Topic: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo - An Open, Composable Smart Chain Platform, Secured by B - page 115. (Read 1192053 times)

We were focused on our project until their little stunt blew up in both our faces. Since then we have been "focused" enough to accomplish a fork that KMD did not think we could manage. We've restarted our chain, and removed the notary node vulnerability. For now we function as a pure POW coin like 99.99% of the coins out there. Implementation of further features is common in forks and we fully intend to embrace dPoW but in our way. KMD wants new code? They just got some and they're going to see more. Is that enough "focus" for you?

Perhaps KMD could use some of this "focus" on their own coin instead of shitting on a tiny fork coin because they thought we weren't sufficiently bending the knee to our masters? How about some "focus" on what's important to their coin, not their overblown egos. We respect the KMD code or we wouldn't have undertaken this project. We believe it's the best there is or we wouldn't be here dealing with this bullshit.

There may be other vulnerabilities in our fork. We are not gods. Perhaps KMD would be kind enough to point them out to us instead of conspiring for new ways to exploit them?

gfigg42, anyway - currently i see only words, like "we planned dPOW in future", "we will do ... ", "we will send people to Mars" ... in future ... may be ... But on Git - i see only copy&pasted code and bunch of "fixes", hasty attempts to correct mistakes of SAFE devs misunderstandings basics.

And all blames and insults here - don't look good and reduce your credibility among community, at least because these insults against creators of 99.999999999% of SAFE sources. It's better to don't waste time here on "bad words" and focus on your project.

Look, I don't want to troll, but somehow discussions often end up like this, because there are two sides of the story.
Yes, I admit that our dev oversaw this vulnerability during the implementation but it was also not good behaviour to try to use this error to get greedy and fuck up the whole network instead of just informing the safe community that there might be vulnerabilities. I bet our dev would have given him much greater rewards than he was able to grab by himself.

I am done now, because I know I cannot convince anyone here and that is fine, but seeing the behaviour of the involved persons in the last few days (our community members and some of yours) I made my decision what is the more "ethical" way to go and which intensions were behind.
I wish your project all the best but if someone comes along and wants to build something new on your platform (in the spirit of open source) don't push them around as you did with us.

All these accounts trolling are newbie accounts. Only screams scam! Where you will be thankful and happy that a bug has been found, instead you are blaming for your own mistake. Do you also blame god for making you this way with some bugs in you? You copy-paste someone's code, you make mistake and blame others. Only means blind trolls.

The code isnt buggy, your devs didnt implement it correctly. 

DPoW is actually a service,  and you say that you are providing it but you are not.  That is fraud.   

 

Actually who gives a Sh.. about this dPoW stuff for a coin that is not even listed on any market? Maybe our dev thought it KMD is a well advanced tech and did not expect this to be buggy as fuck.
Thas was his mistake in the first please, but does not shed a good light to KMD as well.

They are frauds,  if they dont have notaries and are not notarizing yet claim to be using DPoW

So, how they scammed anyone? There was not even one offer to buy or sell coins.
Please inform yourself before making any accusations. Thanks.

Safecoin is a scam coin. Created only for pump and dump. What kind of delusional brain deaded people blame others for their own mistake. What kind of idiot copy and paste source code and release without checking? Safecoin says it's dPOW, where is the proof?

Just go away you mean ill-minded trolls.

1. Notaries were planned for a later stage, and yes the harmfulness of leaving those in the code, was overseen and your dev gladly used this error to snatch some coins - however he screwed that up and for the SAFE community it looked like a deliberate attack first (until clarification that is was meant to be 'only' a little coin grabbing activity)
2. SAFE is about 2 month old, how much new feastures do you expect in that short time frame from a small group of part-time devs? Please be realistic
3. There is a website (safecoin.org) , please check it out, there were two block explorers (before the fork) and overall the community was quite happy with the progress until your Dev fucked it all up during his lil' raid.

Thanks. Coming from someone not even bright enough to know Maidsafe and SAFEcoin are unrelated projects, it means a lot. Also Maidsafe is a dead coin.

Simple really. I have screen shots of their slack channel that prove it.

I am nobody, not Dev or even a simple C programmer, on technical issues I know very little but I do know this:

You gfigg42 have done a great job of making sure I never go any where near MaidSafe - Safecoin, thank you very much for the heads up.

Why do you so sure that was KMD dev team members mined your coin? Believe me, i wish your project only bright future and if you will implement in it something new and useful to the community, for example, new tech or another interest solution - it will be great. But, unfortunatelly, currently SAFE coin looks like scam. Why i think so? Let's look:

1. If it was serious long time project - devs never release this code with KMD notaries public keys inside. Have you heard anything about the stages of the software development life cycle? Before release every software should going through many checks, tests and this is months of hard work.
2. Unfortunatelly, we don't see any work here. SAFE coin devs just forked (i wish to call it "copy & paste", like in middle school) KMD sources, changed KMD strings on SAFE and tried to introduce it as new project. Do you think it's seriously? Will you deny that no one of devs has even tried to understand the essence of how this works? From side look like "devs" of SAFE don't tried to clarify for itselfs too much moments inside a code. Otherwise, they would have created their own notary.
3. Ok. Let's explain that SAFE is not one-day project, not scam ... what we have? Only copy & pasted sources and few screenshots in SAFE thread, which can be drawn in maximum per hour. Whitepaper? No. Official site - doesn't work. Explorer? Haven't.

What SAFE have you may asked? Only topic on this forum with a few screenshots, copy & pasted code, and ambitious statements and charges. Nothing more (currently).

p.s. About mining. Everybody could start safe coin daemon with one of notaries public key and mine SAFE. Also, everybody could start mining with all notaries_elected pubkeys. Why? For example, to show people this project is not serious, even if its developers do not understand how it works. Of course, if somebody mined SAFE with komodo's notaries pubkeys - he can't spent it without privkeys, but in order to show the incompetence of developers - this is enough.

I must say that the last few pages of ANN have been pretty entertaining to read. Now I know to stay clear from (un)SAFE coin. Thank you

correct. SAFE appears to be fully centralized and we will not be adding it to barterDEX.

So, SAFE coins aren't safe from random, non-consensus mutability; good to know that there's another coin out there I'll never use.

You mad bro?

Confirmed: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.33070111

SAFE is rolling back their blockchain due to the small amount of coins that were notary mined. Integrity of the 4 million premined must be preserved at all costs, cant have that diluted by a few percent! The losses to miners who were mining after their rollback point is about the same as the number of coins that were notary mined.

At least the SAFE is a bit safer with the new changes, though it seems very likely other issues are still there. please be nice to SAFE since they are such nice people and please dont take advantage of the attack vectors they left in the code. it would be so wrong to do that to these nice people.

Too bad they are stealing all the coins that were properly notary mined. Seems a bit strange they accuse so loud of stealing when they are the onces in fact stealing coins from properly mined coins. I guess what can be expected from a fully centralized coin with giant premine and lots of stealth mining.

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