No progress + No communication + Absurd ICO + No work = Big time scam
steady progress + good community + second most successful ICO + work smart = long term success
Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 437. (Read 3074310 times)
February 21, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
No progress + No communication + Absurd ICO + No work = Big time scam
steady progress + good community + second most successful ICO + work smart = long term success
February 21, 2017, 01:08:08 PM
No progress + No communication + Absurd ICO + No work = Big time scam
February 21, 2017, 12:58:47 PM
Hey Liskers
Transparency Report - January 2017
As of the 21st February 2017 at 6:30pm CET, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:
- 572,377.69 CHF
- 517,653.10 EUR
- 10,943.958646 BTC
- 4,407,448.78 LSK
- 19,863,230,659,049 bytes
Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:
- 3,926,049.87211678 LSK (Bounties)
- 771,745.97898046 LSK (Advisers)
Expenditures
In January 2017 the Lisk Foundation spent approximately 241,172.4 CHF for all operations, including pre-payments and future allocations. Below you can find an approximate breakdown of this years expenses.
Marketing & PR: 7,035 CHF
Infrastructure: ~2,500 CHF
Legal: 15,023.40 CHF
Conferences & Travels: ~3,000 CHF
Furthermore, a pre-payment of around 200,000 EUR (213.610 CHF) was conducted with one of the Lisk Foundation's main contractors which handles development, marketing and community support. This pre-payment is not for January only, after the first quarter the real costs can be better estimated.
Not included are: Taxes, exchange fees, smaller expenses throughout the year and dust.
The transparency report for February will be published in the beginning of April. This lag is necessary to give more accurate, polished and in-depth data.
Source: Lisk Forum
Haha
, comes at the right time.Because a lot of people are talking about the reports.
Thanks
February 21, 2017, 12:48:27 PM
Hey Liskers
Transparency Report - January 2017
As of the 21st February 2017 at 6:30pm CET, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:
- 572,377.69 CHF
- 517,653.10 EUR
- 10,943.958646 BTC
- 4,407,448.78 LSK
- 19,863,230,659,049 bytes
Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:
- 3,926,049.87211678 LSK (Bounties)
- 771,745.97898046 LSK (Advisers)
Expenditures
In January 2017 the Lisk Foundation spent approximately 241,172.4 CHF for all operations, including pre-payments and future allocations. Below you can find an approximate breakdown of this years expenses.
Marketing & PR: 7,035 CHF
Infrastructure: ~2,500 CHF
Legal: 15,023.40 CHF
Conferences & Travels: ~3,000 CHF
Furthermore, a pre-payment of around 200,000 EUR (213.610 CHF) was conducted to the lightcurve GmbH which handles development, marketing and community support. This pre-payment is not for January only, after the first quarter the real costs can be better estimated.
Not included are: Taxes, exchange fees, smaller expenses throughout the year and dust.
The transparency report for February will be published in the beginning of April. This lag is necessary to give more accurate, polished and in-depth data.
Source: Lisk Forum
February 21, 2017, 12:47:45 PM
Mainnet will be updated tomorrow!
Quote from: Isabella @ Lisk.Chat #announcements
Tomorrow around 11am CET we will release 0.6.0 to main network. As a preparatory step, please ensure your nodes have had their minVersion parameter updated. To make the update easy, you can use the following command to do it, please note this will install JQuery on your system which requires sudo privileges. If you have already done it you can disregard these steps.
Code:
cd lisk-main
sudo apt-get install -y jq
mv config.json config.json_old
cat config.json_old | jq '.minVersion = ">=0.5.0"' >> config.json
bash lisk.sh reload
February 21, 2017, 12:42:59 PM
Max must do better to communicate what gets done every week. weekly reports. honestly, i hope this project picks up not only momentum and devs, but real marketing and branding. hodl my breath.
But, on the other hand, the Lisk team has been very committed to providing continuous news about the work.
Of course, you can always improve some things. And sometimes the communication can be better.
Please check this sections. There you find so many weekly summaries, updates, news also regularly published.
Weekly Summaries: https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=44
Development Updates: https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=46
Community Meetings: https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=45
February 21, 2017, 12:39:49 PM
From the document above it shows ~ 10,900BTC on hand ...
Looks like 499 was sent to this address, just today
https://blockchain.info/address/3LVHLnfqy6i4igAM1ngL77KKEVLWgTx8zJ
They will liquidate till 10000 btc left. And will run with it next1/2 yrs. Now is good time to liquidate.
February 21, 2017, 12:37:27 PM
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1425&p=10523#p10523
Transparency Report - January 2017
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:33 am
As of the 21st February 2017 at 6:30pm CET, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:
- 572,377.69 CHF
- 517,653.10 EUR
- 10,943.958646 BTC
- 4,407,448.78 LSK
- 19,863,230,659,049 bytes
Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:
- 3,926,049.87211678 LSK (Bounties)
- 771,745.97898046 LSK (Advisers)
Expenditures
In January 2017 the Lisk Foundation spent approximately 241,172.4 CHF for all operations, including pre-payments and future allocations. Below you can find an approximate breakdown of this years expenses.
Marketing & PR: 7,035 CHF
Infrastructure: ~2,500 CHF
Legal: 15,023.40 CHF
Conferences & Travels: ~3,000 CHF
Furthermore, a pre-payment of around 200,000 EUR (213.610 CHF) was conducted with one of the Lisk Foundation's main contractors which handles development, marketing and community support. This pre-payment is not for January only, after the first quarter the real costs can be better estimated.
Not included are: Taxes, exchange fees, smaller expenses throughout the year and dust.
The transparency report for February will be published in the beginning of April. This lag is necessary to give more accurate, polished and in-depth data.
Transparency Report - January 2017
Report this postQuote
Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:33 am
As of the 21st February 2017 at 6:30pm CET, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:
- 572,377.69 CHF
- 517,653.10 EUR
- 10,943.958646 BTC
- 4,407,448.78 LSK
- 19,863,230,659,049 bytes
Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:
- 3,926,049.87211678 LSK (Bounties)
- 771,745.97898046 LSK (Advisers)
Expenditures
In January 2017 the Lisk Foundation spent approximately 241,172.4 CHF for all operations, including pre-payments and future allocations. Below you can find an approximate breakdown of this years expenses.
Marketing & PR: 7,035 CHF
Infrastructure: ~2,500 CHF
Legal: 15,023.40 CHF
Conferences & Travels: ~3,000 CHF
Furthermore, a pre-payment of around 200,000 EUR (213.610 CHF) was conducted with one of the Lisk Foundation's main contractors which handles development, marketing and community support. This pre-payment is not for January only, after the first quarter the real costs can be better estimated.
Not included are: Taxes, exchange fees, smaller expenses throughout the year and dust.
The transparency report for February will be published in the beginning of April. This lag is necessary to give more accurate, polished and in-depth data.
February 21, 2017, 12:25:47 PM
From the document above it shows ~ 10,900BTC on hand ...
Looks like 499 was sent to this address, just today
https://blockchain.info/address/3LVHLnfqy6i4igAM1ngL77KKEVLWgTx8zJ
They will liquidate till 10000 btc left. And will run with it next1/2 yrs. Now is good time to liquidate.
February 21, 2017, 12:24:48 PM
Max will not give any reward back to the Lisk community.
This is definitely not true!
Distribution of Testnet Bounties: https://blog.lisk.io/distribution-of-testnet-bounties-e2c0973879f9#.hl5licgkg
Proposal Contest & Delegate Campaign: https://blog.lisk.io/community-delegate-contest-prepare-yourself-4f2da59ff507#.z0zh5p4en
For The Lisk Community, Thank You.: https://blog.lisk.io/for-the-lisk-community-thank-you-ee9870ba5bab#.8369l5nlz
And I know some other people have gotten a thank you for their work last year.
Yes, I meant byteball reward as the poster had suggested.
I see some reward in Lisk has been given back to the community but it's very little in comparison to the time and money the community members have spent helping Lisk.
The main problem with Lisk is Max Kordek, secondary to that is that Lisk doesnt work. Even after 1 year of development it still doesnt work.
I can see some people have been rewarded. I am suggesting ALL lisk holders, similar to waves members receiving WCT and WBTC for holding waves in there lite wallet. I hope Max does really do something with the Byteball LSK was rewarded with. 2 rounds now. It seems like lots is getting "worked" on but nothing is being done properly. Its crazy to me they have to re-think how the SDK will actually work (stability and security) after it has been a year and knowing JS is the way it is in general. what has been going on for a year? Max must do better to communicate what gets done every week. weekly reports. honestly, i hope this project picks up not only momentum and devs, but real marketing and branding. hodl my breath.
February 21, 2017, 12:23:07 PM
Do we have a proper document where all the expenses of these 14000 BITCOINS are collected so far?
It is the least we should have.
It is the least we should have.
There is the last Financial Report 2016. https://blog.lisk.io/financial-report-2016-7e68cdd13b12#.phuuhr8m6
And at the last community meeting:
-Lisk (Max):
The plan is to release the transparency report once a month. We have the report of January being released next week.
From the document above it shows ~ 10,900BTC on hand ...
Looks like 499 was sent to this address, just today
https://blockchain.info/address/3LVHLnfqy6i4igAM1ngL77KKEVLWgTx8zJ
February 21, 2017, 12:16:42 PM
Max will not give any reward back to the Lisk community.
This is definitely not true!
Distribution of Testnet Bounties: https://blog.lisk.io/distribution-of-testnet-bounties-e2c0973879f9#.hl5licgkg
Proposal Contest & Delegate Campaign: https://blog.lisk.io/community-delegate-contest-prepare-yourself-4f2da59ff507#.z0zh5p4en
For The Lisk Community, Thank You.: https://blog.lisk.io/for-the-lisk-community-thank-you-ee9870ba5bab#.8369l5nlz
And I know some other people have gotten a thank you for their work last year.
Yes, I meant byteball reward as the poster had suggested.
I see some reward in Lisk has been given back to the community but it's very little in comparison to the time and money the community members have spent helping Lisk.
So Is this not a good statement in your opinion?
Warren:
What will happen to the ByteBalls that you have and will receive?
Lisk (Max):
We have something very positive that we are going to do for the Lisk holders but, as of now, we cannot say exactly what we will do. We are awaiting advise from our lawyers.
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1420
So you are thinking that Max will distribute his byteballs to all lisk holders?
He also said he would have a whitepaper finished about 8 months ago. still waiting...
Hey, I'm not Max. And I'm not one of his lawyers.
But yes. If he says that then I believe that.
A question about the whitepaper during the last community meeting:
Forrest:
Can we still expect the whitepaper by Q1 2017? Also do you plan to put the whitepaper on github and update when necessary?
Lisk (Max):
My current understanding on whitepaper is that, within this blockchain community, it is used as a marketing tool for upcoming ICO's. We still can, and may, create one but the question will then be if we would like to write a normal whitepaper or a more sophisticated (Ex: Bitcoin, Ethereum) one. It all depends if we find the time to do this or somehow think its worth taking a developers time away from development and steering it towards creating a Lisk whitepaper.
February 21, 2017, 12:07:18 PM
Do we have a proper document where all the expenses of these 14000 BITCOINS are collected so far?
It is the least we should have.
It is the least we should have.
There is the last Financial Report 2016. https://blog.lisk.io/financial-report-2016-7e68cdd13b12#.phuuhr8m6
And at the last community meeting:
-Lisk (Max):
The plan is to release the transparency report once a month. We have the report of January being released next week.
February 21, 2017, 12:06:21 PM
Max will not give any reward back to the Lisk community.
This is definitely not true!
Distribution of Testnet Bounties: https://blog.lisk.io/distribution-of-testnet-bounties-e2c0973879f9#.hl5licgkg
Proposal Contest & Delegate Campaign: https://blog.lisk.io/community-delegate-contest-prepare-yourself-4f2da59ff507#.z0zh5p4en
For The Lisk Community, Thank You.: https://blog.lisk.io/for-the-lisk-community-thank-you-ee9870ba5bab#.8369l5nlz
And I know some other people have gotten a thank you for their work last year.
Yes, I meant byteball reward as the poster had suggested.
I see some reward in Lisk has been given back to the community but it's very little in comparison to the time and money the community members have spent helping Lisk.
So Is this not a good statement in your opinion?
Warren:
What will happen to the ByteBalls that you have and will receive?
Lisk (Max):
We have something very positive that we are going to do for the Lisk holders but, as of now, we cannot say exactly what we will do. We are awaiting advise from our lawyers.
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1420
So you are thinking that Max will distribute his byteballs to all lisk holders?
He also said he would have a whitepaper finished about 8 months ago. still waiting...
February 21, 2017, 12:00:38 PM
Do we have a proper document where all the expenses of these 14000 BITCOINS are collected so far?
It is the least we should have.
It is the least we should have.
https://twitter.com/LiskHQ/status/828912477895262209 Stay tuned. LOL
February 21, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
Max will not give any reward back to the Lisk community.
This is definitely not true!
Distribution of Testnet Bounties: https://blog.lisk.io/distribution-of-testnet-bounties-e2c0973879f9#.hl5licgkg
Proposal Contest & Delegate Campaign: https://blog.lisk.io/community-delegate-contest-prepare-yourself-4f2da59ff507#.z0zh5p4en
For The Lisk Community, Thank You.: https://blog.lisk.io/for-the-lisk-community-thank-you-ee9870ba5bab#.8369l5nlz
And I know some other people have gotten a thank you for their work last year.
Yes, I meant byteball reward as the poster had suggested.
I see some reward in Lisk has been given back to the community but it's very little in comparison to the time and money the community members have spent helping Lisk.
So Is this not a good statement in your opinion?
Warren:
What will happen to the ByteBalls that you have and will receive?
Lisk (Max):
We have something very positive that we are going to do for the Lisk holders but, as of now, we cannot say exactly what we will do. We are awaiting advise from our lawyers.
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1420
February 21, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Max will not give any reward back to the Lisk community.
This is definitely not true!
Distribution of Testnet Bounties: https://blog.lisk.io/distribution-of-testnet-bounties-e2c0973879f9#.hl5licgkg
Proposal Contest & Delegate Campaign: https://blog.lisk.io/community-delegate-contest-prepare-yourself-4f2da59ff507#.z0zh5p4en
For The Lisk Community, Thank You.: https://blog.lisk.io/for-the-lisk-community-thank-you-ee9870ba5bab#.8369l5nlz
And I know some other people have gotten a thank you for their work last year.
Yes, I meant byteball reward as the poster had suggested.
I see some reward in Lisk has been given back to the community but it's very little in comparison to the time and money the community members have spent helping Lisk.
The main problem with Lisk is Max Kordek, secondary to that is that Lisk doesnt work. Even after 1 year of development it still doesnt work.
February 21, 2017, 11:52:36 AM
Do we have a proper document where all the expenses of these 14000 BITCOINS are collected so far?
It is the least we should have.
It is the least we should have.
February 21, 2017, 11:45:15 AM
Max will not give any reward back to the Lisk community.
This is definitely not true!
Distribution of Testnet Bounties: https://blog.lisk.io/distribution-of-testnet-bounties-e2c0973879f9#.hl5licgkg
Proposal Contest & Delegate Campaign: https://blog.lisk.io/community-delegate-contest-prepare-yourself-4f2da59ff507#.z0zh5p4en
For The Lisk Community, Thank You.: https://blog.lisk.io/for-the-lisk-community-thank-you-ee9870ba5bab#.8369l5nlz
And I know some other people have gotten a thank you for their work last year.
February 21, 2017, 11:44:46 AM
Dev team needs to answer
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