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Topic: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) - page 28. (Read 78486 times)

legendary
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September 08, 2014, 10:26:35 AM
When should be ready the wallet?
sr. member
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September 08, 2014, 10:18:06 AM
guys
sorry for my question))

i completed "Proof of Aktion"

how i will have to tell my wallet address ?

thk

You can either get a wallet address at Omniwallet.org or at c-cex.  Payouts won't begin until C-Cex unfreezes everything.

Chris

It's been days and the C-cex wallet addres still does not generate ... :/
Don't the devs care about that?

Of course we care, and are trying to get a hold of C-cex.  The fact is, when you are dealing with third parties, you have no control over them.  We cannot do anything but ask c-cex to work on OUR problem, as they try to attend to the problems of everyone using their site.  On the one hand we wanted to have them hold the coins and handle transactions to appease the community's desire that we aren't holding all the coins, but now when there is a problem with C-Cex, we can only wait until we get their attention.  They have limited funds/resources, and this is the crux of the problem with cryptos, as everyone is asking that people do work for nearly free, meanwhile they don't have the resources to attend to everything.  I apologize for the delay, but we are doing everything within or power to get them to work on the issue.

beyond cryptocurrency in addition to other things

according to what if seen tabali talkinging about in cex chat

coinproz dipping into PORN

is this in the sites of the proz crew

hopefully its no larry in it i hope

pornproz?
Shocked

NSFW link 18+:  

http://vosamour.com/


While the pornography aspect will NOT be the central part of the Coin Proz campaign, to ignore the pornography market as a potential for increasing usage/outreach of cryptocurrency is a HUGE mistake we believe.  On the one hand, people may have value judgements against "pornography", but as an adult I have no problem asserting that I am a supporter of classy pornography.  I also understand that some parts of the global population aren't okay with it, so putting it alongside the rest of the Coin Proz partners may deter some, so making it part of the main platform is not necessarily the best way to reach "everyone".  It is still a work in progress, so that is why no formal announcements about it have been made.




Chris
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September 08, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
guys
sorry for my question))

i completed "Proof of Aktion"

how i will have to tell my wallet address ?

thk

You can either get a wallet address at Omniwallet.org or at c-cex.  Payouts won't begin until C-Cex unfreezes everything.

Chris

It's been days and the C-cex wallet addres still does not generate ... :/
Don't the devs care about that?
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 10:12:51 AM
beyond cryptocurrency in addition to other things

according to what if seen tabali talkinging about in cex chat

coinproz dipping into PORN

is this in the sites of the proz crew

hopefully its no larry in it i hope

pornproz?
Shocked
sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
some promotions and articles?

http://thecoinfront.com/want-to-get-paid-to-learn-about-bitcoin-theres-an-alt-for-that/

http://thecoinfront.com/proto-dynamism-death-of-the-middle-man/

We are going to run a PoA campaign for Left Turn Only TV soon, so if you want to go start checking out their production reels and webseries, you will see how we are going to start making a push into media beyond cryptocurrency in addition to other things.  We will have more official announcements ready when those are to come.  Some very good things happening Smiley

https://twitter.com/LeftTurnOnlyTV

http://leftturnonlytv.tv/


Also stay updated with the Mastercoin team here:

http://blog.mastercoin.org/category/development/


Chris
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 08:29:52 PM
some promotions and articles?
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 08:01:39 PM
scott here
captain the engine wallet
its the kilingon crystals i can yet get them tuned
scott out
member
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September 07, 2014, 07:36:36 PM
I recieved the email from the PoA Test! Time to look up my address on c-cex  Grin

EDIT: I can't seem to get an address out of c-cex. I went to balance, and get new address, but still nothing
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 07:31:19 PM
they are working on it
i can hear noise in the background sounds louder thsan santas workshop Grin
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 07:27:24 PM
Grin

hope bittrex may add this later.

At first we need wallet and giveaway to be completed and then going to other exchanges.


so wallet is the most important thing now.
hero member
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September 07, 2014, 06:57:30 PM
Grin

hope bittrex may add this later.

At first we need wallet and giveaway to be completed and then going to other exchanges.
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sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 12:21:26 PM
Yes, I truly apologize for any miscommunication. 


We are working on a ton of things right now, but anyone with questions can hit me up on skype Larry.Christopher.Bates


Chris
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 11:51:10 AM
 Grin

hope bittrex may add this later.
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 10:47:18 AM
First off I'm not going to address each and every point in this post as there was quite a bit of involvement and discussion already. I will say thanks for all the constructive feedback and at time criticism. You are asking real questions, which in the end is the kind of thing that we want, community involvement and honest feedback / suggestions.

And thank you for your this constructive response!  I particularly appreciate that you understand and acknowledge that I am not just another troll/"FUDster" but am actually just a critical supporter of your project.  I want nothing more than for an actual "PoA" initiative (something that has been discussed in the Bitcoin community for ages but has, as yet, failed to really materialize) to form, here!

Heavy, though, is the subject of proofs.  It is absolutely critical that if (when!) a working PoA model does emerge here it be logically and philosophically sound, before all else.  I sincerely hope everyone on your team both understands this necessity, and takes it deeply to heart.

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I would like to bring to light some of the things that are coming though.

First off, We will have a block chain. We will not exclusively rely on the masterprotocol nor the BTCitcoin blockchain (although I'm still working out the details on using the bitcoin blockchain a tiny bit [really exciting stuff happening there])

I think it may ultimately end up hindering the project some that it was launched before that block-chain was ready, but there is nothing to be done about that now.  However, I think it is absolutely critical that you get this to fruition immediately.  Everything else should be at a dead stop until the proof of proof of action is ready for the world.  (We need to really see if the world is ready for it, and ASAP!)

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We will have distributed proof with verifiable / anonymous statistics, agreed upon via decentralized consensus nodes. this chain will work within your browser via plugins for chrome / firefox or via a similar but not cloned bitcoin-qt client. This client / plugin + chain system will make cheating difficult. The algorithm will change transparently to allow for anti cheat measures.

You will want to make sure to have a stand-alone wallet.  Some people avoid browser plugins either as a matter of preference or of policy.  Further, browser plugins are less amenable to static analysis processes, and often carry broader assumptions over "surface area" of the system.  Maintain a "K.I.S.S." version.  I wasn't kidding when I said I have SMT solvers waiting for you.  Wink  In the end, I want to be able to (reasonably) easily assert something like "assuming historical growth trends continue, and the network coordinates a series of "this, that, then the other" particular action sequences, network participation should grow within the bounds of MIN% to MAX% and it will cost the network a subsidy distribution that breaks down as....."

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I also want to clarify that PoA is not incentivized marketing.

Ideally, it should be "incentivized anything" right?

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Our genesis was a proof of concept like has been mentioned before and the participants (Once anti cheat is taken into account) will be rewarded handsomely. Also noteworthy is that the technology used for Genesis is 3rd party and not what will ultimately power our platform.

I think it is important to clarify and educate as to the fact that this proof of concept was not a proof of the concept of proof of action. (Whew, that's a mouthful!  I hope that was not too hard to follow?  Wink)  I think it is important to make sure that people understand what proof of action actually means, why it hasn't yet been demonstrated, how your average Joe can know when it has been, and what that will actually mean for his world.  Not only is this critical because people now hold stake in the project, but because that will be the most direct route to introducing the value proposition to others!

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An important thing to keep in mind when trying to understand or explain PoA is the quality modifiers. The participants and holders of the tokens are encouraged to upvote, judge quality, edit and contribute to the definition of what should be rewarded. @HunterMinerCrafter you would have earned a decent amount by your participation in this thread. I might even (if this were on our platform and not on a third party) tip you some of my own coin in order to make your reward larger.

Hehe.  I would hope.  If it works, my long-winded rants could become quite valuable some day?

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I hate to even suggest it, but I can't speak for the whole so it *Might* be the case that the majority of people reward bad spelling, anti semitic remarks & overall nastiness. I doubt this will be the case and I will do my best to put the tools in the people's hands that *do* care about quality and collaboration so that their voices are heard.

My better half, in our discussions of Proz and similar initiatives, believes that It probably will become the case of overall nastiness.  She feels you are likely just building a better Reddit.  She says it will not be "what I would want."  Time will tell, but the important and immediate concern is not that but is trying it at all.  (Doing so correctly, with my SMT solver coming back SAT/UNSAT over chain constraints.)

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One of the great things about working with Mastercoin is where they are in their development plan. They have been building the foundation upon which a multitude of new features are being built. We will support many of these features by default from the day of release (sometimes earlier)
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~ 2-3 weeks PoA features deeply integrated into our platform

I think it is fine that Proz is built on Mastercoin "for now."  However, Mastercoin is not Prozcoin, and those developments are independent.  It is great that there is overlap in the effort and personnel, but Prozcoin needs to prove Prozcoin protocol, Master protocol is it's own thing with it's own threads of discourse elsewhere.

Again, thank you for your constructive response.  I felt that I was getting nowhere with @ProzCoin and not even an indication that he understood my definition of QED.  Now, at least, I have some assurance that there is at least someone on the team who might understand and admit that what has happened to date is no proof, and might start to give indication on how we are to get there.  Now we just need the implementation defined and executed, so get to work!  Smiley
full member
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September 07, 2014, 10:40:20 AM
spoke to support in the trollbox on c-cex regarding coins sent from the omniwallet accounts not being available:

"Gridcoiner: @OriginalChilli, have informed the tech team about it, should be resolved soon I hope"

sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 10:35:23 AM
dont forget the mining thing
its gonna be a few weeks

i see some early adopters have sold under ipo price
is this something that our providers have expected

 Cool

Oh, we haven't forgotten.


Chris
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 10:08:18 AM
dont forget the mining thing
its gonna be a few weeks

i see some early adopters have sold under ipo price
is this something that our providers have expected
sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
Office hours will be held at 12 PM today if anyone has questions.


Larry.Christopher.Bates on Skype.


Chris


When will we have a wallet?

I know Shannon is working on the Masterchest, but I am not positive about a date of release, but he had it listed as within weeks. 


Chris
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