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MGM
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What does this ask? I wopuld fund some of these 100%. What would the investors get back?

COOL coin Roll Eyes

Do you mean the dapp ideas? You could write below the idea in our Lisk forum and offer funding for the idea. Smiley

So we now have to pay to make the dapps ?

Why can't ICO funds be used for this ?

You have to be the fucking dumbest person on earth.


I guess you are going to have to call every person outside of crypto dumb because they probably don't have a clue what dapps are and how they are created and used.  
Since you sound so smart, maybe you can educate them.  


-tb-

I never said I was smarter than thou, or that I know any more about crypto than that tard.   And if you think knowing what dapps are and having common sense is the samething, maybe you're just as retarded?  I never attacked you but you seem to want to fight.

WOW... You must be a Trump voter   Shocked

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People of the Lisk community,

In the list you can see the crowdfunding for Lisk Dapp, The think that will determine the value of Lisk will be the adaption and the usage of the coin but thats obvious, im looking to start this crowdfunding platform so we can help dev's to push there Dapp through.

Although im not rich and cant fund this all myself and i dont wanna start a crowdfunding for a crowdfunding platform.

Thats why im going to try and manage 2 Delegates (and dont think i do that cause im greedy) its 100% to support the community.
And i hope the community can help this succeed by voting on those delegates and i was just wondering what all of your views
are on this?

Would you like the idea and help me with gathering votes reply on this and maybe we can even find better ideas on how to make this
work all togheter "dont forget its a community we need to form"!

Just let me know Wink.

Kind Regards
Nick
 

Sure I would like to know what we get out of it though. A prediction market like AUGUR would really kick ass at the moment because of all the hype about it. REP is now getting sold for 0.02. If we can create something around LISK too that would be immense. We already have the edge over ETHER so I think jump on to the prediction soon.

What I was wanting to know is if we crowd fund and launch these will they come with another coin that will be utilised with the DAPPS and the investors see some of these coins? Otherwise we are paying for something that will benefit us but also benefit others and we have no advantage to fund it..

I think to say what will be into it for the investors will be hard to say cause every Dapp can have its own functionality, if it something that helps the community but doesnt generate a profit we cant expect to get anything back except usage and increase in coin value. In those cases the amount gathered will be minimal but maybe enough for 1 developer to make its Dapp.

If its a decentralized prediction market like augur we can even do something like a 0,2% Fee like many exchanges does and let it be split over the investors from the project but then the crowdfunding platform will have much more responsibility. But all is possible im just aiming here to see if there is any interrest for it Wink.

Also i think this crowdfunding platform can be the start of developers working togheter with a small funds, think about Colony for Ethereum but then more community based.

Because beside the developers of the "core code" it would be nice to generate some funds for a team to work togheter on Lisk and with
Delegate proof of stake this is a great way to start this all.


I will post this also on the Forum later today Wink And this is just a concept idea and need to be completed and figured out into details

Great suggestions! I have added the option to issue a custom token as shares to the Delegate Profit Sharing Dapp concept at https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27 . Below is the decription of the Dapp for reference:

Summary:

The Lisk API has the ability for a delegate to see which accounts voted for him. This, along with the new Lisk forging rewards, opens up the possibility for delegates to do profit sharing with those who vote for him. What I have in mind is how I originally thought DPoS would operate with Bitshares and should have run with Crypti. I would like to offer to split the delegate earnings with the people who vote for my delegates based on how much they have in the Lisk accounts they vote from on a running basis and how much they dilute their votes by voting for other delegates. So this would be truly a PoS type system where stake holders receive a return on their holdings with a portion going to the delegates they choose to represent them. This will also incentivize people to hold Lisk since it can offer them a return.

Dapp Features:

  • List votes received from accounts with current account balances or %approval rating, fraction of total votes made by account.
  • auto distribution of percentage of forging rewards at set blockcount interval to accounts voting for delegate based on portion of total approval rating received fromindividual accounts and fraction of total votes made by that account.
  • ability to set percentage paid to votors.
  • option to dynamically adjust rate based on revenue and Lisk/BTC price, i.e. percentage of portion retained by delegate is cut in half when earnings quadruple, able to set parameters "half" and "quadruple" with user selected amounts.
  • option to whitelist other delegates owned by operator to exclude from vote dilution penalty in distribution calculation in item 2 above.
  • generate ledger of accounts of voters with vote histories at block cycle intervals
  • distribute a custom token according to ledger as an alternative to distribution of Lisk
  • set the distribution of the custom token according to a formula with parameters like time of vote, dilution of vote, and amount of vote.

With these added features, Lisk stakeholders can gain a stake in dapps funded with delegate earnings.
legendary
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@MalReynolds i have read now your reply about NXT, you right man, my apologize.

Apology accepted, no problems.  Thank you, Videodrome, you are a gentleman.
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this useless azure hype is getting out of hand.
and what exaclty is stopping MS (a major software developer) to come up with their own coin/system instead of picking some open source newbie coin?


I was also thinking about this for a while, but I think mayor companies (Microsoft, Google, Amazon) don't want open sourced decentralised crypto projects because they can go lead a life of it's own, they can't be regulated. And potentially damage the brand name.

I think the big guys see the winds of change shifting direction.  If they don't jump on the bandwagon now, then they will become IBM in the age of Micro Computers.

Blockchain will kill major companies that are blinded by their own bureaucracy and inability to be flexible

If MS is smart, they are changing their mind and betting on opensource blockchain

just my opinion

yes, I agree with all that, but, my question is - what is stopping MS from making their own decentralized coin with needed features? They have more than enough resources for all this themselves internally

I don't agree. Microsoft and other bigs don't need technology (they can create a new coin in 1 or less day ) They need community, people involved and also innovation and new ideas .A shared(github oriented) innovation project like lisk or iota are the perfect partner for Microsoft.Azure is like a big mama.A very big mama.Microsoft is one of the biggest company on earth. Is enough? Grin Grin





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this useless azure hype is getting out of hand.
and what exaclty is stopping MS (a major software developer) to come up with their own coin/system instead of picking some open source newbie coin?


I was also thinking about this for a while, but I think mayor companies (Microsoft, Google, Amazon) don't want open sourced decentralised crypto projects because they can go lead a life of it's own, they can't be regulated. And potentially damage the brand name.

I think the big guys see the winds of change shifting direction.  If they don't jump on the bandwagon now, then they will become IBM in the age of Micro Computers.

Blockchain will kill major companies that are blinded by their own bureaucracy and inability to be flexible

If MS is smart, they are changing their mind and betting on opensource blockchain

just my opinion

yes, I agree with all that, but, my question is - what is stopping MS from making their own decentralized coin with needed features? They have more than enough resources for all this themselves internally

Of course nothing is stopping them but why spend money on design and development of a perfect system when there are so many people willing to work for free.  Throw them all into a pool and see who comes out at the top and then start profiting off of someone elses hard work.

I feel at least now when the economy is starting to fail that this option is much financially sound than throwing a bunch of money at a project that has a high chance at failure.
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Well, at least we are mentioned by Coindesk. That's something )

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-5-blockchain-partners-azure/

Beat me to it. I was just about to post the news that LISK has appeared on coindesks azure news story. Well done LISK.

Yes Guys I made a post about This on my twitter as well because of the great news!

https://twitter.com/CryptoTradeADay/status/709785040801173504

If you would please like and favorite it for me, and please give me a follow as well, Thanks!!
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this useless azure hype is getting out of hand.
and what exaclty is stopping MS (a major software developer) to come up with their own coin/system instead of picking some open source newbie coin?


I was also thinking about this for a while, but I think mayor companies (Microsoft, Google, Amazon) don't want open sourced decentralised crypto projects because they can go lead a life of it's own, they can't be regulated. And potentially damage the brand name.

I think the big guys see the winds of change shifting direction.  If they don't jump on the bandwagon now, then they will become IBM in the age of Micro Computers.

Blockchain will kill major companies that are blinded by their own bureaucracy and inability to be flexible

If MS is smart, they are changing their mind and betting on opensource blockchain

just my opinion

yes, I agree with all that, but, my question is - what is stopping MS from making their own decentralized coin with needed features? They have more than enough resources for all this themselves internally
legendary
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Well, at least we are mentioned by Coindesk. That's something )

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-5-blockchain-partners-azure/

Beat me to it. I was just about to post the news that LISK has appeared on coindesks azure news story. Well done LISK.
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lol my estiimates have dropped from 21k down to 16k.. I wonder where it will end. I hope I can keep 10k a nice round number Smiley
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i'm reading now the Microsoft news...

Congrats!

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-update-6/

@MalReynolds

i have read now your reply about NXT, you right man, my apologize.
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Hello,

First of all. The project looks great and all the best.

I had a query regarding the pre-sale agreement. (Not sure if it has been already answered).

In the https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf document I found the following clause.

Quote
2.1 Purchase. You agree to purchase and we agree to sell, on the terms set forth
herein, your Resulting Distribution. Your purchase paid with BTC is final. We will not
provide any BTC refund of the purchase price under any circumstances. Purchases
with XCR can be refunded until the 1st May 2016
. Only the exact amount of XCR used
to purchase LISK can be refunded.

Does this mean, people who purchased with XCR can get a refund even after the launch of tokens ? That would rather be unfair I thought.
legendary
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Agree! This is why I would suggest to create a bounty pool for interested developers. If a dev has a good idea then he may apply for a bounty.

Without any real world applications, I don't think Lisk will surpass Ethereum. We need a good idea of how a Javascript application can be useful as a DApp.

Is there any specific documentation on traditional apps vs DApps?

Yes of course, lisk can't even surpass ethereum but (maybe) can create something similar.


However the people are investing because they want to double (or x3) their investment, most of them don't care about the 'technology' behind it.

if we hype further some will sell for 50% as well...
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I understand the value and importance of a decentralised blockchain. But the most important blockchain > Bitcoin is becoming more and more centralised.

I could assume a centralised GoogleChain with it's own mega servers can do IOT/dapps jobs. The masses would be fine with that I think.

I could be wrong ofcourse...

Well Microsoft is investing in the right coins then!!! Tongue
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Bitcoin Trader
https://twitter.com/CryptoCurrEncyX/status/709713512680058880

see it the better I think Lisk will look great after launch, cheers
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I already invested in this but plannig to invest quite a bit more once funds are cleared up. It's going to be close to the 21st. If I miss this, I assume there is no grace period to jump in?  Grin

I should be fine!!
legendary
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I understand the value and importance of a decentralised blockchain. But the most important blockchain > Bitcoin is becoming more and more centralised.

I could assume a centralised GoogleChain with it's own mega servers can do IOT/dapps jobs. The masses would be fine with that I think.

I could be wrong ofcourse...
sr. member
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Congrats everyone, I am very happy that Lisk is going to work together with the Azure project.

Since the day I saw this topic I knew I had to invest in it, so I am lucky I believed in this since day 1 Tongue
This is already the last week and people who buy in now don't get any bonus anymore.
It will be interesting for me to see how much people will buy in the last week.

Also Indeed the next step is getting mainstream adoption , I already tried my friends but it's hard Cheesy
legendary
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this useless azure hype is getting out of hand.

You think so?

MILESTONE ALERT: THE LISK ICO HAS SWITCHED FROM ROCKET TO WARP DRIVE

300+ BTC DONATED LAST 14 HOURS

180+ BTC DONATED LAST 04 HOURS

LISK ICO HAS 134 HOURS TO GO






 Roll Eyes Gee I wonder where all that BTC came from?? lol...*cough ETH DUMPS cough* - Of course you'll see a spike with freshly made btc incoming from a "connected" coin.  It's not everyday traders going in it's whales to manipulate LISK the same way they did/do ETH.  

Don't get me wrong, I really like what MS and Azure and all that other tech stuff is promising, it's just all talk re. implementation with these crypto coins, there is nothing even substantially concrete yet to justify this much btc into it yet.  If you argue this point you're either dumb or just a blind follower.  But hey good for you if you rode the backs of the real whales pumping ETH (and possibly LISK).

Canabanana makes a decent point in general though yes.
hero member
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this useless azure hype is getting out of hand.
and what exaclty is stopping MS (a major software developer) to come up with their own coin/system instead of picking some open source newbie coin?


I was also thinking about this for a while, but I think mayor companies (Microsoft, Google, Amazon) don't want open sourced decentralised crypto projects because they can go lead a life of it's own, they can't be regulated. And potentially damage the brand name.

I think the big guys see the winds of change shifting direction.  If they don't jump on the bandwagon now, then they will become IBM in the age of Micro Computers.

Blockchain will kill major companies that are blinded by their own bureaucracy and inability to be flexible

If MS is smart, they are changing their mind and betting on opensource blockchain

just my opinion
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