Topic: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Datacarriersize up to 220 bytes - page 68. (Read 730242 times)

I have some questions :

• is whether a coin is listed on an exchange in which deposits or withdrawals are impossible relevant to determining whether a coin has lost 99 % of its value?
• is there data you can provide or a method you can provide to discover such data which demonstrates that "many" of the 520 coins I identified as having lost 99 % of their value were on exchanges that were impossible to deposit or withdraw from?
• is there data or a method of discovering such data which someone can provide to support arvin777's contention that "almost all" of the 520 coins were scam or hype coins?
• is whether any of the 520 coins were scam or hype coins relevant to determining whether BTX is the "only" coin to have fallen in value by 99 % ?

I know the above questions may sound snarky, but it is not my intent to be snarky. My intent is to make statements supported by verifiable data, and to attempt to find verifiable data when someone else makes a statement without actual data to support it. I want to have confidence in the truth of my beliefs, and more importantly I want to have evidence (either found by myself or pointed out by someone else) that can make me realize the falsity of one of my beliefs, so that I may then change those beliefs and thus have a more accurate (i.e. less self-deceiving) view of the world.
any answers to the above 4 questions would be appreciated.  thanks

ZetaCoin M-pesa Africa - gorilla in the midst scammer - Weiner?   

that list also conveniently fails to note that many of those coins reached those prices on exchanges that were impossible to deposit or withdraw from.

we will definitely see some coins recover from 99 or more per cent falls. we have no idea which ones they'll be. thousands need to die.

children of gaia is correct. see here : https://cryptocurrencytracker.info/en/crypto-currencies/litecoin-ltc-live-trades-prices-and-market-cap

there I see the following :

• $41 on dec 1st 2013
• $2 on jan 9th 2015  (at that point the drop reaches 99.5 percent)
• $1.36 on apr 30th 2015 (at that point the drop reaches 99.7 percent)
• $45.8 on june 18th 2017 (at that point the coin had recovered a 99.7 percent drop)

it took a while, but it happened. There may be others. this might the topic of an interesting computer utility - user enters a percentage and then the utility scans historical coin data to find all coins that, between some date interval, dropped by that percentage, and then between some other later date interval, made that percentage back.

it could do other statistics as well. for example, given a percent drop of X, what is the probability that it can regain it, given historical information gleaned from all other coin histories?

This is very strange, sudden dev disappeared along with the blokirnya's withdrawal. Where the actual goings dev? whether they are preparing something? I hope it is something good.

blue sky idea - soft fork affecting future hard forks

the intent of this post is to ruminate on an idea conceived out the blue which may make no sense whatsoever, but which may give alternative ideas to those reading it.

what if it were possible to put out a soft fork which would enable the network to 'detect' future hybrid forks of itself and act in response? as an example, imagine this :

• goal is to prevent hybrid forks from generating two separate 'competing' coins
• soft fork is put out which contains new code C1-C4 which lies 'dormant', and new code C5 which is 'active'
• C5 somehow 'detects' when a future hybrid fork of itself occurs (even if the code in the fork has code C5 removed)
• If C5 'detects' the existence of a hybrid-forked-coin, it 'activates' code C1-C4
• C1-C4 copies the ledger from itself to the new hybrid-forked ledger, optionally executing a filter when doing so. As it does so, it marks its ledger entries as 'transferred'
• when all ledger entries are marked as 'transferred', the node somehow gets marked 'invalid'
• communication to 'invalid' nodes get redirected to 'valid' ones
• eventually all nodes in the pre-hybrid-fork network would be 'invalid'
• the pre-hybrid-fork network (that is, the 'old coin') then itself becomes invalid
• all communication to the pre-hybrid-fork network somehow get redirected to the new network

in other words, any new hybrid fork (which is a type of hard fork) which occurs will always become the "new" version of the coin, which would maintain it's ticker symbol, and all transactions which have gone through the alternate filter would be preserved in the "new" version of the coin, meaning everyone in the ledger would still have their funds.

again, the intent of this post is to stimulate alternate thought processes, not to claim that the above is even possible to do as currently outlined.

i noticed today that the main web site now distinguishes between exchanges for BTX and exchanges for BTX that are 'in maintenance' : https://bitcore.cc/resources/eco-system-2/  . So that might help a bit for what it is worth.

So deposits work but withdrawals don’t? 

Wow.  Just like Hotel California - you can check-in, but you can never leave.

The word was "there is no exchange to sell" and I referred to that. If you want to sell why do you need to withdraw it? Deposit it there and just sell! They are still trading with bch, bchabc and bcv and you cant withdraw bch and bsv!

Do you plan to resist asics or are you going to remove the mention of the fact that Timetravel10 has asic immunity. The community is interested in this question.

Bitcoreneeect!

Different algo, but good try at feeling better for being down 99%.   

BCH failed and Bitmain is prepairing to transfer to BTX? 

ASICS.

Litecoin fell for about 98% in 2015. Maybe btx can recover $ price in future, but there won't be any new ATH in btc pair for sure.

 This was the only Bitcoin fork I actually hodled.  Still have it.

almost all of this coins you mentioned were scam like bitconnect or abandoned projects or hype coin that used fake news and manipulating the price for a big pump til devs and big holders could sell their coins in high price and then left the coin like lbtc and zclassic i think.
so you telling us we should compare btx to scam and dead coins?
and i said I can't remember any coin That has been able to recover 99.5% loss. pls name us a coin that has been able to recover that


 

the statement "this is only coin that lost more than 99% of it's value in the last year" is not true.

to see this, go here :

https://athcoinindex.com/price/page/all

then wait patiently for the page to populate.  Then, on the left, change the "ATH date" filter to range from "0 minutes to 5 years" to "0 minutes to 1 year".  Then sort the "% from ATH" column descending.  You will note 2 things :

1. Bitcore is not in the list.  this looks like a bug, because the web page knows about bitcore because you can type it into the "search currencies" box, which then only displays the % from ATH drop over 5 years (not 1 year). but more revealing is :

2. somewhere between 20 % and 16 %  (1/5th and 1/6th) of all of the listed coins have a percent drop over the last year of 99 % or greater. (I got the 'between 20% and 16%' by eyeballing how far down I had to move the vertical scrollbar to hit a coin that was at 99 %).  when I page-up, the page scrolls by 20 coins.  how many times to I have to page up to reach the top? 27 times. So that's a minimum of 26 X 20 = 520 coins that all fit the 99 % drop criteria.  (I multiplied by 26 instead of 27 because that last page-up might have been less than 20 coins).

within those 520 coins i see that 11 coins that even had "at-the-high" prices that were higher than BTX's $48.42 dollars (which was on 11/16/17, slightly more than one year ago) :

coin name	high	current
iTicoin	$284.33	$2.54
Alphabit	$520.01	$3.53
Super Bitcoin	$362.28	$2.25
ZClassic	$248.73	$1.34
United Bitcoin	$428.17	$1.98
GoByte	$114.65	$0.44
Lightning Bitcoin	$1037.53	$2.56
Altcoin	$322.44	$0.58
Bitconnect	$509.99	$0.67
Bitcoin Atom	$484.62	$0.25
TerraNova	$2951.54	$0.02

these are in reverse order of percentage - so TerraNova had the highest percentage drop >= 99 %

you can use filters on the site to see the above list.  i've added a screenshot of how to do it on imgur :
https://imgur.com/gallery/h7CES5h

I didn't say that anywhere, is that your conclusion 
BTX has never been marketed properly, so I would definitely not say the devs have marketing skills etc...
My conclusion is that the people who WERE there for those tasks failed big time and couldn't make anything work.


New people have joined the team to take these tasks upon them, I imagine they could only do a better job than the old bunch.