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legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 08, 2014, 03:52:45 PM
So the LLC address is seems to be sending coins out. porbably back to the investors. ...

http://explorer.karmacoin.me/address/K8rMbDnZ7xX9VqBXmLwA7DCnYra1ftw3gE


just saw it and i felt i should give everyone a heads up...


full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
September 08, 2014, 03:01:26 PM
Simple answer to save KARM on c-cex.com, spend half a day mining another altcoin and buy the KARM with the other altcoin funds.

KARM/BTQ
KARM/LTC
KARM/DOGE
KARM/THC

Got any junk coins just laying around, use them to set up KARM trades.

Granted C-Cex isn't that heavy in volume, but anything is worthwhile and any delisting would be seen as negative to people new to KARM.



Would 5$ be enough?
Ill send you 1ltc you can buy with if you think it would be enough...
Buying some ltc right now so my order just needs to be matched.

Im not in the mood to create another account so with 1 ltc you can buy up to 360 litoshi or so, weird orders page.
And if you would be even kinder, donate the karma you bought to the donation fund for bounties.

Hope to hear from you Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
September 08, 2014, 02:42:52 PM
Simple answer to save KARM on c-cex.com, spend half a day mining another altcoin and buy the KARM with the other altcoin funds.

KARM/BTQ
KARM/LTC
KARM/DOGE
KARM/THC

Got any junk coins just laying around, use them to set up KARM trades.

Granted C-Cex isn't that heavy in volume, but anything is worthwhile and any delisting would be seen as negative to people new to KARM.

newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
September 08, 2014, 02:18:14 PM
I'll help anyway I can.

I have around 60 people signed up for a giveaway. Non crypto people. I'll try and get some of them to post here to say hello.

They're new to crypto but are keen to find out what it's all about.

If anyone would like to add to my fund for the giveaway let me know.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
September 08, 2014, 02:17:23 PM
Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?
Is there any need for some revenue/expense or statistical reporting that can help the community see what's going on with the LLC.  I could do something like that.  Maybe weekly or monthly.  I'm sure I can carve out some time somewhere.  Please let me know here or pm me.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
September 08, 2014, 02:10:14 PM
Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?

Ofcourse i want to help. The past days ive been trying to recruit people around me to buy karma, even if its a small share, everything counts.

So to answer your question

Yes, how can i help?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 08, 2014, 01:27:00 PM
Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?

How can i help?
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 501
Creator of the ICO
September 08, 2014, 01:07:22 PM
Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 08, 2014, 12:25:21 PM
Fundamentally unless you create a "pull based economy" you'll never make this sustainable...

For every "buyer" there is a "seller" -- why on earth are you buying your own coins??

Or worse, supporting someone else who clearly wants to get out of the economy...

If you really wanted this to work you would be getting friends and family involved and giving the coins away instead of hoarding them.

You'd be encouraging businesses to accept them and join marketplaces.

Otherwise, all I'm seeing here is a shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic

Just my .02

-dvd

We can all do what we can all do, and hopefully we move forward...is a lot better than waiting for something to happen. Some of us will be focusing our effort on what you said and some can do buy support Wink
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
September 08, 2014, 12:17:51 PM
Small buy wall put up on Minty. Need more coins for my own personal giveaway  Wink

I'll be bringing a few dozen people in soon.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
September 08, 2014, 12:12:05 PM
Dear Karma team (who dont want to be called team).
I have one question, i believe you are all working hard, unlike most of us, to get Karma into a new project, bringing it to Asia.
My only question, for motivational purpose, are you making any good progress the past days? I believe it will motivate some people into taking that last step into helping karma.
Again, if there is any writing of text needed (not programming), should and ill write Wink
Cheers
sr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 250
September 08, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
Fundamentally unless you create a "pull based economy" you'll never make this sustainable...

For every "buyer" there is a "seller" -- why on earth are you buying your own coins??

Or worse, supporting someone else who clearly wants to get out of the economy...

If you really wanted this to work you would be getting friends and family involved and giving the coins away instead of hoarding them.

You'd be encouraging businesses to accept them and join marketplaces.

Otherwise, all I'm seeing here is a shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic

Just my .02

-dvd

I know what you mean and I can tell you that I'll be splitting my buy and send some to support some bounties so others can enter the Karma universe Smiley.
Tell me, after your due diligence, did you chose to enter Karma?
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
September 08, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
Fundamentally unless you create a "pull based economy" you'll never make this sustainable...

For every "buyer" there is a "seller" -- why on earth are you buying your own coins??

Or worse, supporting someone else who clearly wants to get out of the economy...

If you really wanted this to work you would be getting friends and family involved and giving the coins away instead of hoarding them.

You'd be encouraging businesses to accept them and join marketplaces.

Otherwise, all I'm seeing here is a shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic

Just my .02

-dvd

This is true, this is why i already got a total of 4 different people (1 familie, 3 friends) into karma. Nevertheless, it isn't entirely a 'shuffeling of the deck' all the coins that are held by 'hoarders' are not sold. If 80% of the coins are held and 20% not, there is only 20% who is wanting to sell at this price, theoratically. So if new buyers want to buy, again theoratically, the price should rise faster because there are fewer sellers becsuse their coins are already sold.

Ofcourse, this economy cant be analysed theoratically but we can always discuss the possibilities if certain things are done.
legendary
Activity: 1024
Merit: 1004
September 08, 2014, 11:58:38 AM
Fundamentally unless you create a "pull based economy" you'll never make this sustainable...

For every "buyer" there is a "seller" -- why on earth are you buying your own coins??

Or worse, supporting someone else who clearly wants to get out of the economy...

If you really wanted this to work you would be getting friends and family involved and giving the coins away instead of hoarding them.

You'd be encouraging businesses to accept them and join marketplaces.

Otherwise, all I'm seeing here is a shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic

Just my .02

-dvd
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 08, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
I would love to donate and those 0.2btc on cryptorush are stuck there till the end of the beta fase.
I will look if i have some 30 euros (40$) spendable to put a small small buy wall up, but this only works properly if i have some support, so the people with some btc, ltc or cash left, please respond to this post and we will privatly plan something via pm's.

Cheers

Okay nobody in for this? Lets put it in a diffrent context. You hold Karma and you are not selling it right now, this means you are not happy with the price of Karma now. So what if you take 20/30/40/50 dollars and place a buy order at the current price (or 1, 2 litoshi above). This means that if the price stays like this, you didnt lose a thing, but if it goes up and you bought the karma, yeah even make more money (and you know all those 200 people reading this right now love €€$$€€$$). So lets give this coin some momentum before it can explode, no not to the moon, but to ASIA. So of you have some small money left, send me a pm.
If you cant miss any money, please see which other task you can fullfill for the community and the team.
Deal?Smiley

Let us keep doing a buy support, you collect cheap karma and help our coin.
sr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 250
September 08, 2014, 11:23:57 AM
I would love to donate and those 0.2btc on cryptorush are stuck there till the end of the beta fase.
I will look if i have some 30 euros (40$) spendable to put a small small buy wall up, but this only works properly if i have some support, so the people with some btc, ltc or cash left, please respond to this post and we will privatly plan something via pm's.

Cheers

Okay nobody in for this? Lets put it in a diffrent context. You hold Karma and you are not selling it right now, this means you are not happy with the price of Karma now. So what if you take 20/30/40/50 dollars and place a buy order at the current price (or 1, 2 litoshi above). This means that if the price stays like this, you didnt lose a thing, but if it goes up and you bought the karma, yeah even make more money (and you know all those 200 people reading this right now love €€$$€€$$). So lets give this coin some momentum before it can explode, no not to the moon, but to ASIA. So of you have some small money left, send me a pm.
If you cant miss any money, please see which other task you can fullfill for the community and the team.
Deal?Smiley

I've done this several minutes ago at cryptsy....
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
September 08, 2014, 11:18:56 AM
I would love to donate and those 0.2btc on cryptorush are stuck there till the end of the beta fase.
I will look if i have some 30 euros (40$) spendable to put a small small buy wall up, but this only works properly if i have some support, so the people with some btc, ltc or cash left, please respond to this post and we will privatly plan something via pm's.

Cheers

Okay nobody in for this? Lets put it in a diffrent context. You hold Karma and you are not selling it right now, this means you are not happy with the price of Karma now. So what if you take 20/30/40/50 dollars and place a buy order at the current price (or 1, 2 litoshi above). This means that if the price stays like this, you didnt lose a thing, but if it goes up and you bought the karma, yeah even make more money (and you know all those 200 people reading this right now love €€$$€€$$). So lets give this coin some momentum before it can explode, no not to the moon, but to ASIA. So of you have some small money left, send me a pm.
If you cant miss any money, please see which other task you can fullfill for the community and the team.
Deal?Smiley
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
September 08, 2014, 10:11:53 AM
I would love to donate and those 0.2btc on cryptorush are stuck there till the end of the beta fase.
I will look if i have some 30 euros (40$) spendable to put a small small buy wall up, but this only works properly if i have some support, so the people with some btc, ltc or cash left, please respond to this post and we will privatly plan something via pm's.

Cheers
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
September 08, 2014, 10:00:39 AM
well let see how much you want karma to succeed guys.

Please stop looking at the "team" to come up with new news every-time there is some price dipping. It doesn't work that way. Everyone needs to start cooperating and help karma.

Want karma to succeed?

Start building buy walls in litoshis. Dont go buy 50 ltcs worth of litoshi from 72-78. put that wall at 72 and let is sit there collecting more coins.
Help Spread the word. Make a post. tweet. giveaway. anything that would attract more people.
Start getting active and help the team out. how many time we have to keep repeating this.
Support our btc markets with small fees.
if you can code then you better put your codding effort to help karma.


I'm sorry. its time you all got involved. Almost everything has been done by less then 10 people now.

nothing wrong to talk about prices but that should not be the only thing you do.

I asked you all to look into superNET. I dont see this being ideal for karma but i could have missed a few things. There is also bitcharesX DAC services that we could join.

I guess what i mean is stop coming here and pressuring the few people who are trying to make karma stay relevant enough until some one like Kosmost gets us to mainstream crowd!

I think you all look too much to the team to do something then accept that you all should also get involved. I also believe that the majority here thinks that the LLC coins will be used to save karma. So most of you turn your backs when we need bounties to build stuff.

A lot more work could be done to karma is you come together and collect the bounties mutually. So far all the previous bounties were picked up by mostly Kosmost and the few other of us.

this has to change. We have made it public over a month ago that we need a proper working insightAPI and new KarmaAPI. After 6 months and watching people here brag they have multi billions coins, i cant find it in my hart to ask the same few people to collect roughly 3-5 btcs to get this done. Not to mention i can't even think of asking Kosmost for any of this.

In some way , i believe it is our fault . We allowed the idea that the team will do everything to sink in everyone brain. Our main fault was when we start using terms like "team" and "leaders" . As soon as we did this we kind of alienated each other from the regular members. This wasn't what we wanted . We wanted to be able to do everything with the involvement of the community we were the community. But as needs for stuff arose, the community lacked involvement. only a set of people kept getting involved and donating BTCs to Karma. That is how our group was formed.

Eventually we stop coming to the public to ask for help and just started picking up all the fees ourselves. Eventually we stop asking people here to help us spread the word and we did it all ourselves.

But we are no superheros. We're just like you. Probably own way less coins then you. We have the same real life problems. We all got families and real work that needs our time.  I know one of the team members i gave them 2 mill coins so they can have enough to join the LLC.

No more. Karma weight should not be on the shoulders of few people but on each and every single coin holder. i will not allow the team to pick up any more fees why you all sit there and reap the fruit of their hard labor. The team will focus on working with kosmost to get karma to ASIA. from now on every bounty fee will be open to public and you all have to come together to collect the funds for the bounties.

Remember kama price going down does not equal karma is dead. dont allow some recent weak hands cause panic.





I suggest that we use Karmafund.me for collecting bounties. I can set up individual pages there and everybody can easily see the amounts donated. The first bounty page will go online today for easts site. Who, let me know which bounties will be needed. I guess api fund will be first.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 08, 2014, 09:37:24 AM
How about Mintpal ?
IMO this is more important than C-Cex.com
You risk to lose both markets: LTC and BTC


Mintpal is not showing any sign to remove karma. We are one of the coins that give them the highest ltc volume trades. from 100 ltc 24 hrs up to 1200 ltcs.

the recent dipping might be something to worry as there is no more btcs volume. We used to get a  min volume 0.25 btcs a day up to 3-5 btcs.

This is why we have to worry about reaching out to people and get them to start using karma so we can build buy volume again.

People in this side of the cryptoworld only worry about price and mostly come here to learn the rumors so they can trade with them.

They get lost in the trading world and miss the point on what Karma is striving to achieve. they expect results every single day. Even bitcoin is extremely new and does not have a lot going on for it. Everything takes time.



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