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August 13, 2011, 12:57:08 PM
My estimations are still holding! Calculated instant IXC difficulty (i.e. what the diff should be, based on hashrate) is ~29970 and current BTC difficulty is ~1890362:

(29970.85/(1890362/50*96))*0.68 ~= 0.0056 ~= the average sale price of IXC on ixchange.bitparking.com

I love it when I actually do my math correctly  Grin
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August 13, 2011, 12:42:20 PM
Difficulty @ 16384 now
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August 13, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
A friend of mine did the same thing he sent some ix coins to a bitcoin address and the coins were deducted and sent/converted to a different ixcoin address, how is that possible Huh Shouldnt the client have rejected the bitcoin address ? and where were the coins sent ? And can they be recovered ?

He can try to move the ixcoin wallet.dat, copy the bitcoin wallet.dat into the ixcoin directory... then sending the ixcoins back with the ixcoin client from the bitcoin wallet ^^

The coins were sent to a bitcoin address held by http://ixchange.bitparking.com/ exchanger. So I guess they are lost ?
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August 13, 2011, 11:48:41 AM
A friend of mine did the same thing he sent some ix coins to a bitcoin address and the coins were deducted and sent/converted to a different ixcoin address, how is that possible Huh Shouldnt the client have rejected the bitcoin address ? and where were the coins sent ? And can they be recovered ?

He can try to move the ixcoin wallet.dat, copy the bitcoin wallet.dat into the ixcoin directory... then sending the ixcoins back with the ixcoin client from the bitcoin wallet ^^
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August 13, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
Well sending ixcoins to a bitcoin address = fail. There goes 116 ixc into the ether.
You should be able to claim the ixcoins so long as you still have the private key that corresponds to that bitcoin address.

It worked. I copied my wallet.dat for the bitcoin address i sent ix coin to over to the ix coin directory and it recovered them.

So now i have one private key good for btc and ixc

A friend of mine did the same thing he sent some ix coins to a bitcoin address and the coins were deducted and sent/converted to a different ixcoin address, how is that possible Huh Shouldnt the client have rejected the bitcoin address ? and where were the coins sent ? And can they be recovered ?
newbie
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August 13, 2011, 10:26:10 AM
is there a webpage with the current difficulty yet?

the prices on https://ixchange.bitparking.com/main seem very high at the last difficulty levels I could find in this thread (4096, probably much higher now)

16K as of last check about half an hour ago.

If you're solo mining and therefore running the bitcoin program in daemon/server mode, you can get the info from command line by running "ixcoind getinfo"
legendary
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August 13, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
thanks to the OP for starting this great experiment. it is very healthy to test out everything that could hurt bitcoin as early as possible.

I think it will just freeze at a soon to come difficulty jump that makes mining ixcoins less profitable than mining bitcoins.

is there a webpage with the current difficulty yet?

the prices on https://ixchange.bitparking.com/main seem very high at the last difficulty levels I could find in this thread (4096, probably much higher now)

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
August 13, 2011, 10:16:00 AM
I find it interesting that if you search the term 'ixcoin' on this forum it finds not matching results yet an hour ago it worked fine and found lots of results?

It is call "forum censorship". The bitcoin early adopters don't like ixcoin for the most part because it is a competing block chain.

A good "product" doesn't fear competition... Maybe they know, BTC is not as good as they make us think? ;-)


Then that would explain moving ALL ixcoin posts on the main forum to here? And not namecoin's?
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August 13, 2011, 10:13:20 AM
I find it interesting that if you search the term 'ixcoin' on this forum it finds not matching results yet an hour ago it worked fine and found lots of results?

It is call "forum censorship". The bitcoin early adopters don't like ixcoin for the most part because it is a competing block chain.

A good "product" doesn't fear competition... Maybe they know, BTC is not as good as they make us think? ;-)
newbie
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August 13, 2011, 10:10:22 AM
I find it interesting that if you search the term 'ixcoin' on this forum it finds not matching results yet an hour ago it worked fine and found lots of results?

Since I get 9 pages of results from searching for 'ixcoin', maybe somebody requested that you be banned from searching for ixcoin? Cheesy
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
August 13, 2011, 10:04:37 AM
I find it interesting that if you search the term 'ixcoin' on this forum it finds not matching results yet an hour ago it worked fine and found lots of results?

It is call "forum censorship". The bitcoin early adopters don't like ixcoin for the most part because it is a competing block chain.
legendary
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August 13, 2011, 09:59:51 AM
I find it interesting that if you search the term 'ixcoin' on this forum it finds not matching results yet an hour ago it worked fine and found lots of results?
newbie
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August 13, 2011, 09:54:00 AM
Who knows what the eventual future of ixcoin is,  but really, I don't care.  I'm looking at this more like gambling... You can earn 'chips' with miners, or you can buy them with bitcoin.  Then you play them on the market (ixchange).  Then you win or lose.   I'm having quite a bit of fun playing - it's pretty addicting.

1. It's created a busy market involving the use of bitcoin.  Bitcoin needs as many uses as it can get.

2. Miners are being siphoned off to this - is that a bad thing?

3. So some guy modified a few lines of bitcoin and called it a new currency.  The guy who invented the pet rock made a killing too.  But he got some traction, and generated some interest.  Good for him.  Wish I would have done it.

4. It will never replace bitcoin.  It's not even a currency yet - nobody takes it except ixchange. (that I've seen).   Right now it's nothing more than casino chips that you can earn with miners or buy with bitcoin and play on ixchange.

I'm sure the created of ixcoin would not prefer to have it seen in this light, but it is what it is.  Maybe someday it'll catch on.  But I fail to see the downside as it is right now.  It's a fun distraction that provides yet another use for bitcoins.






legendary
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August 13, 2011, 09:16:00 AM
So, what about this? It's start to look beyond current computer and networking power?
legendary
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August 13, 2011, 08:27:37 AM
A high rate of invalid blocks is a good indication someone is manipulating the block chain. With such a small number of people mining it would be easy for one of the professional BTC miners to control 50%+ of the mining power and just ignore your blocks.
It's more to do with the fact that blocks are solved every few seconds due to the high network power vs the low difficulty, resulting in many blocks being solved by miners at approximately the same time and only one winning.
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August 13, 2011, 08:21:57 AM
What's up with the high rate of Rejected blocks?  In the beginning it wasn't that big of a deal, but now at current difficulty, it's frustrating finding a block only to have it rejected. Sad

A high rate of invalid blocks is a good indication someone is manipulating the block chain. With such a small number of people mining it would be easy for one of the professional BTC miners to control 50%+ of the mining power and just ignore your blocks.
newbie
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August 13, 2011, 07:14:26 AM
@Gavin

out of curiosity i ask myself how many ppl would be subscribed at that @metzdowd.com mailinglist ? can someone tell ?
Is Satoshi only talking to himself to have a reference of early publishing ?

whats a metzdowd ?

It's a public mailing list so any number of people could had been reading without being subscribed or posting. Only the list admin would know for sure how many subscribers the list actually has. Given that it appears to be active since 2001 until late 2010, I don't think Satoshi could had been talking only to himself in 2009.

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August 13, 2011, 06:42:02 AM
@Gavin

out of curiosity i ask myself how many ppl would be subscribed at that @metzdowd.com mailinglist ? can someone tell ?
Is Satoshi only talking to himself to have a reference of early publishing ?

whats a metzdowd ?

greetings
Couple of things:

First, I want to squash the "Satoshi mined a bunch of bitcoins on his own before releasing the bitcoin chain" idea.  He publicly announced bitcoin version 0.1 six days after he generated the genesis block: January 9, 2009:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg10142.html

According to the block chain history, he generated about 10 blocks total before the announcement.  And we know that he didn't pre-generate blocks because the genesis block contains a quote from the January 3rd Financial Times newspaper.

Second, I have no problem with alternative block chains, I just don't personally like how this particular alternative block chain is being promoted and developed and introduced. In particular, I think it is unfair to keep hundreds of thousands of whatever-coins for yourself, and it is unwise to think that a bitcoin variation that is "almost exactly like bitcoin, only different because... well, just because" will ever have anything more than speculative value.

hero member
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August 13, 2011, 05:05:26 AM
no matter what you tell them, they don't listen

Is there need for a concerted effort to manipulate or control behavior of one or more existences perhaps due to unacceptance of such activities, participations or behaviorisms by yourself or anyone else?  e.g. "be, do, think, etc. like us (read 'me') or we (each individual to various extents/degrees, eventually 'giving up' or whatever) will annoy, nag, pester you neverendingly/indefinitely?"  Is this normal?  Do you liek cake?

If there is such a need, then by all means, continue propagating and repeating such efforts similarly as everyone else continues propagating their own efforts and natural phenomenon will continue as usual.

hint: many people still blatantly refuse and strongly oppose, fight and resist bitcoin, decrying it as scam, etc.  Effort towards providing informations to them is similarly obnoxiously annoying and overwhelmingly useless.  If they do not understasnd or accept initially, then repeating yourself may result in establishing strong conflict and negative energy/experiences with such individuals.  Let them fail, die, make poor choices, etc.  One person's trash is another's treasure.  One person's scam is another's (opposite of scam).
sr. member
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August 13, 2011, 02:21:38 AM
as it is now, i will never accept ixcoin as payment, i don't feel the need to mine it either, nor do i want to argue this matter anymore, it seems that this situation is no different, no matter what you tell them, they don't listen, so i am just wasting my breath.
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