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quarkchain.io
Different qualities are definitely different in popularity, and
only the most qualified can hold popularity. The criteria demanded
many services and facilities a deeper gambling platform.


Hey, thank you for your interest! We’ll do our best to reach our targets. Stay tuned!

With optimistic, I think the sales target can be achieved.
Especially with the business market is still very strong.
And with effective marketing do not shut the possibility
will exceed the sales target.
In addition, I am also preparing to wait for the release of
a new stable version, hoping to be realized soon.
So, hopefully everything can be solved well. Happy working.
jr. member
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Some observations based on my taking a chance on your raffle.

Prior to me entering the raffle, all winning chances were either 50% or higher.

0x61Ec39942476D93C475f91ACA2fAE062d64B250c placed a bet for 0.01 eth 4 days ago on May-10-2018 10:57:44 AM +UTC

I placed a bet for 0.012 eth on May-14-2018 06:01:01 PM +UTC

The raffle drawing took place on 3:07PM. (counting down of 5:00 minutes to 0:00).

There was a dialog box that said "raffle drawing in process. please wait" (something similar to that. I didn't write it down).

After waiting for about 10 minutes of waiting with nothing happening, I walked away.

I came back a few hours later. I saw "You won 0.022 ETH" dialog on left bottom of my screen.  When I clicked on it, it disappeared.  When I checked my address I saw that no deposit came in.

what happened?

We’ve also refunded  your bet to your Ethereum address due to the mistake in our web interface.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x59e002a4e38c74ac9f648ac60c3ce93ba428f27d16bfcde7d7763b416f119b60

Thanks for the refund.  Just wondering why you process Odd games differently from Even games.  The code segments seem to be identical from Odd and Even game index.

Hello, the reason for that is that we don't want to overpay Oraclize. Here is the deal basically: at the end of the raffle we would clean up all the bets, jackpot and other variables. In EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine) every time you use delete opcode (which is equivalent to setting a storage to 0) you get refunded 10,000 gas. Because Oraclize callback was doing the cleanup we were losing a lot of refunded gas to Oraclize.

Now we have a different system: we clean up the previous game on the beginning of the next game (first bet of the next game), in order to differentiate between "next" and "previous" game we just decided to separate them into odd and even. So at the start of the odd game the first bet also cleans up the previous even game and vice versa. The result is that our players get a nice gas refund which reduces the transaction price for placing a bet by roughly 50%.

Thanks and hope that this architectural decision on our side makes sense to you.

Your explanation seems to make a lot of sense regarding the refund of gas.  But please do refer to "When paying onchain there is no reliable backward-compatible way for Oraclize to give back the gas "change". This is due to how Ethereum works: it is not possible to determine the exact amount of gas that will be used before the transaction gets confirmed, because it depends on the current state. Sending back the unspent gas afterwards would potentially create side effects."

from https://docs.oraclize.it/#pricing-advanced-datasources-call-fee

Are they talking about the samething?

Yes, in a sense. Basically what they are saying is that all the extra gas will not be refuned to us, so in order to minimize costs we need to approximate the gas costs as accurately as possible.

I'm not clear with your explanation vs. what Oraclize is talking about.  Oraclize is talking about returning the unused "change" which can't be returned.  So setting the correct gas amount would be the best way to "save" on the fee.  But you are talking about actual "refund" with a hard number of 10,000 gas.  Yet, I could not find any mentions of refund.  Would you point out where the refund is discussed?
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Different qualities are definitely different in popularity, and
only the most qualified can hold popularity. The criteria demanded
many services and facilities a deeper gambling platform.

To become a popular gambling platform, at least it should be
+ Licensed in certain jurisdictions to ensure the legitimacy of its business
+ Platform that is compatible with all operating systems
+ Has 2 main features, bettor against the bookie and bettor against bettor
+ Security and transparency that is guaranteed and completely fair.
+ Have a complete service line that is online, retail and call center special.
+ Offered in the coverage area of ​​most countries around the world.
+ Has a full sport gambling feature, and more.

Interesting feature ZoomRaffle is a blockchain raffle game, which are
re-introduced and will propagate. Ether raffles for games that are on
blockchain ethereum.
The game is unique and uses cutting edge blockchain technology, which
has the characteristics of speed in the system, transparent, decentralized,
fair and smartcontract. If this is successful, it will be a good support
in crypto's world and blockchain technology.

Demo version that has been launched and the market share of products that
are still tough, will be considered by investors. Hopefully this project
reaches the target and success in the future.

Hey, thank you for your interest! We’ll do our best to reach our targets. Stay tuned!
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The advantage of this project over similar ones is that already this project is launched in the demo and only the team has to develop it.
yes surely, who else if not the team that will develop, I think the team is the most central builder in any project
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quarkchain.io
Different qualities are definitely different in popularity, and
only the most qualified can hold popularity. The criteria demanded
many services and facilities a deeper gambling platform.

To become a popular gambling platform, at least it should be
+ Licensed in certain jurisdictions to ensure the legitimacy of its business
+ Platform that is compatible with all operating systems
+ Has 2 main features, bettor against the bookie and bettor against bettor
+ Security and transparency that is guaranteed and completely fair.
+ Have a complete service line that is online, retail and call center special.
+ Offered in the coverage area of ​​most countries around the world.
+ Has a full sport gambling feature, and more.

Interesting feature ZoomRaffle is a blockchain raffle game, which are
re-introduced and will propagate. Ether raffles for games that are on
blockchain ethereum.
The game is unique and uses cutting edge blockchain technology, which
has the characteristics of speed in the system, transparent, decentralized,
fair and smartcontract. If this is successful, it will be a good support
in crypto's world and blockchain technology.

Demo version that has been launched and the market share of products that
are still tough, will be considered by investors. Hopefully this project
reaches the target and success in the future.
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CHECK OUT OUR TELEGRAM COMMUNITY CHAT: https://t.me/ZoomRaffle
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Can someone message me if there is any posiblities on how to get on early to join bounties??

Hey, it is all described in this thread. It depends on which Campaign you wish to join. Just follow the rules on the first page. If you have any further questions, I can help you!
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Can someone message me if there is any posiblities on how to get on early to join bounties??
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Some observations based on my taking a chance on your raffle.

Prior to me entering the raffle, all winning chances were either 50% or higher.

0x61Ec39942476D93C475f91ACA2fAE062d64B250c placed a bet for 0.01 eth 4 days ago on May-10-2018 10:57:44 AM +UTC

I placed a bet for 0.012 eth on May-14-2018 06:01:01 PM +UTC

The raffle drawing took place on 3:07PM. (counting down of 5:00 minutes to 0:00).

There was a dialog box that said "raffle drawing in process. please wait" (something similar to that. I didn't write it down).

After waiting for about 10 minutes of waiting with nothing happening, I walked away.

I came back a few hours later. I saw "You won 0.022 ETH" dialog on left bottom of my screen.  When I clicked on it, it disappeared.  When I checked my address I saw that no deposit came in.

what happened?

We’ve also refunded  your bet to your Ethereum address due to the mistake in our web interface.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x59e002a4e38c74ac9f648ac60c3ce93ba428f27d16bfcde7d7763b416f119b60

Thanks for the refund.  Just wondering why you process Odd games differently from Even games.  The code segments seem to be identical from Odd and Even game index.

Hello, the reason for that is that we don't want to overpay Oraclize. Here is the deal basically: at the end of the raffle we would clean up all the bets, jackpot and other variables. In EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine) every time you use delete opcode (which is equivalent to setting a storage to 0) you get refunded 10,000 gas. Because Oraclize callback was doing the cleanup we were losing a lot of refunded gas to Oraclize.

Now we have a different system: we clean up the previous game on the beginning of the next game (first bet of the next game), in order to differentiate between "next" and "previous" game we just decided to separate them into odd and even. So at the start of the odd game the first bet also cleans up the previous even game and vice versa. The result is that our players get a nice gas refund which reduces the transaction price for placing a bet by roughly 50%.

Thanks and hope that this architectural decision on our side makes sense to you.

Your explanation seems to make a lot of sense regarding the refund of gas.  But please do refer to "When paying onchain there is no reliable backward-compatible way for Oraclize to give back the gas "change". This is due to how Ethereum works: it is not possible to determine the exact amount of gas that will be used before the transaction gets confirmed, because it depends on the current state. Sending back the unspent gas afterwards would potentially create side effects."

from https://docs.oraclize.it/#pricing-advanced-datasources-call-fee

Are they talking about the samething?

Yes, in a sense. Basically what they are saying is that all the extra gas will not be refuned to us, so in order to minimize costs we need to approximate the gas costs as accurately as possible.
jr. member
Activity: 182
Merit: 1
Some observations based on my taking a chance on your raffle.

Prior to me entering the raffle, all winning chances were either 50% or higher.

0x61Ec39942476D93C475f91ACA2fAE062d64B250c placed a bet for 0.01 eth 4 days ago on May-10-2018 10:57:44 AM +UTC

I placed a bet for 0.012 eth on May-14-2018 06:01:01 PM +UTC

The raffle drawing took place on 3:07PM. (counting down of 5:00 minutes to 0:00).

There was a dialog box that said "raffle drawing in process. please wait" (something similar to that. I didn't write it down).

After waiting for about 10 minutes of waiting with nothing happening, I walked away.

I came back a few hours later. I saw "You won 0.022 ETH" dialog on left bottom of my screen.  When I clicked on it, it disappeared.  When I checked my address I saw that no deposit came in.

what happened?

We’ve also refunded  your bet to your Ethereum address due to the mistake in our web interface.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x59e002a4e38c74ac9f648ac60c3ce93ba428f27d16bfcde7d7763b416f119b60

Thanks for the refund.  Just wondering why you process Odd games differently from Even games.  The code segments seem to be identical from Odd and Even game index.

Hello, the reason for that is that we don't want to overpay Oraclize. Here is the deal basically: at the end of the raffle we would clean up all the bets, jackpot and other variables. In EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine) every time you use delete opcode (which is equivalent to setting a storage to 0) you get refunded 10,000 gas. Because Oraclize callback was doing the cleanup we were losing a lot of refunded gas to Oraclize.

Now we have a different system: we clean up the previous game on the beginning of the next game (first bet of the next game), in order to differentiate between "next" and "previous" game we just decided to separate them into odd and even. So at the start of the odd game the first bet also cleans up the previous even game and vice versa. The result is that our players get a nice gas refund which reduces the transaction price for placing a bet by roughly 50%.

Thanks and hope that this architectural decision on our side makes sense to you.

Your explanation seems to make a lot of sense regarding the refund of gas.  But please do refer to "When paying onchain there is no reliable backward-compatible way for Oraclize to give back the gas "change". This is due to how Ethereum works: it is not possible to determine the exact amount of gas that will be used before the transaction gets confirmed, because it depends on the current state. Sending back the unspent gas afterwards would potentially create side effects."

from https://docs.oraclize.it/#pricing-advanced-datasources-call-fee

Are they talking about the samething?
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Activity: 42
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Activity: 42
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Some observations based on my taking a chance on your raffle.

Prior to me entering the raffle, all winning chances were either 50% or higher.

0x61Ec39942476D93C475f91ACA2fAE062d64B250c placed a bet for 0.01 eth 4 days ago on May-10-2018 10:57:44 AM +UTC

I placed a bet for 0.012 eth on May-14-2018 06:01:01 PM +UTC

The raffle drawing took place on 3:07PM. (counting down of 5:00 minutes to 0:00).

There was a dialog box that said "raffle drawing in process. please wait" (something similar to that. I didn't write it down).

After waiting for about 10 minutes of waiting with nothing happening, I walked away.

I came back a few hours later. I saw "You won 0.022 ETH" dialog on left bottom of my screen.  When I clicked on it, it disappeared.  When I checked my address I saw that no deposit came in.

what happened?

Here is your bet of 0.012 eth coming in: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xcd0821248aa8fe5e22635041cf374a60420e3119f0e00d6795776137c4698230. Raffle update indeed took 2 hours. Here is the call to update https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe03a1b3efb752227f486a01486f1fff7520e6e8518961e65aa77429d81e5e0bd. After the update we got an oraclize callback here https://etherscan.io/tx/0xfc007c82705be2af58817d06bdd5c935d55ec73c8ed7aa4bf5d791e1af007e23. As you can see, in the oraclize callback Win even occured. You can check it out here: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xfc007c82705be2af58817d06bdd5c935d55ec73c8ed7aa4bf5d791e1af007e23#eventlog

We are very sorry that the web interface indicated that you won while in reality it didn't happen. This might be connected to the fact that the tab was not active for a long period of time, so I'm not sure if the win event was properly recorded by Web3js. This will need a little investigation.

Btw, I just verified the contract code on etherscan.io and you can take a look at it yourself here: https://etherscan.io/address/0xfc637df69fbeceff245a20053764674ace313398#code

Just so that you know there is nothing strange going on there.
There was a problem with raffle update time, we’ve solved it already.

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

You say that the raffle update time issue is already solved.  May I ask what the issue was that took 2 hours to process the raffle?

In short, the script that would initiate the call to Oraclize for a random number after 5 minutes had a hardcoded gas price of 5Gwei. Because the minimum price in the network nowadays is at least 8 Gwei the transaction got stuck for hours. We had to manually cancel it and initiate a new one. Yesterday we solved this problem by integrating our server logic with https://ethgasstation.info/ API which lets us dynamically calculate the best gas price for the update() call to the smart contract.
copper member
Activity: 42
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Some observations based on my taking a chance on your raffle.

Prior to me entering the raffle, all winning chances were either 50% or higher.

0x61Ec39942476D93C475f91ACA2fAE062d64B250c placed a bet for 0.01 eth 4 days ago on May-10-2018 10:57:44 AM +UTC

I placed a bet for 0.012 eth on May-14-2018 06:01:01 PM +UTC

The raffle drawing took place on 3:07PM. (counting down of 5:00 minutes to 0:00).

There was a dialog box that said "raffle drawing in process. please wait" (something similar to that. I didn't write it down).

After waiting for about 10 minutes of waiting with nothing happening, I walked away.

I came back a few hours later. I saw "You won 0.022 ETH" dialog on left bottom of my screen.  When I clicked on it, it disappeared.  When I checked my address I saw that no deposit came in.

what happened?

We’ve also refunded  your bet to your Ethereum address due to the mistake in our web interface.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x59e002a4e38c74ac9f648ac60c3ce93ba428f27d16bfcde7d7763b416f119b60

Thanks for the refund.  Just wondering why you process Odd games differently from Even games.  The code segments seem to be identical from Odd and Even game index.

Hello, the reason for that is that we don't want to overpay Oraclize. Here is the deal basically: at the end of the raffle we would clean up all the bets, jackpot and other variables. In EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine) every time you use delete opcode (which is equivalent to setting a storage to 0) you get refunded 10,000 gas. Because Oraclize callback was doing the cleanup we were losing a lot of refunded gas to Oraclize.

Now we have a different system: we clean up the previous game on the beginning of the next game (first bet of the next game), in order to differentiate between "next" and "previous" game we just decided to separate them into odd and even. So at the start of the odd game the first bet also cleans up the previous even game and vice versa. The result is that our players get a nice gas refund which reduces the transaction price for placing a bet by roughly 50%.

Thanks and hope that this architectural decision on our side makes sense to you.
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Some observations based on my taking a chance on your raffle.

Prior to me entering the raffle, all winning chances were either 50% or higher.

0x61Ec39942476D93C475f91ACA2fAE062d64B250c placed a bet for 0.01 eth 4 days ago on May-10-2018 10:57:44 AM +UTC

I placed a bet for 0.012 eth on May-14-2018 06:01:01 PM +UTC

The raffle drawing took place on 3:07PM. (counting down of 5:00 minutes to 0:00).

There was a dialog box that said "raffle drawing in process. please wait" (something similar to that. I didn't write it down).

After waiting for about 10 minutes of waiting with nothing happening, I walked away.

I came back a few hours later. I saw "You won 0.022 ETH" dialog on left bottom of my screen.  When I clicked on it, it disappeared.  When I checked my address I saw that no deposit came in.

what happened?

We’ve also refunded  your bet to your Ethereum address due to the mistake in our web interface.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x59e002a4e38c74ac9f648ac60c3ce93ba428f27d16bfcde7d7763b416f119b60

Thanks for the refund.  Just wondering why you process Odd games differently from Even games.  The code segments seem to be identical from Odd and Even game index.
jr. member
Activity: 182
Merit: 1
Some observations based on my taking a chance on your raffle.

Prior to me entering the raffle, all winning chances were either 50% or higher.

0x61Ec39942476D93C475f91ACA2fAE062d64B250c placed a bet for 0.01 eth 4 days ago on May-10-2018 10:57:44 AM +UTC

I placed a bet for 0.012 eth on May-14-2018 06:01:01 PM +UTC

The raffle drawing took place on 3:07PM. (counting down of 5:00 minutes to 0:00).

There was a dialog box that said "raffle drawing in process. please wait" (something similar to that. I didn't write it down).

After waiting for about 10 minutes of waiting with nothing happening, I walked away.

I came back a few hours later. I saw "You won 0.022 ETH" dialog on left bottom of my screen.  When I clicked on it, it disappeared.  When I checked my address I saw that no deposit came in.

what happened?

Here is your bet of 0.012 eth coming in: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xcd0821248aa8fe5e22635041cf374a60420e3119f0e00d6795776137c4698230. Raffle update indeed took 2 hours. Here is the call to update https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe03a1b3efb752227f486a01486f1fff7520e6e8518961e65aa77429d81e5e0bd. After the update we got an oraclize callback here https://etherscan.io/tx/0xfc007c82705be2af58817d06bdd5c935d55ec73c8ed7aa4bf5d791e1af007e23. As you can see, in the oraclize callback Win even occured. You can check it out here: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xfc007c82705be2af58817d06bdd5c935d55ec73c8ed7aa4bf5d791e1af007e23#eventlog

We are very sorry that the web interface indicated that you won while in reality it didn't happen. This might be connected to the fact that the tab was not active for a long period of time, so I'm not sure if the win event was properly recorded by Web3js. This will need a little investigation.

Btw, I just verified the contract code on etherscan.io and you can take a look at it yourself here: https://etherscan.io/address/0xfc637df69fbeceff245a20053764674ace313398#code

Just so that you know there is nothing strange going on there.
There was a problem with raffle update time, we’ve solved it already.

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

You say that the raffle update time issue is already solved.  May I ask what the issue was that took 2 hours to process the raffle?
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