Topic: [ANN]PECULIUM - First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI - page 89. (Read 66431 times)
quite nice discussion, just because someone has invested 46 btc. That's just under 550,000 euros at the moment. When investing in a company, hoping for big profits, that's not much (if you have a lot of money)
There is little profit in traditional forms of investment, he probably expects a big return like us every year. And I'm sure he gets a lot of returns, thank AIEVE :-)
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
I do agree with you,is his personal business, who knows, maybe he's not just coming in as the usual investor, i believe the deal must be done behind close doors because that'ts really a huge investment and he must have known how to go go about it in a manner that he won't have to loose, come to to think of it, if someone can put in that much, there are two things involved, he has more, secondly, something outstanding must have made him do so, this speaks a lot about peculium
Is this kind of huge investments are surprising for you if the ICO is of very high quality? I dont think so. But I agree with you. This should have done behind the closed doors for better positioning of him/herself. btw, is this real or this is just for argument sake?
If I had that kind of money, I would go through private sale indeed and ask for a discount. It is kind of hard to believe for me that someone invested 46 bitcoins...
Yea right. Spending that much of bitcoin giving the current price of bitcoin after the private sale is over now is kind of a lot of fact to process and believe. But looking at it from another angle, if he didn't trust the project he won't spend that much. Right?
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
I do agree with you,is his personal business, who knows, maybe he's not just coming in as the usual investor, i believe the deal must be done behind close doors because that'ts really a huge investment and he must have known how to go go about it in a manner that he won't have to loose, come to to think of it, if someone can put in that much, there are two things involved, he has more, secondly, something outstanding must have made him do so, this speaks a lot about peculium
Is this kind of huge investments are surprising for you if the ICO is of very high quality? I dont think so. But I agree with you. This should have done behind the closed doors for better positioning of him/herself. btw, is this real or this is just for argument sake?
Or maybe he is just stupid who gambles with his money. Nobody besides him knows, and the point is that it doesn't really matter. Even if someone invested 100 BTC, that wouldn't have any impact on of and how much I would invest. There have been countless of projects with huge hype ans big whales in thay failed miserably, and just as many projects with the exact opposite story. The decision to invest or not should not be based on how many people have or have not invested already.
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
I do agree with you,is his personal business, who knows, maybe he's not just coming in as the usual investor, i believe the deal must be done behind close doors because that'ts really a huge investment and he must have known how to go go about it in a manner that he won't have to loose, come to to think of it, if someone can put in that much, there are two things involved, he has more, secondly, something outstanding must have made him do so, this speaks a lot about peculium
Is this kind of huge investments are surprising for you if the ICO is of very high quality? I dont think so. But I agree with you. This should have done behind the closed doors for better positioning of him/herself. btw, is this real or this is just for argument sake?
If I had that kind of money, I would go through private sale indeed and ask for a discount. It is kind of hard to believe for me that someone invested 46 bitcoins...
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
I do agree with you,is his personal business, who knows, maybe he's not just coming in as the usual investor, i believe the deal must be done behind close doors because that'ts really a huge investment and he must have known how to go go about it in a manner that he won't have to loose, come to to think of it, if someone can put in that much, there are two things involved, he has more, secondly, something outstanding must have made him do so, this speaks a lot about peculium
Is this kind of huge investments are surprising for you if the ICO is of very high quality? I dont think so. But I agree with you. This should have done behind the closed doors for better positioning of him/herself. btw, is this real or this is just for argument sake?
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
I do agree with you,is his personal business, who knows, maybe he's not just coming in as the usual investor, i believe the deal must be done behind close doors because that'ts really a huge investment and he must have known how to go go about it in a manner that he won't have to loose, come to to think of it, if someone can put in that much, there are two things involved, he has more, secondly, something outstanding must have made him do so, this speaks a lot about peculium
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
Just had to say before I answer - that it doesn't matter what he paid for those coins, we can only speculate at the CURRENT value and that is about £1000 per coin (or $1300) so that's 46 x 1000 which is minimum 46,000 he is playing with! But that being said - he chose it like you said.
So, yeah if it pays off he deserves it but alternately if he loses 100% of his investment he also deserves that! It's like gambling when you go in that hard! I don't think it's good for the long term crypto investment game, it distorts the market too heavily.
You're right though, if it does pay off and he pulls out say 2 BTC worth every month after 5 years of rises, he will be living off bare profit and it will be well deserved! Let's all keep our fingers crossed for mr 46 BTC gambler, it's beyond brave but hell I really want him to turn from a whale into a king penguin lol and be even more super rich than his current investment style suggest he is.
One persons risk is another persons petty change, 46 btc out of 46 is a lot but 46 out of 10000 btc is not, don't forget this entire industry is filled with some VERY rich people, there are people who paid 30 btc for a pizza years ago, that would be insanely wealthy today had they had a crystal ball. I imagine that the 46 btc investor is probably a company or someone that has some form of sense on how to properly invest you don't throw around that kind of cash without researching what your doing with it.
You don't get to have that much bitcoin and then suddenly decide to randomly spend it on something you don't think will earn you a big return
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
Just had to say before I answer - that it doesn't matter what he paid for those coins, we can only speculate at the CURRENT value and that is about £1000 per coin (or $1300) so that's 46 x 1000 which is minimum 46,000 he is playing with! But that being said - he chose it like you said.
So, yeah if it pays off he deserves it but alternately if he loses 100% of his investment he also deserves that! It's like gambling when you go in that hard! I don't think it's good for the long term crypto investment game, it distorts the market too heavily.
You're right though, if it does pay off and he pulls out say 2 BTC worth every month after 5 years of rises, he will be living off bare profit and it will be well deserved! Let's all keep our fingers crossed for mr 46 BTC gambler, it's beyond brave but hell I really want him to turn from a whale into a king penguin lol and be even more super rich than his current investment style suggest he is.
Guys, if he invested 46 bitcoins, it is because he WANTED TO DO IT, nothing more than that.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
And what if he was holding 1000 bitcoins at that time? What if he bought them all at $100 and he didn't sold them out?
Came on, just be realistic and think a little before making false accussations to him.
He is going to be a huge whale in here, and if he makes profits, he deserve it, after all, he invested a huge amount of money.
Of course, 46 BTC is very much. A huge leap of faith for Peculium. It speaks more and more, how good the project is. Maybe he / she has just heard about it and could not benefit from the 50% bonus. But who can invest 46 BTC, is probably not dependent on bonus :-)
Yes but imagine the amount of bonus tokens the investor would have received if they had purchased Peculium tokens at an earlier stage of the ICO!
I understand if you arrive into an ICO too late and you still want to invest, but surely someone that has 46 BTC to invest would have done their research on the project and picked an optimal time to invest.
Somebody willing to throw that much value towards any one source either has more money than sense, or inherited the lot and will lose it alll through bad decision making.
Anybody who is a wise investor will always tell you to split the risk by diversifying the portfolio not by lumping all your eggs into the one basket. Well I think it's a mug punt personally, even if there is only 1% chance to lose your money, that means out of 100 people who did it that 1 is definitely losing all their money.
If that was me, I would definitely be saying with my 46 BTC I will not needlessly take the risk for pure financial gain when I am already 46 BTCs of disposable investment capital rich!
Doesn't matter how they swing this one it's just gonna smack them in the face with the reality of it! A better idea would be to use a third of that money to invest into the actual company that produces the Peculium project and get cash divs off of their success, that way you can have your cake and eat it - and it the thing sinks, you at least got your cash dis whilst the project was on.Haha you know what this is too funny, but I will bow out on the 46 BTC madness now. Do what you like with your wwealth but be aware that investments can die as well as grow, so it pays in the long term to be sensible and not duck and dive like a penniless gambler when you are rich already
Peculium is a good investment imo but there is just no need to put your entire life on it at this stage when the returns assumedly will be good enough that you DONT have to risk that, when its meant to be a saving account. Savings accounts are minima risk....
I think this Peculium has bright future. Only one backlog. Too much supply. Only 30% is up for sale including pre ico, ico, Private sale. Ans that's around 6B in total. Honestly, That's a lot. You guys would've created a hype if the token supply was less in my opinion. Also, I couldn't find what's gonna happen to the unsold tokens?
Yes the 20 bil token supply is a bit too much in my opinion aswell. However, things are looking good now, the amount raised has jumped from 6 mil about a week ago to almost 12 mil now. I also like the idea that only 30% of the tokens will be sold in ICO. That will help reduce the influence of dumpers on the token price.
20 billion too much really? The days of thinking billions are too many is over, cardana and ripple have proved that high number of coins isn't a deterent it just means a wider spread and something like PCL that is a savings account has broad appeal so i kind of get why they need a large quantity available, it all comes down to how they are utilized.
There are exceptions of course, like the coins you mentioned, but in the general case supply does affect the coin growth potential. I'm not saying PCL will have hard time growing up, but I think that a smaller supply of tokens would allow an even bigger growth.
He may have trouble converting all that back into cash! Might be a better idea to keep most of his BTCs as they ARE worth something as cash at the moment! Wow this guy sounds like a crazy investor thats more likely gonna lose him money throwing 100% of his wealth at something with absolutely zero regards to the safety of that!
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
Yeah I must admit it is quite a strange time to make the investment, does anyone what terms were agreed about the bonus on that investment?
The bonus for investing with Peculium is now down to 10%, why didn't the investor buy Peculium earlier when it was at 50% during private sale or 35% during pre-ICO?
Because maybe they didn't knew that Peculium would be a good potential ICO. Nobody knows at first glance if it is a good ICO or not. In time investors will know it and now they saw that this had potential. Some of them did invest early. They did a good job, because they got a higher bonus, and the ICO turned good.
Of course, 46 BTC is very much. A huge leap of faith for Peculium. It speaks more and more, how good the project is. Maybe he / she has just heard about it and could not benefit from the 50% bonus. But who can invest 46 BTC, is probably not dependent on bonus :-)
Yes but imagine the amount of bonus tokens the investor would have received if they had purchased Peculium tokens at an earlier stage of the ICO!
I understand if you arrive into an ICO too late and you still want to invest, but surely someone that has 46 BTC to invest would have done their research on the project and picked an optimal time to invest.
Maybe he doesn't mind too much about the bonus and more about the coin having more acceptation, meaning the risk is lower. It's easier to take a bigger risk with 1 eth tahn with 46 BTC. Maybe he did a minor inversion at the former stage too that went unnoticed
Peculium tweeted a video, but the link is not working. Hopefully they will correct it. The second link is about the conference today in the Hague
''Watch our Data Architect, Ayoub FAKIR's BlockchainTalk yesterday in Amsterdam!
You can catch Ayoub's BlockchainTalk today in Hagueas well:
https://blockchaintalks.io/our-content/upcoming-events/bctvol3-denhaag''
''Watch our Data Architect, Ayoub FAKIR's BlockchainTalk yesterday in Amsterdam!
You can catch Ayoub's BlockchainTalk today in Hagueas well:
https://blockchaintalks.io/our-content/upcoming-events/bctvol3-denhaag''
Of course, 46 BTC is very much. A huge leap of faith for Peculium. It speaks more and more, how good the project is. Maybe he / she has just heard about it and could not benefit from the 50% bonus. But who can invest 46 BTC, is probably not dependent on bonus :-)
Yes but imagine the amount of bonus tokens the investor would have received if they had purchased Peculium tokens at an earlier stage of the ICO!
I understand if you arrive into an ICO too late and you still want to invest, but surely someone that has 46 BTC to invest would have done their research on the project and picked an optimal time to invest.
Of course, 46 BTC is very much. A huge leap of faith for Peculium. It speaks more and more, how good the project is. Maybe he / she has just heard about it and could not benefit from the 50% bonus. But who can invest 46 BTC, is probably not dependent on bonus :-)
Yes I am not disputing how much speculative profit he can make - I am just saying if it is £46 million who the hell can afford to convert it back into dollar or pound cash for him?!? NOBODY that is who so in effect he is artificially neutering his entire wealth.
Like I said the smart move is to invest in stages over a longer period and that also minimises the risk and keeps his cash capital available should the worst happen - any investment broker with sense will warn you in ANY scenario your investments can go down as well as up!!
He is better off, if he has that much money, putting 1/6 of that into leveraged CFDs based on Eth prices, 1/6 into BTC CFDs, 1/6 into actual Peculium etc etc with different related stocks and coins. At least then if there is a massive crisis he only loses max 1/6 of that amount. I mean people have to be aware that there is always a small risk that you lose your entire investment - if it was 100% water tight then everybody inclluding corps and govts would be throwing ALL their own value and cash in and telling you to do the same.
I am just appealing for some common sense, so that people invest wisely and not like a child witih a big red button 46 bitcoins is excessive risk all in one place. And like the last poster said the time to go boots in would have been when there was a 50% bonus, meaning he would have gotten the same value for investing 1/2 (which is still a crazy ratio for a reasonable seasoned investor)!
In a word : Never go full retard when it's money! Haha.
Like I said the smart move is to invest in stages over a longer period and that also minimises the risk and keeps his cash capital available should the worst happen - any investment broker with sense will warn you in ANY scenario your investments can go down as well as up!!
He is better off, if he has that much money, putting 1/6 of that into leveraged CFDs based on Eth prices, 1/6 into BTC CFDs, 1/6 into actual Peculium etc etc with different related stocks and coins. At least then if there is a massive crisis he only loses max 1/6 of that amount. I mean people have to be aware that there is always a small risk that you lose your entire investment - if it was 100% water tight then everybody inclluding corps and govts would be throwing ALL their own value and cash in and telling you to do the same.
I am just appealing for some common sense, so that people invest wisely and not like a child witih a big red button
46 bitcoins is excessive risk all in one place. And like the last poster said the time to go boots in would have been when there was a 50% bonus, meaning he would have gotten the same value for investing 1/2 (which is still a crazy ratio for a reasonable seasoned investor)!In a word : Never go full retard when it's money! Haha.
He may have trouble converting all that back into cash! Might be a better idea to keep most of his BTCs as they ARE worth something as cash at the moment! Wow this guy sounds like a crazy investor thats more likely gonna lose him money throwing 100% of his wealth at something with absolutely zero regards to the safety of that!
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
I can understand your point of view, but an amount of coins does not give much information, if we could know what percentage of the investor's portfolio that 46 btc represents, then we could say how risky that move actually is. Perhaps this investor has inside-information that convinced the person to invest such an amount.
Well, you don't know how much this guy has in total. Maybe 46 BTCs are as much for him as something like 5 ETH is to us? And if he really believes in the project and is convinced that token price can at least double (that's pretty conservative), just imagine how much profit he makes.
He may have trouble converting all that back into cash! Might be a better idea to keep most of his BTCs as they ARE worth something as cash at the moment! Wow this guy sounds like a crazy investor thats more likely gonna lose him money throwing 100% of his wealth at something with absolutely zero regards to the safety of that!
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
Yeah I must admit it is quite a strange time to make the investment, does anyone what terms were agreed about the bonus on that investment?
The bonus for investing with Peculium is now down to 10%, why didn't the investor buy Peculium earlier when it was at 50% during private sale or 35% during pre-ICO?
He may have trouble converting all that back into cash! Might be a better idea to keep most of his BTCs as they ARE worth something as cash at the moment! Wow this guy sounds like a crazy investor thats more likely gonna lose him money throwing 100% of his wealth at something with absolutely zero regards to the safety of that!
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
I know it sounds weird but investing like this is actually harmful to the long term prospects of project. He would be better off tiering - that is splitting down that money and doing an invest run every 6 months or something!! Wow what a huge amount of uneccessary risk to take on :/
I can understand your point of view, but an amount of coins does not give much information, if we could know what percentage of the investor's portfolio that 46 btc represents, then we could say how risky that move actually is. Perhaps this investor has inside-information that convinced the person to invest such an amount.
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