long-term contacts from. We've got people investing that I've worked with and established long relationships with. I appreciate that you don't know that but from my own perspective I've put my personal identity and reputation behind this so I very much want to show that.
2. Years of experience. This is referenced a couple of pages into the whitepaper with URLs in the footnotes including a link to a thread in ForexFactory that started back in 2009 going through the product in its various evolutions from Pipbuilders to Smart Trader and SmartVSA.com and the other services that have been offered related to it (Trade Relayer, etc.). The ForexFactory thread is about 450 pages long and mostly covers the period of 2009 to 2012 when initial client base was built up. There are also G+ and Facebook groups that discuss it further as well as a few Smart clients that have joined our Telegram room. I appreciate you reference that ForexFactory hasn't got much activity - later on - it's mainly promotion - but it does initially and if you search for the history it's not exactly hidden online.
3. Website standards.
I appreciate the site isn't as whizzy as it could be - actually there's a new version we're working on aside from all this but with a focus on delivering the products and no major issues that have come from it our focus has been on development of core functionality rather than marketting assets. For one of the best delivering funds take a look at their website http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/ - shiny web standards that become outdated very quickly are a representation of nothing more than a small spend focussing on that area. We do plan a relaunch of a site, probably in 2018, when we release some major new changes to our volume analysis - but it's not been a priority.
I'd highly recommend joining our Telegram room - we've been posting trade analysis from our systems as we've had it come in over the last few weeks. This has included us announcing our exit criteria and price levels. We've then been posting again with corresponding signals in real time following the trades on. Even if you doubt our history (of which there is plenty) then the trade and chart analysis we've put out during the ICO has been completely accurate so far - we've detailed expressly when we would not be trading as well even in a market that seems like it would support it, rather than just riding the recent highs. There are a tonne of ICOs out there that cannot deliver this or show any proof of product. You can go and purchase ours today - you'll also get a tonne of help setting it up and using it if you do (not for Crypto but for forex) and if you want to see where we are with crypto then our Telegram can show that.
The parent company was registered for the ICO specifically to be based in the UK and to move IP there as a USA comapny base (which is where the original product started) would be highly inappropriate. This is the case with almost every ICO, it just happens in our case it's a relocation.
I do appreciate your concerns and if there's anything practical I can do beyond pointing all this out - I will. In the interim regardless of this we've got a fully functional product that we're showing off on a daily basis rather than a product we promise to build in the future or that will be ready once the ICO is complete. From our perspective this immediately puts us in a stronger position than many other ICOs.
If anybody feels this isn't the investment for you I understand, but I'd hope this can alleviate most people's concerns. If you've got further questions come and talk to use directly and engage with us on Telegram - we'd love to hear from you https://t.me/SmartIFT
Thanks,
Guy @ SIFT
August 24, 2017, 11:56:15 AM
I will not invest here.
They hide their names for the registered website behind a privacy service.
The claim years of (successfull) experience with 1000s of customers, yet the reference they provide is a super long thread with no real activity besides the OP (who is not comfirmable as being connected to this ICO anyway).
They also reference their product "smartvsa.com" which has no references to be found anywhere. There is no link to any team behind it to be found. The owner of the domain name is not a team member. The website is extremely basic which is not very likely for someone claiming to have years of experience in algorithms (and this programming).
And finally their "parent company" Logic Trading Systems has been registered just one month ago.
Be careful.
They hide their names for the registered website behind a privacy service.
The claim years of (successfull) experience with 1000s of customers, yet the reference they provide is a super long thread with no real activity besides the OP (who is not comfirmable as being connected to this ICO anyway).
They also reference their product "smartvsa.com" which has no references to be found anywhere. There is no link to any team behind it to be found. The owner of the domain name is not a team member. The website is extremely basic which is not very likely for someone claiming to have years of experience in algorithms (and this programming).
And finally their "parent company" Logic Trading Systems has been registered just one month ago.
Be careful.
August 17, 2017, 07:42:53 AM
Locking americans out will hamper the initial funding potentially available.
However I remain optimistic about this project and will no doubt invest before ICO end.
However I remain optimistic about this project and will no doubt invest before ICO end.
August 15, 2017, 01:54:34 PM
It is high time to show the Americans that not everything depends on their desire.
August 15, 2017, 01:48:46 PM
Unfortunately, as stated on our website, we are not open to investors from USA for reasons stated below, nor will we be looking to list on US exchanges.
August 14, 2017, 02:19:34 PM
is this open to US residents as well? someone earlier brought up the SEC i'm also curious about that.
Most recent ICOs have decided to leave out US investors from their ICO because of the recent SEC report, I think we will know soon when the team answer the question but there is huge possibility they are going to exclude US citizens
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