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I was thinking about the PoS rate & MN payment ratio for DNET and it's a bit more confusing that I initially thought.

With DASH, as it's PoW, the miner's "cost" is a proper tangible indicator of its "worth".
Also, as it costs money to mine, it compares well to the masternode owner's investment & time.
Hence why both miners & masternode owners get the exact same ratio of reward payment per block

However with PoS, it is not so similar.

Staking coins in a wallet costs less and requires less maintenance than erecting & maintaining a masternode.
But I do see how you do require a significant amount of coins to stake in order to really benefit & get paid similar amount as a single MN.
So... I think it needs to be calculated well as to what the rate of PoS should be in order to maintain a healthy balance of stakers & MN.

e.g. (correct me if i'm wrong)

If I had 10k of DNET and staked at rate of 20% for first year.
After 1 year, I would have 12k DNET roughly.

But if I used the same 10k DNET to setup 1 MN and if there were 1600 MN. (assuming it'll double by PoS switch date)
And assume MN payment is 10 per PoS block as it is right now per PoW block.
Then it's 1440 * 10 / 1600 * 1 * 365 = 3285 DNET. So you end up with 13285 DNET after 1 year.

Now, there are many unknown variables here. (especially the total number of MN)
So yeah, maybe there will be about 2500 MN by then which means both MN & staking will end up being similar.
But if MN count goes up even higher, then it's an issue as reward could end up being lower than staking & vice versa.

Anyways, I think both the PoS rate & MN reward needs to be "smart" & "adaptive". (was that what was proposed before?)
I hope the maths formula is worked out and published once finalized so we all know how it will calculate the rewards. Wink

Would be good if it worked out and was adaptive so MN always get more than POS no matter how many there are else it be pointless keeping MN going.

As soon as it was worked out how many masternodes meant that it was no longer worth making another one and it's better to stake the MN count would halt bearing in mind running costs as well. Not sure if that a bad thing or not but i would guess more MN are better? Plus coins are locked in.
legendary
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jakiman is back!
I was thinking about the PoS rate & MN payment ratio for DNET and it's a bit more confusing that I initially thought.

With DASH, as it's PoW, the miner's "cost" is a proper tangible indicator of its "worth".
Also, as it costs money to mine, it compares well to the masternode owner's investment & time.
Hence why both miners & masternode owners get the exact same ratio of reward payment per block

However with PoS, it is not so similar.

Staking coins in a wallet costs less and requires less maintenance than erecting & maintaining a masternode.
But I do see how you do require a significant amount of coins to stake in order to really benefit & get paid similar amount as a single MN.
So... I think it needs to be calculated well as to what the rate of PoS should be in order to maintain a healthy balance of stakers & MN.

e.g. (correct me if i'm wrong)

If I had 10k of DNET and staked at rate of 20% for first year.
After 1 year, I would have 12k DNET roughly.

But if I used the same 10k DNET to setup 1 MN and if there were 1600 MN. (assuming it'll double by PoS switch date)
And assume MN payment is 10 per PoS block as it is right now per PoW block.
Then it's 1440 * 10 / 1600 * 1 * 365 = 3285 DNET. So you end up with 13285 DNET after 1 year.

Now, there are many unknown variables here. (especially the total number of MN)
So yeah, maybe there will be about 2500 MN by then which means both MN & staking will end up being similar.
But if MN count goes up even higher, then it's an issue as reward could end up being lower than staking & vice versa.

Anyways, I think both the PoS rate & MN reward needs to be "smart" & "adaptive". (was that what was proposed before?)
I hope the maths formula is worked out and published once finalized so we all know how it will calculate the rewards. Wink
legendary
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Is there any reason for the crash of the price?
Its a rather large drop all of a sudden..

Manipulation. Look at them top wallets on bittrex. There few more real high ones now.

It's all Crypsy's fault for selling off their DNET. Oh wait..... Grin

I've been learning and trading Wall Street markets  and after analysing Cryptos it goes the same. Volume and price action is the key to guess on price movement. If price rises or falls  without  increasing volume it almost never going to be sustained. Hope it makes sense.
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it does actually... hence only value is to buy and hold no matter what , hope this makes sense, fast trade you will lose shirt fast as there are people around here for which 100$ is a lot of money
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Does anyone now if there is an Android wallet in the future plans of Dark Net? Lets build it by contributing to developer?

There are plans to have an Android wallet in the near future.
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Does anyone now if there is an Android wallet in the future plans of Dark Net? Lets build it by contributing to developer?
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Is there any reason for the crash of the price?
Its a rather large drop all of a sudden..

Manipulation. Look at them top wallets on bittrex. There few more real high ones now.

It's all Crypsy's fault for selling off their DNET. Oh wait..... Grin

I've been learning and trading Wall Street markets  and after analysing Cryptos it goes the same. Volume and price action is the key to guess on price movement. If price rises or falls  without  increasing volume it almost never going to be sustained. Hope it makes sense.
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HI, could anyone tell me what am I doing wrong. I've set up a Master Node on my laptop and with your help it now works-thank you! Now I tried to set up another one using my public IP address. After completing step one and generating  a new address I am not able to send 10000 DNET to it. The address bar lights up in red and send button does not respond.What could be wrong?
Also wanted to pass this information although it maybe everyone of you are aware about it by now.



ShapeShift Update - April 7 Security Breach
https://www.reddit.com/r/shapeshiftio/comments/4dx6k4/shapeshift_update_april_7_security_breach/

Sunday Night Update - ShapeShift Outage
https://www.reddit.com/r/shapeshiftio/comments/4e93ms/sunday_night_update_shapeshift_outage/


Bitcoin/ cryptocurrency exchange ShapeShift offline following hack, company rebuilding platform
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/04/11/bitcoin-cryptocurrency-exchange-shapeshift-offline-following-hack-company-rebuilding-platform/
 

 

 

legendary
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peanuts money if someone sells @ these levels, kids @play not worth it, setting up MN every week see if I can get to half mill DNET might slow down then wait for POS, I do this allover the place

money involved right now does not justify selling (few exceptions maybe like ETH, I could see how many signed up for expensive farms need to gradually pay the off.. that makes sense)
legendary
Activity: 1638
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jakiman is back!
Is there any reason for the crash of the price?
Its a rather large drop all of a sudden..

Manipulation. Look at them top wallets on bittrex. There few more real high ones now.

It's all Crypsy's fault for selling off their DNET. Oh wait..... Grin
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Is there any reason for the crash of the price?
Its a rather large drop all of a sudden..

Manipulation. Look at them top wallets on bittrex. There few more real high ones now.
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Is there any reason for the crash of the price?
Its a rather large drop all of a sudden..
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1011
jakiman is back!

Prices continue to fall , would be one sat Huh

I better put a good size buy order at 1 sat then. Grin

I'll make it 2 sat to make it even more generous to those who are panicking about the price.

Whoa. That's 100% more than my bid. It's a good offer people. take it! Wink
sr. member
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Prices continue to fall , would be one sat Huh

I better put a good size buy order at 1 sat then. Grin

I'll make it 2 sat to make it even more generous to those who are panicking about the price.
legendary
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jakiman is back!

Prices continue to fall , would be one sat Huh

I better put a good size buy order at 1 sat then. Grin
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Prices continue to fall , would be one sat Huh
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When trying to start darknetd I recieve this mesage:

darknetd: res_query.c:262: __libc_res_nquery: Assertion `(hp != ((void *)0)) && (hp2 != ((void *)0))' failed.

Where my mistake?

Thanks

Solved, I was messing my controller and masternode config files  Undecided
sr. member
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I have PM conversation with dominikherzog the yobit trollbox moderator. He will get in touch with admins when able (was told tomorrow)

So will see how this plays out.
legendary
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update: preparing 17th MN , waiting for 15 confirmations aaaalmost there, wouldnt worry about recent MC, everything is being affected, such price swings will occur multiple times

ok! 17th server has been activated and collecting, as usual have a great weekend till the next one
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When trying to start darknetd I recieve this mesage:

darknetd: res_query.c:262: __libc_res_nquery: Assertion `(hp != ((void *)0)) && (hp2 != ((void *)0))' failed.

Where my mistake?

Thanks
legendary
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jakiman is back!
2 of the largest DNET balances on trex has dropped significantly just then.
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