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Will KYC be required for some people in order to activate their tokens and make them transferrable, or would that have taken place before the tokens were issued if it were necessary?


same question, anyone can answer this ?

I answered question about KYC 


What KYC info will be required to withdraw our coins?

"Direct Purchasers are required to activate the OAX for OTS issued by the Foundation’s
smart contract by completing the verification process to the satisfaction of the
Foundation. Such verification process includes but is not limited to Know-Your-Customer
(“KYC”) and anti-money laundering and counter-terrorist financing (“AML/CTF”) checks."

"when all KYC and AML/CTF verifications are deemed to have been
satisfied by the Direct Purchaser to the Foundation’s satisfaction.
This requires action to be undertaken by Direct Purchasers (as
stated below) and there is no assurance that verifications will
satisfactorily be completed swiftly or at all, depending on the
circumstances.

OAX Token Sale Information Memorandum.
https://www.openanx.org/en/assets/documents/openANX_Information_Memorandum_ENU.pdf

On practice KYC / AML will be done for very large payouts only.
The team is expecting to implement this to some people only, no more.


Here is the question from Phi on Telegram:

"i have a question from the audit report regarding kyc
 Initial post sale token transfers require prior KYC verification of the sender and some consideration needs to be given as to how KYC verification is enacted outside the contract. It is not entirely clear why these initial transfers are KYC encumbered though I’m told it may be a regulatory requirement. The KYC requirement will likely present as a disincentive for token purchase.  Many investors who may wish to remain anonymous may not realise this encumbrance exists.  Such cases could lead to protracted negative publicity toward the project and frustration on behalf of the investor.

 Token holding can become anonymous after the first transfer. KYC verification may make more sense when the owner wishes to redeem their OAX tokens for OpenANX governance powers though contract does not provide for this.

The token itself appears to have no intrinsic value apart from being redeemable for governance power with OpenANX. Lacking in intrinsic value and being burdened by KYC buy in requirements leaves a pessimistic view that the sale will be unattractive and the token may not perform well in the market. The 1 and 2 year locked tokens may be effectively worthless once they are unlocked leading to possible shortfalls in current and future funding.

While these opinions are beyond the scope of the code review, I feel they must be addressed and made public prior to the funding launch."
 is that summary above true?"


Also here is the answer from Dave Chapman:

"Hi Phi, and thanks for the question.  The Foundation has sought counsel from  law firms in Hong Kong and the United States as to the potential legality of conducting the token sale. As there are no established directives or clear polices from regulators, the Foundation has undertaken a prudent approach to conduct the token sale in compliance to relevant legislation and regulations. The counsel has recommended that the foundations complies with established KYC and AML standards and procedures to disincentivize the utilization of the token sale as a vehicle for money laundering or other illicit activity. All KYC information will be collected and maintained in accordance to strict data protection policies therefore the participants and the foundation will be in privity of the KYC information and a disclosure will only be made should it be required by a law enforcement agency as part of a regulatory or criminal investigation. The foundation believes, in openness and transparency and thus it is compelled to follow all relevant legislation and conduct the token sale with the highest level of integrity.  Please let me know if this helps."

https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@openanxteam
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An ERC20 token can be issued in greater number after it is locked?  I thought locking the supply prevented more from being issued.


You may check the OpenANX OAX Contract Code Review
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HBMY3v-_-JGZ9hzzcNYnyMyfQRukfetNifNUr57MW8g/edit

"An ERC20 token can be issued in greater number after it is locked?", "Locked or not?"
I'll pass these question to the tech specialists, will be back with answers.

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An ERC20 token can be issued in greater number after it is locked?  I thought locking the supply prevented more from being issued.

Will KYC be required for some people in order to activate their tokens and make them transferrable, or would that have taken place before the tokens were issued if it were necessary?

same question, anyone can answer this ?
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An ERC20 token can be issued in greater number after it is locked?  I thought locking the supply prevented more from being issued.

Will KYC be required for some people in order to activate their tokens and make them transferrable, or would that have taken place before the tokens were issued if it were necessary?
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This question has been answered before, but I'm still curious for an answer: the "value" of a token will be determined by the benefits from a token, such as voting rights on the platform. What the other rights will be is still unknown.

Why would people invest in tokens, if the "value" proposition is yet unclear?
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I thought the token supply was locked at 100,000,000.  The team can increase the supply if they want to?

Are the OAX we've received transferable currently?


1. "The pool of OAX has been allocated as follows, but may be adjusted at the Foundation’s discretion"
   3. TOTAL SUPPLY AND ALLOCATION OF OAX, Page 4 at Memorandum:
   https://www.openanx.org/en/assets/documents/openANX_Information_Memorandum_ENU.pdf
  
   Despite the "legal" possibility it's very unlikely to change.

2. Not yet transferable. The tokens will be activated (making them transferable) on or about 29th of July.

Thank you for the continued interest to the OAX platform, bitcoinrocks!)
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Since the minimum for the ICO is met is there any talk about ending the ICO early to make the coins more valuable then it is right now?

Once the ICO is over how will you guys bring more investors into your project? I hope that you guys advertise on the T.V's in China.


Thanks for the interest to the project, Visin!

1. The soft cap of 13M OAX has been met, that means that the openANX founders can conclude the token sale at their discretion.
 
2. The OAX foundation can work with the current raised amount. The additional token sale will happen on the prototype platform (Q2 2018).
Aside from the token sale, the company already have very valuable partners and will continue to work with them.

3. I hope too. Thanks for suggestion!
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Thanks for your reply. I see that you guys recommend 100.000+ gas with a Gwei of 60. How much ETH would that approximately be?  

EDIT: I can not select the amount of Gwei in MyEtherWallet, so I can't select 60 Gwei. Any suggestions?


Set it to 100,000 gas limit.

Have you found the slider? MEW updated and now it's situated at the right TOP corner.
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I thought the token supply was locked at 100,000,000.  The team can increase the supply if they want to?

Are the OAX we've received transferable currently?
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This is great news, 21,880,551.69 OAX has been sold.  Smiley

Since the minimum for the ICO is met is there any talk about ending the ICO early to make the coins more valuable then it is right now?

Once the ICO is over how will you guys bring more investors into your project? I hope that you guys advertise on the T.V's in China.
I think ICO is to bring investors into project.
How will they do it though? Since they have money to promote their project advertising it on the television or certain websites would bring more investors into openANX right? Once the ICO is over there is only so much that they can do since they hyped the coin through regular campaign advertising.
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This is great news, 21,880,551.69 OAX has been sold.  Smiley

Since the minimum for the ICO is met is there any talk about ending the ICO early to make the coins more valuable then it is right now?

Once the ICO is over how will you guys bring more investors into your project? I hope that you guys advertise on the T.V's in China.
I think ICO is to bring investors into project.
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Thanks for your reply. I see that you guys recommend 100.000+ gas with a Gwei of 60. How much ETH would that approximately be?  

EDIT: I can not select the amount of Gwei in MyEtherWallet, so I can't select 60 Gwei. Any suggestions?


1. http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/1518/ether-unit-converter-wei-finney-szabo-btc
    
   1 Gwei = 1/1 000 000 000 Ether
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Almost 70% of the 30,000,000 OAX are sold as shown in the website and I think it will be sold out in this weekend, if so, the signature campaign will be over just on this Sunday?
If all token get sold out early than signature also will ended early but that is bounty related question so into bounty thread you will get quicker response regarding this question.

I think if the tokens are not sold out this sunday and for example; all the tokens are sold in monday the campaign will continue till sunday I think the campaign will end at the week end where the tokens been sold out.

Thanks for the participation in the bounty, guys!
Watch for announcements from the openANX team in the Bounty thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/active-bountyann-oax-real-world-application-of-decentralized-exchanges-1947373


so the ICO is done for now?

No, the Token Sale is still going.
The clear announcements about any changes to the Bounty program will be posted at its thread.

Since the minimum for the ICO is met is there any talk about ending the ICO early to make the coins more valuable then it is right now?

Once the ICO is over how will you guys bring more investors into your project? I hope that you guys advertise on the T.V's in China.
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If I send ETH from MyEtherWallet, will the OAX tokens be transferred to my MyEtherWallet automatically (after some time)?

Thanks for the interest, Dvd1989!
You'll be able to view your OAX contribution and balance in MEW
Check the “How-to-Contribute” Guidebook for Users, How to Contribute to OAX from MEW starts on Page, 8:
https://www.openanx.org/en/assets/documents/openANX_User_Guide_ENU.pdf



Thanks for your reply. I see that you guys recommend 100.000+ gas with a Gwei of 60. How much ETH would that approximately be?  

EDIT: I can not select the amount of Gwei in MyEtherWallet, so I can't select 60 Gwei. Any suggestions?

Want to contribute..
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If I send ETH from MyEtherWallet, will the OAX tokens be transferred to my MyEtherWallet automatically (after some time)?

Thanks for the interest, Dvd1989!
You'll be able to view your OAX contribution and balance in MEW
Check the “How-to-Contribute” Guidebook for Users, How to Contribute to OAX from MEW starts on Page, 8:
https://www.openanx.org/en/assets/documents/openANX_User_Guide_ENU.pdf

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If I send ETH from MyEtherWallet, will the OAX tokens be transferred to my MyEtherWallet automatically (after some time)?
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Almost 70% of the 30,000,000 OAX are sold as shown in the website and I think it will be sold out in this weekend, if so, the signature campaign will be over just on this Sunday?
If all token get sold out early than signature also will ended early but that is bounty related question so into bounty thread you will get quicker response regarding this question.

I think if the tokens are not sold out this sunday and for example; all the tokens are sold in monday the campaign will continue till sunday I think the campaign will end at the week end where the tokens been sold out.

Thanks for the participation in the bounty, guys!
Watch for announcements from the openANX team in the Bounty thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/active-bountyann-oax-real-world-application-of-decentralized-exchanges-1947373


so the ICO is done for now?

No, the Token Sale is still going.
The clear announcements about any changes to the Bounty program will be posted at its thread.
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Almost 70% of the 30,000,000 OAX are sold as shown in the website and I think it will be sold out in this weekend, if so, the signature campaign will be over just on this Sunday?
If all token get sold out early than signature also will ended early but that is bounty related question so into bounty thread you will get quicker response regarding this question.

I think if the tokens are not sold out this sunday and for example; all the tokens are sold in monday the campaign will continue till sunday I think the campaign will end at the week end where the tokens been sold out.

Thanks for the participation in the bounty, guys!
Watch for announcements from the openANX team in the Bounty thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/active-bountyann-oax-real-world-application-of-decentralized-exchanges-1947373


so the ICO is done for now?
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slack invitation link anyone?
Try to contact the team and get invited, the invitation link doesn't work for some reason.

Here is the new invitation link to Slack, welcome:

https://join.slack.com/openanx/shared_invite/MjAyNDA2Mjc1MzYzLTE0OTgyMDk2MDktM2Y4NWU2YjFlMA
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Thanks for the question, adu1t!

Just go to the White Paper and CTRL+F - search "token".    
You'll find a lot of interesting info.

Page 18 - 5.1 Uses of OAX Tokens

"OAX is a token that can be exchanged for memberships in the DAO and/or its association.
Members will be entitled to certain privileges, including but not limited to voting privileges
on major operational decisions relating to the openANX platform."

Most valuable information that I found there is:
Members  are  not entitled  to  any  economic  rights  of  the  Foundation  at  any  time and  Memberships  do not entitle the holder to any distribution of profits nor any claim on any assets.

Everything else is just a bla-bla-bla, voting  privileges, bla-bla-bla, voting  privileges.
Who need these voting privileges on YOUR platform for such of money? People need profit, but you sell them pure air

Agreed, what a joke. I almost invested until I realized these tokens have next to no value.

Thanks for your opinion, guys!

1. "Members  are  not entitled  to  any  economic  rights" - Yes, you are right.  OAX token holders only get privileges of the memberships they own. It is not limited to only voting, ie: third party service provider membership grants ability to be service provider. Possibly something will be changed during the development, there are a lot of forces and deep minds are involved in the process and the platform just gets its final shape.

2. "People need profit", "no value" If you want to know if you'll make money if you'll invest, it's not something that the openANX team can talk about as staff. Ultimately, if people like the project idea, and can understand it now, they could get involved. Later, when a prototype will be able obviously there'll be more interest as people will be able to see what they're getting.

You can exchange OAX once it's tradable on exchanges ( July 29, or possibly earlier if the Token Sale will end sooner)

When the OAX platform will start to work there should be the increasing demand on Token and supply will be dwindling.
"The initial number of issued OAX Tokens is 100,000,000; as there is no planned
inflation, the number of outstanding tokens would be reduced over time as activity
on the openANX platform increases"
Project Deck, Page 23: https://www.openanx.org/en/assets/documents/openANX_Project%20Deck_ENU.pdf

The team is expecting that in the case of success the user base will grow exponentially. Nobody can predict the future though.
You can read more about the Metcalfe's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law

The main aim of the openANX team once the Token Sale will be finished is to concentrate on building a consortium of companies and platforms to integrate,
and the team will do this with the huge passion.

Only you to decide to be involved on the early stage, or later when the working prototype will be released, or just stay an observer.  Smiley
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