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Topic: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) - page 4. (Read 78486 times)

uki
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^^
well, I have been asking this question for the last six weeks. Happy to listen if dev team has any precise answer and not the blah blah blah we have heard so far.
legendary
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So whats happening now for Prozcoin? Any plans laid out for 2015?
sr. member
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What a plan for the future. I hope dev will have a roadmap
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Tim Frost is quickly becoming one of the leading marketing gurus and crowdfunding strategists in Crypto.  His profile within the crypto community is gaining more and more respect with every project that looks to him for help.  The Providence Project is quickly gaining momentum with media coverage, and looks to potentially rival Ethereum concerning scale.

Chris
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[...]

The MAIN MISSION of this project was to accelerate mass adoption of crypto currency, and that is EXACTLY what we are doing, and doing a damn good job of it.

Chris

Let me disagree on that. I believe, and that is what I wrote in my mail to you, that PROZ project is actually failing in two aspects, what multiple questions in this thread prove to some extent, namely:

- simplicity - referring to both general and more detailed level: starting with the project structure and other co-related projects that may affect PROZ, but for now it was completely unclear in what way and why PROZ should benefit from them, and then through all the steps finishing at the very bottom of the structure with: (a) wallet concept, why not having a dedicated qt wallet, and how to use the other wallets instead, and what are the security risks (please check this BTT topic how much of these questions were popping up since the project start), (b) blockchain explorer, and how to perform transaction checks.
- understanding of the project goals - I bet that having more simple and transparent project structure will bring more understanding to your actions across the board and will help to fight with FUDers and lack of interest we have in last two months.

as for the communication channels, I think that having IRC or Slack channel would be of great benefit, too. As far as I see it, most of the users here may prefer this form of communication.

Our approach was that a "desktop QT" while accepted by first adopters of bitcoin is clearly not a solution conducive to mass adoption.  A desktop QT is available, however the  compiling takes ten minutes, and this was not acceptable by many.  Unfortunately, you are dealing with people with real lives, and while it would be great to get them to work further on projects, they need funding.  It is not fair to them to ask them to do something for free when that was not what they had set out to do.  

We built a forum, and the issue is that while many people have their habits, it is not going to build traffic through our site if we continually drive our traffic elsewhere.

Our site has been down because it is being rebuilt, as clearly the community has not responded well to it.  

Let me disagree on that. I believe, and that is what I wrote in my mail to you, that PROZ project is actually failing in two aspects

It has been openly addressed that the community has not been following the Proz team whatsoever beyond this thread.



Chris
uki
legendary
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[...]

The MAIN MISSION of this project was to accelerate mass adoption of crypto currency, and that is EXACTLY what we are doing, and doing a damn good job of it.

Chris

Let me disagree on that. I believe, and that is what I wrote in my mail to you, that PROZ project is actually failing in two aspects, what multiple questions in this thread prove to some extent, namely:

- simplicity - referring to both general and more detailed level: starting with the project structure and other co-related projects that may affect PROZ, but for now it was completely unclear in what way and why PROZ should benefit from them, and then through all the steps finishing at the very bottom of the structure with: (a) wallet concept, why not having a dedicated qt wallet, and how to use the other wallets instead, and what are the security risks (please check this BTT topic how much of these questions were popping up since the project start), (b) blockchain explorer, and how to perform transaction checks.
- understanding of the project goals - I bet that having more simple and transparent project structure will bring more understanding to your actions across the board and will help to fight with FUDers and lack of interest we have in last two months.

as for the communication channels, I think that having IRC or Slack channel would be of great benefit, too. As far as I see it, most of the users here may prefer this form of communication.
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Chris,

What is up with http://www.coinproz.com/ ? It has been down for over a week.
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do you have any plans to provide revenue for people who invested? it seems like you are doing a lot, but how can it translate to something positive for the holders of your coin?
that is exactly my point. ICO was sold at 300 satoshi and users who bought it, myself included, are wondering whether at all we can get back somewhere close to that price, with the price currently not even sitting at 10% of the ICO price. Having good intentions and working hard is one thing, having bad information policy is the other. In the end of the day, thanks to these early investors who bought the ICO, the Dev team is able to realise their project at all, so in that sense these investors deserve a fair treat and prompt and exhaustive progress information (saying we are working hard is not sufficient). It shouldn't be a big deal to pop up in this thread, say once a week, and post some bullet points on the most recent developments, or am I asking too much?

PS. there is a maintenance currently ongoing on C-Cex. Do we now more details about it, how long it will last, etc.?


So, one of the big issues from the very beginning was that we wanted to create a buyback reserve so that people not invested in Prozcoin would not be able to short sell and drive down the price.  There was outrage against this proposition from the beginning, and while I tried to argue from the beginning that a buyback reserve is necessary, it "seemed" at the time that the "community" was saying that was a bad idea, however in retrospect I hope people realize many that asserted a buyback reserve was a bad idea were also those FUDDING the thread.

Meanwhile, we had released a planned schedule for development, which was exactly what the funds were used on.  Shannon went above and beyond what was planned, to the point of working beyond budget to meet milestones.  I established office hours, and gave out e-mail addresses so that we can be contacted at ANY time beyond "this thread".  We established a website to host a forum about our progress, yet "investors" expect us to come here to report.  That makes no sense.  In fact, that means the "investors" are actively not supporting the project by not moving traffic about "Prozcoin" to the "CoinProz" site.  

do you have any plans to provide revenue for people who invested? it seems like you are doing a lot, but how can it translate to something positive for the holders of your coin?

First off, it is illegal to pay dividends on "tokens", and many coins that have done that are potentially in legal trouble.  We have been working EXTREMELY hard to establish our team as a leader in the crypto-community, and beyond "this thread" it is working.  If "the market" is not responding to our work, that is completely out of our control.

As far as C-cex, it looks as if they are doing maintenance on Mastercoin, and it may take them a couple days to sync their blockchain.  

Ultimately, if we can start generating enough revenue, we will establish a buyback reserve.

The MAIN MISSION of this project was to accelerate mass adoption of crypto currency, and that is EXACTLY what we are doing, and doing a damn good job of it.

Chris
uki
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ok, but what does it have to do with PROZ coin? PROZ is not even mentioned in this article. How someone reading this article will link these two projects?
Are PROZ coins directly exchangeable to GEMS tokens?
member
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Where the ProzCoin wallet?
I buy some coin from c-cex, then i want to move it to my wallet (not wallet in the exchanger) but here no wallet link to download.
I do not trust the online wallet, i'm afraid of losing my coins at any time if there is a problem in c-cex like cryptorush, mintpal, etc.

Nothing!
In here, if you want to own wallet, you have to compile it yourself!

Meaning what? i don't understand  Huh

Ask the dev  Grin

What? Anybody to help?

You can use the Omniwallet here:
https://www.omniwallet.org/

Or you can get the Mastercore wallet here:

https://github.com/mastercoin-MSC/mastercore/releases/tag/v0.0.6
full member
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Where the ProzCoin wallet?
I buy some coin from c-cex, then i want to move it to my wallet (not wallet in the exchanger) but here no wallet link to download.
I do not trust the online wallet, i'm afraid of losing my coins at any time if there is a problem in c-cex like cryptorush, mintpal, etc.

Nothing!
In here, if you want to own wallet, you have to compile it yourself!

Meaning what? i don't understand  Huh

Ask the dev  Grin

What? Anybody to help?
hero member
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Merit: 1000
「きみはこれ&#
Where the ProzCoin wallet?
I buy some coin from c-cex, then i want to move it to my wallet (not wallet in the exchanger) but here no wallet link to download.
I do not trust the online wallet, i'm afraid of losing my coins at any time if there is a problem in c-cex like cryptorush, mintpal, etc.

Nothing!
In here, if you want to own wallet, you have to compile it yourself!

Meaning what? i don't understand  Huh

Ask the dev  Grin
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Where the ProzCoin wallet?
I buy some coin from c-cex, then i want to move it to my wallet (not wallet in the exchanger) but here no wallet link to download.
I do not trust the online wallet, i'm afraid of losing my coins at any time if there is a problem in c-cex like cryptorush, mintpal, etc.

Nothing!
In here, if you want to own wallet, you have to compile it yourself!

Meaning what? i don't understand  Huh
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
「きみはこれ&#
Where the ProzCoin wallet?
I buy some coin from c-cex, then i want to move it to my wallet (not wallet in the exchanger) but here no wallet link to download.
I do not trust the online wallet, i'm afraid of losing my coins at any time if there is a problem in c-cex like cryptorush, mintpal, etc.

Nothing!
In here, if you want to own wallet, you have to compile it yourself!
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
December 15, 2014, 05:33:44 AM
Where the ProzCoin wallet?
I buy some coin from c-cex, then i want to move it to my wallet (not wallet in the exchanger) but here no wallet link to download.
I do not trust the online wallet, i'm afraid of losing my coins at any time if there is a problem in c-cex like cryptorush, mintpal, etc.
uki
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
cryptojunk bag holder
December 15, 2014, 04:39:26 AM
do you have any plans to provide revenue for people who invested? it seems like you are doing a lot, but how can it translate to something positive for the holders of your coin?
that is exactly my point. ICO was sold at 300 satoshi and users who bought it, myself included, are wondering whether at all we can get back somewhere close to that price, with the price currently not even sitting at 10% of the ICO price. Having good intentions and working hard is one thing, having bad information policy is the other. In the end of the day, thanks to these early investors who bought the ICO, the Dev team is able to realise their project at all, so in that sense these investors deserve a fair treat and prompt and exhaustive progress information (saying we are working hard is not sufficient). It shouldn't be a big deal to pop up in this thread, say once a week, and post some bullet points on the most recent developments, or am I asking too much?

PS. there is a maintenance currently ongoing on C-Cex. Do we now more details about it, how long it will last, etc.?
hero member
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December 15, 2014, 04:23:43 AM
It is unfortunate that many people have spent so much time trying to FUD instead of following up with us.  We have been working with some extremely awesome projects that are removed from "coins", and there has been so much development in the scene that we have been helping with.  We have been doing EXACTLY what we set out to do concerning advancing education of blockchain technology, and have had nothing but FUD accusations.  As far as I'm concerned, there are many who people should be apologizing for slander.  I apologize to people in the community who suffered because some immature trolls decided to try and lump us in with everyone else.  In many ways, we are busier than ever.  



Chris

do you have any plans to provide revenue for people who invested? it seems like you are doing a lot, but how can it translate to something positive for the holders of your coin?
sr. member
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December 13, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
It is unfortunate that many people have spent so much time trying to FUD instead of following up with us.  We have been working with some extremely awesome projects that are removed from "coins", and there has been so much development in the scene that we have been helping with.  We have been doing EXACTLY what we set out to do concerning advancing education of blockchain technology, and have had nothing but FUD accusations.  As far as I'm concerned, there are many who people should be apologizing for slander.  I apologize to people in the community who suffered because some immature trolls decided to try and lump us in with everyone else.  In many ways, we are busier than ever.  



Chris
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December 13, 2014, 06:34:28 PM
Pretty sure anyone fudding the thread is not invested in prozcoin.

Yes, we have been extremely busy.  Not one person has attempted to contact me about anything prozcoin/coinproz related beyond this thread, so if you are looking to this thread for updates, it is not really the main point of information distribution.  The website is being reworked because of feedback we received from community.

Chris
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