Is it just me or lisk HQ "sold" the lisk to the Chinese, juts for a higher value of lisk....
In the last two weks, the Chinese community started an assault on the delegate positions, spawning delegate after delegate, delegates that have never been seen before. They have no testnet delegate, nothing. They just have 50k lisk, the limit to enter the "Elite" group, which seems to be more of an army of sockpuppets, not even separate individuals, all happening under the direct orders of Luiz(the Chinese Lisk Ambassador, or at least this is how it looks).
Everybody in Elite is forced to share 25% of forged lisk which is supposed to be distributed to their voters. But if we look on their distribution list of forged lisks, we'll see that in fact they pay themselves.
Also, lisk team, isabella and Joel even went on supporting that action by not taking a position, even somehow endorsing Elite actions, while not long ago, lisk hq was not missing a single moment to say something bad or to denigrate GDT, the same group that spans 20+ countries and supported lisk from the very begging, while the Chinese community was absent.
GDT gave the snapshot option, the recovery script, the long list of alternative wallets that you are using when lisk official node is ddosed,are provided and supported by GDT, not elite. Elite is the group of whales and are organizing a lottery giving away 1k lisk?
With elite taking over delegate places, the forks started to appear again, because most probably the Chinese are forging with two accounts on the same server.
If you vote for elite you should start thinking about what you want? You want delegates that know lisk by heart and they are supporting it for more than a year(servers, donations and so on) or you want a few lisks more in your wallet for now, but never caring about the long run?
Thanks for the concerns. You've provided many valid points, here are some facts to create a more structured opinion:
Is it just me or lisk HQ "sold" the lisk to the Chinese, juts for a higher value of lisk?
LiskHQ has abstained completely from the politics behind the choosing of delegates. What does this mean? We're not endorsing nor rejecting anything that's currently happening within the delegate positions. We are aware of the existence of voting groups (ARK, GDT, ELITE) and that's about it.
In the last two weks, the Chinese community started an assault on the delegate positions, spawning delegate after delegate, delegates that have never been seen before. They have no testnet delegate, nothing. They just have 50k lisk, the limit to enter the "Elite" group, which seems to be more of an army of sockpuppets, not even separate individuals, all happening under the direct orders of Luiz(the Chinese Lisk Ambassador, or at least this is how it looks).
You're correct that there is another group battling for positions on the 101 delegates. In my opinion, their tactics are aimed towards guaranteeing them delegate positions. The DPoS algorithm used for the Lisk network is prone to these simple tactics, harnessing the financial aspect of being a delegate and using it to their advantage. Our focus is not "who's a delegate", we've changed gears and are focusing all of our efforts towards development of the network and community growth. Here's a discussion on changing DPoS so it's a bit harder for such groups to take a hold of the network:
Solutions to improve Lisk DPoS #353 Also, lisk team, isabella and Joel even went on supporting that action by not taking a position, even somehow endorsing Elite actions, while not long ago, lisk hq was not missing a single moment to say something bad or to denigrate GDT, the same group that spans 20+ countries and supported lisk from the very begging, while the Chinese community was absent.
Like I said above, we're no longer supporting nor rejecting delegates and what they wish to do for the Lisk platform. I can guarantee you, we're not endorsing anyone (i.e. we're not taking any sides, it's a decentralized network!). It is correct to say that not so long ago I personally tried to guide GDT into a "supporting" role towards the Lisk network by stating delegates should be pro-active and use forging rewards for the benefit of the Lisk Ecosystem. This did not bode well with GDT and the delegates, and many rebelled or simply didn't want to do this. I learned my lesson that time, and decided to move on from trying to social engineer delegates behavior to focusing on growing the Lisk community and forming key relationships.
GDT gave the snapshot option, the recovery script, the long list of alternative wallets that you are using when lisk official node is ddosed,are provided and supported by GDT, not elite. Elite is the group of whales and are organizing a lottery giving away 1k lisk?
There are members from the GDT group who are exceptional and have stayed loyal to Lisk throughout all this time. We highlight those members and many times reward them. But we don't associate them with GDT as a whole (even though they are in the group). Here's two blog posts which rewards those loyal members:
For The Lisk Community, Thank You. Community Engagement Rewarded! Hopefully this quick reply sheds more information on our stance.
Thanks for reading!
Can't belive the price is going down even so that wall is there.
