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legendary
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How did DNotes perform this year?

From the top 50 on CoinMarketCap, there are 24 other currencies that have been around as long, or longer, than DNotes.  I calculated how much your investment would be worth if $100 was put into any one of these coins on March 8, 2014 (the day DNotes was listed on CoinMarketcap).  Here is what I found out:

DNotes              $2,497
BlackCoin               845
Pandacoin              211
Darkcoin                210
Ripple                   163
Counterparty          114
ReddCoin                69
Bitcoin                    50

The other 16 currencies are spread out between $5 and $48 and were so depressing to look at, I didn't want to list them!!  I know that normally you would look at a much longer time frame before getting excited, but this is crypto and there isn't a long history yet.  Plus, what a nice way to ring in the new year!  Smiley
Great list can I use this info for my new year DNOTES BLOG POST? I got a lot of family cooking to do tomorrow but want to do a DNOTES new year post in few days..

ALSO congrats to all the DNOTES BABIES popping out.. May all the DNOTES FAM be healthy and happy and prosperous in the coming year..

Very good, Qiwoman. Happy New Year to you, family and friends and everyone else! Plenty going today. See you next year.
legendary
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How did DNotes perform this year?

From the top 50 on CoinMarketCap, there are 24 other currencies that have been around as long, or longer, than DNotes.  I calculated how much your investment would be worth if $100 was put into any one of these coins on March 8, 2014 (the day DNotes was listed on CoinMarketcap).  Here is what I found out:

DNotes              $2,497
BlackCoin               845
Pandacoin              211
Darkcoin                210
Ripple                   163
Counterparty          114
ReddCoin                69
Bitcoin                    50

The other 16 currencies are spread out between $5 and $48 and were so depressing to look at, I didn't want to list them!!  I know that normally you would look at a much longer time frame before getting excited, but this is crypto and there isn't a long history yet.  Plus, what a nice way to ring in the new year!  Smiley
Great list can I use this info for my new year DNOTES BLOG POST? I got a lot of family cooking to do tomorrow but want to do a DNOTES new year post in few days..

ALSO congrats to all the DNOTES BABIES popping out.. May all the DNOTES FAM be healthy and happy and prosperous in the coming year..
legendary
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Thanx for warm welcome everyone. Cheesy You're quite awesome community.

I must say Dyna, i recognized myself in that "hundreds of others who stayed watchfully but quietly" part as i often see myself as a silent reader.
Btw i must say DNotesVault is a great idea, especially the CR.I.S.P. for Kids.
Now, regardless of being a silent guy, i'm sure i'll be the first wierdo here who announced that he's going to become a daddy! Cheesy

HAPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats!!  I just married off the third one, one more to go then we are free, free!!!  (2 boys, 2 girls)


Congratulations, RJF. Does it mean that you will have more time do some thing great? The combination of DNotesVault and CR.I.S.P. has opened up all kinds of opportunities; as a free service or as a charity fund raising tool which we have previously mentioned. There are also many revenue generating, privately owned businesses, that can be started to exploit the rapidly growing digital currency space. I know that you have a great deal of successful entrepreneurial background. I just like to mention that we will be supportive of qualified individuals or groups interested to utilize our growing infrastructure. Happy New Year!!
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
How did DNotes perform this year?

From the top 50 on CoinMarketCap, there are 24 other currencies that have been around as long, or longer, than DNotes.  I calculated how much your investment would be worth if $100 was put into any one of these coins on March 8, 2014 (the day DNotes was listed on CoinMarketcap).  Here is what I found out:

DNotes              $2,497
BlackCoin               845
Pandacoin              211
Darkcoin                210
Ripple                   163
Counterparty          114
ReddCoin                69
Bitcoin                    50

The other 16 currencies are spread out between $5 and $48 and were so depressing to look at, I didn't want to list them!!  I know that normally you would look at a much longer time frame before getting excited, but this is crypto and there isn't a long history yet.  Plus, what a nice way to ring in the new year!  Smiley
RJF
hero member
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Thanx for warm welcome everyone. Cheesy You're quite awesome community.

I must say Dyna, i recognized myself in that "hundreds of others who stayed watchfully but quietly" part as i often see myself as a silent reader.
Btw i must say DNotesVault is a great idea, especially the CR.I.S.P. for Kids.
Now, regardless of being a silent guy, i'm sure i'll be the first wierdo here who announced that he's going to become a daddy! Cheesy

HAPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats!!  I just married off the third one, one more to go then we are free, free!!!  (2 boys, 2 girls)
hero member
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Congratulations on the pregnancies guys! Wish you guys all the best.

That's awesome that businesses that work with and take note of DNotes are accepting it. With more exposure, even more companies will begin to take notice, and accept it too. Well done.

This mixed with the secure deposit vault, and the most stable value, is outlaying a great future path for this crypto.
legendary
Activity: 1610
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Thanx for warm welcome everyone. Cheesy You're quite awesome community.

I must say Dyna, i recognized myself in that "hundreds of others who stayed watchfully but quietly" part as i often see myself as a silent reader.
Btw i must say DNotesVault is a great idea, especially the CR.I.S.P. for Kids.
Now, regardless of being a silent guy, i'm sure i'll be the first wierdo here who announced that he's going to become a daddy! Cheesy

HAPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations!
legendary
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This may be the start of a Baby DNotes boom!  

Does it mean that I need to slow down our P.R. and start saving for the Baby Dnotes boom? Our P.R. Company just informed me that they will now accept DNotes as payment. If I remember correctly from my marketing professor, this is called "pull marketing" verses "push marketing". I never did push them to accept DNotes. DNotes must have sold itself. That's is a good sign. We are here for the long term. If we build it correctly they will come. Happy New Year!
legendary
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This may be the start of a Baby DNotes boom! 
sr. member
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Sorry Alex, beat you by just under 3 minutes. Wink
sr. member
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I think this year's new year's resolution, will be to pick up a few thousand dnotes for my CR.I.S.P. account for the to be kiddo, and a few thousand to break up into 500 Dnote ammounts to toss out to other CR.I.S.P. accounts.
legendary
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Hello everyone. Well, Nele(onele) said it all! Smiley I'm more than happy for taking he's advice and mining Note from the launch, even more for being a long time holder. Smiley
Just wanted to wish you all Happy New Year and lot of luck/health/$$$ Wink

Some people give out VERY good advice!! Wink

Thank you Nele and Alex1001 for all the great wishes for luck, success, health, and $$$.  Happy New Year to both of you, and to everyone else at DNotes!

Thanks Alex1001. We are delighted to see your first post on DNotes forum. There got to be more reasons than we know of that make DNotes the most stable digital currency. Perhaps it is also because of stakeholders like you and Nele, and probably hundreds of others who stayed watchfully but quietly supporting DNotes. What a pleasant surprise. We want to thank you all for your support and confidence in us.

This has been one of my guiding philosophies as an entrepreneur. It is a far better choice to be successful by giving many others the opportunity to be successful as well, than to succeed alone at the expense of others. It is so much more rewarding and far less stressful, when those around us earnestly want everyone to be successful. That is when common people like us can attain uncommon goals to the surprise of others.

Our very best wishes to you and everyone a Happy, Healthy, and Prosperous New Year!!!
legendary
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legendary
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DNotes
Hello everyone. Well, Nele(onele) said it all! Smiley I'm more than happy for taking he's advice and mining Note from the launch, even more for being a long time holder. Smiley
Just wanted to wish you all Happy New Year and lot of luck/health/$$$ Wink

Some people give out VERY good advice!! Wink

Thank you nele and Alex1001 for all the great wishes for luck, success, health, and $$$.  Happy New Year to both of you, and to everyone else at DNotes!

Glad to have you Alex1001 Cheesy

Happy new year
legendary
Activity: 1638
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Hello everyone. Well, Nele(onele) said it all! Smiley I'm more than happy for taking he's advice and mining Note from the launch, even more for being a long time holder. Smiley
Just wanted to wish you all Happy New Year and lot of luck/health/$$$ Wink

Some people give out VERY good advice!! Wink

Thank you Nele and Alex1001 for all the great wishes for luck, success, health, and $$$.  Happy New Year to both of you, and to everyone else at DNotes!
legendary
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DNotes
Dear all,


it is a great pleasure to know that I have friends like Dnotes community on this forum.
Like  said in some posts from August and September this year,Dnotes must succeed,
here is a great community,stabile markets,not greed developers,true long term holders,without stress....
Like a miner from the launch,i am more than satisfied how things going.

I am wishing you all

Happy New Year,
Big Bags of Luck
and more success
in the 2015!!!!


Best Regards

Nele

Thank you for the kind words Nele! Glad to hear form you again on the forum. We are very pleased to hear all the positive comments and will strive to continue growing DNotes.
sr. member
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Dear all,


it is a great pleasure to know that I have friends like Dnotes community on this forum.
Like  said in some posts from August and September this year,Dnotes must succeed,
here is a great community,stabile markets,not greed developers,true long term holders,without stress....
Like a miner from the launch,i am more than satisfied how things going.

I am wishing you all

Happy New Year,
Big Bags of Luck
and more success
in the 2015!!!!


Best Regards

Nele
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1060
Articles like this make me wonder how many other currencies have any idea how complex the issues are ahead of them, on the road to mainstream acceptance.  

"How 'Bitbanks' Could Solve Bitcoin's Volatility Problem"

http://www.coindesk.com/bitbanks-solve-bitcoins-volatility-problem/

Excellent link Chase. It was a very interesting abstract, I might even read the full work later on. I recently read this http://essay.utwente.nl/65677/1/Spenkelink_MA_MG.pdf in all of its 90 odd pages. It was quite interesting, but I didn't find any new material that most of us weren't already aware of, or solutions to the problems the crypto world must overcome that would help this community.

Myself, I'm less certain in the authors application of the "pretty" MV=PQ model for money demand. You see the author made no mention that the velocity of money means that the slower money transfers between accounts, the more of it will be required in the system to facilitate transactions.

Take for example your bank account and my bank account. If I wanted to send you some USD from my bank account, and our accounts were both in the US, I would expect the transaction to clear overnight into your account, meaning that money that could be travelling around the economy, is "stuck" in the system, and unusable until the time it clears. If I sent you $10, and you owed somebody else $10 that due on the same date, then instead of me sending you $10, and you then forwarding on that $10 to the next person instantly (a $10 velocity of money we can call it), the system would then require $20 (V = $20) to facilitate my payment to you, and your payment to the next person on the same night. This is all because of the "stuck" money.

In the digital currency realm this is completely different, I could transfer you 10 Dnotes, and you could send those same 10 Dnotes to the next person almost instantly, meaning we would only need 10 Dnotes in the system to facilitate our transactions, we essentially require half the amount of money in the system to facilitate the same transfer of value. This effect compounds the more transactions people make, so say a million bank transfers happen... well... we might then need 1 million times the money in the system to facilitate financial services, which means 1 million times the demand for additional units of dollars. Technically, one could argue that if everybody made transactions instantly, we would only really need say "1 Dnote x the maximum transaction amount in the entire system" to facilitate this value for "V" (Velocity). It would work in a similar manner to the "One-electron universe" theory put forward by Richard Feynman in 1940 that said that "all electrons and positrons are actually manifestations of a single entity moving backwards and forwards in time." For the crypto version, time was manipulated, but the blockchain can't go backwards like with the electron theory Smiley.

To me this is one reason why we don't actually need that many total coins in the crypto universe (especially since each and every unit of account like a Dnote, is divisible any which way. In the future we will require smaller units like "mini-notes" that are worth like... 1/100th of a Dnote or whatever). It is not possible to chop up your 20 dollar USD notes and expect them to be worth anything, there will always be enough Notes in existence for everybody in the world.  I hope I explained that okay. If anything, my thoughts above would suggest that there would be far less demand for notes due to "required velocity" if they are applied to the MV=PQ theory. I hope I've explained myself alright here, tried to give easy examples. I'm sure there are other people pondering the same thing out there, and one day we might come to some type of logical consensus. I'm not sold that V matters at all... yet. I also think people need to stop treating crypto economic theory in the same we have with our flawed fiat models!!!

My point here, is that the author made no mention that a crypto money supply wouldn't behave in the same way as a fiat one would. This fact is central to their argument of price volatility and demand for crypto, which I think would make their theory of money velocity incorrect. Those are just my thoughts anyway (but I'm not the one writing for coindesk ha!).

Other than that, the computer algorithms for changing money supply would be quite clever, so long as we don't have any type of "monetary policy" run by governments. When people hold onto their crypto in the expectation that it will appreciate, those coins are technically taken out of the system (since they will not be put onto exchanges or used to buy things), some would say that this would lead to an appreciation in a coins value because it pretty much works like monetary policy, where supply has been changed. I feel inclined to agree, but in this instance, I wouldn't attribute price changes as a result of the velocity ("V") part of the equation like coindesk authors seem to.

I think I've babbled enough, my writing has been interrupted before I got a chance to edit all the spots where I repeated myself and find all the insufficient explanations yadayada.

Hope everybody has a great Xmas. Thanks Dnotes team.

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Thanks TeeGee.  That was a great explanation and I definitely learned a few things.  I have never thought about money being "stuck" in the system like that and I liked the way you explained it.  We will likely see most people attempting to compare the crypto money supply to fiat for quite some time, as you said, or at least until they figure out it doesn't work the same.

As far as the  "One-electron universe" theory put forward by Richard Feynman in 1940 that said that "all electrons and positrons are actually manifestations of a single entity moving backwards and forwards in time" part of your post goes, we'll have to save that for another day.  My head still hurts from son trying to explain quantum entanglement to me weeks ago!  Grin




The Quantity Theory of Money

The Quantity Theory of Money (MV=PQ) is in integral part of our Stability Model, but it goes way beyond that, including a behavioral model that encourages team work towards the attainment of common goals for the mutual benefits of all stakeholders. However, it has yet to be proven if it works over a long period of time. I am certain of one thing, it is better to have a stability model, and value stability seriously, than not at all. That is one among many reasons why DNotes is the most stable digital currency, relative to other cryptocurrencies.

What is MV=PQ. Let me attempt to make it a little easier to understand. It has something to do with the basic law of supply and demand, which we all have a fair understanding, but it is more than that. M is the supply of money, or increasing supply that is available, and V is the frequencies (velocity) it is used (spent). In other words, how much money is out there and how many times per year each dollar is spent.

The other side of the equation is about the price of product and services consumed and the total amount we spent on them during the year.

Digital currency, including Bitcoin, is still at its formative stage. We are still developing and laying down building blocks. At this stage of the game, a high dependence on the validity of the quantity theory of money is a mistake. Envision that digital currency at this stage is like a loaf of bread about to go into the oven. Critics who took a bit of the bread dough and argued that it does not taste like bread reminded me of Senator Joe Manchin’s demand to ban Bitcoin:   http://www.manchin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2014/2/manchin-demands-federal-regulators-ban-bitcoin

Digital currency is better than fiat currency. Our politicians need to start getting better informed. Good decisions are made based on a deep understanding of the subject matter not pure ignorance. We can count on technical and innovative solutions to make digital currency better than money, including replacing the costly outdated payment network systems and supplement our current banking and financial services industry to greatly improve efficiency and productivity. The major roadblocks are political and regulatory hurdles.

DNotesVault is a major building block we just laid. There will be many more to come.

To be continued
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nuff said, if you don't see what is simply printed above, then wait and see.
legendary
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Articles like this make me wonder how many other currencies have any idea how complex the issues are ahead of them, on the road to mainstream acceptance.  

"How 'Bitbanks' Could Solve Bitcoin's Volatility Problem"

http://www.coindesk.com/bitbanks-solve-bitcoins-volatility-problem/

Excellent link Chase. It was a very interesting abstract, I might even read the full work later on. I recently read this http://essay.utwente.nl/65677/1/Spenkelink_MA_MG.pdf in all of its 90 odd pages. It was quite interesting, but I didn't find any new material that most of us weren't already aware of, or solutions to the problems the crypto world must overcome that would help this community.

Myself, I'm less certain in the authors application of the "pretty" MV=PQ model for money demand. You see the author made no mention that the velocity of money means that the slower money transfers between accounts, the more of it will be required in the system to facilitate transactions.

Take for example your bank account and my bank account. If I wanted to send you some USD from my bank account, and our accounts were both in the US, I would expect the transaction to clear overnight into your account, meaning that money that could be travelling around the economy, is "stuck" in the system, and unusable until the time it clears. If I sent you $10, and you owed somebody else $10 that due on the same date, then instead of me sending you $10, and you then forwarding on that $10 to the next person instantly (a $10 velocity of money we can call it), the system would then require $20 (V = $20) to facilitate my payment to you, and your payment to the next person on the same night. This is all because of the "stuck" money.

In the digital currency realm this is completely different, I could transfer you 10 Dnotes, and you could send those same 10 Dnotes to the next person almost instantly, meaning we would only need 10 Dnotes in the system to facilitate our transactions, we essentially require half the amount of money in the system to facilitate the same transfer of value. This effect compounds the more transactions people make, so say a million bank transfers happen... well... we might then need 1 million times the money in the system to facilitate financial services, which means 1 million times the demand for additional units of dollars. Technically, one could argue that if everybody made transactions instantly, we would only really need say "1 Dnote x the maximum transaction amount in the entire system" to facilitate this value for "V" (Velocity). It would work in a similar manner to the "One-electron universe" theory put forward by Richard Feynman in 1940 that said that "all electrons and positrons are actually manifestations of a single entity moving backwards and forwards in time." For the crypto version, time was manipulated, but the blockchain can't go backwards like with the electron theory Smiley.

To me this is one reason why we don't actually need that many total coins in the crypto universe (especially since each and every unit of account like a Dnote, is divisible any which way. In the future we will require smaller units like "mini-notes" that are worth like... 1/100th of a Dnote or whatever). It is not possible to chop up your 20 dollar USD notes and expect them to be worth anything, there will always be enough Notes in existence for everybody in the world.  I hope I explained that okay. If anything, my thoughts above would suggest that there would be far less demand for notes due to "required velocity" if they are applied to the MV=PQ theory. I hope I've explained myself alright here, tried to give easy examples. I'm sure there are other people pondering the same thing out there, and one day we might come to some type of logical consensus. I'm not sold that V matters at all... yet. I also think people need to stop treating crypto economic theory in the same we have with our flawed fiat models!!!

My point here, is that the author made no mention that a crypto money supply wouldn't behave in the same way as a fiat one would. This fact is central to their argument of price volatility and demand for crypto, which I think would make their theory of money velocity incorrect. Those are just my thoughts anyway (but I'm not the one writing for coindesk ha!).

Other than that, the computer algorithms for changing money supply would be quite clever, so long as we don't have any type of "monetary policy" run by governments. When people hold onto their crypto in the expectation that it will appreciate, those coins are technically taken out of the system (since they will not be put onto exchanges or used to buy things), some would say that this would lead to an appreciation in a coins value because it pretty much works like monetary policy, where supply has been changed. I feel inclined to agree, but in this instance, I wouldn't attribute price changes as a result of the velocity ("V") part of the equation like coindesk authors seem to.

I think I've babbled enough, my writing has been interrupted before I got a chance to edit all the spots where I repeated myself and find all the insufficient explanations yadayada.

Hope everybody has a great Xmas. Thanks Dnotes team.

\


Thanks TeeGee.  That was a great explanation and I definitely learned a few things.  I have never thought about money being "stuck" in the system like that and I liked the way you explained it.  We will likely see most people attempting to compare the crypto money supply to fiat for quite some time, as you said, or at least until they figure out it doesn't work the same.

As far as the  "One-electron universe" theory put forward by Richard Feynman in 1940 that said that "all electrons and positrons are actually manifestations of a single entity moving backwards and forwards in time" part of your post goes, we'll have to save that for another day.  My head still hurts from son trying to explain quantum entanglement to me weeks ago!  Grin

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