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August 28, 2014, 11:21:05 PM
August 28, 2014, 11:14:15 PM
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In case of an attack against the network, the Proof Of Mining system will automatically detect the takeover attempt, driving the necessary hashpower to the block generation node, for all the time needed to null the attack.
This is a completely flawed concept.
Let's say your PoM network has a total of 10ghash/s. In order for PoM to be making money though, they are only dedicating 1ghash/s to the midas network. And let's say an attacker has 2 ghash/s, so they have better than a 50% attack, they have a 100% attack and can make themselves the legitimate chain at will.
The attacker sends money to an exchange at block 1000 and cashes out to bitcoin/fiat. The attacker then uses his 2ghash/s to mint a blockchain twice as powerful as the legitimate 1ghash/s chain. He mines until block 2000, privately. He does not give any way for his double spending fork to be discovered. His chain is twice as powerful as the legit chain. So, now he broadcasts it. IT gets relatively instantly accepted as the legit chain. If the PoM pool kicked in and started using all 10ghash/s to bring the network back to legit status, it would not instantly flip back to legit status. It would take a series of hours or even days of mining to overcome the other chain. (about 10 times less time than the attacker took. So, if the attacker 2ghash/s mined blocks for 10 days, the legit chain with 10ghash/s would take 2 days to become more powerful). During this day, they could have their double spent coins go to another transaction and spend things again. Also, anyone else could do the same. Send coins to an exchange, cash out, then wait for the legit fork to undo that transaction.
The entire idea is one of the most terrible and ill thought out things I've heard in quite some time. I understand the intentions, but it's not possible. At all. It actually makes double spending significantly easier.
Earlz has proven himself time and time again to be very well respected coder and if he says it cant work and is flawed all should take this seriously. So this must be addressed first.
Secondly you say the the coin will be backed by 20000 grams of gold at launch. So that's 643 + troy ounces of gold or somewhere in the area of $828,974 at the time of this post. Will you be providing any sort of proof that you have that kind of funding available to fund this project? You say its in a safety deposit box? It could just be a shoe in the safety deposit box.
Thirdly im not sure I understand how this works? You say people who mine Midas will have the hash they provide redirected and I guess you will mine other coins with that hash power. The only way this could fund your project is if mining other coins would be more valuable than mining Midas directly. That means we would all be better off mining other coins and buying the lower value Midas as it can not be the other way around. Please clarify this.
Hello,
I'm going to answer your paragraphs in order.
1. As mentioned already, we've escalated the query to our lead developer.
2. This will be addressed at a later time and proof that this initial investment exists.
3. This is not entirely correct. We will indeed redirect hashpower to a blockchain of choice, however this does not dictate that mining the same blockchain that we do will give the same value to you as a miner, because coins of those blockchains are not backed by a guaranteed value like MidasCoin is.
Secondly, our revenue also comes from the transaction tax on the coin.
I hope this information was satisfactory.
Hey everyone, I’m part of the team and will be handling some of the community PR. I look forward to hearing what everyone thinks about the project!
When and where can I get some Midas?
Hi there,
You'll have to wait for the launch on 7th September, then you can mine MidasCoin at MidasPool.com with Scrypt hardware.
Following this, once we have an exchange, you can also buy MidasCoin there (this will come further after the launch).
Thank you for the response. It seems that your plan would likely produce an advantage to those who choose to mine the coin once the exchange is out?
The people that mine MidasCoin on day 1 will be at the most advantage, they will have gotten it at it's "cheapest", which is the starting value. By the time an exchange is available it's backed value would have already grown. By how much so is dependant on the hash rate of MidasPool, and how quickly MidasCoin can reach an exchange.
Thank you, a member of the team will get round to answering as soon as possible.
August 28, 2014, 10:56:42 PM
Following. Good luck Dev
August 28, 2014, 10:51:55 PM
August 28, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
Hey everyone, I’m part of the team and will be handling some of the community PR. I look forward to hearing what everyone thinks about the project!
When and where can I get some Midas?
Hi there,
You'll have to wait for the launch on 7th September, then you can mine MidasCoin at MidasPool.com with Scrypt hardware.
Following this, once we have an exchange, you can also buy MidasCoin there (this will come further after the launch).
Thank you for the response. It seems that your plan would likely produce an advantage to those who choose to mine the coin once the exchange is out?
August 28, 2014, 10:24:27 PM
Quote
In case of an attack against the network, the Proof Of Mining system will automatically detect the takeover attempt, driving the necessary hashpower to the block generation node, for all the time needed to null the attack.
This is a completely flawed concept.
Let's say your PoM network has a total of 10ghash/s. In order for PoM to be making money though, they are only dedicating 1ghash/s to the midas network. And let's say an attacker has 2 ghash/s, so they have better than a 50% attack, they have a 100% attack and can make themselves the legitimate chain at will.
The attacker sends money to an exchange at block 1000 and cashes out to bitcoin/fiat. The attacker then uses his 2ghash/s to mint a blockchain twice as powerful as the legitimate 1ghash/s chain. He mines until block 2000, privately. He does not give any way for his double spending fork to be discovered. His chain is twice as powerful as the legit chain. So, now he broadcasts it. IT gets relatively instantly accepted as the legit chain. If the PoM pool kicked in and started using all 10ghash/s to bring the network back to legit status, it would not instantly flip back to legit status. It would take a series of hours or even days of mining to overcome the other chain. (about 10 times less time than the attacker took. So, if the attacker 2ghash/s mined blocks for 10 days, the legit chain with 10ghash/s would take 2 days to become more powerful). During this day, they could have their double spent coins go to another transaction and spend things again. Also, anyone else could do the same. Send coins to an exchange, cash out, then wait for the legit fork to undo that transaction.
The entire idea is one of the most terrible and ill thought out things I've heard in quite some time. I understand the intentions, but it's not possible. At all. It actually makes double spending significantly easier.
Earlz has proven himself time and time again to be very well respected coder and if he says it cant work and is flawed all should take this seriously. So this must be addressed first.
Secondly you say the the coin will be backed by 20000 grams of gold at launch. So that's 643 + troy ounces of gold or somewhere in the area of $828,974 at the time of this post. Will you be providing any sort of proof that you have that kind of funding available to fund this project? You say its in a safety deposit box? It could just be a shoe in the safety deposit box.
Thirdly im not sure I understand how this works? You say people who mine Midas will have the hash they provide redirected and I guess you will mine other coins with that hash power. The only way this could fund your project is if mining other coins would be more valuable than mining Midas directly. That means we would all be better off mining other coins and buying the lower value Midas as it can not be the other way around. Please clarify this.
August 28, 2014, 10:24:03 PM
Sounds good! This is right up my ally. I used to collect gold bullion and krugerrands. Well, until the wife wanted a new house and I had to cash in on my stash. 
August 28, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Hey everyone, I’m part of the team and will be handling some of the community PR. I look forward to hearing what everyone thinks about the project!
When and where can I get some Midas?
Hi there,
You'll have to wait for the launch on 7th September, then you can mine MidasCoin at MidasPool.com with Scrypt hardware.
Following this, once we have an exchange, you can also buy MidasCoin there (this will come further after the launch).
This project looks very promising. Will be following!
Thank you for the suggestion, we'll be contacting a number of exchanges to secure an initial listing.
August 28, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
Hey everyone, I’m part of the team and will be handling some of the community PR. I look forward to hearing what everyone thinks about the project!
When and where can I get some Midas?
Hi there,
You'll have to wait for the launch on 7th September, then you can mine MidasCoin at MidasPool.com with Scrypt hardware.
Following this, once we have an exchange, you can also buy MidasCoin there (this will come further after the launch).
This project looks very promising. Will be following!
August 28, 2014, 10:12:54 PM
Hey everyone, I’m part of the team and will be handling some of the community PR. I look forward to hearing what everyone thinks about the project!
When and where can I get some Midas?
Hi there,
You'll have to wait for the launch on 7th September, then you can mine MidasCoin at MidasPool.com with Scrypt hardware.
Following this, once we have an exchange, you can also buy MidasCoin there (this will come further after the launch).
August 28, 2014, 09:58:35 PM
Hey everyone, I’m part of the team and will be handling some of the community PR. I look forward to hearing what everyone thinks about the project!
When and where can I get some Midas?
August 28, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
This seems interesting. I'll be watching.
August 28, 2014, 09:45:52 PM
Looks good - will be waiting for the launch. Pre-reg'd at the pool, and tweeting referrals! 
August 28, 2014, 09:33:13 PM
It does remind me of WeCoin
August 28, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Quote
In case of an attack against the network, the Proof Of Mining system will automatically detect the takeover attempt, driving the necessary hashpower to the block generation node, for all the time needed to null the attack.
This is a completely flawed concept.
Let's say your PoM network has a total of 10ghash/s. In order for PoM to be making money though, they are only dedicating 1ghash/s to the midas network. And let's say an attacker has 2 ghash/s, so they have better than a 50% attack, they have a 100% attack and can make themselves the legitimate chain at will.
The attacker sends money to an exchange at block 1000 and cashes out to bitcoin/fiat. The attacker then uses his 2ghash/s to mint a blockchain twice as powerful as the legitimate 1ghash/s chain. He mines until block 2000, privately. He does not give any way for his double spending fork to be discovered. His chain is twice as powerful as the legit chain. So, now he broadcasts it. IT gets relatively instantly accepted as the legit chain. If the PoM pool kicked in and started using all 10ghash/s to bring the network back to legit status, it would not instantly flip back to legit status. It would take a series of hours or even days of mining to overcome the other chain. (about 10 times less time than the attacker took. So, if the attacker 2ghash/s mined blocks for 10 days, the legit chain with 10ghash/s would take 2 days to become more powerful). During this day, they could have their double spent coins go to another transaction and spend things again. Also, anyone else could do the same. Send coins to an exchange, cash out, then wait for the legit fork to undo that transaction.
The entire idea is one of the most terrible and ill thought out things I've heard in quite some time. I understand the intentions, but it's not possible. At all. It actually makes double spending significantly easier.
The matter has already been escalated to our Head developer for being considered and dealt with accordingly.
What i can say upfront, is that the situation described has already been simulated during our stress testing (even much worst situations) and the network has suffered no issue at all.
If you can "fix" this issue, it's only because you made the currency centralized with you having 100% control over what is the legitimate chain.. in that case, all you need is 100khash/s to move the chain along.
August 28, 2014, 09:21:05 PM
I hope to provide Chinese extension service for you, and I can help you creating a QQ group Like other successful alt coin.what do you think?
BTW:I can make a Chinese translation too.
BTW:I can make a Chinese translation too.
Hello,
We are interested in your proposal.
Please, contact the proper department.
Our startup is divided into departments and your proposal should be submitted here http://midaspay.io/helpdesk through a support ticket.
Thanks
August 28, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
I hope to provide Chinese extension service for you, and I can help you creating a QQ group Like other successful alt coin.what do you think?
BTW:I can make a Chinese translation too.
BTW:I can make a Chinese translation too.
August 28, 2014, 09:13:03 PM
Quote
In case of an attack against the network, the Proof Of Mining system will automatically detect the takeover attempt, driving the necessary hashpower to the block generation node, for all the time needed to null the attack.
This is a completely flawed concept.
Let's say your PoM network has a total of 10ghash/s. In order for PoM to be making money though, they are only dedicating 1ghash/s to the midas network. And let's say an attacker has 2 ghash/s, so they have better than a 50% attack, they have a 100% attack and can make themselves the legitimate chain at will.
The attacker sends money to an exchange at block 1000 and cashes out to bitcoin/fiat. The attacker then uses his 2ghash/s to mint a blockchain twice as powerful as the legitimate 1ghash/s chain. He mines until block 2000, privately. He does not give any way for his double spending fork to be discovered. His chain is twice as powerful as the legit chain. So, now he broadcasts it. IT gets relatively instantly accepted as the legit chain. If the PoM pool kicked in and started using all 10ghash/s to bring the network back to legit status, it would not instantly flip back to legit status. It would take a series of hours or even days of mining to overcome the other chain. (about 10 times less time than the attacker took. So, if the attacker 2ghash/s mined blocks for 10 days, the legit chain with 10ghash/s would take 2 days to become more powerful). During this day, they could have their double spent coins go to another transaction and spend things again. Also, anyone else could do the same. Send coins to an exchange, cash out, then wait for the legit fork to undo that transaction.
The entire idea is one of the most terrible and ill thought out things I've heard in quite some time. I understand the intentions, but it's not possible. At all. It actually makes double spending significantly easier.
The matter has already been escalated to our Head developer for being considered and dealt with accordingly.
What i can say upfront, is that the situation described has already been simulated during our stress testing (even much worst situations) and the network has suffered no issue at all.
August 28, 2014, 09:07:55 PM
Quote
In case of an attack against the network, the Proof Of Mining system will automatically detect the takeover attempt, driving the necessary hashpower to the block generation node, for all the time needed to null the attack.
This is a completely flawed concept.
Let's say your PoM network has a total of 10ghash/s. In order for PoM to be making money though, they are only dedicating 1ghash/s to the midas network. And let's say an attacker has 2 ghash/s, so they have better than a 50% attack, they have a 100% attack and can make themselves the legitimate chain at will.
The attacker sends money to an exchange at block 1000 and cashes out to bitcoin/fiat. The attacker then uses his 2ghash/s to mint a blockchain twice as powerful as the legitimate 1ghash/s chain. He mines until block 2000, privately. He does not give any way for his double spending fork to be discovered. His chain is twice as powerful as the legit chain. So, now he broadcasts it. IT gets relatively instantly accepted as the legit chain. If the PoM pool kicked in and started using all 10ghash/s to bring the network back to legit status, it would not instantly flip back to legit status. It would take a series of hours or even days of mining to overcome the other chain. (about 10 times less time than the attacker took. So, if the attacker 2ghash/s mined blocks for 10 days, the legit chain with 10ghash/s would take 2 days to become more powerful). During this day, they could have their double spent coins go to another transaction and spend things again. Also, anyone else could do the same. Send coins to an exchange, cash out, then wait for the legit fork to undo that transaction.
The entire idea is one of the most terrible and ill thought out things I've heard in quite some time. I understand the intentions, but it's not possible. At all. It actually makes double spending significantly easier.
August 28, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
MidasCoin, MidasAlchemist, Firstly, very detailed OP, nice work.
Simply an FYI.
On the home page of http://midascoin.io the following css is displayed in the browser above the countdown timer;
FAQ link (top left - http://midascoin.io/faq-4/) & ATM Withdraw (bottom left - http://midascoin.io/midas-mastercard-2/). FAQ appears to be incomplete/default template, also both pages display css in browser.
Also, the email envelope (top right) links to http://midascoin.io/[email protected] (page not found) instead of spawning mail app.
Simply an FYI.
On the home page of http://midascoin.io the following css is displayed in the browser above the countdown timer;
Code:
.panel-gold > .panel-heading {
color: #fff;
background-color: #C49E2C;
border-color: #ddd;
}
color: #fff;
background-color: #C49E2C;
border-color: #ddd;
}
FAQ link (top left - http://midascoin.io/faq-4/) & ATM Withdraw (bottom left - http://midascoin.io/midas-mastercard-2/). FAQ appears to be incomplete/default template, also both pages display css in browser.
Code:
hr {
margin-top: 20px;
margin-bottom: 20px;
border: 0;
border-top: 1px solid #ddd;
}
margin-top: 20px;
margin-bottom: 20px;
border: 0;
border-top: 1px solid #ddd;
}
Also, the email envelope (top right) links to http://midascoin.io/[email protected] (page not found) instead of spawning mail app.
Seem that we have our first Bounty HUNTER!
Please, submit a support ticket as the proper procedure for claim your bounty
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