[ANN][ICO] Spectiv: DECENTRALIZED VIRTUAL REALITY (OLD THREAD) - page 36.

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Quote from: csmcc on July 24, 2017, 02:02:09 PM

Quote from: sud on July 24, 2017, 01:43:27 PM

Increase of Signal Tokens value will be tied to platform growth (and whole VR industry).

This is why I asked the team to respond. Not a bounty hunter.

Why?

Why are they going to increase in value? Where is the revenue going to come from?

Adverts. That's it.

That's the answer the CEO gave in the YouTube interview I watched. (and linked to a couple of pages back)

And when the site launches, how many advertisers will it have? Zero. So, in effect, it will be worthless.

So, besides ignorant speculation (such as with Numeraire), where is value going to be added to the token without any money going into the business?

As I keep saying, I'm a VR enthusiast and early adopter. I actually WANT to like this project. But as a business venture, it leaves a lot to be desired.

The token itself has little to do with VR. And could be applied to other sites/ventures. (Again, straight from the CEO interview. His words, not mine.)

I was refering to value of coin - more users = more curators want to use SIGs = more demand = more value. Revenue of the platform is whole another topic and I can agree with you that it's just plans for now. It needs time and userbase (again), so everthing comes to a point if people will be wanting to join and use the platform.

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Quote from: sud on July 24, 2017, 01:43:27 PM

Increase of Signal Tokens value will be tied to platform growth (and whole VR industry).

This is why I asked the team to respond. Not a bounty hunter.

Why?

Why are they going to increase in value? Where is the revenue going to come from?

Adverts. That's it.

That's the answer the CEO gave in the YouTube interview I watched. (and linked to a couple of pages back)

And when the site launches, how many advertisers will it have? Zero. So, in effect, it will be worthless.

So, besides ignorant speculation (such as with Numeraire), where is value going to be added to the token without any money going into the business?

As I keep saying, I'm a VR enthusiast and early adopter. I actually WANT to like this project. But as a business venture, it leaves a lot to be desired.

The token itself has little to do with VR. And could be applied to other sites/ventures. (Again, straight from the CEO interview. His words, not mine.)

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Quote from: csmcc on July 24, 2017, 01:13:19 PM

Quote from: Dvd1989 on July 24, 2017, 01:02:18 PM

Quote from: OracionSeis on July 24, 2017, 12:23:09 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

How do investors make money by investing in this ICO? Can anyone give some suggestions..
I was told there will be a filter to block certain content. Is that correct?

Are you know what is ICOs crowdsale? If you not know can read more in: https://www.smithandcrown.com/what-is-an-ico/

It as a new type IPO and you will buy a token with cheap price + bonus program if investing pre-crowdsale, then waiting listed exchange and you can earning profit with high price than the price you bought from crowdsale. This is a simple define.

I think he means what the value of a token will be, and how the value of a token can increase over time.

Yes he does.

I asked much the same thing.

Where is the revenue coming from? Where is the value coming from? How is anyone going to make a good return on this?

I'm not seeing it. If the only (hoped for) revenue then simple ROI will be years off. If ever.

Increase of Signal Tokens value will be tied to platform growth (and whole VR industry). If the platform userbase will grow the demand for SIGs will also rise along with its value.

Quote from: csmcc on July 24, 2017, 01:39:05 PM

Quote from: xsaints128 on July 24, 2017, 01:21:26 PM

Why would you read the whole thread to get some technical details. Go to the site or read the white paper in order to get some idea.

You think I didn't?

The white paper is vague and confusing. And contains some ludicrous numbers (such as people paying $100k for an ad on their site).

The website gives you nothing extra.

So in desperation, I waded through 40 pages of this thread. Which is why I know it contains so much shitposting.

Unfortunately that is what happen when there is big bounty campaign.

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Quote from: xsaints128 on July 24, 2017, 01:21:26 PM

Why would you read the whole thread to get some technical details. Go to the site or read the white paper in order to get some idea.

You think I didn't?

The white paper is vague and confusing. And contains some ludicrous numbers (such as people paying $100k for an ad on their site).

The website gives you nothing extra.

So in desperation, I waded through 40 pages of this thread. Which is why I know it contains so much shitposting.

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Quote from: csmcc on July 24, 2017, 01:15:47 PM

Quote from: OracionSeis on July 24, 2017, 12:15:29 PM

Quote from: shenjing85 on July 24, 2017, 09:52:00 AM

Hello, signature bounty manager, I have got prompted to senior member and I have updated my signature, I hope you can update my rank and give me the correct stakes when next post count.

Don't request bounty program in ANN thread, if you want manager update your rank, please write this request in Bounty Spectiv thread or PM manager, but I suggest should comment in bounty thread.

Bounty Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyico-spectiv-decentralized-virtual-reality-paused-until-oct-20th-1975288

Having read this entire thread (to try and get some idea of technical details or a business plan) I would say 70%-80% is bounty hunter shitposts.

Doesn't do the thread any favours for those looking for detail....

*EDIT*

Just like the one directly above this.

It adds nothing. Pointless shitposts.

Why would you read the whole thread to get some technical details. Go to the site or read the white paper in order to get some idea.

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Quote from: OracionSeis on July 24, 2017, 12:15:29 PM

Quote from: shenjing85 on July 24, 2017, 09:52:00 AM

Hello, signature bounty manager, I have got prompted to senior member and I have updated my signature, I hope you can update my rank and give me the correct stakes when next post count.

Don't request bounty program in ANN thread, if you want manager update your rank, please write this request in Bounty Spectiv thread or PM manager, but I suggest should comment in bounty thread.

Bounty Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyico-spectiv-decentralized-virtual-reality-paused-until-oct-20th-1975288

Having read this entire thread (to try and get some idea of technical details or a business plan) I would say 70%-80% is bounty hunter shitposts.

Doesn't do the thread any favours for those looking for detail....

*EDIT*

Just like the one directly above this.

It adds nothing. Pointless shitposts.

csmcc

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Quote from: Dvd1989 on July 24, 2017, 01:02:18 PM

Quote from: OracionSeis on July 24, 2017, 12:23:09 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

How do investors make money by investing in this ICO? Can anyone give some suggestions..
I was told there will be a filter to block certain content. Is that correct?

Are you know what is ICOs crowdsale? If you not know can read more in: https://www.smithandcrown.com/what-is-an-ico/

It as a new type IPO and you will buy a token with cheap price + bonus program if investing pre-crowdsale, then waiting listed exchange and you can earning profit with high price than the price you bought from crowdsale. This is a simple define.

I think he means what the value of a token will be, and how the value of a token can increase over time.

Yes he does.

I asked much the same thing.

Where is the revenue coming from? Where is the value coming from? How is anyone going to make a good return on this?

I'm not seeing it. If the only (hoped for) revenue then simple ROI will be years off. If ever.

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Quote from: OracionSeis on July 24, 2017, 12:23:09 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

How do investors make money by investing in this ICO? Can anyone give some suggestions..
I was told there will be a filter to block certain content. Is that correct?

Are you know what is ICOs crowdsale? If you not know can read more in: https://www.smithandcrown.com/what-is-an-ico/

It as a new type IPO and you will buy a token with cheap price + bonus program if investing pre-crowdsale, then waiting listed exchange and you can earning profit with high price than the price you bought from crowdsale. This is a simple define.

I think he means what the value of a token will be, and how the value of a token can increase over time.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

How do investors make money by investing in this ICO? Can anyone give some suggestions..
I was told there will be a filter to block certain content. Is that correct?

Are you know what is ICOs crowdsale? If you not know can read more in: https://www.smithandcrown.com/what-is-an-ico/

It as a new type IPO and you will buy a token with cheap price + bonus program if investing pre-crowdsale, then waiting listed exchange and you can earning profit with high price than the price you bought from crowdsale. This is a simple define.

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Quote from: shenjing85 on July 24, 2017, 09:52:00 AM

Hello, signature bounty manager, I have got prompted to senior member and I have updated my signature, I hope you can update my rank and give me the correct stakes when next post count.

Don't request bounty program in ANN thread, if you want manager update your rank, please write this request in Bounty Spectiv thread or PM manager, but I suggest should comment in bounty thread.

Bounty Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyico-spectiv-decentralized-virtual-reality-paused-until-oct-20th-1975288

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Quote from: shenjing85 on July 24, 2017, 09:52:00 AM

Hello, signature bounty manager, I have got prompted to senior member and I have updated my signature, I hope you can update my rank and give me the correct stakes when next post count.

If am not wrong I think you would have to post a rank update request post in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyico-spectiv-decentralized-virtual-reality-paused-until-oct-20th-1975288

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Quote from: sud on July 24, 2017, 11:02:48 AM

Quote from: shenjing85 on July 24, 2017, 07:22:19 AM

Quote from: amintek15 on July 24, 2017, 06:48:13 AM

Quote from: Morphling on July 24, 2017, 06:36:51 AM

Quote from: arikassuja on July 24, 2017, 04:14:26 AM

Can you add rewards to signature participants?
Because signatures are too risky, and we can not follow other campaigns, unlike translators, social media, blogpost, they can do it on any project, but we can not do it, and even if the project fails we get nothing, but others can get Gift from another project, I hope you consider this

agree, it seems the ico has been delayed for too much time, and we get nothing in the sxtra time but have to do 12 posts a week

wow guys you ask much for doing almost nothing ...

What do you mean by doing almost nothing? We will keep making 12 posts very week for more than a month. BTW, I am not asking much more, I just hope this project can be known by more and more people.

Seriously 12 posts a week is that hard? Most ppl do it even without sig campaigns by just participating in discussions.

BTW You can delete you sig if you already have made 50 posts and still be rewarded for your stakes. So if you are here only for reward, nothing stops you from changing signature to another project.

You have to know, spectiv already explain about ico delay and they will also raise the reward to 3% or 4%

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Quote from: shenjing85 on July 24, 2017, 07:22:19 AM

Quote from: amintek15 on July 24, 2017, 06:48:13 AM

Quote from: Morphling on July 24, 2017, 06:36:51 AM

Quote from: arikassuja on July 24, 2017, 04:14:26 AM

Can you add rewards to signature participants?
Because signatures are too risky, and we can not follow other campaigns, unlike translators, social media, blogpost, they can do it on any project, but we can not do it, and even if the project fails we get nothing, but others can get Gift from another project, I hope you consider this

agree, it seems the ico has been delayed for too much time, and we get nothing in the sxtra time but have to do 12 posts a week

wow guys you ask much for doing almost nothing ...

What do you mean by doing almost nothing? We will keep making 12 posts very week for more than a month. BTW, I am not asking much more, I just hope this project can be known by more and more people.

Seriously 12 posts a week is that hard? Most ppl do it even without sig campaigns by just participating in discussions.

BTW You can delete you sig if you already have made 50 posts and still be rewarded for your stakes. So if you are here only for reward, nothing stops you from changing signature to another project.

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Quote from: hanlieuiypm9832 on July 24, 2017, 09:11:28 AM

Thank you, Joe Urgo! rewarding content curator is very important since it a good method to encourage users to put more interesting content on this platform.

Maybe he could chip in on this thread with some thoughts as to where that revenue is going to come from?

Because, as I see it, the only revenue stream this will have when it goes live is advertising. Where they will be up against all the other video and VR sites out there all competing for a slice of the same revenue pie. And if you think all the advertisers are just going to drop all the established sites and flock to Spectiv, then you're all insane.

And finally, if I was an investor, I'd want to see how I'd be likely to get some return on my investment. If the site isn't getting much income, how do any backers expect to get their money back, never mind make a profit . What's going to push the price of the token up? And why?

And PLEASE...... I do NOT want a load of bounty hunters simply quoting this question with meaningless replies. This is a question for the project team.

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Spectiv VR Crowdsale: 12/08/17

Hello, signature bounty manager, I have got prompted to senior member and I have updated my signature, I hope you can update my rank and give me the correct stakes when next post count.

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Quote from: Entei on July 23, 2017, 06:52:17 PM

I was taken by surprise with this change of the date of the ICO, if I make 50 posts will I receive my reward regardless of the end of it? And your making 50 posts in 2 weeks, is it valid? I know need to be careful not to spam.

This i haven't understood either; They increase the bounty for those who stay, or is a option to leave after the initial mentioned date.

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Spectiv VR Crowdsale: 12/08/17

Quote from: amintek15 on July 24, 2017, 06:48:13 AM

Quote from: Morphling on July 24, 2017, 06:36:51 AM

Quote from: arikassuja on July 24, 2017, 04:14:26 AM

Can you add rewards to signature participants?
Because signatures are too risky, and we can not follow other campaigns, unlike translators, social media, blogpost, they can do it on any project, but we can not do it, and even if the project fails we get nothing, but others can get Gift from another project, I hope you consider this

agree, it seems the ico has been delayed for too much time, and we get nothing in the sxtra time but have to do 12 posts a week

wow guys you ask much for doing almost nothing ...

What do you mean by doing almost nothing? We will keep making 12 posts very week for more than a month. BTW, I am not asking much more, I just hope this project can be known by more and more people.

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Quote from: amintek15 on July 24, 2017, 06:48:13 AM

Quote from: Morphling on July 24, 2017, 06:36:51 AM

Quote from: arikassuja on July 24, 2017, 04:14:26 AM

Can you add rewards to signature participants?
Because signatures are too risky, and we can not follow other campaigns, unlike translators, social media, blogpost, they can do it on any project, but we can not do it, and even if the project fails we get nothing, but others can get Gift from another project, I hope you consider this

agree, it seems the ico has been delayed for too much time, and we get nothing in the sxtra time but have to do 12 posts a week

wow guys you ask much for doing almost nothing ...

That is not true. It is called opportunity cost.
They should have joined another sign campaign if the ICO wasn't delayed.

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Quote from: Morphling on July 24, 2017, 06:36:51 AM

Quote from: arikassuja on July 24, 2017, 04:14:26 AM

Can you add rewards to signature participants?
Because signatures are too risky, and we can not follow other campaigns, unlike translators, social media, blogpost, they can do it on any project, but we can not do it, and even if the project fails we get nothing, but others can get Gift from another project, I hope you consider this

agree, it seems the ico has been delayed for too much time, and we get nothing in the sxtra time but have to do 12 posts a week

wow guys you ask much for doing almost nothing ...

arikassuja

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Can you add rewards to signature participants?
Because signatures are too risky, and we can not follow other campaigns, unlike translators, social media, blogpost, they can do it on any project, but we can not do it, and even if the project fails we get nothing, but others can get Gift from another project, I hope you consider this

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