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Perfect timing for the Kickstarter - this week is National Small Business Week!


National Small Business Week Celebrates the American Entrepreneurial Spirit

Read more at http://www.business2community.com/small-business/national-small-business-week-celebrates-american-entrepreneurial-spirit-01531192#lkwz2MbSwwjk6evU.99

Awesome! Couldn't be better timing.
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From CryptoMoms Forum:

Quote from: indiamikezulu on Today at 01:38:26 AM

I'll follow this with interest, Shepherd.

And my thoughts on the Aussie Satoshi? Well, perhaps we could all take turns claiming to be him, and use each opportunity to explain cryptos to the mainstream media:

'Press Release: Farm-House Guy Claims to be Bitcoin's Inventor. Likes gardening and watching emus. Says Bitcoin is good but Dnotes is better. Details at nine.'

Quote From Shepherd Today:

Very funny, Mark. Should I try and see if I have a "Satoshi" looking picture somewhere? You could claim that you met me years ago in the Indonesian Borneo jungle ..bah bah, bah, ... lol.
legendary
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Perfect timing for the Kickstarter - this week is National Small Business Week!


National Small Business Week Celebrates the American Entrepreneurial Spirit

Read more at http://www.business2community.com/small-business/national-small-business-week-celebrates-american-entrepreneurial-spirit-01531192#lkwz2MbSwwjk6evU.99

Thanks, Chase. Good to know that SBA has been trying a little harder these days. The book will be a significant help to many small business owners. I am gearing up to give it a big push.
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Perfect timing for the Kickstarter - this week is National Small Business Week!


National Small Business Week Celebrates the American Entrepreneurial Spirit

Read more at http://www.business2community.com/small-business/national-small-business-week-celebrates-american-entrepreneurial-spirit-01531192#lkwz2MbSwwjk6evU.99
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We are extremely busy getting ready to launch the Kickstarter campaign for the book later this week. Any extra efforts to help support this forum will be greatly appreciated. We will be posting more information later in the week. Meanwhile, you can read a fairly comprehensive chapter summation of the book at: https://fourpillarsofbusinesssuccess.com/book-preview/

I trust that this book will be invaluable to many employers, employees, and anyone interested to start their own business. I have passionately made every effort for it to be a great inspiration and guidance for every entrepreneur. It is my intent to be helpful to anyone I can help. There are too many people struggling just to stay afloat.
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And so the saga continues but I agree that, " if Dr Wright can move one of Satoshi's bitcoins - as promised - that should convince many of the doubters.

But don't expect everybody to be convinced
."



The Bitcoin affair: Craig Wright promises extraordinary proof

Rory Cellan-Jones
Technology correspondent

Craig Wright's spokesman told the BBC that the Australian would "move a coin from an early block" known to belong to the crypto-currency's inventor "in the coming days".

The entrepreneur announced he was behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto on Monday.
Critics have said that the evidence produced to date is unconvincing.

In a new blog - published after I first wrote this article - Dr Wright said it was right that the public was sceptical about his claims, but added that he would soon present "extraordinary" evidence to support his case.

"I will be posting a series of pieces that will lay the foundations for this extraordinary claim, which will include posting independently-verifiable documents and evidence addressing some of the false allegations that have been levelled, and transferring bitcoin from an early block," he wrote.

"For some there is no burden of proof high enough, no evidence that cannot be dismissed as fabrication or manipulation. This is the nature of belief and swimming against this current would be futile.
"I will present what I believe to be 'extraordinary proof' and ask only that it be independently validated. Ultimately, I can do no more than that."

You can read the strongest attack on Dr Wright in this post on Github, where his original post was described as "flimflam and hokum which stands up to a few minutes of cursory scrutiny, and demonstrates a competent sysadmin's level of familiarity with cryptographic tools, but ultimately demonstrates no non-public information about Satoshi."

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36193006
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Hi i was talking with a friend to mine and send to retirement plan, but im not sure how it run, i mean i start a retirement plan in 1/1/2015 ,,, but all weeks i send 550 extra DNotes from minning to my plan

So i recover all my deposits in plan in 2019 or each deposit has his own expire date ?

haha sorry my english hope you understand the question ?


another one is date to buy alan book, and if is going to be posible buy it with DNotes ?



Hey infovortice, once you setup an account, you can add to it at any time but the date of release for the total funds of that account won't change.

We don't have a set date as of yet, but the kickstarter should be up at the end of this week. We will have a separate account on the DNotesVault specifically for purchasing a digital copy of the book, and those funds will be set aside for upcoming DNotes projects.

hou hou hou ,,, good to know , thanks for quick response i just tell back to my friend now and suggest come here and say hi to comunitty
can wait 1 week moar for the book Cheesy
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Hi i was talking with a friend to mine and send to retirement plan, but im not sure how it run, i mean i start a retirement plan in 1/1/2015 ,,, but all weeks i send 550 extra DNotes from minning to my plan

So i recover all my deposits in plan in 2019 or each deposit has his own expire date ?

haha sorry my english hope you understand the question ?


another one is date to buy alan book, and if is going to be posible buy it with DNotes ?



Hey infovortice, once you setup an account, you can add to it at any time but the date of release for the total funds of that account won't change.

We don't have a set date as of yet, but the kickstarter should be up at the end of this week. We will have a separate account on the DNotesVault specifically for purchasing a digital copy of the book, and those funds will be set aside for upcoming DNotes projects.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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Hi i was talking with a friend to mine and send to retirement plan, but im not sure how it run, i mean i start a retirement plan in 1/1/2015 ,,, but all weeks i send 550 extra DNotes from minning to my plan

So i recover all my deposits in plan in 2019 or each deposit has his own expire date ?

haha sorry my english hope you understand the question ?


another one is date to buy alan book, and if is going to be posible buy it with DNotes ?

legendary
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Federal Reserve Bank of New York board member Glenn Hutchins on why bitcoin is also important:


Glenn Hutchins: Blockchain is Good, Bitcoin is Important

http://www.coindesk.com/glenn-hutchins-bitcoin-xxxx/?

Pretty interesting way to look at it "Disconnected from the digital currency, blockchain exists more like an intranet. Intranet was quite important, but the transformative value was only when all those intranets were connected into an Internet."

Hutchins indicated that bitcoins could come to serve as the "boxcars" for finance, comparing distributed ledgers to the new "railroads" in terms of how they could enable economic development.
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Federal Reserve Bank of New York board member Glenn Hutchins on why bitcoin is also important:


Glenn Hutchins: Blockchain is Good, Bitcoin is Important

http://www.coindesk.com/glenn-hutchins-bitcoin-xxxx/?
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If this is true - which it potentially is given the Gavin Adresen evidence (unless it is be an elaborate ploy to confuse in conjunction with Nakamoto), it will not come as a surprise to everybody.


Craig Wright revealed as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto

"Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright has publicly identified himself as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto.
His admission ends years of speculation about who came up with the original ideas underlying the digital cash system.

Mr Wright has provided technical proof to back up his claim using coins known to be owned by Bitcoin's creator.
Prominent members of the Bitcoin community and its core development team have also confirmed Mr Wright's claim."

Read more:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863

Coindesk and other media are pointing to doubts about the evidence provided however:

http://www.coindesk.com/doubts-cast-craig-wright-bitcoin-proof/

All pretty irrelevant at the end of the day -- It seems like when you light a fire near a rabbit hole so that the rabbit will move and exit another hole where it can be caught. Interesting - but maybe we should all get back to fixing the worlds money creation problem? Exciting things ahead.

Quite convincing, but may be best to remain open minded. I trust that we all have been fooled by the media more than once. I am most interested to learn about potential implications to our industry if this claim turns out to be true.

Interesting that Gavin backed the claim that he believed this to be Satoshi.


Yes but that makes me feel even more confused.

Yes, in my view that is the only piece of information that gives the story any credibility. I may not have touched on that part.

Tinfoil hate goes back on - Gavin is either convinced that Wright is Satoshi, OR, he is also working in collusion with Satoshi to fool the world to Satoshi's benefit, or worst case, he is being coerced by another party against his wishes to back the claim.

We will see what happens in the next couple of weeks - the good thing is, is that this won't affect blockchain as a technology in any way.
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If this is true - which it potentially is given the Gavin Adresen evidence (unless it is be an elaborate ploy to confuse in conjunction with Nakamoto), it will not come as a surprise to everybody.


Craig Wright revealed as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto

"Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright has publicly identified himself as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto.
His admission ends years of speculation about who came up with the original ideas underlying the digital cash system.

Mr Wright has provided technical proof to back up his claim using coins known to be owned by Bitcoin's creator.
Prominent members of the Bitcoin community and its core development team have also confirmed Mr Wright's claim."

Read more:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863

Coindesk and other media are pointing to doubts about the evidence provided however:

http://www.coindesk.com/doubts-cast-craig-wright-bitcoin-proof/

All pretty irrelevant at the end of the day -- It seems like when you light a fire near a rabbit hole so that the rabbit will move and exit another hole where it can be caught. Interesting - but maybe we should all get back to fixing the worlds money creation problem? Exciting things ahead.

Quite convincing, but may be best to remain open minded. I trust that we all have been fooled by the media more than once. I am most interested to learn about potential implications to our industry if this claim turns out to be true.

Interesting that Gavin backed the claim that he believed this to be Satoshi.


Yes but that makes me feel even more confused.

Welcome to the DNotes thread, NiceDev!
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If this is true - which it potentially is given the Gavin Adresen evidence (unless it is be an elaborate ploy to confuse in conjunction with Nakamoto), it will not come as a surprise to everybody.


Craig Wright revealed as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto

"Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright has publicly identified himself as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto.
His admission ends years of speculation about who came up with the original ideas underlying the digital cash system.

Mr Wright has provided technical proof to back up his claim using coins known to be owned by Bitcoin's creator.
Prominent members of the Bitcoin community and its core development team have also confirmed Mr Wright's claim."

Read more:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863

Coindesk and other media are pointing to doubts about the evidence provided however:

http://www.coindesk.com/doubts-cast-craig-wright-bitcoin-proof/

All pretty irrelevant at the end of the day -- It seems like when you light a fire near a rabbit hole so that the rabbit will move and exit another hole where it can be caught. Interesting - but maybe we should all get back to fixing the worlds money creation problem? Exciting things ahead.

Quite convincing, but may be best to remain open minded. I trust that we all have been fooled by the media more than once. I am most interested to learn about potential implications to our industry if this claim turns out to be true.

Interesting that Gavin backed the claim that he believed this to be Satoshi.


Yes but that makes me feel even more confused.
legendary
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If this is true - which it potentially is given the Gavin Adresen evidence (unless it is be an elaborate ploy to confuse in conjunction with Nakamoto), it will not come as a surprise to everybody.


Craig Wright revealed as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto

"Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright has publicly identified himself as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto.
His admission ends years of speculation about who came up with the original ideas underlying the digital cash system.

Mr Wright has provided technical proof to back up his claim using coins known to be owned by Bitcoin's creator.
Prominent members of the Bitcoin community and its core development team have also confirmed Mr Wright's claim."

Read more:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863

Coindesk and other media are pointing to doubts about the evidence provided however:

http://www.coindesk.com/doubts-cast-craig-wright-bitcoin-proof/

All pretty irrelevant at the end of the day -- It seems like when you light a fire near a rabbit hole so that the rabbit will move and exit another hole where it can be caught. Interesting - but maybe we should all get back to fixing the worlds money creation problem? Exciting things ahead.

Quite convincing, but may be best to remain open minded. I trust that we all have been fooled by the media more than once. I am most interested to learn about potential implications to our industry if this claim turns out to be true.

Interesting that Gavin backed the claim that he believed this to be Satoshi.
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I can think of several compelling possibilities for it to be a lie, the options would be:

1. He is telling the truth:

He has some crazy incentive that for one reason or another makes it beneficial for him in some way to be known as Bitcoin's creator - a business venture or something whatever. A venture like this would be an equally compelling reason for him (Wright / Nakamoto) to want to remain anonymous for so long too.

He is obviously somebody who is very libertarian and doesn't like paying tax - the distrust in government and belief in not paying tax that would potentially be a driver in Bitcoin's creation is also there.

2. He is lying:


It is beneficial for him to be Nakamoto because of the new fame that he would ascertain - and book deals and contracts and speaking fees would be made possible to give juice to his new business ventures. I imagine he would also be needing money rather urgently if the Australian tax authority is trying to screw him. It also works well for Nakamoto to have the world think he is somebody else. Nakamoto has been quiet for so long - so why would he just change tac and let everybody know who he is? Deception is a preferable option to having every man and his dog looking out for his real identity. Satoshi has more than 1 million bitcoins and the moment he moves them people will begin trying to use the forensic evidence to work out his true identity no matter what - at least if Satoshi can collaborate with somebody else to pretend they're him, then he can work with them to smuggle around the money without getting absolutely rolled over by the government who will be watching that account very closely for any transactions and exchange endpoints that lead to a bank account, revealing his true identity.

In this part, one of the crux's is of course that other prominent Bitcoin people claim to have seen enough evidence to believe that Wright was the man they worked on Bitcoin with back in 2009/10. More importantly, it also rests on whether the evidence that Wright has provided is trustworthy - he seems unprepared to make more proof for everybody (i.e. sign another transaction) because he doesn't want to "jump through hoops" or whatever he said.

There is also the possibility that with a tax investigation going on about him, he may have made this claim to crash the price of Bitcoin, so to buy up a large order or Bitcoin, and then sell once the price recovered. It would be pretty easy to pull off if you knew that the real Satoshi Nakamoto had passed away, or was allowing you to do so uncontested.

He could also be compelled to lie with threats - there are many parties who would benefit from somebody like Wright claiming to be Bitcoin's creator (whether true or not). This wouldn't be limited to people who would use Wright to destroy the Bitcoin network after the community demand that the father of Bitcoin return to further its development.


Then, the Australian Tax Authority raids in December 2015 part:

All I know at this stage is that within hours of the original Wired and Gizmodo stories claiming that he was Bitcoin's creator in December, that his home was raided by the Government. There are several reasons for why this would have been directly as a result of the media release, and not the result of an *unrelated* long-running tax investigation that led to Wright's home being raided only hours after the claims release... One would be that the moment that his identity was revealed, he would be more likely to make a mistake, or have his Private cryptographic key lying around (paper wallet) or have his computer wallets opened while considering what to do with his Bitcoin's if he was worried about being extorted, or about unwelcome visits from the government and/or people who suddenly knew how wealthy he was. Given the government had a *long-running* investigation on him, it would be highly probable that the government would believe the story to be true (because nothing is more convenient for the government to look at libertarians like Wright as tax evaders, and of course, Bitcoin = tax evasion, drugs, and terrorism). The government probably figured that if Wright was indeed Satoshi then right then and there would have been the most opportune moment to raid Wright's home and seize all of his Bitcoins which they would otherwise never have been able to tax. They could also force collaboration from him to rejoin the project / develop it further in line with their desires and then destroy the system and blame its "unregulated nature" to be the cause. This would allow the fiat money boom/bust cycle to go one more round (less likely).

Then again, being raided only hours after a media release, is there something the government knows that we don't? It wouldn't even be worth asking if his house was bugged and all his communications monitored - however the creator of Bitcoin is probably quite interested in end to end encryption Smiley. Perhaps the Australian government were just concerned Wright would try to disappear with $500m of Bitcoin if he was, in fact, Satoshi - and then prudentially raided his property to ensure that he 1. didn't get away, and 2. maximised the probability of seizing the bitcoins.


I guess there will be a lot in the media about why this is important - I personally prefer Satoshi to remain anonymous. This is probably a better layout of the potential scenarios than you will ever find on coindesk or any other media blog who will just post whatever somebody says, and ignore the motivations. Personally I find the best way to figure out what the truth is in the absence of information and proof is to list the possibilities, and then analyse which options are the most likely given restraints of both capability and probability. There are other more obscure angles, but people can make up their own mind which are most likely. Perhaps our resident Australian IMZ has a view on this.

And with that I'll switch off my thinking hat so nobody thinks it is made of tinfoil! While I think this is all very interesting, I also think finding Satoshi's identity to be irrelevant. The technology has been released, and it is what we do with it from here that is important.



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