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Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 487. (Read 3074310 times)

hero member
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Think or swim.
I'm beginning to lose confidence in Lisk, as many supporters have. I'm not going to sell yet but I've pretty much written this off as a loss at this point.

Why are you loosing confidence?

Well, it has been how long since launch now? We have had pretty much no development while they try to set up their organizations/companies. Is there a legal reason why they can't work on the code during this time (honest question)? You expect me to believe it took every bit of their time (they should be working AT LEAST >=40 hr work weeks with how much money they are raking in) to set up their organizations when it took this long? Sure, these things take a while to accomplish because there is tons of back and forth and bureaucracy you have to go through, but they don't actually take that much time or require that much work on a daily basis (especially split between an entire team of people)- a good portion of the time is spent waiting for things to be filed, approved, waiting to meet with people, etc. What were they doing during this entire time while they waited for the foundation of their company and why couldn't they begin work on the code? Is it because they need the ICO money to hire outside programmers? But aren't there programmers within the team itself? Wouldn't it be in the teams best interest to begin development ASAP? It's not like they are getting paid one way or another until the ICO funds are released, so why wouldn't they work to increase the value of their token during that time (they hold tons of LISK too, remember)?

Work on the code NEVER STOPS
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We have had pretty much no development

sorry, but that is wrong. If you check the github https://github.com/LiskHQ you will see that there has been A LOT of development. I'm on the testnet since the very beginning and helped testing every single alpha- and rc-release. There was a lot of progress. The problem is that you don't see that on the surface because most of the work has been done in the core, which is not visible to the regular user. There went tremendous work into the stabilization and performance increase of the core chain. And that work was very much needed before further development can happen. You can't build a fancy house on an unstable basement.
hero member
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I'm beginning to lose confidence in Lisk, as many supporters have. I'm not going to sell yet but I've pretty much written this off as a loss at this point.

Why are you loosing confidence?

Well, it has been how long since launch now? We have had pretty much no development while they try to set up their organizations/companies. Is there a legal reason why they can't work on the code during this time (honest question)? You expect me to believe it took every bit of their time (they should be working AT LEAST >=40 hr work weeks with how much money they are raking in) to set up their organizations when it took this long? Sure, these things take a while to accomplish because there is tons of back and forth and bureaucracy you have to go through, but they don't actually take that much time or require that much work on a daily basis (especially split between an entire team of people)- a good portion of the time is spent waiting for things to be filed, approved, waiting to meet with people, etc. What were they doing during this entire time while they waited for the foundation of their company and why couldn't they begin work on the code? Is it because they need the ICO money to hire outside programmers? But aren't there programmers within the team itself? Wouldn't it be in the teams best interest to begin development ASAP? It's not like they are getting paid one way or another until the ICO funds are released, so why wouldn't they work to increase the value of their token during that time (they hold tons of LISK too, remember)?
sr. member
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Quote from: MalReynolds

You don't have to report on how you spend the money in Germany that you transfer to yourself from your $10M Swiss non-profit organization.


That's a pretty nasty insinuation from someone like you... very surprising & disappointing at the same time.
sr. member
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I'm beginning to lose confidence in Lisk, as many supporters have. I'm not going to sell yet but I've pretty much written this off as a loss at this point.

Why are you loosing confidence?
hero member
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I'm beginning to lose confidence in Lisk, as many supporters have. I'm not going to sell yet but I've pretty much written this off as a loss at this point.
sr. member
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Another consideration - Lightcurve is a blockchain consulting company.  It is a way Max and Oliver can be paid to work on other cryptocoins besides Lisk.  So establishing Lightcurve almost certainly means Max and Oliver will not be spending 100% of their time on Lisk in the future.


Mal you make it sound so negative. Lightcurve is simply an LTD that enables its employees to be legally registered in Berlin and to get paid by the Lisk foundation in Switzerland.

As clearly stated in the article, Lightcurve is the enterprise used by the Lisk Foundation to support the development and promotion of Lisk while also assisting with the management of its community.

Have you ever heard of the "Dutch sandwich" or the "Double Irish arrangement"? Google it if you don't know what I'm talking about and please connect the dots before making "sided" consideration Wink

Beside, this legal arrangement is in place since November 2016. No one ever paid attention to it until now. Why making a big deal out of nothing only now? Is this another way to create more drama around Lisk?
legendary
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Another consideration - Lightcurve is a blockchain consulting company.  It is a way Max and Oliver can be paid to work on other cryptocoins besides Lisk.  So establishing Lightcurve almost certainly means Max and Oliver will not be spending 100% of their time on Lisk in the future.
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I like boobies (o)(o)
^AND NOW THIS ? ? ?  ===> https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-JBS
 Roll Eyes
MAX AND OLIVER ARE BUYING AND MAKING MONEYS! ! ! meh
WTF does a Bittrex chart of JBS have to do with max and Lisk?
Connect the dots please....  ? total nonsense

At least give us some proof its them. How about a BTC transaction that shows dev funds going to bittrex?
hero member
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Think or swim.
^AND NOW THIS ? ? ?  ===> https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-JBS
 Roll Eyes
MAX AND OLIVER ARE BUYING AND MAKING MONEYS! ! ! meh
WTF does a Bittrex chart of JBS have to do with max and Lisk?
Connect the dots please....  ? total nonsense
hero member
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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.


^AND NOW THIS ? ? ?  ===> https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-JBS


 Roll Eyes


MAX AND OLIVER ARE BUYING AND MAKING MONEYS! ! ! meh
hero member
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Think or swim.
So you are saying that they shouldn't use every possible opportunity to get more FREE money that they can use for Lisk development down the road?

So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
Good point!

Wow, that took SOOO MUCH TIME from development, (30 seconds to obtain the byteballs, at no cost... Huh)
 and only brought in 600 bitcoin worth of capital! ... (And ofc Max isn't even on the coding team, he's the President)

You probably don't even understand how powerful having a Javascript blockchain app building platform can be.

legendary
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So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
For the 1001th time...
Not a single ico coin was spent on this, it was FREE distribution.
Show us the transaction if you believe otherwise; or stfu and quit lying.

He had written using to gain and not using to buy...

Lisk team did this - very well. And if I were Max, I would look forward to the second round for Bytes and Blackbytes Smiley

But yes, please stop this stupid discussion about the Byteball distribution
full member
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I like boobies (o)(o)
So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
For the 1001th time...
Not a single ico coin was spent on this, it was FREE distribution.
Show us the transaction if you believe otherwise; or stfu and quit lying.


He's complaining about the time it took to link the address. They could have released side chains by now  Roll Eyes  Tongue
hero member
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So you are saying that they shouldn't use every possible opportunity to get more FREE money that they can use for Lisk development down the road?

So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
For the 1001th time...
Not a single ico coin was spent on this, it was FREE distribution.
Show us the transaction if you believe otherwise.



∇ expect us :-D /\






newbie
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So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
The best management from Max and amazing development for Lisk in 2017 year.  Cheesy

hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
Think or swim.
So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
For the 1001th time...
Not a single ico coin was spent on this, it was FREE distribution.
Show us the transaction if you believe otherwise; or stfu and quit lying.
hero member
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Or your java lawyer at Oracle?

You realize almost every large tech company uses Java; Facebook, Google, Apple, etc..  You should be more concerned with security of javascript, which is extremely vulnerable.
hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500
So in essence Maxie and Olivia have found a way to funnel all these delicious bitcorns to themselves......

Let's hope that Maxie will use some of the Bitcorns for the mother of all pumps on Liska....

but then again, 10,000 BTC is nothing when you think that Pascal coin was being pumped with 35 000 Bitcorns


Not only that, but they are using the ICO funds to gain significant positions in other alts, like Byteball. They currently hold 12kGB of Byteball, which equals roughly 600BTC at current price. Why they take the time to involve themselves in other projects and not focus on Lisk is obvious. Lisk marketcap will soon be worth less than BTC collected from ICO.
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