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I get your point about Oracles but if you think about that, Oracles are parents in this program and if they give a duty to their children, it is logical that they will decide whether is it enough or not. Even if you do a ai that can check the jobs and give red or green mark to it, if a parent is irresponsible enough can say "hey don't be sorry here is 200$ for you to spend on pc game, don't tell your mother"

The ultimate thing is parents need to be responsible. If they are not, URAllowance is not a magician. Just a tool for parents to help themselves.

That is exactly what I was getting at. The parents are the Oracles.

The modern use of the word oracle has sometimes become bastardized, meaning a good source of information.

In the classical sense oracles were not infallible at all, in fact, the priests deliberately misled people to influence politics, as the oracle's prophecies were understood to be the will of the gods verbatim - yet gibberish under the influence of chemical fumes, and the priests could interpret that gibberish as they pleased.

It is the classical sense of the word oracle, not the modern bastardization, I believe to be the correct meaning in the context of the Oracle problem. It is about the trustworthiness of the conduit, or like Michelle24 said, the interface, between the input and the output.

Bear with me. If you have ever watched an episode of Cesar Millan's Dog Whisperer you may notice he is not so much training the dog as he is teaching the handler. In most cases the handler is the source of the trouble, not the dog. Similarly URAllowance should be teaching the parents, not just their kids.

Yes but the problem is there is a paradox. If parents think they need to be educated they will educate themselves about this and it wouldn't be an issue for them. The problem is the parents which need education and think they don't need one. This group is something you can't help with an app like this. Being a responsible parent can't be forced. They do or they don't. It is out of URAllowance's area.

That is why they need to do it subtly. Just like the show is called Dog Whisperer instead of Human Whisperer.

Of course there is always a group that could use help but refuses it. You can only hope for the network effect, after word of mouth, they will give it a try.
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Great.. I really like your 'let's make this forum great again'
Looking forward to seeing the bounty details.
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Great news! Bounty campaigns will surely help in spreading faster the news about this project. Am excited to be part of it. Smiley
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How easy will it be to use your contracts for parents? Is there an easy to use interface in which you can put in contracts and let the kids check their stuff?

Yes. our smart contract editing is completely user-friendly. It's basically wysiwyg style input fields on the front end and pre-coded solidity with the blank data inputs filled in by the submission of the front end contract. It will be thoroughly tested. Right now a drag and drop smart contract written in solidity is untrustworthy when it comes to the transfer of funds. Especially in a crowd sale or Token generation type contract. Our Family-Smart contracts will be fairly simple though. Each having 50 lines of code or less. I am not a developer but I am very involved in the creative process. I don't want to give the impression that I could write a Family-Smart contract myself from scratch.......Yet.
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I get your point about Oracles but if you think about that, Oracles are parents in this program and if they give a duty to their children, it is logical that they will decide whether is it enough or not. Even if you do a ai that can check the jobs and give red or green mark to it, if a parent is irresponsible enough can say "hey don't be sorry here is 200$ for you to spend on pc game, don't tell your mother"

The ultimate thing is parents need to be responsible. If they are not, URAllowance is not a magician. Just a tool for parents to help themselves.

That is exactly what I was getting at. The parents are the Oracles.

The modern use of the word oracle has sometimes become bastardized, meaning a good source of information.

In the classical sense oracles were not infallible at all, in fact, the priests deliberately misled people to influence politics, as the oracle's prophecies were understood to be the will of the gods verbatim - yet gibberish under the influence of chemical fumes, and the priests could interpret that gibberish as they pleased.

It is the classical sense of the word oracle, not the modern bastardization, I believe to be the correct meaning in the context of the Oracle problem. It is about the trustworthiness of the conduit, or like Michelle24 said, the interface, between the input and the output.

Bear with me. If you have ever watched an episode of Cesar Millan's Dog Whisperer you may notice he is not so much training the dog as he is teaching the handler. In most cases, the handler is the source of the trouble, not the dog. Similarly URAllowance should be teaching the parents, not just their kids.

Bingo!! Absolutely correct. That is a huge piece of the URAllowance solution. We are in fact providing the tool that parents use to teach themselves how to teach their kids. As URAllowance matures as a platform, it will also become wiser. The URRules Forum will fill up with useful advice from parents that have been through the process and as time goes on, we all become better and more aware. I can't think of another platform that unites families in such a timeless manner while simultaneously creating real-world economic value and providing education that is also ageless. 

How easy will it be to use your contracts for parents? Is there an easy to use interface in which you can put in contracts and let the kids check their stuff?
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I get your point about Oracles but if you think about that, Oracles are parents in this program and if they give a duty to their children, it is logical that they will decide whether is it enough or not. Even if you do a ai that can check the jobs and give red or green mark to it, if a parent is irresponsible enough can say "hey don't be sorry here is 200$ for you to spend on pc game, don't tell your mother"

The ultimate thing is parents need to be responsible. If they are not, URAllowance is not a magician. Just a tool for parents to help themselves.

That is exactly what I was getting at. The parents are the Oracles.

The modern use of the word oracle has sometimes become bastardized, meaning a good source of information.

In the classical sense oracles were not infallible at all, in fact, the priests deliberately misled people to influence politics, as the oracle's prophecies were understood to be the will of the gods verbatim - yet gibberish under the influence of chemical fumes, and the priests could interpret that gibberish as they pleased.

It is the classical sense of the word oracle, not the modern bastardization, I believe to be the correct meaning in the context of the Oracle problem. It is about the trustworthiness of the conduit, or like Michelle24 said, the interface, between the input and the output.

Bear with me. If you have ever watched an episode of Cesar Millan's Dog Whisperer you may notice he is not so much training the dog as he is teaching the handler. In most cases, the handler is the source of the trouble, not the dog. Similarly URAllowance should be teaching the parents, not just their kids.

Bingo!! Absolutely correct. That is a huge piece of the URAllowance solution. We are in fact providing the tool that parents use to teach themselves how to teach their kids. As URAllowance matures as a platform, it will also become wiser. The URRules Forum will fill up with useful advice from parents that have been through the process and as time goes on, we all become better and more aware. I can't think of another platform that unites families in such a timeless manner while simultaneously creating real-world economic value and providing education that is also ageless. 
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This project is beginning to have healthy discussions among its followers and I'm getting more interested in this as I have 2 kids which I'm excited to test the platform's features as a use case. Smiley

If you think about it, parenting has concepts that also exists in economy and politics - just scaled down to a family level.

The Oracle problem I talked about before is something you will experience with URAllowance, id est: how do you translate a real life event into an accurate digital input for the smart contract? For example, when the job is to clean up their room, how do you make sure a dirty room does not result in a green check mark? In this case, the parents are the Oracles. Can they be trusted with themselves? The same goes with logistics projects on the blockchain. How do you make sure a package is indeed correctly delivered in order to signal it was a success to the smart contract? In that case, is the deliverer a trustworthy Oracle, or is there a possibility the deliverer fails to deliver the package while telling the smart contract it was received?

This becomes a lot easier when signals do not have to cross the border between the digital and analog world. For example, a job could consist of a math exam. The solution can be verified by a trustworthy Oracle, a calculator, and sent directly to the smart contract without any human intervention. In fact the calculator can be designed in such a trustworthy way, having no dependency on a centralized, possibly untruthful Oracle, one could say it is a trustless system, because no trust is required for the correctness of the system, other than the trust in the system as a whole.

That last bit may surprise you. Yes, even a trustless system requires a base level of trust. You could go as deep as not trusting 1 + 1 = 2.

These are some of the most constructive criticisms I've heard yet. It seems then that "trustless" is a term that is being tossed around rather loosely in the crypto world. Any time humans are involved in the verification process of any event, trust is reintroduced to the equation. Aside from having A.I. controlled surveillance systems connected to smart contracts, the best possible solution I can come up with right here on the spot is... Incentivised honesty and penalized laziness. You have got me thinking. I appreciate your comments. Please stick around. I'm sure as others read this conversation, more ideas and solutions will begin presenting themselves. Thank you, sir.
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This project is beginning to have healthy discussions among its followers and I'm getting more interested in this as I have 2 kids which I'm excited to test the platform's features as a use case. Smiley

That's what we are here for. The reason this forum exists is that a very important project was being developed and the creators needed a place to discuss its progress. Thank you for being here and I'm always glad to hear when someone is actually interested in using the URAllowance platform for its intended purpose. This isn't a token that you need to lock away and hoard like a crazy cat lady would her pizza box pizza protectors and soy sauce and towers of junk mail. We encourage that you use the URA for teaching your kids about finance and responsibility. From an economic standpoint, money needs liquidity. It needs to move around. It needs to grow. Us old school crypto nuts are hardwired to hold but I personally have never been a holder. I use cryptocurrency as a currency and I am teaching my son about it as a currency too. Please be sure to report here your experiences when the platform becomes available.
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I would like to think of it this way, that URAllowance is a project that will further the relationship between parents and kids and will eventually lead to a more harmonious relationship between them. Smiley
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I get your point about Oracles but if you think about that, Oracles are parents in this program and if they give a duty to their children, it is logical that they will decide whether is it enough or not. Even if you do a ai that can check the jobs and give red or green mark to it, if a parent is irresponsible enough can say "hey don't be sorry here is 200$ for you to spend on pc game, don't tell your mother"

The ultimate thing is parents need to be responsible. If they are not, URAllowance is not a magician. Just a tool for parents to help themselves.

That is exactly what I was getting at. The parents are the Oracles.

The modern use of the word oracle has sometimes become bastardized, meaning a good source of information.

In the classical sense oracles were not infallible at all, in fact, the priests deliberately misled people to influence politics, as the oracle's prophecies were understood to be the will of the gods verbatim - yet gibberish under the influence of chemical fumes, and the priests could interpret that gibberish as they pleased.

It is the classical sense of the word oracle, not the modern bastardization, I believe to be the correct meaning in the context of the Oracle problem. It is about the trustworthiness of the conduit, or like Michelle24 said, the interface, between the input and the output.

Bear with me. If you have ever watched an episode of Cesar Millan's Dog Whisperer you may notice he is not so much training the dog as he is teaching the handler. In most cases the handler is the source of the trouble, not the dog. Similarly URAllowance should be teaching the parents, not just their kids.

Yes but the problem is there is a paradox. If parents think they need to be educated they will educate themselves about this and it wouldn't be an issue for them. The problem is the parents which need education and think they don't need one. This group is something you can't help with an app like this. Being a responsible parent can't be forced. They do or they don't. It is out of URAllowance's area.

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This project is beginning to have healthy discussions among its followers and I'm getting more interested in this as I have 2 kids which I'm excited to test the platform's features as a use case. Smiley

If you think about it, parenting has concepts that also exists in economy and politics - just scaled down to a family level.

The Oracle problem I talked about before is something you will experience with URAllowance, id est: how do you translate a real life event into an accurate digital input for the smart contract? For example, when the job is to clean up their room, how do you make sure a dirty room does not result in a green check mark? In this case, the parents are the Oracles. Can they be trusted with themselves? The same goes with logistics projects on the blockchain. How do you make sure a package is indeed correctly delivered in order to signal it was a success to the smart contract? In that case, is the deliverer a trustworthy Oracle, or is there a possibility the deliverer fails to deliver the package while telling the smart contract it was received?

This becomes a lot easier when signals do not have to cross the border between the digital and analog world. For example, a job could consist of a math exam. The solution can be verified by a trustworthy Oracle, a calculator, and sent directly to the smart contract without any human intervention. In fact the calculator can be designed in such a trustworthy way, having no dependency on a centralized, possibly untruthful Oracle, one could say it is a trustless system, because no trust is required for the correctness of the system, other than the trust in the system as a whole.

That last bit may surprise you. Yes, even a trustless system requires a base level of trust. You could go as deep as not trusting 1 + 1 = 2.

Well in case of a parents child relationship both have to trust each other or there have to be put in specific rules for for example how a cleaned up room has to look like. For example no toys on the floor, not just put into the closet but sorted or what ever. I think in this case there will be some solutions.
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I get your point about Oracles but if you think about that, Oracles are parents in this program and if they give a duty to their children, it is logical that they will decide whether is it enough or not. Even if you do a ai that can check the jobs and give red or green mark to it, if a parent is irresponsible enough can say "hey don't be sorry here is 200$ for you to spend on pc game, don't tell your mother"

The ultimate thing is parents need to be responsible. If they are not, URAllowance is not a magician. Just a tool for parents to help themselves.

That is exactly what I was getting at. The parents are the Oracles.

The modern use of the word oracle has sometimes become bastardized, meaning a good source of information.

In the classical sense oracles were not infallible at all, in fact, the priests deliberately misled people to influence politics, as the oracle's prophecies were understood to be the will of the gods verbatim - yet gibberish under the influence of chemical fumes, and the priests could interpret that gibberish as they pleased.

It is the classical sense of the word oracle, not the modern bastardization, I believe to be the correct meaning in the context of the Oracle problem. It is about the trustworthiness of the conduit, or like Michelle24 said, the interface, between the input and the output.

Bear with me. If you have ever watched an episode of Cesar Millan's Dog Whisperer you may notice he is not so much training the dog as he is teaching the handler. In most cases the handler is the source of the trouble, not the dog. Similarly URAllowance should be teaching the parents, not just their kids.
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This project is beginning to have healthy discussions among its followers and I'm getting more interested in this as I have 2 kids which I'm excited to test the platform's features as a use case. Smiley

If you think about it, parenting has concepts that also exists in economy and politics - just scaled down to a family level.

The Oracle problem I talked about before is something you will experience with URAllowance, id est: how do you translate a real life event into an accurate digital input for the smart contract? For example, when the job is to clean up their room, how do you make sure a dirty room does not result in a green check mark? In this case, the parents are the Oracles. Can they be trusted with themselves? The same goes with logistics projects on the blockchain. How do you make sure a package is indeed correctly delivered in order to signal it was a success to the smart contract? In that case, is the deliverer a trustworthy Oracle, or is there a possibility the deliverer fails to deliver the package while telling the smart contract it was received?

This becomes a lot easier when signals do not have to cross the border between the digital and analog world. For example, a job could consist of a math exam. The solution can be verified by a trustworthy Oracle, a calculator, and sent directly to the smart contract without any human intervention. In fact the calculator can be designed in such a trustworthy way, having no dependency on a centralized, possibly untruthful Oracle, one could say it is a trustless system, because no trust is required for the correctness of the system, other than the trust in the system as a whole.

That last bit may surprise you. Yes, even a trustless system requires a base level of trust. You could go as deep as not trusting 1 + 1 = 2.

I get your point about Oracles but if you think about that, Oracles are parents in this program and if they give a duty to their children, it is logical that they will decide whether is it enough or not. Even if you do a ai that can check the jobs and give red or green mark to it, if a parent is irresponsible enough can say "hey don't be sorry here is 200$ for you to spend on pc game, don't tell your mother"

The ultimate thing is parents need to be responsible. If they are not, URAllowance is not a magician. Just a tool for parents to help themselves.
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This project is beginning to have healthy discussions among its followers and I'm getting more interested in this as I have 2 kids which I'm excited to test the platform's features as a use case. Smiley

If you think about it, parenting has concepts that also exists in economy and politics - just scaled down to a family level.

The Oracle problem I talked about before is something you will experience with URAllowance, id est: how do you translate a real life event into an accurate digital input for the smart contract? For example, when the job is to clean up their room, how do you make sure a dirty room does not result in a green check mark? In this case, the parents are the Oracles. Can they be trusted with themselves? The same goes with logistics projects on the blockchain. How do you make sure a package is indeed correctly delivered in order to signal it was a success to the smart contract? In that case, is the deliverer a trustworthy Oracle, or is there a possibility the deliverer fails to deliver the package while telling the smart contract it was received?

This becomes a lot easier when signals do not have to cross the border between the digital and analog world. For example, a job could consist of a math exam. The solution can be verified by a trustworthy Oracle, a calculator, and sent directly to the smart contract without any human intervention. In fact the calculator can be designed in such a trustworthy way, having no dependency on a centralized, possibly untruthful Oracle, one could say it is a trustless system, because no trust is required for the correctness of the system, other than the trust in the system as a whole.

That last bit may surprise you. Yes, even a trustless system requires a base level of trust. You could go as deep as not trusting 1 + 1 = 2.
Very interesting discussion.
Yes the problem is really the interface between the real world and the digital.
The trust in my case is not the problem, because my child is trusting me to 100%. Grin
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This project is beginning to have healthy discussions among its followers and I'm getting more interested in this as I have 2 kids which I'm excited to test the platform's features as a use case. Smiley

If you think about it, parenting has concepts that also exists in economy and politics - just scaled down to a family level.

The Oracle problem I talked about before is something you will experience with URAllowance, id est: how do you translate a real life event into an accurate digital input for the smart contract? For example, when the job is to clean up their room, how do you make sure a dirty room does not result in a green check mark? In this case, the parents are the Oracles. Can they be trusted with themselves? The same goes with logistics projects on the blockchain. How do you make sure a package is indeed correctly delivered in order to signal it was a success to the smart contract? In that case, is the deliverer a trustworthy Oracle, or is there a possibility the deliverer fails to deliver the package while telling the smart contract it was received?

This becomes a lot easier when signals do not have to cross the border between the digital and analog world. For example, a job could consist of a math exam. The solution can be verified by a trustworthy Oracle, a calculator, and sent directly to the smart contract without any human intervention. In fact the calculator can be designed in such a trustworthy way, having no dependency on a centralized, possibly untruthful Oracle, one could say it is a trustless system, because no trust is required for the correctness of the system, other than the trust in the system as a whole.

That last bit may surprise you. Yes, even a trustless system requires a base level of trust. You could go as deep as not trusting 1 + 1 = 2.
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