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CumpsD
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
#645
Quote from: wizkid057 on May 27, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 02:35:58 PM
I don't have any easy way to measure actual current use.

Grab a cheap USB extension cable (male and female ends), and a cheap multi-meter with mA measuring capability.  Slice the sheath of the extension cable somewhere in the middle, but don't break any wires.  Get the wires nice and separate, then cut the red wire.  Strip both new ends, and put one to each lead of your multi-meter in mA mode. (You can safely hold the exposed wires... its only 5V  Wink )

Fire it all up, and look at the reading. Smiley

-wk

Don't break any wires is good advice, I wasted an USB cable :p
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
#644
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 02:35:58 PM
I don't have any easy way to measure actual current use.

Grab a cheap USB extension cable (male and female ends), and a cheap multi-meter with mA measuring capability.  Slice the sheath of the extension cable somewhere in the middle, but don't break any wires.  Get the wires nice and separate, then cut the red wire.  Strip both new ends, and put one to each lead of your multi-meter in mA mode. (You can safely hold the exposed wires... its only 5V  Wink )

Fire it all up, and look at the reading. Smiley

-wk
Luke-Jr
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 02:35:58 PM
#643
Quote from: ?? on ??
1/4" that is slim!!!
They should fit into power bar hubs and leave some gap for air flow, right?
I'm not sure how much thickness the heatsink adds, however.

Quote from: ?? on ??
Can you measure the current draw?  It is ok to put one in the 2.0 hub, but 10 might be too much for most 2.0 hubs as they usually don't deliver more than 20W (4A@5V) from their power supplies.
It reports 100mA to the USB interface, but I'm sure it's really closer to the 560mA friedcat announced.
I don't have any easy way to measure actual current use.
Luke-Jr
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 02:06:09 PM
#642
Quote from: SilentSonicBoom on May 27, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
________________MeasurementTonalImperialSI
Thickness: 9 Mˢ0.23in6mm
Width: 29 Mˢ1in25mm
Length: 68 Mˢ2.4in60mm
Length protruding from USB port: 5 Mˢ2.1in53mm
Length of PCB: 4 Mˢ1.8in45mm
Are these dimensions of the sample USB emerald version or the final sapphire version? Thank you.
Emerald. My Sapphire isn't here yet.
SilentSonicBoom
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
#641
Are these dimensions of the sample USB emerald version or the final sapphire version? Thank you.

Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: ?? on ??
Can you measure the thickness of the board+sink?

Also, how wide is the board?
________________MeasurementTonalImperialSI
Thickness: 9 Mˢ0.23in6mm
Width: 29 Mˢ1in25mm
Length: 68 Mˢ2.4in60mm
Length protruding from USB port: 5 Mˢ2.1in53mm
Length of PCB: 4 Mˢ1.8in45mm

Quote from: ?? on ??
You running it off 2.0 or 3.0 port?
The device negotiates as USB 1.1, plugged into my USB 2.0 hub.

HTML5 Gordon
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
#640
Quote from: Xian01 on May 27, 2013, 01:50:02 PM
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
Without an adapter, you cannot plug USB 1.1/2.0 devices into USB 3.0 ports.

LOLWUT ?!

Looks like I've been doing this wrong all this time!  I better go an disconnect all my USB 2.0 devices that are plugged into USB 3.0 ports!   Shocked

Edit:  just saw Luke's post while I was responding.  No harm, no foul.  Wink
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 01:57:01 PM
#639
Quote from: Rampion on May 27, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: ?? on ??
You running it off 2.0 or 3.0 port?
The device negotiates as USB 1.1, plugged into my USB 2.0 hub.
Without an adapter, you cannot plug USB 1.1/2.0 devices into USB 3.0 ports.

Excuse me?Huh
Yeah, nevermind that... I was looking at some other kind of port the whole time.
My USB 3.0 ports are occupied by keyboard/mouse so I didn't see them >_<
Now I'm curious what these other ports are Shocked

Edit: Apparently my motherboard has 2 eSATA ports I wasn't aware of Cheesy
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
#638
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: ?? on ??
You running it off 2.0 or 3.0 port?
The device negotiates as USB 1.1, plugged into my USB 2.0 hub.
Without an adapter, you cannot plug USB 1.1/2.0 devices into USB 3.0 ports.

Excuse me?Huh
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 01:50:02 PM
#637
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 27, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
Without an adapter, you cannot plug USB 1.1/2.0 devices into USB 3.0 ports.

LOLWUT ?!
Luke-Jr
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
#636
Quote from: ?? on ??
Can you measure the thickness of the board+sink?

Also, how wide is the board?
________________MeasurementTonalImperialSI
Thickness: 9 Mˢ0.23in6mm
Width: 29 Mˢ1in25mm
Length: 68 Mˢ2.4in60mm
Length protruding from USB port: 5 Mˢ2.1in53mm
Length of PCB: 4 Mˢ1.8in45mm

Quote from: ?? on ??
You running it off 2.0 or 3.0 port?
The device negotiates as USB 1.1, plugged into my USB 2.0 hub.
Luke-Jr
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 12:53:01 PM
#635
Quote from: mc_lovin on May 27, 2013, 12:45:56 PM
You make it sound like BFGMiner is some sort of original product?  Didn't you just fork his code and then now you are bashing the original devs?
BFGMiner is based on cgminer-the-GPU-miner which is based on cpuminer.
Present day cgminer is a fork of BFGMiner, created by trolls for trolling.
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 27, 2013, 12:45:56 PM
#634
Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 26, 2013, 04:04:44 AM
Quote from: kano on May 26, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
Please be wary of other software where they don't tell you these required options or don't have a release that works with it yet.
BFGMiner doesn't require those options, just -S all (or specify the specific COM port).
The only reason there isn't a BFGMiner 3.1.0 release yet is actually because of a cgminer screwup that you probably don't even know exists.

Quote from: kano on May 26, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
The next release of cgminer will automatically handle it without any options required and it will also handle you being able to just plug it in while cgminer is already running.
You can also start cgminer with no devices and then plug it in and it will start mining with it.
But all this.. only if you manually install a non-standard driver for it.

Quote from: kano on May 26, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
cgminer, the original USB miner and the best.
More outright lies. No surprise coming from Kano.

You make it sound like BFGMiner is some sort of original product?  Didn't you just fork his code and then now you are bashing the original devs? 
dodegkr
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
#633
it does default to cgminer.
i tried bfgminer on day 2 of mining with 21% rejects on some cm1's, cgminer so far 0%

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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 07:35:20 AM
#632
I believe MinePeon defaults to cgminer, if I am not mistaken...
LogicalUnit
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 07:12:51 AM
#631
Thank you for the replies. I guess there are mixed opinions on the topic. The reason I ask is that I will be using PeonMiner on my Raspberry Pi, which includes both cgminer and bfgminer. Now that I know both miners support the new Block Erupter hardware, I'll just have to try both -- but the plug-n-play feature of cgminer makes it very attractive. Smiley
kano
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 04:28:17 AM
#630
Quote from: CumpsD on May 26, 2013, 04:26:04 AM
Children, don't you ever get tired?
I guess he doesn't, I only replied to LogicalUnit who asked the question Tongue
(and in my case explained cgminer usage and versions as I'm sure would be helpful to LogicalUnit)
CumpsD
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 04:26:04 AM
#629
Children, don't you ever get tired?
Luke-Jr
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 04:04:44 AM
#628
Quote from: kano on May 26, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
Please be wary of other software where they don't tell you these required options or don't have a release that works with it yet.
BFGMiner doesn't require those options, just -S all (or specify the specific COM port).
The only reason there isn't a BFGMiner 3.1.0 release yet is actually because of a cgminer screwup that you probably don't even know exists.

Quote from: kano on May 26, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
The next release of cgminer will automatically handle it without any options required and it will also handle you being able to just plug it in while cgminer is already running.
You can also start cgminer with no devices and then plug it in and it will start mining with it.
But all this.. only if you manually install a non-standard driver for it.

Quote from: kano on May 26, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
cgminer, the original USB miner and the best.
More outright lies. No surprise coming from Kano.
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
#627
Quote from: LogicalUnit on May 26, 2013, 03:19:18 AM
Hello, I'm a newbie and I have a question: which of cgminer and bfgminer is better to use with Block Erupter USB?

Thanks
Currently cgminer 3.1.1 supports the Block Erupter USB perfectly with the options:
 --icarus-options 115200:1:1 --icarus-timing 3.0=100
You also need to specify the USB device with a -S COM1 or a -S /dev/ttyUSB1
(and set the number 1 with the correct value)

Please be wary of other software where they don't tell you these required options or don't have a release that works with it yet.

The next release of cgminer will automatically handle it without any options required and it will also handle you being able to just plug it in while cgminer is already running.
You can also start cgminer with no devices and then plug it in and it will start mining with it.

cgminer, the original USB miner and the best.
Luke-Jr
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Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB
May 26, 2013, 03:29:28 AM
#626
Quote from: LogicalUnit on May 26, 2013, 03:19:18 AM
Hello, I'm a newbie and I have a question: which of cgminer and bfgminer is better to use with Block Erupter USB?
BFGMiner is much better in general - it supports nearly everything cgminer does, plus more bugfixes and enhancements. Smiley
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