Topic: 💎[ANN][PING] CryptoPing: Altcoin Intelligence Bot | >50k users | (ICO closed) - page 22. (Read 59975 times)

Bitcoin cleared finally and I even have my first referral. I'm in! AOK on the burner, I may just get a prepaid $5.00 card to sign up to the web app. Nice call, and I don't have to even remove my tinfoil hat.


Dump notifications .. heh. Yes, that's appropriate for coins that stink.

You bring up some good points and we’re happy to talk about that.
 

We’re sorry if we were not clear enough in the materials we have released, so please let us try that again.
 
To us, the questions quoted are sort of one matter altogether, and that is the matter of price vs value. You mention fiat, and indeed we cannot escape it for now, but we seriously tend to think that one bitcoin is just one bitcoin, since you trade most alts with it, and so we base the price on it. Having said that, we consider adjusting the sub fee amount should BTC price change drastically over a short period of time.
 
But then, how can you determine the actual value of the bot to you? Programming a bot might be not hard for you personally, but for somebody else it very well might be, especially with crypto ecosystem gaining more and more public attention. Next, the value that you perceive the bot provides to you (or doesn’t) may change over time with the features we release or with the markets you trade. The project was in a closed beta for some time with a group of about 200 initial testers of various levels of trading experience, and we determined that 0.01 BTC/mo is quite acceptable if you find that signals help you with your profits, especially given that we intend to continue the development.

Regarding the discount, we can’t give you any numbers, because we cannot determine the future, but we can try to design it. We presume that after we add the token to exchanges, we will help the price to keep rising by burning tokens during certain period of time, while developing the bot and introducing new features and even products (social trading platform + apps), thus limiting supply and increasing demand for tokens at the same time, increasing their price in BTC compared to the original ICO price, while maintaining same subscription fee in BTC.
 
So it’s not about the discount compared to some token price in the future, but about increasing token rate over time. We want our investors to gain some nice profits from selling tokens later, but we also want to them have an incentive for holding tokens for some time as well. We don’t have any secret token stash to control the market and we don’t want to, so we are going to stimulate holding, increase token rate according to our plans and keep working.
 

We have already realised that we’re lacking in that department and hope to fix this soon. Would be great to hear your feedback when we release our first set of guides, maybe they will improve your experience with the bot too.
 

Thank you. We’re also considering adding some kind of API to the bot and upcoming services so you might be able to actually build something of your own based on it in the future, but no fixed dates or feature scope yet.

I just contribute a little bit waves against ICO project at PINK & hopefully it will be successful this mission soon
Here is my referral link: https://cryptoping.tech/ico?i=7880

You can take also bounty program to grow your impression through socail media campaign.

So no identity of your 'team'

no escrow

no thanks ...

Somewhat troublesome. If 1BTC = example 400USD today it could be 2k USD tomorrow; done this way that means if it were priced 1BTC that I'd be paying 400/per month one month 700/next month 2k/next month (exaggeration) so if the 'flat price' doesn't adjust based on real world values then it's technically not pricing itself accurately; we could be overpaying or underpaying.

I've read the ICO page in-depth, it's my understanding that is lacking.

 True, it does bring attention to things I haven't noticed; due to not being able to observe all markets at the same time. But is that worth a price that could be $24 today , $50 - $150 tomorrow? It's not hard to program a bot that does this; your bot saves the work of someone coding it themselves; and that's a great thing. But.... how accurately is the bot priced to reflect the actual value it is offering?

As a side note, I have already disabled exchanges I'm not using; disabling the exchanges doesn't work. I use Poloniex AND Bittrex; and those are the only two exchanges I have up there. That workaround does not work well enough to be considered a true workaround.

The problem with that is that I pay ~$100 yearly for a service that already sends me alerts on the specific coins I want at the price I want. Coinigy. I tried Cryptoping for that and realized if I was manually setting it; that I was getting the same alerts I get from Coinigy. What set this bot apart was that it had a bot that was already scanning the market so that I didn't have to manually set those indicators.



I agree. But the bot isn't clear on this/doesn't differentiate as far as I understand it. It just says Signals: 2/7d, or 1/7d, there is no explanation on what that actually means if that is how it does this, and there's no guide to explain how to interpret those signals either. At best it's good for observation and monitoring, but my problem with this is, it is not hard to monitor a market based on volume using a bot, bots are all over the place monitoring and triggering execution/buy and sells based on that type of data. What is hard, and what to me would differentiate this project (other than the fact that it's one of the only ones marketing itself and trying to get people to purchase it) would be it's ability to actually observe, monitor, and clarify what you've just said here; because that's not clear. Other than just telling me when X has occurred overtime.

I'm thinking long-term in the future. I realize I don't have to pay anything yet, but I'm asking these questions here because I am on the border. I know I don't have to pay anything, and am aware there is a free-tier, but I'm questioning it's (fluctuating) value to help determine my own decisions.

I was interested in the ICO, but had some concerns before buying in. Since there is a free-tier it might be better to wait and see how this project grows. Either way I'm interested and watching closely for improvements.


This is what I like about CryptoPing because this is my mission as well. I see it as a tool that could possibly help me help others in the future without developing my own platform; but at the same time. I have concerns that seem to be remedied by just sitting back and watching the project grow. It has potential.

Heh, just use burners! On a serious note, we're working on Slack bot first. Email signal delivery is something we weren't asked about yet, but that's an interesting suggestion. Thank you for participating! Bitcoin transactions are slow these days if you don't pay some ridiculous fees.

We heard that MEME will rebrand to PEPE, so if we add dump notifications, coin rebranding could be the way...

Telegram sucks. They want my phone number for signup and I don't have one. If this product is going to succeed it needs an email option.

BTW I invested in the ICO (or at least I have if my BTC confirms within 30 days )

Idea: New coin called Pong. It alerts us to coins that totally stink ...

No, it isn't. Price monitoring is optional and it works as simple alert on threshold. It's not the main feature of bot. Abrupt changes detection is what this bot does in the first place.

It just notifies when price passes a threshold the user sets, how will that detect abrupt changes?

Hello folks. Our sale went live just when we got the user #8000 registered!
 
First, to all the translators we didn't contact or reply to yet: we apologise for not contacting you sooner and will return to you as soon as we can. We were (and are) a bit overwhelmed with the feedback from users and are focusing on user support first, answering loads of emails and explaining things. We definitely underestimated the interest to the project, but that's a good thing, isn't it.
 
Now to address the concerns raised in the thread earlier, in no particular order.
 

Subscription is fixed in BTC value for the time being while coin rates are tied to it. We prefer to think that 1 BTC = 1 BTC.
 

Depends entirely on the post-ICO market, but we're going to help with that by limiting the supply over time, please see our ICO page, Post-sale supply maintenance section for details on how we plan to burn tokens.
 

Or rather it brings your attention to something you might never notice because you cannot observe all the markets all the time. Perhaps disabling entire exchanges from your profile could help with not receiving signals about certain coins. We’re not saying the interface to the bot is perfect, but there’s a workaround.
 

Yep, that’s maybe the top feature requested by the users and it’s on our list. But while it’s missing you can still create your own price threshold alerts in the bot for specific coins, so if you want a warning, you will get one if you set it up.
 

We respectfully disagree. As we previously posted here on this topic, the bot reacts to a number of factors, and it might send you signals about a coin for days before any pump actually happens. For instance, one-time price spike from a large buy, that is inconsistent with the trend, is not a pump, but can trigger a signal. Even then, considering current state of markets, pumps are happening all over the place, and things are moving too fast, and we understand where that “post-pump” signal impression can come from.
 

You don’t even have to pay anything yet, because the bot stays free until ICO finishes and then some time after, and also because it will have a free tier that might suit you just fine. If Coinigy works for you better, then great! We love it and use it too. However, as we see it, if the bot doesn’t help you, you’re not required to pay for it and use it, but if the bot signals help you with your trades, then subscription fee is small enough to keep the service easily available to you.
 

To quote our “ICO is live” email, we prefer to remain anonymous, for instance, because we would like our project to speak for itself; because we think that team visibility guarantees nothing; because we do not like authorities, regulations, and taxes. Being able to put faces and names to the project doesn’t automatically save your assets if the team decides to run with your money anyway. Don’t invest what you cannot afford to lose.
 

One of our goals with this project is to bring more people to crypto and help them learn how to trade, with or without the bot. We keep getting asked about it a lot and we are working on basic guides on how we would recommend to use the bot, and intend to release them soon.
 
Next stop in that quest is the social trading platform for altcoins, which is on our roadmap. In short, you’ll be able to follow other traders and receive filtered signals, and with that get more insight into what works for you and what doesn’t.
 
Thank you for voicing your concerns and the discussion!

After I sign up and install telegram. Yours bot does't work for me. When I copy paste the token and enter. The bot direct me to sign up again.

1. The bot tells you ONLY when the pump is happening at that moment, it doesn't tell you when a dump is happening and doesn't send any signals right before it.
2. It gives you information on every single coin, you have to manually disable all coins one at a time, that's a lot of crap coins you don't want to hear about to have to disable.
3. At 0.01BTC/month  right now 0.01BTC is $24 or so dollars, as BTC increases that could mean that 0.01BTC could come to cost $100 or even $150 USD...does this subscription adjust itself to BTC price changes or is that flat, no matter what happens?
4. How much of a discount am I actually receiving if I purchase tokens during the presale and not afterwards?

I keep this bot on; but half the time it's only confirming what I already know. Once the bot tells me there has been a pump etc. in the market then I know I'm already too late. I have to already be IN that coin to actually profit on it. This is why I don't think the bot is actually useful to me right now. For it to be useful it needs to tell me BEFORE, and there are plenty of indicators and signals that it can be utilizing to do just that.

I like the bot mainly for being able to confirm price action, and to bring attention to some things; but these signals often come too late; It also doesn't tell you about dumps, only the pumps. I like that the bot is cheap. And that the tokens will be available to trade. I like the roadmap. I'm torn with this one. I want to purchase for discounted tokens just to confirm my existing knowledge, but not sure if I want to pay X amount of money per month just to be told a pump has happened in coins I'm already watching and getting alerts for via coinigy.

Well so far after being initially very excited I went out and followed a buy volume signal on STEEM at poloniex and promptly lost $100 today. I mean yeah it went up 3 percent or so but then went down much more and hit my stop yet here is the thing. Their website reports it as a gain of more than 3%
see here
https://cryptoping.tech/backend/notifications/current
 despite issuing no sell or take profit info. You can't have it both ways and the statements that it makes 10% or some say 13% a day,where is the proof?
Also the creators being anonymous and by the website I can tell they are not native English speakers gives me pause. What is to stop them from running with all the ICO bitcoins and shutting down the bot? Until someone can explain to me exactly specifically how to profit from the bot I am going to hold of investing and will continue to test it. I do like getting signals about large volumes of BUYS on a particular coin but as they say you have to use your own systems judgement etc so these are not specific buy signals really just info that may or may not make you any money.

hello CryptoPing dev i sent you a PM about the translated 1st and 2nd post in thread. thank you and good luck with the project

Just throwing my ref out there : https://cryptoping.tech/?i=5165

Good looking project! Hoping I can get in in time for the ico.. Although not flawless, it has been very productive thus far..

Bot already tested and it was really good. I got a few profit by using it. By the why is there no bounty for social media campaign? This needs presence.

I was expecting a alarm ping recently when GNT took a massive dump. Does this do -% sell volumes?

Newbie launched ICO... attract any "Investors"? I really doubt it.

Please read my PM. Thanks

What does the "signals: 1/7 d" mean?
That we could expect some action in a week or less?


Well trade signaling could be really simple (change in volume \ price) or as complex as anyone can imagine (neural networks \ deep learning...).
I don't personally know if the team is capable or even willing to pursue such developments (the roadmap mentions a neural network tho) but belive me, in this field there is a lot of room to be spending 1000 btc (or even much more) in development.



If this kind of performance could be proven to be persistent, i whould immediately buy 2 lifetime subscriptions, just to be sure, and make a fortune margin trading contrarian to those signals. 

Those are just signals, not "blind follow" instructions, you need to do more research before putting your money into things