Topic: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - page 13. (Read 26783 times)

I log into myetherwallet and saw a transaction from my account to pillar team account. Now I have 0 pillars. What is going on? Thanks.

Dude, you are so wrong! The change you are talking about is Marketcap, not Marktet Volume.
Do you understand what the term "maketcap" means? Roughly: value of 1 coin * total number of coins.
Because PLR previously not listed on any exchange, and at some point was only listed on EtherDelta and HitBTC, only with a very low volume, any trade would have huge influence of the marketcap.
If there are 0 trades on either exchange, and assume one person sells 1 PLR token for 2x or 3x its previous value, you would get that spike you talk about. For any token which is only at very low volume on the market, you get this behavior. Look at coinmarketcap, there has not been a major release op PLR into the markets


So, you are saying you didn't do your homework, and despite of that, still jumped, based on a comment of someone else, and are now disappointed with the results of your jump?
That is completely your fault man.
But have been looking into Pillar from early days, and for me there are now surprises and no disappointments.
They have always been very clear and transparent on their actions and plans.
Sure they learn along the way and may adjust accordingly. And sure they may have made some small mistakes along the way. But in general, they did a great job, stayed true to their vision and have been perfectly clear on every step.


This is not true. And you are missing maybe the most important point stressed by Pillar and David almost every day: Pillar will be designing the proposed Wallet after the ICO. So, this ICO, or Pillar in general is not for the traders, not for the short term people. Pillar is for the long run, for the investors / keepers.
Do not mix investors with traders, because they could be quite the opposite.
Everyone which was playing the short-term spike to make a quick profit from a token flip was bound to be disappointed. Ans Pillar and David stressed this point many time.
Starting price (or early price) of the Pillar token is irrelevant, because the road ahead is not the short term road you may have been looking for.
You jumped on the wrong train man, you jumped the investors train, not the traders train.

Yes you do! Because of all of the above, you are spreading BS! You are not an objectivist, you mistake your own view of the world to be a fact instead of being subjective. Your conclusions are not a fact, they are the result of the way you see things.
Your are downplaying a great project, because you did not do your homework, and because you don't get your facts straight.
You were looking for a short term payout, but choose a long term project. That is reality, not BS.

They have been perfectly clear on this change, and for me personally, I don't have any problem with them opening up to US, I was more bothered with the fact they did not do this much more early (although I completely understand the reasons). You pick one event, and give your negative subjective spin on it, and this way you maybe can even pick more events and occurrences to give a negative remark about (and an "I told you so" answer), but they simply made a decision which might not be your decision, and all the dark reasons behind it which are in your head, could simply be not true and non-existing.


I think they are totally right to put a stop to yours BS! "Objectivism != emotions or your feelings" is something that applies a lot more to you than to Pillar. Live by your ow rules!

It's not even in big exchanges yet, maybe it will rise more once we see it in big exchanges.
Pillar has been a good project to all of us who invested on it.

nice project, the participants had very well earned. I follow the exchange. continues its rapid rise.

Pillar (PLR) : $0.120857

at these prices the investment is made?

hold and trust , i think Pillar  is good project

Oh, really? Alternative facts, which are they AG2030? So you didn't released 60m (12%) in to the market when before it was 500m CS (see also coinmarketcap), which caused the price to even further drop to 14/50?! And no, I'm not the only one. Maybe watch the Reddit threads as well and have a tab opened on ED and watched the plr price to drop with huge low ball offering sell walls... The numbers speak for themselves.

I've put significant money in to this ico, only based on Clif High's report on the last 10 minutes before your ico closed and had only time to do my DD/FA for 20 minutes, which looked promising and was cheering for you, also in this thread. Then when ico was finished, you've did a live stream which I anticipated and ceo wasn't happy about the low eth contribution and avg/person and other people in chat were shocked which spreaded all on Reddit, which I was silent on. Then the interview came with jsnip4 about the vision of implementation regarding government cooperation and rfid implants and this was reason for me to bail out during the pump. Not to even mention he didn't care about the price of PLR and opened up the market for US citizens while doing the live stream, because apparantly, one was not happy about the raised money...

The fact that you try to imply that I spread FUD or BS is just ironic, where the intelligent thing for you to do is to point out where I'm wrong, when the FACTS are there on VIDEO what I claim is TRUE, unlike you don't like any criticism, which says a lot more about you than me, and if that was so that you are so certain and correct, then you had something to show for, as the purpose of one's being is learning, so if you don't have to learn anymore, teach me something I can learn from you and I'd be greatful and appreciate it for my own betterment. You've better never replied at all, imho, for your own sake.

I don't spread bullshit around, I'm an objectivist and look from both sides to come up with my own conclusions. Something to learn from, maybe.
Keep in mind who have funded you and maybe be greatful, instead of bitter. Investment != charity.

I'm totally shocked to hear a response from an official to imply to CENSOR anything that might hurt them, when those are LEGITIMATE questions and observations.
Objectivism != emotions or your feelings.

No worries AG2030, this was my last post anyway. It's understandable that one is not like to hear criticism that might put one in a bad daylight. We've seen this countless times in human history again what this can lead to like what happened in the 1930's. That's what PC is all about, right? Thought you guys were libertarians and had principles. I know enough.

We were about to comment on crypt0dude post, but we have "no-statements-on-pure-BS" policy, so we won't do that. Last warning for you, dude - one attempt more and you'll have to look for an alternative place to spread your alternative facts...


For everyone interested in hacking issue - here's a one of the previous newsletters with wider explanation.
http://mailchi.mp/pillarproject.io/test-1-security-slovakia-379059

Meanwhile, we are getting focused on finding office space in London, receiving first UX/UI Design contest entries and working on architecture of our wallet. Watch more about it in our fresh video below.
 What's next in Project after #PillarUnconference

Where do you get this from? And these numbers? I know they are looking into misplaced transactions, but I never read 60M. I thought it was about some people accidentally transferring ETH to some test address.

The interview the jr FUDder is referring to happened over a month ago and yet I remember nothing but good things from it. The same host (jsnip4) broadcast last night and did a segment about Pillar as it's now 10% over the ICO price at that point and even higher as I post this. Go to 10:30 for this commentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPhBohEpNc

They're working on their web wallet among other things and this thread is not like other ANN threads where the team answers peoples' questions/concerns or helicopters over it. You need to follow them on Twitter and get their email scoop. The weak hands have been sifted out as evidenced by the recent move on the price. One thing is correct and that was people exiting the token too early when it was down and trying to flock elsewhere when they should've stayed put or accumulated more. Even Clif High is saying this stuff is going big by Feb '18. I maintain a modest position and am not selling anything here. This is just classic breaking-back-above-even, cut and running just to lock in a gain for peanuts when the real prize in on the way.

Out of all the tokens out there with any upwardly mobile potential, this one is near the cheapest available at this point.

That's not true. If you read my previous post, I broke it down to what you're saying. That was the case/true when it sold 45/50 when Eth was just a tiny bit below the same fiat ratio (read my post), however, PLR sold way below fiat/ETH over time and many people panic sold and made losses to jump on other coins. So no, the wisest thing to do was to buy ETH low, hold and buy 17/50 PLR, understand? I was lucky, have the will power to stay up all night and know how to trade and made a profit, thank god. I don't expect a much larger pump, in fact, I think the price is gonna drop, especially when they inflated another 60m (12%) in to the market out coulance due to "hacking" without any proof. I've researched and followed over 150 hours in this project and team and trackrecord of ceo - how do you know if it was a hack. Saying is easy, but I want to see proof. It can also be injected from team to sell soon.

Like I said, watch interview with ceo on youtube with jsnip4 and you understand. Many people are so pissed off having participated. Government control over their wallet to immediately tax, rfid implants in wrists, etc. NO THANKS! This is the opposite of decentralization and freedom (to choose). Also, no final product for years. I was so bullish on this project until this interview slip up and project having donated huge amounts of plr to promoters who didn't disclaim they had a stake and pumped it and they dumped it on their followers for free money. No way to do honest businesses or anything to do with it anymore.

MEW works great right? You are one click away from doing whatever you want with those tokens. Why do you need another wallet?

Your words, not mine

If you bought PLR during (pre)sale, you did ride it, because ETH was low on sale and high now

Why? What exactly? I don't follow

my do we have a wallet now? i still token in myetherwallet. is it still okay to keep there?

First great day since disastrous (pre-sale) ico. Finally, I waited entire night for the pump and sold my entire position. Have even closed with a tiny $50 profit vs months of holding and couldn't trade/ride the wave of eth. Anyways, good luck. Hoping is futile. After listening to ceo interview with jsnip4, the vision of ceo is not something that was implied before and during ico at all. Watch entire video and think critically. Also, I've worked with such people in the past and haven't had a great experience, because shit doesn't get done and businesses went bankrupt. Manifestation of dreams/plans requires discipline, skills and intelligence and when you don't want to go this route (pure freedom without any discipline, nor care about investors), the last thing that is left is hope for the weak. Anywho, good luck, as long as you keep your libertarian principles and don't want to enforce everybody to be chipped once you might have a successful project.

Up over 70% today and up to #65 on market cap. Not saying much but it's been the best performer in crypto in the last few days, by far.

Now Pillar closer to price of ICO ( in dollars).. I hope, price will increase 2x or 3x . What about news? Why price increase now?

look like Pillar will da to moon ,stay here what will happen!

Interesting, now it's up 87% and moved up to #72 on market cap.

Maybe this ->  https://twitter.com/PillarWallet/status/896072129673805824 ?

Price is up 53% today which isn't saying much considering the last month's performance. Sitting at #81 on the market cap.

hello pillar dev i want to ask, any news about new biggest exchnge? ex. bittrex/livecoin?