[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 454.

s0nix

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Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 05:39:37 PM

Okay, got me there. 100 million. Roll Eyes

So I must ask.... What were they supposed to sell in the ICO then?
...and what coins are you buying... zcrash?

I think this is not quite clear.
At a Ninja PoW Coin, there are no or few premined coins. Normaly all coins are mined from the beginning (PoW) and then the PoS phase follows.

At Lisk they have 100 million coins. 85 million LSK are sold to the ICO participants, rest for bountys, earlay supporters and 8 million LSK for the Lisk core team (Max and Oliver).

This is called premined.

nyanhtet

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Bawga

Quote from: Poly#Crypto on February 14, 2017, 03:48:46 PM

Hey Liskers,
the transcript of the community meeting has just been published. Many thanks to Jan.

Community Meeting (Transcript) - February 11th, 2017

Lisk Forum: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=45&p=10480#p10480

@ALL . It is worth to read I thought !!!

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Okay, got me there. 100 million. Roll Eyes

So I must ask.... What were they supposed to sell in the ICO then?
...and what coins are you buying... zcrash?

Poly#Crypto

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Lisk's Ad Blitz!

Hey Liskers,

the fund for the banner campaign on CoinMarketCap is increasing.
This is a great opportunity. If you like the idea, please donate some LSK. Even small amounts are absolutely okay.

Donators so far:

BitBanksy: 350 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/10168788682760021032) Approx 10,000 impressions
MrV: 350 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/5568890424752025973) Approx 10,000 impressions
Poly#Crypto: 350 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/6420820396959752556) Approx 10,000 impressions
Anonymous: 3 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/12495701383646437417) Approx 90 impressions
mybappsfund (techbytes): 400 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/10537823639907520503) Approx 12,000 impressions
CommunityPool: 10 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/10697474540354868024) Approx 300 impressions
Shinekami_Voting: 50 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/15687269037627431285) Approx 1500 impressions
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Gordo: 500 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/5066682254896919290) Approx 15,000 impressions
Odsejen: 200 LSK (https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/6711462413341630340) Approx 6000 impressions

Lisk Forum: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1417

Block_303

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Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 03:53:27 PM

It's simple... No Lisk were ever "pre-mined or pre-forged". Forging began AFTER genesis were unvoted, and delegates were in place.

Every ICO Coin is premined.
And every team of an ICO Coins gives themselves a share of the premined coins.
Nobody talked about preforged.

Wink

endfield

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Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 04:20:59 PM

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Hahaha just because you call it that doesn't make it correct.

Write then more correctly.

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...and abuse would be NOT voting for those delegates who contribute, and use it to vote for only themselves and pools instead.
You have very strange morals.

You have a strange notions of a decentralized network.

No, you're right.

But I would not say that's unfair. Because the conditions were fixed before the ICO.

gnargnar

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crypto-enthusiast since 2012

hahaha

I knew it would be entertaining soon.
Delicious!

selflover

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Quote

Hahaha just because you call it that doesn't make it correct.

Write then more correctly.

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...and abuse would be NOT voting for those delegates who contribute, and use it to vote for only themselves and pools instead.
You have very strange morals.

You have a strange notions of a decentralized network.

endfield

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Selflover is right.
Lisk has exactly pre-mined 100 M LSK.

Of this, 4 million went to Max and 4 million to Oliver.
And even after the start of the forging, Max and Oliver have voted for some delegates.

Thegodzilla

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Quote from: nyanhtet on February 14, 2017, 04:16:40 PM

Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 04:08:48 PM

Hahaha just because you call it that doesn't make it correct.

How should we name these generated 100 Million Lisk if not call as premine?

But it has been distributed. But yes it's a premine

nyanhtet

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Bawga

Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 04:08:48 PM

Hahaha just because you call it that doesn't make it correct.

How should we name these generated 100 Million Lisk if not call as premine?

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 04:02:29 PM

Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 03:46:30 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:49:06 PM

Quote from: gembitz on February 14, 2017, 02:35:37 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:10:24 PM

Max&Oliver removed most of their votes?

Excellent! Time to return and reBay. Going back in lisk. Wink

^lol what votes to their own sockpuppets? lmfao :-D

haha read my last comment
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17042229
I have sold all my lisks when lisk devs used premine.

Please stop spreading ~~misinformation~~ Lies.
Payment for forging of blocks began the day we reached the predetermined block, and genesis nodes were un-voted prior to that.
No Lisk were ever pre-mined, or pre-forged.

(3,9M lsk Adviser Lisk fund, 3,7M lsk Max, 4M lsk Oliver) I call it "premine". These funds abused for voting delegates.

Hahaha just because you call it that doesn't make it correct.
...and abuse would be NOT voting for those delegates who contribute, and use it to vote for only themselves and pools instead.
You have very strange morals.

selflover

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Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 03:46:30 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:49:06 PM

Quote from: gembitz on February 14, 2017, 02:35:37 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:10:24 PM

Max&Oliver removed most of their votes?

Excellent! Time to return and reBay. Going back in lisk. Wink

^lol what votes to their own sockpuppets? lmfao :-D

haha read my last comment
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17042229
I have sold all my lisks when lisk devs used premine.

Please stop spreading ~~misinformation~~ Lies.
Payment for forging of blocks began the day we reached the predetermined block, and genesis nodes were un-voted prior to that.
No Lisk were ever pre-mined, or pre-forged.

(3,9M lsk Adviser Lisk fund, 3,7M lsk Max, 4M lsk Oliver) I call it "premine". These funds abused for voting delegates.

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Quote from: nyanhtet on February 14, 2017, 03:53:41 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 03:39:34 PM

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Means Lisk has changed hands to others ??

During the start forging was used Lisks which belonged Max, Oliver and adviser Lisk fund for voting delegates. It was not fair. Now there is no abuse and the Lisk network is more decentralized. I decided to return in Lisk and make a reBuy Lisk soon. Cheesy

This is your misunderstanding. First Lisk blockchain is run by genesis delegates. When community forging start ( or starting decentralized), genesis delegates is replaced by community delegates one by one by using these premine fund to network stable. After that remove vote from delegates and decentralized.

No, as I said, Forging began AFTER delegates were in the 101. Genesis nodes were never forging, they only collected tx fees before the predetermined block.

nyanhtet

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Bawga

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 03:39:34 PM

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Means Lisk has changed hands to others ??

During the start forging was used Lisks which belonged Max, Oliver and adviser Lisk fund for voting delegates. It was not fair. Now there is no abuse and the Lisk network is more decentralized. I decided to return in Lisk and make a reBuy Lisk soon. Cheesy

This is your misunderstanding. First Lisk blockchain is run by genesis delegates. When community forging start ( or starting decentralized), genesis delegates is replaced by community delegates one by one by using these premine fund to network stable. After that remove vote from delegates and decentralized.

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Quote from: Ris88 on February 14, 2017, 03:51:04 PM

Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 03:46:30 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:49:06 PM

Quote from: gembitz on February 14, 2017, 02:35:37 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:10:24 PM

Max&Oliver removed most of their votes?

Excellent! Time to return and reBay. Going back in lisk. Wink

^lol what votes to their own sockpuppets? lmfao :-D

haha read my last comment
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17042229
I have sold all my lisks when lisk devs used premine.

Please stop spreading ~~misinformation~~ Lies.
Payment for forging of blocks began the day we reached the predetermined block, and genesis nodes were un-voted prior to that.
No Lisk were ever pre-mined, or pre-forged.

So what is right with the information you have sir .. ??

What are you asking?
It's simple... No Lisk were ever "pre-mined or pre-forged". Forging began AFTER genesis were unvoted, and delegates were in place.

Ris88

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Quote from: MrPresident on February 14, 2017, 03:46:30 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:49:06 PM

Quote from: gembitz on February 14, 2017, 02:35:37 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:10:24 PM

Max&Oliver removed most of their votes?

Excellent! Time to return and reBay. Going back in lisk. Wink

^lol what votes to their own sockpuppets? lmfao :-D

haha read my last comment
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17042229
I have sold all my lisks when lisk devs used premine.

Please stop spreading ~~misinformation~~ Lies.
Payment for forging of blocks began the day we reached the predetermined block, and genesis nodes were un-voted prior to that.
No Lisk were ever pre-mined, or pre-forged.

So what is right with the information you have sir .. ??

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: Poly#Crypto on February 14, 2017, 03:34:33 PM

Quote from: SpaceTrader on February 14, 2017, 03:30:10 PM

what was lisk ico price ?

~ 0.00018212 LSK / BTC

Here you can find the complete ICO statistics: https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-statistics-ac36fbb94fe3#.j874t4cj8

" Please note that we can only calculate the numbers up to the 8th decimal place. Therefore, there might be small rounding fluctuations.

Kind regards,

Max Kordek, CEO

Oliver Beddows, CTO "

CEO of exactly what Huh

:-D

^seriously red flags all over the place!!! Shocked

Poly#Crypto

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Hey Liskers,
the transcript of the community meeting has just been published. Many thanks to Jan.

Community Meeting (Transcript) - February 11th, 2017

Lisk Forum: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=45&p=10480#p10480

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:49:06 PM

Quote from: gembitz on February 14, 2017, 02:35:37 PM

Quote from: selflover on February 14, 2017, 02:10:24 PM

Max&Oliver removed most of their votes?

Excellent! Time to return and reBay. Going back in lisk. Wink

^lol what votes to their own sockpuppets? lmfao :-D

haha read my last comment
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17042229
I have sold all my lisks when lisk devs used premine.

Please stop spreading ~~misinformation~~ Lies.
Payment for forging of blocks began the day we reached the predetermined block, and genesis nodes were un-voted prior to that.
No Lisk were ever pre-mined, or pre-forged.

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